posted July 03, 2015 07:59 PM              

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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
Honestly,,, you might be happy but the water moon person might be starving for more. I think I'm finally coming to terms with the fact that unless they are a water moon, I will never be fully emotionally fulfilled. Water Suns, water Venus, moon-Pluto, moon-sun, moon-Venus, never really cuts it.

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posted July 03, 2015 08:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
The Cancer/Capricorn axis is a special one too, due to their relation to Moon-Saturn, which is a complementary pairing (even though people favour the Sun-Moon-pairing, Moon-Saturn is still important).

It is even very apparent in terms of there time-rhythm (astronomically) as well.
I remember it totally flashed me when I realized that they mirror each other`s course around the sun exactly, just SAturn taking years, and Moon taking days.

29,458 years (for Saturn) - 29,458 days for Moon.

I find stuff like that fascinating.

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Yes, that is interesting. Thanks!

posted July 05, 2015 10:39 AM            

I have libra moon in the 11th house

Oversimplifications here, but

I don't like aqua moons. I can't stand when someone gives me that blank stare as i'm talking to them.

I have gemini venus, and even with my libra moon trine gem venus natal, I don't like gem moons either. One moment they hate you, the next they wanna be friends, the next they can't stand you. That flip-flopping left and right is not something i'm going to deal with

I don't even notice libra moons like myself even though i've run into a ton of them.

I like aries/sag moons.

Even though i have cancer sun/mars/mercury, cancer moons can be a bit too "lemme cry just for the sake of crying" to me, and that's a bit too much. Though in general i tend to like them.

Virgo/cap seem unemotional.

Pisces is too soft and lost in la-la land for my taste.

I like scorpio, although problems might ensue if they want to control/manipulate/play games.

Leo is a toss up, not too sure.

Taurus, not sure if i've had contact or maybe i just didn't notice.

Moon is just one planet in the entire natal. Imo its part of the compatibility. How important it is is dependent on each individual. I've run women who made contacts with my moon up the wazzoo, and women whose moon made contacts with my planets up the wazzooo. And you know what? I didn't feel a thing in both situations.

posted July 05, 2015 04:51 PM              

Sarah Shahi has been with Steve Howie since August 2004; they are Libra and Gemini moon respectively.

Interestingly, Marika's sister Dagmara is married to actor Patrick Wilson. Both sisters and their husbands are all Cancers; Patrick and Dagmara are also a possible Leo and Aries moon match (unconfirmed though since the moon did change signs on the days that both Patrick and Dagmara were born).

posted July 05, 2015 05:07 PM            

What you've proven us that lots of married couples have compatible moons. But that's disregarding other aspects in their charts. Not every Taurus moon would be compatible with every other Capricorn moon.

Anecdotally and even in evidences, there are plenty ppl without "compatible" moon.

I guess it works for you, but it probably has a lot to do with your chart as well.

Moon is the weakest planet in my chart. My moony needs aren't the same as yours.

You can make it your preferences to be with water moon. Remember Blake Lively in your example doesn't just gave compatible moon with her husband. She has a whole freaking Virgo stellium and her husband has a whole Scorpio stellium.
If you simply pick moon aspects, that's pretty narrow to me.

Just because Ben has a Scorpio moon doesn't mean his moony needs trump everything else. And Scorpio moon above all else just likes a good challenge so other water moons might not keep them on their toes at much. Especially with Ben's Leo sun.

posted July 05, 2015 06:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
If anything, what I already have proven is that majority of celebrity couples who don't wind up divorced within ten years have compatible moons. Not having compatible moons is a pretty good indication of future separation, but of course there are others. I researched celebrity synastry (celebrity natals, too) and made a few different observations (I can also tell you some interesting patterns involving Neptune and sun-Venus).

Leeloo had claimed on another thread that any moon synastry aspect was good, including the square, and that only not having an exact aspect within a few degrees could be seen as a lack. Quite simply, that is nonsense. It is better to have compatible moon signs 20 degrees apart than squared moons! She also said she would like to see my list/sample of celeb couples on which I based my strong opinion. I could easily keep going because of the fundamental truth of what I'm saying, but at 28 celeb couples confirmed I feel like I can say, "I rest my case."

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Aquacheeka, you're out of line here. Stop putting words into my mouth I never said. I can understand you not doing it on purpose, I see you simply don't understand my posts.

Also, I already told you, you are faraway from statistical astrology.

What you have to do first is choose a batch of 10+ years famous couples, known to the public for a harmonious marriage. From the past and present. You choose them by the story first, without checking their astrology.

Start with 50, it's easier. Choose the best love stories/harmonious marriages you know about. Without taking a single peek at their astrology.

After you made this batch and you established they qualify as harmonious couples for over 10y, you begin to study their astrology. You note down their Moon aspects, for all 50 couples, and for all of us to see.

You post the list here, with the aspects or the lack of them, between their Moons.

This is what I did. This is kindergarten statistics and research.

Not what you do, cherry picking examples fitting your ideas. Ideas should be the result of research, not the other way around. What you do is anti-science and anti-astrology.

Making a list of 28 or 1000000 couples with a certain aspect means nothing. Of course there are millions of happy couples in the world with Moon trine Moon, just like there are millions with Moon square Moon. What matters in statistics is what we call the RATE; in this case, the rate between hard and soft aspects is equal. When it comes to the Moons, there are happy long-term couples with any and none of the Moon to Moon aspects.

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posted July 05, 2015 06:28 PM            

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Originally posted by theunknown:
^^^^ but your moon is at home in cancer. What your fourth and where's your moon?

I'm gonna come back to this later. I don't think Leeloo said any moon synastry is good. She said moon-moon aspects might not matter much but aspects to moon: sun, Mars, Venus, etc to moon is good because there's a connection and in the cases of sun-moon and Mars-moon, a yin-yang attraction that's very magnetic.

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Indeed. I also said in long-term couples one can find the following situations in equal measure: soft aspects between Moons, hard aspects between Moons, minor aspect between Moons, no aspects between Moons.

Statistically speaking, this means the Moon to Moon aspect is not relevant for long term happiness and longevity. Others are; the ones you mention, specifically the Sun/Moon aspect.

It's also true not everyone understands mathematics, statistics, astrology or the likes, it's not for everyone. However, impertinence has always been in abundance.

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posted July 05, 2015 06:35 PM              

I mean, if I said moon squares in synastry are good I'd be embarrassed, too, but there is no need to lie.

I'd also remind you that you were the one who produced the first list of celebrity couples on that thread to try and make a point so it's laughably hypocritical that you now ridicule your own tactic just because it's been used to discredit you.

As ever, we await your claims of proof/list of couples that comprise your "statistics." I'm sure it'll materialize eventually :-p

posted July 05, 2015 06:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
Who put words in your mouth, LeeLoo? You said that, right here on page 2: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/000401-2.html.

I mean, if I said moon squares in synastry are good I'd be embarrassed, too, but there is no need to lie.

As ever, we await your claims of proof. I'm sure it'll materialize eventually :-/

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Moon squares in synastry are as good as Moon trines, yes, of course; all you need to do to understand this is to learn how to read a list, know basic mathematics and practice minimal logic.

But the question is: what are you doing here chasing "my theory" in all your posts? Is this a witch hunt? Are you gonna harass me for not liking my theory? you're messing with the wrong witch, gurl!

Have a backbone and do your own research and your own theory without using someone else's name. You don't have to be a leech on someone else's work. What is this? the anti-Leeloo theory?

Last time I checked, harassing someone for their ideas on two separate forums and three separate threads was forbidden on this forum. Present your theory the way you want without mentioning my name, preferably after you acquire minimal astrological research methods.

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posted July 05, 2015 07:08 PM              

I told you I had been doing research for a few years and could produce 30-40 examples, in that thread plain as day you said you would want to see them, I provide them and then you whine that I remind you of your own words? Time to put on your big girl panties. You can be wrong and gracious about it. I doubt you ever will be though .

I disagree with you. I have my reasons. Insulting my intelligence and ridiculing my examples won't detract from the fact that I have made my point, as asked to. It just makes you look like a sore loser.

posted July 05, 2015 07:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
Why don't you just come out and say it: why won't this thread die? That is what your whiny post amounts to. Come on, mentioning your name on a thread because you have made a stupid assertion is harassment now? You must be joking.

I told you I had been doing research for a few years and could produce 30-40 examples, in that thread plain as day you said you would want to see them, I provide them and then you whine that I remind you of your own words? Time to put on your big girl panties. You can be wrong and gracious about it. I doubt you ever will be though .

I disagree with you. I have my reasons. Insulting my intelligence and ridiculing my examples won't detract from the fact that I have made my point, as asked to. It just makes you look like a sore loser.

It's unfortunate that you're so immature on this issue because some of the things you say have value.

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Listen, bully, there's a saying: no fool is a proper fool without being arrogant too.

Take a break until you understand you don't understand. Nobody has asked you to produce 30 or 300 couples with a certain aspect. Everyone knows they exist.

I can't possibly insult something that is missing.

Also, I told you already: you can't talk to me or about me if you are a rude. You have been more than rude and you are aggressively rude.

You've been going on and on about my theory for several days now, on two forums. That is harassment, yes.

The point now is: I, and everyone else, understood you disagree with my concepts. Fine. Now go on with your life. Do your research or your nails or whatever you do without making it about me.

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posted July 06, 2015 05:39 AM            

I am expecting some kind of Venus-Sun-square (or alternatively a Saturn - Venus- opposition or square)

Ben`s pr Venus having separated from her pr ASC, but his own pr ASC still applying to conjunct her pr ASC - which possibly indicates that despite their separation they will stay in contact for a while (didnīt they just leave for a holiday with the kids together? Does anyone else think that is unusual for a freshly separated couple? )

and ah yes there it is

his pr Sun conjunct her pr Juno (16 minutes of orb) on 4 Libra (conjuncted by the transiting NN on 4°26 Libra, 10 minutes of his Sun and applying)

his pr Sun square her pr Venus 0°11 applying (her pr Venus is retro, so it is mutually applying actually and just before its absolute peak.)

Let`s wait one or two years down the line and see how that separation played out by then (was just thinking of how it went between Pink and Corey Hart)

his pr Sun opposite her n Mercury 0°02 s

his pr Sun trine her n Saturn 0°16 a

interesting to note:
her pr Venus/Mars-mp (7 degrees apart) falls onto his natal Venus-ASC-conjunction

her pr Moon (10 Cap) - pr Jupiter (6 Cap) falling around his n DESC (8 Cap) - having been brought to a peak with the last fullmoon I guess.

her pr Venus separating from the conjunction to his natal Venus (3 s).

her pr Venus trine his n Moon 0°19 s

her pr Ceres conjunct his n Sun 0°00

posted July 06, 2015 07:07 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I am having a look at Jennifer`s and Ben`s progressions.

I am expecting some kind of Venus-Sun-square (or alternatively a Saturn - Venus- opposition or square)

Ben`s pr Venus having separated from her pr ASC, but his own pr ASC still applying to conjunct her pr ASC - which possibly indicates that despite their separation they will stay in contact for a while (didnīt they just leave for a holiday with the kids together? Does anyone else think that is unusual for a freshly separated couple? )

and ah yes there it is

his pr Sun conjunct her pr Juno (16 minutes of orb) on 4 Libra (conjuncted by the transiting NN on 4°26 Libra, 10 minutes of his Sun and applying)

his pr Sun square her pr Venus 0°11 applying (her pr Venus is retro, so it is mutually applying actually and just before its absolute peak.)

Let`s wait one or two years down the line and see how that separation played out by then (was just thinking of how it went between Pink and Corey Hart)

his pr Sun opposite her n Mercury 0°02 s

his pr Sun trine her n Saturn 0°16 a

interesting to note:
her pr Venus/Mars-mp (7 degrees apart) falls onto his natal Venus-ASC-conjunction

her pr Moon (10 Cap) - pr Jupiter (6 Cap) falling around his n DESC (8 Cap) - having been brought to a peak with the last fullmoon I guess.

her pr Venus separating from the conjunction to his natal Venus (3 s).

her pr Venus trine his n Moon 0°19 s

her pr Ceres conjunct his n Sun 0°00

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You're right, but when someone keeps calling my name, I usually answer. Ignoring is something I am still learning how to.

So you say the psquare should bring them back together? They have strong Saturn contacts in their synastry, that is for sure. The Moon/Saturn plays out even as we speak.

They seem to have important connective p aspects as well. But you know, this theory (applying getting together, separating, separating)doesn't seem to play out, in the sense that I think it is mostly about cycles. Remember my cousin had the pSun/Venus conjunction, applying during the very painful separation with the hubby.
Bennifers have Venus/Jupiter exactly conj their composite IC (I mean the transit)

Full cycles (shown by these p conjunctions) bring either or.

You are right, based on their synastry and the vibe they give, reconciliation is not impossible.

It is however strange to notice all those progressed aspects are what is generally considered as "happy aspects". So this is like: happy and relieved to realize we are only friends? Jupiter is, in fact, a friendzone planet too, not just a marital god.

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posted July 06, 2015 07:13 AM            

EDIT: he has Jupiter conj DSC in his natal and conj her DSC, look at that!
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posted July 06, 2015 07:24 AM            

Their progressed synastry seems to support Westrans theory of the squares between Venus and Sun in progression as keeping people apart from each other (only generally speaking, of course there are separations happening without that square and others get together with such a square)

They seem to want to do the separation truely amicably though, and with all the Jupiter in play they might maybe even have a chance at that.

posted July 06, 2015 07:32 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Oh I wouldnīt say they WILL reconcile necessarily (I would not rule it totally out either though).

Their progressed synastry seems to support Westrans theory of the squares between Venus and Sun in progression as keeping people apart from each other (only generally speaking, of course there are separations happening without that square and others get together with such a square)

They seem to want to do the separation truely amicably though, and with all the Jupiter in play they might maybe even have a chance at that.

And I think they will of course always be somehow connected to each other, because they have kids,

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You're right, they have Westran's square. Also, he has his pVenus return, so to speak, now separating (what I see as the action after deliberation phase).

probably another classic midlife crisis here as well nothing new under the sun
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