posted August 22, 2015 06:16 PM            

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posted August 22, 2015 08:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I love Trump!

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I don't think I would say I love Trump
but I do love what he is doing. Many years ago
when I spent hour driving a cab Rush Limbaugh earned the moniker shI*stick. Simply meaning sometimes what really sticks does not stink until someone stirs the pot.
The Trump is the biggest stick to EVER stir the stinking pot.
Perhaps he is what both political parties
DESERVE.
If I had my drathers I'll be living in NZ when the next prez hits office, but I really hope he does not get BS elected.

posted August 22, 2015 08:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Well said, Nine.

However, I do believe he is serious this time around about getting the top job, even if only for vanity's sake. And his chart progressions in the runup to the 2016 election are formidable. Personally I have no interest in what this TV celebrity and real estate developer has to say about anything in public policy. He seems to think that the election gives us our next dictator. He should go back to his own little banana republic.

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Yes progressions, transits and also in Heliocentric look good for him all the way through. Its the part after that that gets more complicated. Governing is not like just
telling architects what you want and then compromising a little. How will he cope?
I suppose he could just executive order things like obarry.
Still a long way off to Nov16

posted February 10, 2016 01:16 AM            

I remember when people said that Ronald Reagan was the antichrist because his first middle and last names all had 6 letters in them and someone had called him Ronald Rayguns
way back before he ran.
Then some called Bush41 the devil because the points of light foundation was a front for the new world order.
The some called Bill Clinton the devil because he was too loved and the same with Obama mesmerizing.
I remember when Ross Perot ran and some said he was the devil, turned out he was just a spoiler.
It seems there has long been an obsession with getting the devil into the Whitehouse as much as there has with getting the last one out.
But what if we could really elect the real devil? It has been said that the Devils greatest trick has been to convince the world the he does not even exist, so getting elected president would be a much SMALLER trick. The voters of course would all be fooled, but then the voters are always fooled. That is the very nature of the bloodsuckers(polyTICKS).
AGAIN >
But what if we could really elect the real devil?
WOULD WE.
Well of course we would, because he would say what we want to hear and he would make us believe it naturally because he is the Devil.
Donald is redder than Hellboy without makeup.
Tonight a commentator referring to Mr. Trump winning New Hampshire, "Well we have to give the devil his due" commenting that Mr. Trumpf had fulfilled his promise.
Just a figure of speech, RIGHT?

He couldn't really be the devil.Could He?
Is it simply the time for THE DEVIL, like it doesn't matter which polytic we elect, the DEVIL in spirit will inhabit that person? yes a crazy idea.
But is one potential candidate for demonic
habitation better than another.
AGAIN
But what if we could really elect the real devil?

The devil is popular right now, we even have a new TV program called Lucifer. The devil to be is bored in hell and chooses to live in the City of Angels.People are going to hell and not getting punished as they should because well the DEVIL is in LA.
it is entertainment, but why is it entertainment, what does it say about us THAT that is entertainment.
Mostly I suppose because it is largely believed that the devil does not exist.
http://mindcontrolblackassassins.com/2015/08/19/donald-trump-the-devils-run-fo r-the-white-house/

It is basically as if/IF everyone KNOWS that he is THE DEVIL and they will elect him ANYWAY.
WE ARE ALL LIKE THE FROG IN THE WATER THAT HEATS SLOWLY.

posted February 10, 2016 08:46 AM            

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posted February 10, 2016 09:02 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Trump is not the devil lol

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You can't see any horns?

posted February 10, 2016 11:29 AM            

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Originally posted by etherealsaturn:
If anyone is the devil it's Hillary Clinton

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yes she also has that look,,

But if she gets indicted which Obama could have stopped, then who is Obama helping into office. BoomBurg,Colonel Sanders or Primo Don?

posted February 10, 2016 02:34 PM            

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posted February 10, 2016 02:48 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I like that he controls his own destiny, I like he is nobody's puppet,I like he is not concerned with PC and is not going around kissing everyone's b*tt. I love he is not a push over, that he has a personality, is self made and stands up for himself.

That been said I don't like anyone who is running and will vote for him just to annoy everyone who is obsessed with PC.

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posted February 10, 2016 02:59 PM            

that is a myth. a story line that has been repeated for years,

posted February 10, 2016 03:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Seimei:
just one part > self made

that is a myth. a story line that has been repeated for years,

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I agree with you. I don't believe getting a million dollar loan from your wealthy parents would ever constitute "self-made" success. More like rich parent generosity. However, I would call Bernie Sanders self made if you look at his backstory. Without bringing politics in this, I'm solely arguing on the meaning of self made

posted February 10, 2016 04:35 PM            

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posted February 10, 2016 05:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Trump had to pay the loan back and with interest. Turning a legitimately borrowed one million into a multi-billion dollar empire is the epitome of the American dream and would (I surmise) qualify as "self-made." Most people would have squandered the money.

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posted February 10, 2016 06:43 PM            

What matters is a candidates' fitness/readiness for a high public office.

Seimei, I understand your allegorical use of 'devil', but I think our politics is
best served whenever we can avoid demonizing anyone and speak in terms of clear principles and issues that matter.

Notice that Donald Trump has never run for or inhabited elective office. He's never shown any real interest in public service, just in being president, the king ego. He's an ambitious socialite. Nor was he "self made." *If you get a loan from someone else - anyone else - no matter what you do with that you
were not 'self made' since you needed the *help* in the first place. When you add up all the people who help us, little or lots, it dispenses with this ego-based need to think of ourselves or anyone as 'self-made'.

Two people got together and donated something of themselves to bring every one of us into being. Families raised children. Let's stop this self-blinding social delusion that because a particular person can become wealthy and that wealth can be measured 'a lot', that somehow that person 'made' themselves or even their success 'all by themselves.' This is the myth the wealthy use to keep themselves in celebrity, worshiped, and followed blindly.

I highly recommend the Dalai Lama's commentary on interdependence, which
can be found in the interview book by Howard Cutler, The Art of Happiness.

What is actually underlying such mythology are:

1) the assumptions of the worthiness of the goal of material wealth.

2) that business success qualifies a person to hold elective office, especially the White House.

What is underlying these is the lure and trap of *ownership*, that owning things, possessing things and holding onto them is in anyway a path to any sort of happiness or wisdom. In the Zen tradition, this all is seen as grasping, that primarily psychological tendency trained into the nervous system early on, to grasp at and fight to hold onto things - transient, material things (or people).

Any dream built on such things is delusion.

Not all Americans Dream of wealth or owning things. I outgrew that in my 20s.

Some of us dream of peace on earth. Some of us dream of Justice, and true Equality, because we know our own happiness is far greater when those around us are also happy.

posted February 10, 2016 07:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Oh, I see this thread has no more call for astrology. So I guess I'll jump in here with some astrology-free input.

What matters is a candidates'fitness/readiness for a high public office.

Seimei, I understand your allegorical use of 'devil', but I think our politics is
best served whenever we can avoid demonizing anyone and speak in terms of clear principles and issues that matter.

Notice that Donald Trump has never run for or inhabited elective office. He's never shown any real interest in public service, just in being president, the king ego. He's an ambitious socialite. Nor was he "self made." *If you get a loan from someone else - anyone else - no matter what you do with that you
were not 'self made' since you needed the *help* in the first place. When you add up all the people who help us, little or lots, it dispenses with this ego-based need to think of ourselves or anyone as 'self-made'.

Two people got together and donated something of themselves to bring every one of us into being. Families raised children. Let's stop this self-blinding social delusion that because a particular person can become wealthy and that wealth can be measured 'a lot', that somehow that person 'made' themselves or even their success 'all by themselves.' This is the myth the wealthy use to keep themselves in celebrity, worshiped, and followed blindly.

I highly recommend the Dalai Lama's commentary on interdependence, which
can be found in the interview book by Howard Cutler, The Art of Happiness.

What is actually underlying such mythology are:

1) the assumptions of the worthiness of the goal of material wealth.

2) that business success qualifies a person to hold elective office, especially the White House.

What is underlying these is the lure and trap of *ownership*, that owning things, possessing things and holding onto them is in anyway a path to any sort of happiness or wisdom. In the Zen tradition, this all is seen as grasping, that primarily psychological tendency trained into the nervous system early on, to grasp at and fight to hold onto things - transient, material things (or people).

Any dream built on such things is delusion.

Not all Americans Dream of wealth or owning things. I outgrew that in my 20s.

Some of us dream of peace on earth. Some of us dream of Justice, and true Equality, because we know our own happiness is far greater when those around us are also happy.

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I 1000000% agree with you. From an astrology perspective perhaps that is one of the reasons why Capricorn influenced people are so melancholy. They work so hard, they have so much perseverance only to realize that hard work and dedication can only take one so far and success cannot be measure by money.

posted February 10, 2016 08:25 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Bc of our big governtment and crappy system we are a nation of debt and asking for a loan is unavoidable to make anything of yourself sustantiable in the business world these days, that is sadly the american way and our reality so him asking for a loan to get going does not deny his success or hard work or that he is self made.

Also there are plenty of presidents with hx in politics and holding positions in public office and what you get is more of the same, with donald at least there is some spice added to the mix.

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posted February 13, 2016 02:11 PM            

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Some of us dream of peace on earth. Some of us dream of Justice, and true Equality, because we know our own happiness is far greater when those around us are also happy.....Kannon McAfee

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yes with a Jupiterian twist.
I can relate to that.

posted February 13, 2016 02:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Other People's Money (OPM) is common in building a business. Borrowing to achieve success doesn't make anyone less self-made. What Trump built is incredible. Lottery winners are broke in a few years. Few could have turned a million dollar loan into the empire Trump built. No, money isn't everything. But business acumen is what this country needs-- not more career politicians.

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EXACTLY!

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