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Ceridwen
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posted July 15, 2015 02:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Sun conjunct Ceres with your husband...so sweet.

I have a lot to say about Ceres, it's like a loaded conveyor belt in my mind, but I don't want to unload everything at once...

One thing is, my youngest son and I have sun conjunct Ceres DW. I take care of him and he takes care of me Our level of mutual emotional understanding is high.



Unload, unload!

Talking and thinking about Ceres gives me warm fuzzy feelings, though I know that the goddess has some claws as well, I guess so though. possibly when she feels her loved one is bieng threatened and she goes into protective mode.


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Ceres-Pluto- Wow! In Cancer!


I have HIGHEST respect for Ceres-Pluto. It is so emotionally intense. Think Moon-Pluto but with a bit more pragmatic twist posibly.

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posted July 15, 2015 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Faith, my cousin believes Ceres is artificial and malefic

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Funny, I just checked his chart...he has Ceres conjunct Pluto in Cancer on his SN.
His pr Ceres @ 20 Cancer conjunct tr sun

The King is alive!!! I mean...that's very interesting

Speaking of Ceres, Cancer and Pluto - my favorite celeb's Cancer Ceres is exactly opposite my Neptune and my Ceres is conjunct his Pluto by 1. I want to make cookies for him


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posted July 15, 2015 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And then place them one by one on the floor and wait until he stoods right below the cage I prepared for him.

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posted July 15, 2015 02:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceres-Pluto in synastry must be so intense!

BTW Richard Burton and Liz Taylor had that. his Pluto opposing her Ceres. Voracious.

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posted July 15, 2015 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If Ceres-Pluto is intense then I'm doomed with my Moon-Ceres conjunction in Libra where Pluto used to hang out not that long ago Could be one of the reasons why I'm obsessed with him.

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posted July 15, 2015 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Waaaait. I forgot my Ceres is also opposite his Moon :O If 5 deg isn't too much.

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posted July 15, 2015 02:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As for Ceres Pluto


Angelina and Brad: trine

Johnny and June: sextile

Laurence Olivier - Vivien Leigh: opposition (at 4, wide)

Burton - TAylor: opposition (4)


my brother and his gf: square and quinkunx
(their fights are novel or film-like; like the two main acts from some screwball comedy or alternatively drama, for now they are still on the comedy-side though)

seems the harmonious aspects are a little easier to handle.

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posted July 15, 2015 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about composites?
And what do you think about Demeter the asteroid? I have it opposite my Moon and Ceres so I'm really curious.

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posted July 15, 2015 03:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel Ceres is more influential than Demeter (Dwarf planet and all). But of cuorse DEmeter is valid, too.

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posted July 15, 2015 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I suppose it's important in my chart since it forms a grand square with my nodes (one in Cancer) and the Moon and it's even closely conjunct my last name asteroid. With all these Moon, Ceres and Demeter afflictions it's no wonder I don't want to and shouldn't be a mother.

Do you pay attention to non-Pluto-Ceres contacts in general?
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Grand Crosses demand attention, I agree.


I definitely pay attention to all Ceres-aspects, not just Ceres-Pluto. But the Ceres-Pluto-Proserpina ones are interesting to me cause of their mythology.

Well my Ceres is conjunct Jupiter (and PHolus), and HIS Eros conjuncts that as well. Never ceases to make me laugh. lol

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posted July 15, 2015 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's such a pity that you're not allowed to look after your baby Eros

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posted July 15, 2015 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

Unload, unload!

Talking and thinking about Ceres gives me warm fuzzy feelings, though I know that the goddess has some claws as well, I guess so though. possibly when she feels her loved one is bieng threatened and she goes into protective mode.


Thanks!

It's all so eclectic and disorganized.

But I would love to discuss, on this thread:

1) Orbs - What orb does one think Ceres ought to have?

2) Meaning - As I understand it, Ceres represents how we nourish others and how we are nourished in return. It's a give and take function. Do others see it this way?

3) Rulership - Ceres rules....(fill in the blank)

4) Synastry - Perhaps there are special combinations that are particularly sweet, that we have not uncovered yet? I have a theory about Jupiter conjunct Ceres...would like to explore all combinations, but that would have to go in the IA forum.

5) Ceres through the Signs - I'll be back later with some notes and maybe some links.

6) Mythology - ...though I hate mythology.

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There now, that's a little better organized, my 6H sun can feel like it's done something.

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posted July 15, 2015 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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3) Rulership - Ceres rules....(fill in the blank)

Taurus?

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posted July 15, 2015 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:
Faith, my cousin believes Ceres is artificial and malefic

Your cousin has Aquarius Ceres square Pluto?

But seriously, don't underestimate the Illuminati.

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Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:
Speaking of Ceres, Cancer and Pluto - my favorite celeb's Cancer Ceres is exactly opposite my Neptune and my Ceres is conjunct his Pluto by 1. I want to make cookies for him

Hahahahha that face is so funny!

And you know what kind of cookies Pluto wants right?

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posted July 15, 2015 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aunt Anomalia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Your cousin has Aquarius Ceres square Pluto?

You're not that far! Ceres exactly conjunt Uranus.

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But seriously, don't underestimate the Illuminati.

You should become friends

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And you know what kind of cookies Pluto wants right?

Wow


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posted July 16, 2015 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:
You're not that far! Ceres exactly conjunt Uranus.

*pats self on back*

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Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:
You should become friends

Ok

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Originally posted by Aunt Anomalia:
Wow

That face cracks me up!

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posted July 16, 2015 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Answering my own questions:

1) Orbs

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2) Meaning

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[Ceres] is the quintessential Earth Mother, and rules over food, cooking and nutrition. Wherever she appears in your chart, she shows how best you feel nurtured. This is also the area where you can easily provide love and comfort.

Your Ceres Sign influences mothering, hard work, parenting, and gardening as well. It will show how well we go with the flow… the universal one, that is. This is the unification of both giving and receiving through ourselves as an exchange of energy.


http://www.alwaysastrology.com/asteroids.html

3) Rulership

I've heard a lot of technical reasons for why Ceres should be the ruler of Virgo but all that sticks in my mind is that Ceres reminds me of whole grains and that is what a lot of Virgos eat (health food.)

4) Synastry

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Ceres conjunctions and midpoints in synastry enhance the quality of any kind of relationship due to the desire of the Ceres person to provide comfort, patience, and unconditional love to another.

^ Link

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Aspects to Ceres between two charts will not make or break a relationship, but this asteroid [sic] gives insight into the intricacies of nurturing, separation and loss between two people.

^ Link

And as I said above, I think it involves give and take. So if you have Ceres conjunct a planet, perhaps there's an effect where Ceres absorbs the planet's energy and feeds it back to the planet person.

5) Ceres through the Signs

Click Here

Or here.

6) Mythology

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Ceres (or Demeter) is named after the Goddess of the crops. She had a daughter (Persephone) and they were close. So close, in fact, that Ceres never wanted to let her go. Then Pluto (or Hades) kidnapped Persephone and dragged her off to the Underworld. Ceres’ grief was intense. In retaliation, she denied mankind their food by making the crops wither and die; she was hurting, so everyone else would as well. A deal was eventually struck with Pluto, and Persephone was allowed to spend part of the year above ground, with her mother. This was when Ceres allowed the crops to grow. When Persephone spent the rest of the year below ground, the crops were dormant. So Ceres’ cycle of growth and loss reflects the cycle of life. In your chart, her sickle-shaped glyph describes how you handle that cycle.

- Sasstrology

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posted July 16, 2015 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceres Discovery Chart


http://darkstarastrology.com/ceres-planet/2/

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Notes:
- Ceres was discovered in Leo
- Ceres has a 10 Cap sun trine Taurus Mars
- And a domicile Cancer moon, conjunct Jupiter
- Pluto in Pisces

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posted July 16, 2015 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually I'm just going to copy what this page says about Ceres in the signs, for others' convenience.

Ceres in Aries nurtures independence; they show their love through physical activities rather than cuddling. They help others become self-sufficient through encouragement. Those with this combination may feel inadequate or incompetent at times if they had to compete with their own parent at some point. They are very protective of their family. They are assertive and like physical action. They may end up with a challenging partner in some kind of relationship. Ceres in Aries must be nurtured in an active, independent way by their family and partners in order to feel loved. If they feel dominated or pushed to take on responsibility before they are ready, they may develop issues. They value self-determination, and do their best to support that trait in those they care for.

Ceres in Taurus feels nurtured when they are fed and pampered. A good massage helps them feel grounded and cared for. They nurture others by giving them the necessities of life like food, shelter and financial stability. They may become overly dependent on their belongings or may equate self worth with what they own. Touching is an important part of nurturing for this combination. If they can relax, it is beneficial to them. They feel worthwhile if they can provide for themselves.

Ceres in Gemini feels nurtured when someone takes the time to talk or write to them. They need to communicate with others. Traveling with them or even going along on errands will make them feel that you care. They like to nurture others through education, sitting down for a good talk, and the gift of travel. They share important information whenever they can. When things aren't going right, they may suffer from mental confusion or try to be intellectually superior. They love to learn and be listened to. They feel good about themselves when they feel smart or intellectually competent for the task at hand.

Ceres in Cancer creates a nurturing home environment. It is where they feel the most comfortable and nurtured themselves. They enjoy being mothered and mothering others. Hugs are popular. When they don't feel nurtured, they can feel like the whole world hates them. They provide both physical and emotional support. Food can play a large role in nurturing themselves and others. They are very sentimental. Those whose needs were met at a young age will in turn take excellent care of others. Those who were deprived or smothered with too much affection may end up being overly needy. Self-acceptance is important.

Ceres in Leo takes pride in nurturing others. They are cheerful and optimistic, at least in public. They provide a living example of the self-assured personality. They have a way of infusing others with confidence as well. While they aren't the best at nurturing emotionally, they are dedicated. Nurturing others also helps Ceres in Leo feel good about themselves, especially when they receive accolades for it. They love attention, admiration and respect. They are creative and independent, and foster these traits in others. When they feel down, they may feel inadequate and unappreciated. They help others find their creative muse and make the most of it. Self-expression is all important to them.

Ceres in Virgo don't mean to be critical, but it may be the approach they take to nurturing others. They are really just trying to help. They feel good when they are busy, especially with detailed work. They can also take a nice detailed criticism in a constructive way most of the time. They want to nurture others through service. At worst, they become perfectionists who never can be satisfied with their work or that of others. They are well organized and can help teach this talent to others. They feel nurtured by good quality clothing, food and health. They can teach others to be competent, proud of their work, and to be self-disciplined.

Ceres in Libra is nurtured by beauty. They notice the small subtle things that others do to show they care. They do the same for others, nurturing in small ways and surrounding others with beauty. They like everyone to cooperate and share. Having a good relationship is very nurturing to Ceres in Libra. They may get caught up in need acceptance from others and forget to work on themselves. Good manners and sensitivity towards the feelings of others go far in nurturing this combination. They appreciate the effort. Luxury is not wasted on them either they truly appreciate fine dining, fine fabrics and beauty all around them.

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posted July 16, 2015 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceres in Scorpio feel nurtured through touch, especially intimacy. They enjoy anything mysterious or being part of something transforming. Healing others is fulfilling for them. They form deep bonds with their loved ones that make them feel whole. Emotional self control is important to them, and helping others through transformational experiences is very powerful for them. They may become jealous, possessive or resentful when they don't feel nurtured. Stable relationships are an important part of their nurturing. Isolation causes problems.

Ceres in Sagittarius hides their nurturing qualities. They tend to reflect the drive and passion of those around them. They want those around them to succeed. They are not good at taking the initiative when it comes to nurturing. They prefer to share wisdom, adventure and knowledge as a form of nurturing. They may be excellent at giving advice or teaching. They may feel their life is meaningless when stressed. Part of their nurturing nature is to encourage optimism in others. They show their concern by taking part in social issues. They feel nurtured when they have the freedom to explore and broaden their horizons.

Ceres In Capricorn feels nurtured when they are organized and in control. They help others learn how to succeed. They take great comfort in every achievement they make. They have learned to take responsibility, now they will teach this to others. When stressed they can be overly dependent on their status in an effort to make themselves feel better. Surprises turn their world upside down. Goal setting and working hard is more their thing. They try their best to get others to realize how beneficial this path is to meeting your goals. It is hard for them to accept themselves sometimes. They equate feeling loved with how well they perform in life.

Ceres in Aquarius finds their solace in the strange and offbeat. They also love being around friends. When they are down in the dumps, there is nothing better than when their friends show up. They may have felt abandoned as a child, and they taught themselves to distance themselves from that feeling. It is hard for them to admit that they need someone else. Intimacy may be difficult. When Ceres in Aquarius nurtures others, they help them develop a sense of social justice. They also want their loved ones to appreciate and accept their own uniqueness. They feel nurtured when they are accepted by a group or help out in a cause. When stressed they may feel disconnected or inept socially. They value personal freedom. They also love to serve their fellow man. This makes them feel they are doing well.

Ceres in Pisces reflects the emotions of those around them. They want to understand and help people through emotional crises. They are truly compassionate and they supply this through nurturing. They love anything imaginative. It fills them with good feelings and makes them feel nurtured. When feeling down, they may feel helpless or abandoned. They need time alone to de-stress and re-energize themselves. Water is calming. Self-acceptance may depend on their ability to be selfless.
http://www.alwaysastrology.com/ceres-signs.html

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posted July 16, 2015 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I never gave Ceres much attention but after reading about it in Leo it makes a lot of sense. Plenty of things really hit home.
That said, it only makes one aspect.

Unless I need to widen the orb on astro because they consider it an asteroid.

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posted July 16, 2015 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the feedback.

I forgot, I know some people with Ceres in Leo....falling in my first house. You know, those people actually bought me some really cool clothes?

Makes sense.

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posted July 16, 2015 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you Leo rising?
Or cancer?

Well I don't think I'd be a person you'd want to be buying you clothes! LOL

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