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Topic: What the differences between a pisces vrs. cancer Moon?
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PixieJane Moderator Posts: 6681 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted July 09, 2015 11:45 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: Do you guys think in a relationship you should always expect and allow the pisces moon to be the more sensitive one? It seems if your ultra sensitive they get hurt by you being hurt and they don't have as quick of a bounce back as emotionally as other signs...is this true?
I'd say this is true of the 3 Pisces mooners whom I know very well, but they all have found ways to deal with it. One, my cousin gets somewhere alone and gets lost in his music. Everyone knows not to bother him when he does that, and when I was a kid I was even able to guess what was eating at him just hearing it. This is how he flushes himself and regains his equilibrium. He told me as an adult that he can enter alternate states when he plays and recalls past lives which was very surprising to me, and interesting enough when he met my Pisces moon BFF they both somehow remembered each other from a past life! It was delightfully surreal. And there's my BFF who uses various meditations and also Qigong to "regain her center" and separate herself from all that she's absorbed into herself. When we get together I like to take a few minutes to recall all our good times together in the hopes that I'll help pick her up.
Another used some intensive occult practices to shut himself down psychically but all he could do was mute his psychic abilities--which were considerable (and probably due to a near death experience and also concussion), and also left me pitying him as they were a burden, even if his psychic abilities probably saved my life (though it was painful to him). He's a hermit who lives a rural life now with mostly animal (and plant!) companions as the pain of the world is too much and he can only take the world in small doses, and he was also involved in some criminal things when he was younger, both good and bad, and had his scars from it (he scared me bad the first time I saw him, I thought he was a muscular biker type with wild long hair and eyes that went right through me, and he told me later he'd gone to the lonely beach I was hiding on that day to get some relief from the pain of the world but I was a beacon of pain that he couldn't ignore). He literally found being beaten by evil cops using nightsticks less painful than the psychic pain he could feel around him that he had to either try to help stop or to get away from.
And to top it off he's a Libra sun so even when the energy isn't that bad it can still throw him out of balance which is also jarring. Most wouldn't recognize him as a Libra (at least not now, he described himself as once having been more stereotypically Libran as a child but was beaten for "being gay" by his family for it) and I'm reminded of him in both appearance and demeanor every time I see Hagrid in the Harry Potter movies. So in short all 3 needed to adopt a healthy way to deal with what they "absorb" around them that aren't necessary to most people in order to function, and personally I don't envy them their impressive mystical and outright psychic abilities (of those 3 anyway) as it's not worth the burden they bear.
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Gabby Moderator Posts: 6913 From: Registered: Sep 2012
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posted July 09, 2015 11:57 PM
Very interesting PJ! Thank you for sharing those stories!! The psychic stuff is crazy with these guys and they don't even seem to realize they are picking up on others emotions, what they feel is not their own reality. Your right it's quite a burden to carry, not sure if I'd want to trade them spots either! Having the 12th house moon I totally get the need for isolation to recoup. Even with the similarities to pisces moon, I guess I'm still stronger and should expect to be his strength instead of thinking he can be mine. We both have Pallas/Vesta opposed our moons in our natal charts so these are conjubct each other's moon, plus his Anubis/Pallas/Vesta are conjunct (on my moon) My Klotho/Pallas/Vesta on his moon He is terribly in tune with my emotions, it's not good! If I'm sad he calls me worried an asks what's happened. It's like I need to watch my emotions all the time, even when we are not together just so they don't overload him. IP: Logged |
Iced8Ace Knowflake Posts: 254 From: CA Registered: Aug 2014
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posted July 10, 2015 12:12 AM
My pisces moon is conjunct saturn so I'm not flaky at all if committed. It's very hard to get my attention though. I'm either bored (square from jupiter), need to wander, or need space to recharge. I find it difficult to open up if it seems pointless... like no matter what, we're unable to be on the same page. I shut down when I realize there is nothing I can say. You know when you're shocked by how stupid someone is being, or even disgusted by them sinking so low and you just stare at them and think, like what...? I do that a lot and then detach. Could be my pisces mercury, I don't know.I notice Cancer moons need consistent loyalty and reinsurance, which can be draining to me. Pisces moons ime don't need constant reinsurance but are unsure about where to land their feet. Cancer is excellent with direction, but they can have difficulty with letting go. I think Pisces let go easier, or at least we give others that illusion by wandering off.
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Eirlys Knowflake Posts: 516 From: Atlantic Coast Registered: May 2013
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posted July 10, 2015 12:28 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: Eirlys, I'm also curious about your chart.And your age. Because when I was younger I was much more capable of despising people, but as I've gotten older, my preference for not harboring any kind of hatred just gets stronger and stronger. In that sense, I agree with Aries23 degrees, I can be impersonal. I don't forgive people or overlook their flaws because of who they are, but because of who I am.
That sounds great, Faith.
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: "I know this person betrayed me 100 times....".
But betrayal is not a flaw. ___ * to deliver or expose to an enemy by treachery or disloyalty * to give aid or information to an enemy of; commit treason against... * to inform upon or deliver into the hands of an enemy in violation of a trust or allegiance ___ It's a deliberate, malicious act, and it is personal by its very nature.
It's the ultimate offense. Thankfully, the instances of it in my life have been few and far between. Petty grievances are easy to forgive after time, when so much can be chalked
up to human frailty... esp in hindsight. Harboring resentment over them will literally make you ill... not worth it. Betrayal is different.
And when I *am* able to forgive that (something else that is wholly personal), I think it's more an act of Providence, than something I can credit to myself, alone. And Leo rules the heart-- can't speak for others, but I don't take things like this lightly. ~
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Faith Knowflake Posts: 11833 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 10, 2015 12:51 AM
Such a great thread!@Gabby, you may not be able to conceal your pain from your Pisces moon boyfriend, but it's okay because he'll know you try (to protect him), and love you for it. You also cannot conceal your joy, and you will repay him for the hard times with the good times. When the people I love are happy, I'm happy. Maybe sometimes, even happier than they are, because for me there is so much relief mixed in, that I get a break from worrying about them. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 11833 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 10, 2015 01:00 AM
quote: Originally posted by fireopal09: I meet people just getting out of prison ALL THE TIME.
((edits out late night long story about conversing with a prison warden.)) To clarify the astrological relevance here, in case newbies are reading, it's a 12H/ Pisces thing, to be involved with prisons. I have 12H Saturn which makes me interested in them, too. IP: Logged |
jupitersgirl Knowflake Posts: 417 From: Registered: Oct 2009
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posted July 10, 2015 03:29 AM
Pisces moon is accepting, objective and humanistic. Cancer moon is subjective, over sensitive and, can shut herself/himself down when faced with a "threat". Both very intuitive.IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka Knowflake Posts: 3578 From: Toronto Registered: Mar 2012
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posted July 10, 2015 08:46 AM
PixieJane the story about the Libra sun/Pisces moon man... that is so sad!! Someone said the lives of Pisces moon men are unbearably tragic to witness and I'm starting to think that's true IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 6681 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted July 10, 2015 09:19 AM
^^Something else I can add, at least for the Libra sun one it's not that he was motivated by compassion (though that was a factor), but the pain of others was so internalized that when others around him hurt, HE hurts, as if it were his own pain. He's therefore motivated to either deal with it (because he's the one feeling it as well) or get away from it ASAP. I feel bad for him on the first time we met, because the trauma I endured was inflicted somewhat on him, and he "felt" me before he even saw me, and he'd gone to the beach to get away from the pain of others in town. And though he had compassion for me, his being aware of my pain was more like "OW!" to himself. When he approached me I pulled a knife though I kept it hidden. I was resolved that when he got too close I was going to stab him with surprise and run. And he knew exactly where to stop, he told me later he felt the danger, and perhaps he could've stopped me (*) had I tried given that he was ready and I was in a weakened, injured state, but he didn't take it personally at all. He said he searched himself--because what I was feeling was inside him as he was picking it up and experiencing it for himself--to figure out how to calm me down because it was obvious I just was not going to trust him, and yet he needed his beach back, not that he was going to rat me out to the cops as he could've if he'd wanted (just by an anonymous reporting of an injured girl on the beach) and he called his aunt who was a pleasant older woman and together they calmed me down. I think he was especially psychic because he was electrocuted when he was very small, had a vivid out of body experience and everything and he grew up seeing and talking to spirits (and his mom was open to the spirit world as well, also probably triggered by her injuries though I don't know anything of his mother's chart), and then when he had a concussion (car wreck) he started having visions that basically showed him people he'd meet soon and what would happen if he didn't intervene, and so he did and that was when he realized the pain he felt was mostly coming from the people around him rather than from within himself. The visions went away but he remained strongly psychic since then and he sought ways to bring it under control, but the best he could do was curb it, and even that took a lot of effort. *My cousin and BFF also have a "psychic flash" but not anywhere that intense. When I was 14 and my cousin 17 we got into a "shootout" with (plastic) pellet guns and he "won" because he knew exactly where I was going to pop my head out next and was aiming right there before I even showed my head despite that I was trying to be tricky about it. (I put "won" in quotes as he nearly cost me an eye and so his prize was a major butt whipping from Granny.) Given that the Libra sun guy was so much more psychic and an experienced street fighter at full strength (and he was also an obvious weightlifter) while I was weakened from hunger and violence, I doubt I'd have managed to stab him...and glad I didn't, he was a sweety, and I hate to think I'd stabbed him and run probably thinking to myself that it was self-defense even though he was just trying to help. I'm glad that it didn't come to violence at all as he thought of another way to reach out to me so that neither of us tried anything we'd both regret. IP: Logged |
polkadotstars Knowflake Posts: 287 From: Washington, DC Registered: Feb 2015
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posted July 10, 2015 06:51 PM
I'm a Pisces moon in 8th and I cry and pray for road kill. Does that show you how sensitive we are?IP: Logged |
fireopal09 Knowflake Posts: 574 From: Dallas,TX, Us Registered: Oct 2010
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posted July 10, 2015 07:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by polkadotstars: I'm a Pisces moon in 8th and I cry and pray for road kill. Does that show you how sensitive we are?
You must be really hungry. ------------------ Claire "When going gets weird, the weird turn pro." -HST IP: Logged |
fireopal09 Knowflake Posts: 574 From: Dallas,TX, Us Registered: Oct 2010
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posted July 10, 2015 07:04 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gabby: I'm loving this thread...I really appreciate how we are finding the differences without bashing either sign! 💞
Ditto. To hurt others is to hurt ourselves.
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Faith Knowflake Posts: 11833 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 10, 2015 07:25 PM
quote: Originally posted by fireopal09: You must be really hungry.
Not laughing at you polkadotstars just the funny play on words. Clever, fireopal! I used to get so heartbroken over dead animals, too, when I was young. I remember being traumatized by seeing a dead bird fetus whose egg had fallen out of its nest..I stood there and sobbed and couldn't stop thinking of that for a long time. But that wore off. I de-sensitized that much, as most people do when they get older. (Though, now that I see how my children never act like I did, have never cried over little dead animals, I see how I was more sensitive back then than I realized. I thought everyone would be just as brokenhearted about a dead bird fetus. ) It sounds like you with your stellium may not have that option, polkadotstars, and in that case, I really feel for you. It was hard, back when I was THAT sensitive. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 11833 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 10, 2015 07:34 PM
editSome of the things I felt when I was a kid just look crazy, but it was all so instinctive and genuine, to me. IP: Logged |
DopGang Knowflake Posts: 356 From: <--------- over there. Registered: Jun 2015
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posted July 10, 2015 07:39 PM
Wow! It's hard for me to imagine that. I have glimpses of it with my 12th, but that's it. I'm sure that it also allows you to genuinely share in others happiness as well. That's a great thing! IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 11833 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 10, 2015 07:42 PM
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fireopal09 Knowflake Posts: 574 From: Dallas,TX, Us Registered: Oct 2010
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posted July 10, 2015 08:22 PM
I'm sorry PolkaDotStars. I thought you were being facetious. I just got finished reading a book about Richard "Ice Man" Kuklinski and Pisces Moon sort of absorbed him. Thought: Start a thread about compartmentalization, antisocial disorder. nature vs nurture, and astrology. Aubyanne would be a great fit for that sort of thread. Seriously, I've had to compartmentalize. It started when my mother could not bury a kitten that didn't survive. I was around 3-4 years old. I'll speed up to the most recent craptastic scenario. My cousin's husband hung himself in 2004. I was very close to both of them. I was the person to break the news to her after going to the hospital to confirm he was gone. Her sister was a coward and put me forth to break the horrendous news. I knew that, and I was willing to take it on. I'm sort of annoyed that empathetic Moons are portrayed as weak. ------------------ Claire "When going gets weird, the weird turn pro." -HST IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 1197 From: Miami for now.... Registered: Sep 2014
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posted July 10, 2015 09:22 PM
I have moon in pisces and I have always had a strong character and stand for what I belief in even if makes me less popular or likeable. I defend those that are mistreated or bullied even as a young girl at the cost of that making me a target so definitely NOT EASILY INFLUENCED, quite the contrary.I am very intuitive, pick up on cues others miss and feel things out easily. I am very compassionate and a sucker for a sad story, I am the girl that always ends up dating that misunderstood guy or unconventional guy or loner or rebel or black sheep in the family etc...the girl that dates the guy that inst well off and maybe a bit lost but has a lot of potential that may or may not actualize some day... I am very compassionate and feel drained when I hear traumatic events but I have learned to let my sun in virgo protect me and keep me strong so I stay focused and do what I have to do and help how I can and then disconnect. I am sensitive but also very strong. My husband has moon in cancer perhaps later I will write a bit about that. What we have in common is that we are both sensitive, sweet and caring...we both are attached to aspects of the past and can be nostalgic. IP: Logged |
BellaFenice Knowflake Posts: 3297 From: Neptune with PisceanDream, Faith, and Meissieri Registered: Sep 2013
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posted July 10, 2015 11:41 PM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: I have moon in pisces and I have always had a strong character and stand for what I belief in even if makes me less popular or likeable. I defend those that are mistreated or bullied even as a young girl at the cost of that making me a target so definitely NOT EASILY INFLUENCED, quite the contrary.I am very intuitive, pick up on cues others miss and feel things out easily. I am very compassionate and a sucker for a sad story, I am the girl that always ends up dating that misunderstood guy or unconventional guy or loner or rebel or black sheep in the family etc...the girl that dates the guy that inst well off and maybe a bit lost but has a lot of potential that may or may not actualize some day... I am very compassionate and feel drained when I hear traumatic events but I have learned to let my sun in virgo protect me and keep me strong so I stay focused and do what I have to do and help how I can and then disconnect. I am sensitive but also very strong. My husband has moon in cancer perhaps later I will write a bit about that. What we have in common is that we are both sensitive, sweet and caring...we both are attached to aspects of the past and can be nostalgic.
Are you me? I can seriously relate to everything you said! I would add that my greatest fault is giving too much of energy and getting burned badly. I tend to help people at times who are not deserving of my time and energy. I had someone blatantly use me and my other friend, only treat us like actual crap in the end. Sad to think both of our friendships meant nothing, but Pisces always wants to help and see the good in everyone. That is a bad side of Pisces Moon, not learning to set boundaries, but you live and you learn. quote: Originally posted by DopGang: Loving this conversation. It's confirming what I felt already about them. Water moons for me fall into the "difficult to love" category. I want to but the differences are too great. Cancer moon eventually is just too moody and I run away. Pisces is sweet but seems too distant. Scorpio (I know this thread isn't about them) often seems too secretive and I don't like it. If they open up then it's like you get all of it and I run. LOL But I still love them all and will always try.
Disagree on the distant part based on my Moon aspects, if anything I am too open and yielding with others. I know some Gemini Moons for example that are way more distant and unreachable in nature than Pisces, so I'd say the aspects really impact the outcome here. I had a Gemini Moon friend who always appreciated my friendship and support and then all of sudden- poof- you are not good enough for my presence, I'll disappear on you and never come back. So I can see the distance thing, but in my case I have never been the distance one in friendships. Deeper than Pisces Moons in my opinion. quote: Originally posted by Gabby: [B]Do you guys think in a relationship you should always expect and allow the pisces moon to be the more sensitive one? It seems if your ultra sensitive they get hurt by you being hurt and they don't have as quick of a bounce back emotionally as other signs...is this true?
Depends on the definition- I wouldn't say I am super sensitive but rather very compassionate. I don't get hurt in the context above, if anything I would feel super guilty for not doing enough but probably not hurt. I don't like to detach but once in a while I have to if I feel the person or situation is going to cause me considerable harm. IP: Logged |
EmpressMendez Moderator Posts: 8021 From: Brooklyn, New York Registered: May 2012
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posted July 10, 2015 11:52 PM
quote: Originally posted by polkadotstars: I'm a Pisces moon and I'm very intuitive. I am uber compassionate about everyone I meet. I believe in the best of humanity. I can be sensitive but I don't like to show when I'm really upset at something. I tend to keep that to myself.My dad is a Cancer moon. He is so wishy washy with his emotions and can be very hyper sensitive. One time my dad spent a few hours cooking dinner and my mom said it was too late for her to eat because she would get heartburn if she ate too late. So he threw everything out in the trash (btw, this is totally something I would have done too lol). He is very sensitive though with his emotions, and just gets random mood swings. When he gets like this, I have to tell myself it's just his Cancer moon coming out lol. I don't know if that helps at all
Lmao. My mother is the same way as your dad she's also Cancer moon. I'm Cancer moon too, but I have learned to channel my mood swings in more positive ways now that mt career involves me being emotionally stable ------------------ “So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets."
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DopGang Knowflake Posts: 356 From: <--------- over there. Registered: Jun 2015
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posted July 11, 2015 12:02 AM
BellaFeniceInteresting! I ask only out of curiosity. What aspects do you think helps you? By distant I mean in a sense that they seem to be busy loving the world as a whole. So much so that exclusive love relationships may seen time consuming and draining to them. That is my very general view but I'm more asking than stating. I've heard that about Gemini moons. So they are not distant to start but suddenly are gone? No warning? IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 11833 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 11, 2015 01:25 AM
Liars are hard to deal with.When you want to be nice but really just cannot stomach total BS. It's happened to me so many times, I just nod along and try to delay the inevitable moment when their fury for everything that drove them to lie in the first place gets turned on me...and I usually just sat there waiting for this, twiddling my thumbs, since I knew it would happen eventually. Just waiting for my turn to come around.... IP: Logged |
DopGang Knowflake Posts: 356 From: <--------- over there. Registered: Jun 2015
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posted July 11, 2015 01:43 AM
I deal with them at work! Grr!! One recently really pi##ed me off!
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 1197 From: Miami for now.... Registered: Sep 2014
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posted July 11, 2015 02:15 AM
@ BellaFenice: Exactly, you live and you learn! Back to OP: I have been thinking about it more and in my previous reply I discussed similarities between moon in pisces and moon in cancer, now I want to point out some differences.. They are both very romantic but moon in cancer romanticizes true intimacy, closeness, familiarity, routine, predictability, and security while moon in pisces romanticizes the unobtainable, that which is beyond your reach, an ideal, and the merging of soulmates during sex. Moon in cancer appreciates what it has and knows it does not want to lose it but moon in Pisces might have to come across the lesson "you don't know what you have until you lose it" a few times in their life bc the grass seems greener on the other side often in their eyes. Moon in Cancer is sweet but intensity does not make them feel safe so they are better with boundaries and putting limits with how much they love bc they protect themselves from getting hurt while Moon in pisces has no limits and wears their heart on their sleeve, is more willing to risk it all perhaps bc they dont think they will get hurt naively or feel the risk is worth it. You can say that moon in cancer can learn from moon in pisces to let go, get out of their comfort zone, take a risk and feel more deeply while moon in pisces can learn from moon in cancer that the grass is greener were you water it and to appreciate the comfort of familiarity, companionship, loyalty and predictability.
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hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 1197 From: Miami for now.... Registered: Sep 2014
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posted July 11, 2015 02:39 AM
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