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teasel
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posted March 07, 2016 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
And don`t forget Moon in Sagittarius is one of the most opiniated signs. They have an opinion on everything and they will not shut up about it either. (my brother has Moon in Sag, so has Mr Sag, and you really donīt have to wonder about what they think about something, they hit you with it over and over again - which interstingly is not the case in personal relationships, but everything else, especially when it comes to life philosophy and politics. And they tend to be on a mission or crusade most of the time, at least the long monologues make the audience feel like it often. )

I think the actor Anson Mount, has moon in Sagittarius. I wasn't that familiar with him until he started commenting on the political debates, and the race itself.

He posted a letter that was posted to a newsletter by a comedian (supposedly), only the guy was being serious.
http://www.facebook.com/ansonmount1/posts/1031661096891474

As an Aries, I dislike any comparison of Trump to my sign, but that's why I've held back on commenting astrologically: I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings by comparing his placements to theirs.

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posted March 07, 2016 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wouldn't want to become political, let out compare Donny to Hitler but in terms of issues with racism, i was asking myself how Ceres plays a role.

I saw people's charts and regulus conj an angle or an important personal planet = immense success. Well, that's my experience so far.
Maybe regulus provides royal-like opportunities or the immense self-confidence (you can't get anything if you think you don't deserve it) creates positive energy

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posted March 07, 2016 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Enneline:

I saw people's charts and regulus conj an angle or an important personal planet = immense success. Well, that's my experience so far.
Maybe regulus provides royal-like opportunities or the immense self-confidence (you can't get anything if you think you don't deserve it) creates positive energy


Exactly. Totally agree.

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posted March 07, 2016 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Sometimes i feel like i am Living in a different Dimension than others

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posted March 07, 2016 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Enneline:
I wouldn't want to become political, let out compare Donny to Hitler but in terms of issues with racism, i was asking myself how Ceres plays a role.

I saw people's charts and regulus conj an angle or an important personal planet = immense success. Well, that's my experience so far.
Maybe regulus provides royal-like opportunities or the immense self-confidence (you can't get anything if you think you don't deserve it) creates positive energy



Ceres 13aq06
Vesta 28 pi01

I did a quick google advanced search of mark andrew holmes website with the word racism.
99942,7671,4754,52975,9499,279
The first is apophis and did not come from that search but conjuncts panthoos
can view the string at http://www.true-node.com/eph1/
52975 was rx and has since turned direct for him and is in the same degree, conjunct sp Jupiter and sp ascendant

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posted March 07, 2016 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Sometimes i feel like i am Living in a different Dimension than others

What do you mean by that? Almost everyone on this thread hates trump except for Ami, Randall and I so we are the minority here not the reverse.

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posted March 07, 2016 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What would Ceres have to do with racism?

It's conjunct my Sun. Not a racist.

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posted March 07, 2016 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
What do you mean by that? Almost everyone on this thread hates trump except for Ami, Randall and I so we are the minority here not the reverse.

Maybe she meant that she can just look at the chart, and not hate on the person?

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posted March 07, 2016 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
What would Ceres have to do with racism?

It's conjunct my Sun. Not a racist.


Yes, I also want Enneline to elaborate on that.
Ceres does not alone indicate that you only wish to nurture a certain group, surely.

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posted March 07, 2016 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
Maybe she meant that she can just look at the chart, and not hate on the person?

Thank you! I do love that about her if that is what she meant.

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posted March 07, 2016 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
What do you mean by that? Almost everyone on this thread hates trump except for Ami, Randall and I so we are the minority here not the reverse.

I DO NOT HATE DONALD TRUMP,HYPATIA.
I am just ill-adjusted to him becoming leader of the free world. To me he is being blindly adored just as Barrack Obama was by the liberals in 2008, but for different reasons and by different people. To me it is an interesting phenomena.
There is a difference between voting for him if he is the nominee and really liking the person, and trying to understand the phenomena of his popularity and his core being via astrology.
And that is also different from just using him, and the times and events to study astrology.
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posted March 07, 2016 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
What would Ceres have to do with racism?

It's conjunct my Sun. Not a racist.


My mom has that too. I have it in my 3rd in Aquarius.

I think is impossible to detect by looking at a chart racism!!!! That is something you learn, nobody is born racist.

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posted March 07, 2016 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
What would Ceres have to do with racism?

It's conjunct my Sun. Not a racist.



What a ridiculous statement to associate ceres with racism lol

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posted March 07, 2016 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

What a ridiculous statement to associate ceres with racism lol



It started with this from Enneline >
"Did you see Regulus conjunct his Asc?

Also, did you know that Ceres was conjunct Hitler's MC? ...
Ceres is supposedly also about DNA, genes, racism.....wonder where Donald has his ceres"

And yeah I have never read THAT ANYWHERE before here.
I mean millions since Hitler have had Ceres on MC, so how does that mean Ceres has to do with Hitler or racism? .

I agree with you on the Ridiculous.

And I agree with Hypatia, a propensity for something may be in a chart, but no one is born a racist.

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posted March 07, 2016 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People survive under 100 Eur' wage a month in Ukraine.

WOW,, MAYBE I should go live with the Lions in L'Viv.

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posted March 07, 2016 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Obama has Nessus conj the Moon, so people better be careful what asparagus they throw at the Donald

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posted March 07, 2016 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sulkyarcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Donald Trump has Sun trine Jupiter. He's lucky as hell.

I know he won't be lucky forever, or in everything. But yeah, his Sun trine Jupiter is his lucky charm!

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posted March 07, 2016 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sulkyarcher     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Speaking of Hitler, Hitler also had Sun trine Jupiter. But his was in earth signs. He escaped 42 attempts at killing him!

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posted March 07, 2016 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Obama has Nessus conj the Moon, so people better be careful what asparagus they throw at the Donald


Yes, YES astrology.

I have been working with some help from Faith creating a list of all heliocentric nodes list by sign in pairs.
Simply as a tool to study their use and value.
So even though the work is only maybe 60% done I am compelled to look at a persons planets against the nodes.
Mr. Trump has the Earth/Sun square to perihelion/aphelion of Uranus but far more than 1 degree to node of Venus and aphelia of Mercury at time of birth.
So Uranus is far more powerful in chart, but due to the movement of nodes since 1946 to within the 1 degree mark does that also increase power of Mercury and Venus in his progressed life. This is unknown but not unknowable.
Minor planets helio nodes in vicinity of node of Venus and aphelia of Mercury would need a trigger in any chart. Uranus is not a personal planet but in the chart of Mr. Trump it is very strong.
During the last debate Mr. Rubio attacked Mr. Trump in the area of spray on skin-tone
So I looked and the Helio node 32726 Chromios in 1946 exactly with the node Venus and aphelia of Mercury.
Astrologically, Chromios seems to indicate color, being colorful, standing out, being a "character." Chromos is Greek for "color."

So we all know Mr. Trump is a colorful person.
In helio he has Sappho(neurotic) conjunct
Aneas (praise). This is the same degree as geocentric Chromios.13 Leo> Plutp/EA midpoint
and op to Ceres.(nothing racist in his own obsession with his own looks)just vanity.
So did Mr. Rubio know that Mr. Trump has a thing about his own skin tone being just right. Something I PERSONALLY think they fail at when he is too RED.
At any rate I am eager to get the list done but am only here these past 2 days because I needed a break from the work.
List undone I am still compelled to start
using what is done. Maybe someday the IAU will name one for the Don.

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posted March 07, 2016 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Seimei:
I DO NOT HATE DONALD TRUMP,HYPATIA.
I am just ill-adjusted to him becoming leader of the free world. To me he is being blindly adored just as Barrack Obama was by the liberals in 2008, but for different reasons and by different people. To me it is an interesting phenomena.
There is a difference between voting for him if he is the nominee and really liking the person, and trying to understand the phenomena of his popularity and his core being via astrology.
And that is also different from just using him, and the times and events to study astrology.
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I never ask to take a poll here of who likes.


I can definitely understand your desire to understand the phenomenon of his popularity on a psychological and astrological level.

I will be the first to admit he has a big ego and looks like a cartoon. Why does he insist on tanning? His eyes look white and the rest of him looks orange. Being married to a girl 25 years younger than him doesn't help his image either but underneath all that ego I feel there is also a very intelligent guy whose intellegence is understimated because of his style of communication and how he looks who genuinely cares and is worried about his country and wants to protect it.

Why is he popular?

I think people are in awe with his compulsive bluntness at all times and people are tired of politicians and nothing about how he carries himself sends a message he is a politician. His personality is also unlike any candidate who has ever ran and there is a lot of power in that. Last but definitely not least his political views and concerns resonate with a lot of Americans and he gives this sense that he actually has the balls to make some noise while in the white house and make some progress in the areas he wants change to happen. Also since he is already rich he feels he doesn't have to kiss anybody's butt which makes him hard to control and less of a puppet bc he funds his own campaign so he is more free and owns himself; He doesn't rely on lets say donations from Goldman Sach's.

Who knows though maybe he will become president and it will be a complete disaster but I don't think he will do worse than presidents before him. I feel he will do just as bad or better and think there is a good chance he will do better and that some positive changes will result from it. Will he fix all our problems? No.

I think astrologically people pick up on his moon in sag in the 4th strong desire to protect his country as well as his Uranus in the 10th rebellious strike, eccentricity, unpredictability and freedom loving non conformist personality.

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posted March 07, 2016 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why does it feel like people are using this thread to try and push their beliefs on other's, under the guise of astrology?

Truly not trying to offend anyone, but that is the vibe that I'm picking up from this thread.

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posted March 07, 2016 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Hi Enneline ,

well I wouldn`t make such comparisions, .... hm how to finish that sentence now? No clue, I just let it trail away.

Anyway what I`d say though is: Listen to what a man (or woman) sais.
I mean really LISTEN to what they SAY, not what you THINK they SAY or MEAN.

That`s been the one thing that was kinda fascinating to me when reviewing historical periods and especially politicians. They all said what they were going to do in the early stages. People just didn`t believe they really meant what they say.

But nah, don`t wanna get into that discussion right now.

Anyway yes I noticed Regulus on the ASC. If it is his right ASC at least, well I guess it makes sense. Regulus is the fixed stars of kings or people who think they deserve to be king.
He seems to think so, and so do quite a few other people.


Well said.

Yes such comparisons are unwarranted. Trump is a business man protective of his country and its economy not a mass murderer or someone with genocide ideologies, that is really jumping the gun.

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posted March 07, 2016 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Sometimes i feel like i am Living in a different Dimension than others

I don't even have a television, don't read the newspaper, and really have no clue about current politics.

It amazes me how easily political discussions can turn people against each other.

"Oh you're a Republican? Well sorry, I cannot like you any more!"

Spiritual emptiness. People have to move beyond this

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posted March 07, 2016 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
It amazes me how easily political discussions can turn people against each other.

"Oh you're a Republican? Well sorry, I cannot like you any more!"

Spiritual emptiness. People have to move beyond this


Me, too.

I don't regularly talk to people in person about politics, but what I've seen online disturbs me.

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posted March 07, 2016 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah...I don't mean to sound above it all....I've had my favorites in the past, and frustrations, and probably would be shocked and appalled if a close friend was pushing Hillary on me ...but relative to what Ceri said...I don't connect with it very strongly.

Sorry to go off topic

I'm going back to the HNNs pronto, Seimei. *salutes*

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