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Topic: What aspects give a wicked temper?
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Gabby
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posted August 11, 2015 08:25 AM
  
So I'm a very nice person in general, it typically takes forever to make me mad. But once you do.....I won't forgive you, ever!
The other thing is when you have officially p*ssed me off, I never do it, but I think the most horrible thoughts about what I want to say to that person. I emotionally want to destroy them...I have had a couple times I did say the things I wanted. Years later the ppl are still very hurt and ask if I think those things are true. Sadly, I was just pointing out the obviously worse things about them and yes they were true. But I try to soften the blow and blame it on me being mad.
I don't get where this comes from. I've learned to stop myself from saying these things and eventually the desire to cut them down fades but I'm not sure where this comes from?
I'd think it was Mars, but my gemini Mars is hardly aspected, it's only aspect is a 5 degree trine to scorpio Uranus.
I feel the desire to tell the truth about what they are must come from my saggy placements but they don't aspect my Mars?
Pluto doesn't aspect Mars. Libra Pluto on AC, only touches my saggy planets through an exact trine saggy Neptune. I don't think that would do it though....I feel like such a terrible person because I have these really dark feelings whenever I get mad.
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Gabby
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posted August 11, 2015 09:26 AM
I bet it's my Nessus conjunct Mars and trine Uranus. Such an ugly energy I hate it, just like pure evil comes out of nowhere.
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DopGang
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posted August 11, 2015 09:35 AM
How is mercury? I'm similar but obviously our charts are quite different.
Could be your fire sun with Pluto/asc.
Pluto first would of course give an Aries feel a bit and I know all too well that Aries can really lose it!LOL
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ReadingTheStars95
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posted August 11, 2015 09:37 AM
Where is Lucifer in your chart? (1930).. If you didn't already know the number.. Also.. If you think about it, having Pluto on the ascendant.. Or in the 1st house IS a bit like having a Pluto-Mars aspect.. Unless your pluto conjuncts from the 12th.. IP: Logged |
3l3n
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posted August 11, 2015 09:38 AM
I see this with a couple of people around me. They all have Mars conjuct Moon.
And another with Pluto(on Asc) sq Moon.
But it probably does have to do something with Mercury I believeIP: Logged |
bansheequeen
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posted August 11, 2015 09:54 AM
Mars-uranus might make you prone to random anger explosions. Think unpredictable anger. You dont seem angry but all of the sudden there it is. Or something doesnt normally make you mad but today it does. A 5 degree aspect is still strong if it involves a slower moving outer planet and especially if its the only aspect to an inner planet! So much stress on that one aspect.IP: Logged |
astra7
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posted August 11, 2015 10:03 AM
Moon in Aries.IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted August 11, 2015 10:07 AM
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Originally posted by DopGang:
How is mercury? I'm similar but obviously our charts are quite different.
Could be your fire sun with Pluto/asc.
Pluto first would of course give an Aries feel a bit and I know all too well that Aries can really lose it!LOL
Often for good reason in my eyes.
Ahhh....interesting! Libra Pluto opposes my aries Jupiter by 4 degrees.
Merc's conjunct Sun, trine Saturn both 0 degree
Merc/Saturn/BM Lilith make an exact grand trine. IP: Logged |
Julz87
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posted August 11, 2015 10:08 AM
Mars conjunct Pluto all that squared by Saturn. The person with these aspects is a killer (figure of speech) IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted August 11, 2015 10:19 AM
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Originally posted by ReadingTheStars95:
Where is Lucifer in your chart? (1930).. If you didn't already know the number.. Also.. If you think about it, having Pluto on the ascendant.. Or in the 1st house IS a bit like having a Pluto-Mars aspect.. Unless your pluto conjuncts from the 12th..
Pluto is on 1st house side...Pluto/AC are conjunct Sado? Lucifer leo@5(square Uranus scorp@4.44)
Saturn leo@3
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BM Lilith aries@3
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Sun saggy@5
Merc saggy@4
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Karma libra@6
AC libra@7
Pluto libra@11
Sado libra@9 Nessus cancer@2.5(conjunct Mars gemini@29.33) squares my aries BM Lilith.... IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted August 11, 2015 10:21 AM
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Originally posted by 3l3n:
I see this with a couple of people around me. They all have Mars conjuct Moon.
And another with Pluto(on Asc) sq Moon.
But it probably does have to do something with Mercury I believe
We share the Pluto/AC.
My virgo Moon is unaspected in the 12th house.... IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted August 11, 2015 10:34 AM
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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
Mars-uranus might make you prone to random anger explosions. Think unpredictable anger. You dont seem angry but all of the sudden there it is. Or something doesnt normally make you mad but today it does. A 5 degree aspect is still strong if it involves a slower moving outer planet and especially if its the only aspect to an inner planet! So much stress on that one aspect.
I'd never thought about the stress of being an only aspect. My scorp Uranus only has 2 aspects, trine Mars and square leo Saturn(1.5 degree) My temper is exactly like you said....explosive but like a flash fire. I'll be letting things go, no big deal but then that one thing happens that is just to much and i explode!
It's like a flash fire though...I'm so angry then it's gone just as quick as it came and I can barely remember why I was so angry. I need to express all that I've bottled up, ignored and kept my mouth closed about in that explosion so I can get over it, and I do immediately. But then the ppl are left hurting. I can really rip ppl up because having a saggy sun with a virgo moon you don't miss anything.
If I don't express it, my anger hangs around awhile...and I get even more angry that I can't express all the faults and esp the double standards I see in ppl because I'm trying not to hurt them. Those are the things that they use to hurt me so I should be able to tell them, right? It just infuriates me that they do it and I can't point it out without hurting them. Ugh!! IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted August 11, 2015 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by astra7:
Moon in Aries.
I've known a few, yes very bad temper! But they are not as calculated as I seem to be, they are more of a big roar, beat someone up and for them it's over. This thing in me wants to rip their insides out emotionally and expose them for all the ways they are hypocrites. Edit-It's like I want to emotionally filet them and then say, "See that's what's wrong with you! Don't you feel better now?" Maybe I've just lived with Pluto on my AC to long...that's what Pluto has done to me, so maybe I think it's ok and appropriate to do to others! Lol IP: Logged |
NYCdodger
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posted August 11, 2015 10:41 AM
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Originally posted by Gabby:
I've known a few, yes very bad temper! But they are not as calculated as I seem to be, they are more of a big roar, beat someone up and them it's over. This thing in me wants to rip their insides out emotionally and expose them for all the ways they are hypocrites.
Your moon is in Aries? Or somewhere else? Pluto is square my ASC and Opposite my Mars. Add that with Mars square my Sun in Leo and boom lol I also have Mars In Taurus trine my Uranus in Capricorn IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted August 11, 2015 10:41 AM
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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
Your moon is in Aries, or somewhere else?
I have a virgo moon in 12th, unaspected IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted August 11, 2015 10:44 AM
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Originally posted by Julz87:
Mars conjunct Pluto all that squared by Saturn. The person with these aspects is a killer (figure of speech)
I can't even imagine that stress! IP: Logged |
erickaf
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posted August 11, 2015 10:44 AM
Look at what your Moon is doing to your Mars and Mars to Uranus. My ex was the most passive, take it easy type of person you would ever meet...he had classic temperamental planets, Aries and Scorpio but make nice aspects to Uranus and Pluto... IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted August 11, 2015 10:49 AM
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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
Your moon is in Aries? Or somewhere else?Pluto is square my ASC and Opposite my Mars. Add that with Mars square my Sun in Leo and boom lol I also have Mars In Taurus trine my Uranus in Capricorn
Wow!!! My Uranus trine Mars(mar's only aspect) then my Uranus only has 2 aspects, the trine to Mars and square Saturn. That's similar to you, plus mine also are in fixed signs, scorp Uranus/leo Saturn
Aries Jupiter opposes my libra Pluto, but no aspect to Uranus/Mars/Saturn Do you kind of feel the way I do? Like it's almost scary how mean you want to be, even if you don't act it..sadly it's still there. Does your Sun square both your AC and Mars? IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted August 11, 2015 10:52 AM
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Originally posted by erickaf:
Look at what your Moon is doing to your Mars and Mars to Uranus. My ex was the most passive, take it easy type of person you would ever meet...he had classic temperamental planets, Aries and Scorpio but make nice aspects to Uranus and Pluto...
I have an unaspected Moon in 12th....
Pluto doesn't aspect Mars or Uranus, I should check to see if there is a minor aspect between these though. It does seem my temperament has a Pluto side to it. IP: Logged |
NYCdodger
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posted August 11, 2015 11:00 AM
My Libra moon calms me down a lot. With all of my stressful Mars aspects i am so THANKFUL for it. I see it as a karmic reward (even though it still squares my Saturn, Neptune and Uranus in my 12th). But I don't back down from physical altercations. When I was younger (12-14) i went through a "phase" when i was willing to fight anyone for any reason. I was a real hothead, and just brash. But then once i realized I was a lot stronger than i thought I was (in words and action) I stopped and i completely calmed down. That was a new phase in my life. I remember I said something hurtful to my mom when I was 12 and I regret it. I once dealt with a moon in Aries and i couldn't stand that guy. Always talked tough when he had an audience, but when it was just me and him one on one he was all smiles and friendly gestures. I could tell he was an easy target growing up and felt the need to make up for it lol. IP: Logged |
CosmiqPhuz
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posted August 11, 2015 11:06 AM
Moon conjunct Mars - aggression, action, drive, and war combined with emotions, inner self, and protective instinct.I remember as a kid, my mom was getting ready to slap me cause I talked back to her. I blocked her hand as it came for my face. Big mistake on my part. IP: Logged |
NYCdodger
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posted August 11, 2015 11:10 AM
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Originally posted by Gabby:
Wow!!! My Uranus trine Mars(mar's only aspect) then my Uranus only has 2 aspects, the trine to Mars and square Saturn. That's similar to you, plus mine also are in fixed signs, scorp Uranus/leo Saturn
Aries Jupiter opposes my libra Pluto, but no aspect to Uranus/Mars/Saturn Do you kind of feel the way I do? Like it's almost scary how mean you want to be, even if you don't act it..sadly it's still there. Does your Sun square both your AC and Mars?
Sun in Leo opposes my ASC in Aquarius. ASC in Aquarius squares my Pluto in Scorpio. ASC in Aqua squares my Taurus Mars. Mars in Taurus squares my Sun in Leo. Jupiter in Cancer squares my Moon in Libra. I think i have a stellium because my Venus Jupiter and Chiron are in Cancer (6th house), and they oppose my Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune in Capricorn (12th house). My moon in Libra is in the middle of both so theres a t-square there (9th house). I know how you feel Gabby. Im not a violent or angry person at all, but Im very DIRECT. To this day i feel like i gotta really observe the way i am feeling and see where its coming from. The fact that Uranus is in my 12th and Mars in my 4th (water houses) doesn't make it any easier, but it blesses me with gifts i haven't noticed before! This is why I'm glad for my moon in Libra. It really brings out the diplomat in me. IP: Logged |
NYCdodger
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posted August 11, 2015 11:11 AM
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Originally posted by CosmiqPhuz:
Moon conjunct Mars - aggression, action, drive, and war combined with emotions, inner self, and protective instinct.I remember as a kid, my mom was getting ready to slap me cause I talked back to her. I blocked her hand as it came for my face. Big mistake on my part.
Moon Quincunx Mars is crazier i heard lol IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted August 11, 2015 11:17 AM
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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
My Libra moon calms me down a lot. With all of my stressful Mars aspects i am so THANKFUL for it. I see it as a karmic reward (even though it still squares my Saturn, Neptune and Uranus in my 12th). But I don't back down from physical altercations. When I was younger (12-14) i went through a "phase" when i was willing to fight anyone for any reason. I was a real hothead, and just brash. But then once i realized I was a lot stronger than i thought I was (in words and action) I stopped and i completely calmed down. That was a new phase in my life. I remember I said something hurtful to my mom when I was 12 and I regret it. I once dealt with a moon in Aries and i couldn't stand that guy. Always talked tough when he had an audience, but when it was just me and him one on one he was all smiles and friendly gestures. I could tell he was an easy target growing up and felt the need to make up for it lol.
I never acted out or got in fights...I'm only 5'2 105lbs so everyone could beat me up!! Lol
I think my virgo moon in 12th calms me down now....I didn't find my fight until later in life....but now it scares me the things I want to say but hold back just so I don't hurt ppl. But the stuff is true! I just end up saying the same thing(the big picture) just that I want them to go away because they are weak and refuse to change to be better ppl.
I want to angrily itemize their every fault, make a list that's pointing out their every flaw and show them how it's totally destroying their lives. I hate that I see this stuff, stupid virgo moon in 12th! IP: Logged |
Gabby
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posted August 11, 2015 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by CosmiqPhuz:
Moon conjunct Mars - aggression, action, drive, and war combined with emotions, inner self, and protective instinct.I remember as a kid, my mom was getting ready to slap me cause I talked back to her. I blocked her hand as it came for my face. Big mistake on my part.
I've read about this aspect, very emotional anger....I bet mixing these two comes across very similar to Pluto. IP: Logged |
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