posted March 09, 2016 03:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Rubio is just about done.

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TOAST,,

He looks VERY delusional stating that he can win at this point. If he wants to run for Governor of Florida he should exit this race before the Florida primary.
EGO driven train wreck.

posted March 09, 2016 04:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Rubio is just about done.

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YES, the establishment is not trusted. They did him no favors when they backed him a la Jeb lol

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posted March 09, 2016 08:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

YES, the establishment is not trusted. They did him no favors when they backed him a la Jeb lol

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At least Jeb bowed out with some class.

posted March 09, 2016 08:43 PM            

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posted March 10, 2016 02:36 AM            

Ami Anne, were you serious when saying this? I couldn't tell. Not trying to be offensive to your personal beliefs but the idea that a politician serves in some divine right form is exactly the kind of delusional mindset that Trump is trying to appeal to. I'm sorry, but that statement makes no sense to me, astrologically, or otherwise. God and country should not be intertwined, supposedly that was the idea in the U.S. anyways.

posted March 10, 2016 03:50 AM            

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Originally posted by Brendan34:
"To me, Mr Trump was raised by God to save our country. Certain aspects in charts seem as if God put his very hand on the chart and fashioned that aspect. Actually, God made each chart and each person. However, sometimes aspects will highlight themselves to me as a saving grace or a perfectly placed one. The five degree orb between Uranus and the Sun is such to me."

Ami Anne, were you serious when saying this? I couldn't tell. Not trying to be offensive to your personal beliefs but the idea that a politician serves in some divine right form is exactly the kind of delusional mindset that Trump is trying to appeal to. I'm sorry, but that statement makes no sense to me, astrologically, or otherwise. God and country should not be intertwined, supposedly that was the idea in the U.S. anyways.

By the way, one president being elected cannot "save a country," they can shift things and attempt to have progressive legislation passed but the culture, the times, and the people ultimately set the tone and have to save themselves. If anything, Congress and the House have more of an impact than one man or woman running for President.

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pardon me while I rofl

posted March 10, 2016 09:39 AM            

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Originally posted by Brendan34:
"To me, Mr Trump was raised by God to save our country. Certain aspects in charts seem as if God put his very hand on the chart and fashioned that aspect. Actually, God made each chart and each person. However, sometimes aspects will highlight themselves to me as a saving grace or a perfectly placed one. The five degree orb between Uranus and the Sun is such to me."

Ami Anne, were you serious when saying this? I couldn't tell. Not trying to be offensive to your personal beliefs but the idea that a politician serves in some divine right form is exactly the kind of delusional mindset that Trump is trying to appeal to. I'm sorry, but that statement makes no sense to me, astrologically, or otherwise. God and country should not be intertwined, supposedly that was the idea in the U.S. anyways.

By the way, one president being elected cannot "save a country," they can shift things and attempt to have progressive legislation passed but the culture, the times, and the people ultimately set the tone and have to save themselves. If anything, Congress and the House have more of an impact than one man or woman running for President.

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posted March 10, 2016 11:16 AM            

Starting around a year ago I began collecting birth data on dictators and fascists from around the world to get birth charts that can be used to detect patterns. This is a challenge because some of them like Idi Amin, Gadaffi or others don't have definite birth data (locations, dates). I will not use speculative charts or rectify across a 24-hour time span.

I can tell you that even though my work is not yet complete The Don rates very high on the scale of potential strong man/fascist. There's nearly been a consensus reached on both sides of the partisan divide in US politics that he is a fascist based on simple analysis of his policy statements and statements in the press regarding leaders here and abroad.

posted March 10, 2016 11:54 AM            

He lost all respect from many people.

You have to TRY not to sell your core, at any price, although the world tries to take it lol

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posted March 10, 2016 12:25 PM            

Elections are always the case of the lessor of evils or which person do you hate the least.

In this case it may be how nasty of a job needs done and just who is a crappy enough person to do it.

I don't think we need as astrology chart
study of fascists to tell us that the Donald has some fascist in him. It is obvious. It is also quite apparent that THAT is why some want him.
Sometimes the pendulum swings wildly.
Every one has been to the dance hall , now someone must pay the band.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnaxvBsyigM

posted March 10, 2016 12:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
here is an excellent read for anyone considering themselves conservative or Republican (or other) who is still considering voting for The Don:
http://thefederalist.com/2016/02/29/5-reasons-every-american-should-oppose-donald-trum p/

Starting around a year ago I began collecting birth data on dictators and fascists from around the world to get birth charts that can be used to detect patterns. This is a challenge because some of them like Idi Amin, Gadaffi or others don't have definite birth data (locations, dates). I will not use speculative charts or rectify across a 24-hour time span.

I can tell you that even though my work is not yet complete The Don rates very high on the scale of potential strong man/fascist. There's nearly been a consensus reached on both sides of the partisan divide in US politics that he is a fascist based on simple analysis of his policy statements and statements in the press regarding leaders here and abroad.

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posted March 10, 2016 12:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
here is an excellent read for anyone considering themselves conservative or Republican (or other) who is still considering voting for The Don:
http://thefederalist.com/2016/02/29/5-reasons-every-american-should-oppose-donald-trum p/

Starting around a year ago I began collecting birth data on dictators and fascists from around the world to get birth charts that can be used to detect patterns. This is a challenge because some of them like Idi Amin, Gadaffi or others don't have definite birth data (locations, dates). I will not use speculative charts or rectify across a 24-hour time span.

I can tell you that even though my work is not yet complete The Don rates very high on the scale of potential strong man/fascist. There's nearly been a consensus reached on both sides of the partisan divide in US politics that he is a fascist based on simple analysis of his policy statements and statements in the press regarding leaders here and abroad.

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I continue to be amazed by the amount of meticulous research that goes into your analysis of any chart. The end result is such a well thought out synopsis that leaves nothing out.

posted March 10, 2016 02:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Wow, the left really detests The Donald, don't they? Now you know how we feel about King Obama and his Monarchy.

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I recall people saying years ago, that the President should be supported, no matter what, to show a united country (something like that) and because of who he was (when it was Bush) - those same people didn't stand by Obama when he was elected.

I don't understand the hatred towards Obama. I do understand it towards Trump, who I can't see standing up and representing this country anywhere in the world, unless it was on another reality TV show. He could have shown some class, but he chose not to. He doesn't mind when people are physically attacked or bullied at his rallies, and he tries to get around it by saying, "If I do this, then they won't show it" when I'm sure they would. At this point, it would certainly be a newsworthy event, if he stood up to his bullying protesters, and told them to stop.

posted March 10, 2016 02:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Wow, the left really detests The Donald, don't they? Now you know how we feel about King Obama and his Monarchy.

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posted March 10, 2016 03:15 PM            

Well Rubio had not even found his core when he thought is was time or was convinced it was time for him to run. Possibly screwed up in the head forever now.

posted March 10, 2016 03:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Wow, the left really detests The Donald, don't they? Now you know how we feel about King Obama and his Monarchy.

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posted March 10, 2016 03:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Brendan34:
it's not just the left that is skeptical of Trump. Many long-time Republicans don't want him to be the future of their party. On the left, it's not only pro-Obama people who oppose Trump either.

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However there may be enough from both sides
of the isle together for Primo Don to get nomination.

posted March 10, 2016 03:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Seimei:
AmiAnne,

Well Rubio had not even found his core when he thought is was time or was convinced it was time for him to run. Possibly screwed up in the head forever now.

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YEA, he doesn't have his core, but how few of us do lol

I think back to George W. He would not stand up for what he believed and everyone hated him.

There is a life lesson in this, my Friend!

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posted March 10, 2016 05:11 PM            

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Originally posted by StubbornVirgo:
Doesn't this thread belong in the political forum? Nobody is even mentioning astrology anymore...just political debates.

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The astrology WILL RETURN.

posted March 10, 2016 05:20 PM            

Yea!

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posted March 10, 2016 05:22 PM            

Donald has an EXACT Apollo conj the ASC. I have never seen it exact before.

Apollo makes one highly favored by others.

It is a very cool asteroid

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posted March 10, 2016 05:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Seimei:
The astrology WILL RETURN.

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posted March 10, 2016 06:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Donald has an EXACT Apollo conj the ASC.

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Incorrect and irrelevant. Astrologized flattery of your favored candidate is not honest astrology.

I will be posting a summary of my surveys of the charts of documented dictators and fascists at my blog, but for now I will give you a comparison teaser. This is a list of such dictators and the number of chart factors indicating potential for authoritarianism/powermongering. The higher the number the greater the potential:

Chiang Kai-shek = 9
Ho Chi Minh = 9
B. Mussolini = 7
A. Pinochet = 6
A. Hitler = 8
F. Franco = 11
D. Trump = 13

Mao Zedong will probably also be added once I've got a rock solid chart validated.

This is not a factor-weighted rating system, as I'm currently using a simple system of simply adding up each factor associated with authoritarian tendencies (which I will list when the research is done and posted at my blog).

I will also do a comparison to duly elected presidents of the US to act as a kind of control. Through a careful comparison of the two groups I can arrive at a differential factor as a possible way of separating the two patterns. The skill it takes to get elected president and to seize control of power autocratically are very similar. But I do expect to find some possible differences.