posted July 29, 2015 01:59 PM            

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Originally posted by SoaringLeaves:
I can't believe that he has no negative aspects whatsoever! I guess when you have no internal conflict you can end up a sadist without remorse for anything.

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posted July 29, 2015 02:00 PM            

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Originally posted by bluestskies88:
Please have a look and sign petition to bring justice over the killing of Cecil here: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/821/738/351/demand-justice-for-cecil-the-lion-in-zimb ambwe/

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I already did it, BluestSkies, but thank you for posting it!

I agree with everyone here: no matter what this guy will say, he will never regret his actions.

About his Uranus conj Moon. Every month when this aspect occurs in my chart during transits, I get a little bipolar. So I'm guessing that his Leo Uranus would make him want to be known for how exceptional he is. The conjunct Leo Moon would make him angry or depressed when he isn't in the spotlight, hence pushing him harder to distinguish himself in unusual ways. Just a guess.

P.S. I just noticed something else: Nessus (24Tau25) conj. Algol (25Tau37). I think this means "losing his head in abusing others" or "going the extra mile to abuse others."

posted July 29, 2015 02:31 PM            

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Originally posted by lalalinda:
I hope Zimbabwe prosecutes him.

The worst part of this whole mess is the next head lion will probably kill all of Cecil's cubs.

Does anyone have Walter Palmer's stats?

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posted July 29, 2015 03:07 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
Great description of that Moon aspect, as possible manifestation, SoaringLeaves

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posted July 29, 2015 07:50 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
What I don't understand is, it's already been pointed out this is not actual real hunting. It's pretty much luring an animal then shooting it. Real hunting is much more difficult and dangerous.

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My GUESS is rampant insecurities. People like that would be too scared to put themselves at serious risk (and sometimes even at a risk of not catching anything and thus "not a man") so they'd rather have what I call "canned hunts" (and there are people who cater to them) where they shoot a "ferocious" beast in a cage (or similar, such as hunting wolves from a helicopter, or taking down Cecil). This way they're not too scared to risk themselves and somehow feel better that they took down such a "ferocious beast" and at some level probably think they took in some of its characteristics that they only wish they had.

Of course there's those who aren't into it for the sport but rather the kill, plain and simple. That is they don't want to test themselves or be part of nature, they just want to inflict pain, suffering, and death as an act of domination rather than one of skill and survival (and thus don't have the patience required of actual sport hunting as that's all BS to them, they just want to torment and kill for the sheer joy of it). And then there's also just plain laziness, a real hunt takes a lot of patience and care (especially if you actually follow the rules which many hunters will) but if lazy then it must be so much easier to hunt by helicopter (as happens in Alaska) or say going after a well known lion rather than hunting one in the wild.

posted July 29, 2015 09:08 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
My GUESS is rampant insecurities. People like that would be too scared to put themselves at serious risk (and sometimes even at a risk of not catching anything and thus "not a man") so they'd rather have what I call "canned hunts" (and there are people who cater to them) where they shoot a "ferocious" beast in a cage (or similar, such as hunting wolves from a helicopter, or taking down Cecil). This way they're not too scared to risk themselves and somehow feel better that they took down such a "ferocious beast" and at some level probably think they took in some of its characteristics that they only wish they had.

Of course there's those who aren't into it for the sport but rather the kill, plain and simple. That is they don't want to test themselves or be part of nature, they just want to inflict pain, suffering, and death as an act of domination rather than one of skill and survival (and thus don't have the patience required of actual sport hunting as that's all BS to them, they just want to torment and kill for the sheer joy of it). And then there's also just plain laziness, a real hunt takes a lot of patience and care (especially if you actually follow the rules which many hunters will) but if lazy then it must be so much easier to hunt by helicopter (as happens in Alaska) or say going after a well known lion rather than hunting one in the wild.

His Capricorn and Leo could make him concerned with image as well (possibly even to the point of narcissism, though that ties into what I was first saying since narcissism is actually caused by deeply buried but ever present rampant insecurities rather than true self-confidence mixed with spoiled selfishness). Granted, this makes him look terrible to people like us but if he was raised with values of "man over nature" and where hunting is seen as manly, as is standing up to those "******* " that try to hold you back, then it could still work. That is to say we would not be the people he was wanting to impress, and his actual target audience may in fact be impressed and supportive of what he did (and all that he's done).

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posted July 29, 2015 09:35 PM            

Well said, Faith. I cringe when people hunt for sport. I have no respect for it, or them, really.

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posted July 30, 2015 05:36 AM            

What I see beyond the natal chart is a man who fails to realize that he is all conscious beings, and all conscious beings are him. "I am you, and you are me." The way he treats other life forms is a reflection of the way he feels about himself at a conscious or subconscious level. I'm not trying to be an apologist on his behalf, just shedding light for the sake of understanding.

posted July 30, 2015 09:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
He is a monster. This guy is a sociopath.
I am normally against the death penalty, but I'm so close to saying that I would make an exception in his case.
I am really sickened.

I don't know if you guys remember this case - where a teenage guy (a hunter) murdered his girlfriend's parents ... I believe animal hunters are more than capable of murdering people. http://murderpedia.org/male.L/l/ludwig-david.htm

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I agree!

posted August 01, 2015 03:39 PM            

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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3182428/Cecil-s-brother -Jericho-shot-dead-poachers-Zimbabwean-park.html

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yeah lee loo, i think it's true, CNN is reporting it as well.... http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/01/world/cecil-the-lion-brother-jericho-illegally-killed/

I'm lost for words at this point!

posted August 01, 2015 03:56 PM            

Found this on FB

AUGUST 1
LAMMAS
THE FEAST OF THE FIRST FRUITS

THE LION KINGS CECIL and JERICHO ARE DEAD

BUT THERE IS HOPE THAT WALLS ARE COMING DOWN

Today is the Pagan feast of LAMMAS, the Feast of the First Fruits.
It is also the ancient Holy day of the Goddess "HOPE".

The First Fruits have been Sacrificed......

The World has been mourning the death of CECIL the LION.

And now today, August 1, 2015, Lammas,
Cecil's brother JERICHO has been killed in Africa.

CECIL means BLIND SIXTH

JERICHO means FRAGRANT MOON

The two brothers were the:
BLIND SIXTH FRAGRANT MOON

Jericho is a city located near the Jordan River in the West Bank of ISRAEL. It is an ancient city famous in the Bible as the site of the battle of JERICHO.

According to the Book of Joshua, the Battle of Jericho was the first battle of the Israelites in their conquest of Canaan. According to Joshua 6:1-27, the WALLS of JERICHO fell after Joshua's Israelite army marched around the city blowing their TRUMPets.

I am reminded of Donald TRUMP recently in the news saying he was prepared to build a WALL between the United States and Mexico.

The story of JERICHO is told in Joshua 6:1-27.

The first five books of the Hebrew Bible tell how Noah cursed Canaan to become a slave, and how God gave the land of the Canaanites to Abraham and his descendants. The children of Israel (descendants of Abraham) themselves became slaves in Egypt, but through Moses God brought them out of Egypt and to the borders of the promised land of Canaan. There Moses instructed them to seize the land by conquest, and placed them under the command of Joshua.

Joshua sent spies to Jericho, the first city of Canaan to be taken, and discovered that the land was in fear of Israel and their God. The Israelites marched around the walls once every day for six days with the priests and the Ark of the Covenant. On the seventh day they marched seven times around the walls, then the priests blew their ram's horns, the Israelites raised a great shout, and the walls of the city fell. Following God's law of herem the Israelites took no slaves or plunder but slaughtered every man, woman and child in Jericho, sparing only Rahab, a Canaanite prostitute who had sheltered the spies, and her family.

JERICHO and again became famous in the New Testament when JESUS healed several BLIND men as he passed through.

I am reminded that JERICHO is not only the site where Jesus allowed the BLIND to SEE but....

CECIL means BLIND as well and his brother is JERICHO the second murdered Lion

posted August 01, 2015 05:22 PM            

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Oxford University who monitor both lions by a GPS tracker announced that Jerishko was alive and well and was moving around the estate with another female as late as 8: 30 pm.
It's not killed, thank god.

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Phew, just saw this on Mashable as well http://mashable.com/2015/08/01/cecil-the-lion-brother-jericho/?utm_cid=mash-com-fb-main-link

posted August 01, 2015 07:03 PM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I'm still waiting for Walter Palmer to be charged for his part in poaching and I hope they start dna sampling these lions if they don't already.

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posted August 01, 2015 07:07 PM            

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Originally posted by fenia:
but the law covers him.. the best way to punish him is getting him out of work. And don't let him hunt again!

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