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Topic: Aspects of pot smokers?
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HoodBlaze Knowflake Posts: 134 From: Las Vegas, Nevada, United States Registered: Jul 2015
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posted October 27, 2015 09:22 PM
Hello knowflakes here's a question or you. I started smoking pot at 13 and I'm 22 now. I understand pots made me fail some tests, ruin some relationships and waste a lot of time/money. I've gone through periods of not smoking for a few months and coming back. I'd say right now I really do not want to be a pot smoker. These last few years I've made a living selling pot. This last year I've distanced myself from that for legal jobs. It's a process cutting those friends out and identifying as a non-stoner. Still I find myself attracted to the feeling and the lifestyle that it brings. I will spark up a few times a month even though I do not know if it's the best option for me at this point. I am wondering what aspects keep drawing people to pot specifically? Then maybe some aspects you think people with addictive tendency's have. Because weed is big now, and things like this will start popping up more. Thank you guys!
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athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 5206 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted October 27, 2015 09:29 PM
12th house and Neptune.My Ex bf does this alot.. and he also drinks. Is an escapist. He has Neptune conjunct ASC. And Sun, Mercury, Saturn, and Uranus conjunct in the 12th house. IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell Knowflake Posts: 1281 From: New York, New York, USA Registered: Nov 2014
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posted October 27, 2015 10:06 PM
I agree with 12th house and Neptune. I have a 12th house Sun, Merc, Jupiter, SN in Pisces, Neptune in Sag. When I'm living my Sun, I'm in a world and state of mind that doesn't quite mesh with this world. Sometimes if I need to go to the grocery store I just don't want to be bothered with everyone else's preoccupation with time, ego, etc. I smoke to stay in my awesome 12th house even as I walk amongst the living - "escapism" I guess. The thing is, when stuff needs to get done (in this world) you gotta set the dreams (and the good kush) aside and get ambitious- get hungry (ha ha get the munchies). There's another kind of high and that's the high you get from achievement. Set some goals, let yourself be a little materialistic. It can't always be "all good" (in the reality of realities it's all good and everything will work out, but in ""the real world"" you have to have a little less faith- lol). Sometimes you have let yourself want things and then fight for them, even be willing to draw blood for them (a major 12th house/Neptunian theme is non-attachment) The trick is to want something be willing to be attached, be willing to fight or strive for it, and then let yourself enjoy fighting. If you don't let yourself like the hustle, then you'll just say to hell with it and roll one. Sound confusing and crazy? I didn't even have to smoke to make it come out like that 😁 Look to your NN and MC for goals. IP: Logged |
Gemini30 Knowflake Posts: 364 From: Los Angeles Registered: Sep 2014
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posted October 27, 2015 11:28 PM
Yup. Neptune is heavily involved. My dad has neptune conj the asc in Scorpio with his sun and mercury in the 12th house. He smokes weed all the time. IP: Logged |
bansheequeen Knowflake Posts: 1445 From: Beachville, USA Registered: Jan 2012
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posted October 27, 2015 11:48 PM
BS on the neptune and 12th house. The biggest pot smokers Ive known arent pisces, or neptunian... but I dont know their birth times. But its too easy to just blame neptune. Neptune does play a part but it isnt the whole story. Neptune might make you want to escape but neptunian escape is not always hedonistic.(I for one prefer to escape into my fantasies and into books, art, movies and music.) Jupiter might blow up a small liking for weed into something life consuming. I know more fire sun drug or alcohol addicts/ex addicts than any other sign or element. I think there really is a physical aspect to it too. Something involving mars or the 2nd house or taurus, even aries.Also, a lot of pot smokers KNOW that they arent following the dream by smoking pot, but they just do it because it feels better than the chore of every day life. TBH that sounds more like a venus theme... But that is kind of like the creed of my generation.... Also, pot is very accessible and almost "normal" for my generation... Its almost more useful to find out what aspects make people stay away from it despite how available it is and how pressuring social situations can be invovling pot. Pot does make you dumb. And it makes you ignore your partners needs, because why listen to a nagging ***** when you can just smoke up right? And yes... the time and money. Better stop now before you waste even more. And dont even think that selling drugs is a good way to make money because I **** you not, if you dont leave the life YOU WILL GET CAUGHT EVENTUALLY. The more people you know and sell to, and knows about you, the more rats are running around. And pot smokers are really stupid about being caught. The wrong person gets caught and it can blow back to you. I know pot isnt hard like crack or heroin... but this rule still applies. Do you know the number one reason why people relapse? Its the people from their old drug life. Cold but true. You need to drop them if you truly want to stay away from drugs. IP: Logged |
angel4845 Knowflake Posts: 1873 From: los angeles, ca, USA Registered: Oct 2014
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posted October 28, 2015 12:42 AM
also jupiter hard aspects to any of the luminaries and personal planets. watch for 12th house placements and neptune.------------------ Sun Capricorn, Moon Aries, Libra Rising IP: Logged |
Wild Horses Knowflake Posts: 477 From: Registered: Jul 2012
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posted October 28, 2015 12:44 AM
quote: Originally posted by bansheequeen: Its almost more useful to find out what aspects make people stay away from it despite how available it is and how pressuring social situations can be involving pot.
I have a 12th house stellium of Sun, Venus, Mars, and Mercury, and a strong Neptune fire singleton. I've never touched the stuff. I've never smoked cigarettes, either, and have stayed away from drugs my whole life. However, I have a Virgo Moon conj. 29° Virgo Pluto, and I have a Cancer Asc., so my Virgo Moon rules my chart. I also have asteroid Psyche in Virgo and Jupiter in my 6th house. I think those things have made me place a high value on health, nutrition, and fitness, so I just never liked the thought of putting drugs into my body. So, I think a lack of Virgo or 6th house energy in a person's chart may be an indicator that a person may have no qualms about what they put into their body. Of course, I'm also an early 40's Gen X-er who grew up in the 80's with "Just Say No" drilled into my head, and tons of videos telling me that an egg frying in a pan was "my brain on drugs." I guess it stuck. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FtNm9CgA6U IP: Logged |
Sven555 Knowflake Posts: 935 From: UK Registered: Jul 2012
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posted October 28, 2015 01:18 AM
Pot smokers? I don't think you could tag them with placements or aspects. These people that do it and rant on about "how beneficial it is health wise" are full of bs. They don't realise the OTHER affects of pot, not just your health.I know a decent number of people know do it, and judging by their charts, it seems like a Scorpio/Pluto thing (desire and fixed state to try) along with Neptune (taking your higher) and perhaps soft placements (Venus and Jupiter dominant, without the gritty aspects or planets). Pleasure seeking? Yeah I wouldn't say it's just one placement that causes it. It's a blend of many. Nothing will ever beat the high of achieving proper goals or exercise. These people are missing out lol ------------------ Beginners Guide to Astrology IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 4598 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 28, 2015 02:16 AM
How about Moon and Neptune in hard aspect? That can show an addictive personality.While on the subject of pot how about alcohol? Water signs seem to have a taste for alcohol, especially the Moon and/or Mars. They're both a diversion or an escape from reality but the highs are so different. I think pot would be more of a Mercury/Jupiter type because there is a lot of creativity here if you can avoid lazy. Jupiter can be the queen of lazyland. Sven, I just checked out your web page. Wow, you've got some really interesting work there. Can't wait to spend more time there. Right on Sven. ------------------ "There ain't no revolution, only evolution, but every time I'm in Georgia I 'eat a peach' for peace." Duane Allman IP: Logged |
12muddy Knowflake Posts: 2454 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted October 28, 2015 04:06 AM
Yeah, I have the whole 12th house thing (sun, merc, venus, neptune, uranus). Lots of neppy aspects (sun/asc -neptune, moon-neptune, etc..)I was a occasional user. I was curious so I tried some and found that I liked it. Plus, around that time I moved away from the claws of my parents and I celebrated my freedom by dipping my head in a lot of things. But curiosity, yeah curiosity was the main reason. It is still the main reason behind a lot of what I do now. It was nice to have some from time to time. Quite relaxing, sometimes I used it when things got especially stressful, although I kept it under control just like I regulated my ice cream consumption lol. Didn't lead to any problem or interfere with daily life, relationship/friendship, work or school. I've never known what the fuss was all about. Some people who know about it are all like omg you smoked pots..etc... gasp and clutch their pearls. And I'm like "Er, yeah." I don't smoke pot or experiment with drugs now. I'm more or less indifferent, although I do remember those times fondly. Idk, I lost my fragile interest in it, like most things. At first it felt like I was cleaning up my act or something dramatic. But then it didn't make any changes since it didn't have a strong impact in the first place. So I was like wth and had a good laugh out of my own nutty drama. Now I have a s.o with a sht tone of virgo placements who frowns upon drug use and alcohol consumption. My "shadow" past gives him eye-twitches lol. So well, that's one huge reason to not have anything to do with it. IP: Logged |
DopGang Knowflake Posts: 1124 From: <--------- over there. Registered: Jun 2015
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posted October 28, 2015 06:11 AM
Sorry I haven't read all posts. Hey, it's 5 a.m. I have plenty of markers for it, several listed here but I won't touch the crap. I've tried it and it's not for me. I hardly even drink! 12muddy makes a good point about Virgo. Mine is 12th with my stellium. I blame that for my dislike. IP: Logged |
Yanmorg Knowflake Posts: 1174 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted October 28, 2015 07:40 AM
People often equate "illegal" with "bad" and "legal" with "good" without realizing slavery was once legal.For those of you who have such strong opinions against smoking marijuana without trying it or even doing thorough research. There have been 0 deaths DIRECTLY related to smoking marijuana unlike cigarettes. Rat poisoining is one of chemicals found in cigarettes. Cigarettes are manmade and full of chemicals. Marijuana is literally a plant that grows from the dirt. Regardless of any overblown statistics, logically, it just doesn't make any sense to have anything negative to say about smoking marijuana unless you're specifically referring to JUST the smoking aspect alone. User or not. IP: Logged |
DopGang Knowflake Posts: 1124 From: <--------- over there. Registered: Jun 2015
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posted October 28, 2015 07:46 AM
^^^ I just don't like it. I don't even need a logical reason. (Odd for a strongly Virgo person) I've tried it at least ten times and have been around it a LOT. I just don't like it and don't care to be around it. I hate being sold reasons on why it's ok. I don't like it and that's just the end of that for me. I better get out of the thread. I get fired up about this and I'm not reasonable. LOL IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell Knowflake Posts: 1281 From: New York, New York, USA Registered: Nov 2014
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posted October 28, 2015 08:02 AM
^ I know how to calm you downIP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell Knowflake Posts: 1281 From: New York, New York, USA Registered: Nov 2014
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posted October 28, 2015 08:04 AM
Interesting that Virgo has been mentioned as a placement against smoking. I'm not opposed to smoking, but as I move from my Pisces SN to my Virgo NN smoking just doesn't seem to work.IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell Knowflake Posts: 1281 From: New York, New York, USA Registered: Nov 2014
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posted October 28, 2015 08:09 AM
Also great point about the difference between smoking and drinking lalalinda. The only time I drank was when dancing wasn't fun anymore and I needed help getting up on stage. I do have Merc and Jupiter conjunct in 12, and I've always been a creative producer when I smoked. My 1st hubby, with Rasta influences, made me cook, sew, play music, or dance when we smoked. We often went on drives in the Catskills and talked and wrote together.IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 9507 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted October 28, 2015 08:10 AM
quote: Originally posted by bansheequeen: Its almost more useful to find out what aspects make people stay away from it despite how available it is and how pressuring social situations can be invovling pot.
Heh, I was thinking the same thing. I've known tons of people who smoke pot, it's nothing out of the ordinary nowadays (especially for artists/creative people, it's insane). But for the regular consumers or those who really, really enjoy it and don't want to quit, I've seen Moon/Neptune aspects, and not just the hard aspects. I definitely agree that it's about a strong Neptune/12H influence (hence the artists comment - they almost always without fail have strong Neptune influence) but of course not every person with such influences will be a pot smoker (duh). I also agree with the Fire element, however I'd add Water in there as well. Fire and Water are the more "feeling" elements, whereas Earth and Air are more grounded. As for Virgo/6H... Well, I'm with DopGang on this one. Tried it several times and didn't like it, and have no interest in it. I've also decided to quit drinking alcohol (not saying I'll never drink it again, but I'm not interested in getting drunk or even tipsy anymore). Virgo Moon + 6H stellium in Libra/Scorpio here (and 6H Sag NN).
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Wild Horses Knowflake Posts: 477 From: Registered: Jul 2012
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posted October 28, 2015 08:24 AM
quote: Originally posted by Yanmorg: People often equate "illegal" with "bad" and "legal" with "good" without realizing slavery was once legal.For those of you who have such strong opinions against smoking marijuana without trying it or even doing thorough research. There have been 0 deaths DIRECTLY related to smoking marijuana unlike cigarettes. Rat poisoining is one of chemicals found in cigarettes. Cigarettes are manmade and full of chemicals. Marijuana is literally a plant that grows from the dirt. Regardless of any overblown statistics, logically, it just doesn't make any sense to have anything negative to say about smoking marijuana unless you're specifically referring to JUST the smoking aspect alone. User or not.
I get what you're saying, and I don't judge people who choose to smoke it. I respect their freedom to make their own choice on the matter. I've got Uranus sitting right on my IC in my 4th - respect for individual freedom is at the very core of who I am. I also respect my own choices and individuality as equally as I do others, though. (Libra Uranus) Ergo, you can smoke it all you want; I'll pass. Maybe it boils down to the fact that I've just never felt the need, personally, to smoke it. I mean, I just don't have a reason to, so there's no desire or curiosity aroused for me. I have lots of other ways that I use to calm down and relax when I need to, so I just don't choose that method to relieve stress or what-have-you. I do think that strong Virgo or 6th house placements may be the biggest thing that deters people from it. Maybe strong Gemini is involved, too. Basically, I think heavy Mercury in the chart can lead people to want to keep their minds and bodies "sharp" and crystal clear at all times. I have a VERY Mercury strong chart, and I'm just used to my mind feeling razor-sharp, crisp, clear, and focused. I can't even stand to take over-the-counter cold medicine if it makes me feel even the slightest bit foggy. I can't stand having that 'medicine head' feeling. So, maybe those who like to smoke pot or do drugs lack strong Mercury in their chart. Maybe that's why it doesn't bother them for their mind to feel cloudy. Either way, it's just a personal choice. I'm not judging anyone over it. It's their choice. It's just not mine.
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DopGang Knowflake Posts: 1124 From: <--------- over there. Registered: Jun 2015
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posted October 28, 2015 08:35 AM
quote: Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell: ^ I know how to calm you down
I guess it's this. I've been around it since childhood, into adulthood. What I've witnessed (and I'm sure that I'll be told that it's not always true) is that those who smoke it, bond. Those who don't sometimes get left out in the cold and this has happened with family. For me the smokers, probably unintentionally, have put themselves in a position that you must be a smoker if you want a really close bond, trust, and love. It's almost like putting stipulations on it and that makes me resentful. For many, it's like an automatic "in" if you smoke. You know, it could be my Uranus/moon as well. If you read about it, it makes sense also. People bond over things, astrology, cars, motorcycles, etc. But this has been a different thing altogether. There's something more to it. An exclusion factor, over a "thing". We should all be accepted or not based on who we are and how we treat others and nothing more. I don't want to get detailed though. That's too exhausting. So for me, that's been my experience. IP: Logged |
12muddy Knowflake Posts: 2454 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted October 28, 2015 08:56 AM
lol it's not just don't mind. I love having a hazy mind, blurred boundaries, that's when my creativity is at its best.But that had nothing to do with smoking pot. I started out smoking pot without any reason other than curiosity. No "need", I did it because I could. And I found that I liked it. -- Overall, I find it interesting that some seem to have the idea that people who smoke pot don't have better things to do, or that the time they spend smoking pot can be better spent on other activities - "But you could have done other things", they say. Well I could, and I did. And still smoked pot. I can imagine scenarios where someone spends all of their time smoking pot and it interferes with their daily life. That is problematic. But there are people who use it and don't even get to that stage. As a result, I kinda lol at the reaction and assumption that some people have - more often than not, I find them overly dramatic. IP: Logged |
venus2tinkerbell Knowflake Posts: 1281 From: New York, New York, USA Registered: Nov 2014
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posted October 28, 2015 08:57 AM
I'll admit that I do feel I have an unspoken understanding with most smokers. There's a language and good smoking ettiquett, but the people I love the most; children, mom, dad, brother don't smoke at all.That was @ DG IP: Logged |
12muddy Knowflake Posts: 2454 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted October 28, 2015 09:01 AM
^ being excluded from family, or feeling excluded sucked big time when I was younger. In a way I get what dopgang said. My Dad didn't drink or smoke, mom doesn't touch any kind of alcohol, smoke or whatnot. But they and the extended family bond over sht that I cannot care less about, so I get the feeling. IP: Logged |
DopGang Knowflake Posts: 1124 From: <--------- over there. Registered: Jun 2015
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posted October 28, 2015 09:31 AM
quote: Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell: I'll admit that I do feel I have an unspoken understanding with most smokers. There's a language and good smoking ettiquett, but the people I love the most; children, mom, dad, brother don't smoke at all.That was @ DP
It's ok. I still like you. I'm going to jump out of the topic for real though because it's exhausting for me and we're drifting away from astrology anyway. IP: Logged |
Desiring Shadows Knowflake Posts: 2844 From: UNITED STATES, BABY Registered: Jan 2012
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posted October 28, 2015 09:47 AM
I don't see Pot as an escapist type drug. At all it doesn't make that much of an impact My medication makes it so weed doesn't affect me so I'm always the odd one out with friends I used to smoke it and pretend I was getting high lmao Those were the days lmao ANYWAYS back to the topic I think the signs that would smoke weed are th air signs. Because weed is a popular thing. Illegal but popular! And it's a social type of thing. Like drinking. I don't think the earth signs would invest in it too much u less it's for their health they wouldn't see it as practical they would know that it makes you lazy and fat and although happy I'm sure they would realize they can become this way with other forms that are free! Woo IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 7232 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted October 28, 2015 10:00 AM
Perhaps fixed placements? It's hard to say without knowing why you like the feeling and lifestyle. I did go through several months stoned almost constantly while hanging around stoners. Though it ended badly, it was fun, it's just hazy to recall. I never went back to it (as a lifestyle), however. Comparing it to other aspects of my life, I'd say I had satisfied my curiosity and thus moved on. (Though a few years ago I received some rice krispy squares made with ganja butter from a cousin who wanted opinions. As I was stuck in a hellish Texas heatwave without AC, I took them to my mom who had AC and said I'd share my pot treats if she shared her AC, and she invited me in and pulled out some cold brandy. I think that was the best time me and my mom ever had together...not that I want to repeat it, but I did enjoy the experience.) If anything, my Neptune in stellium likes having a clear mind to work with in creating my fiction (as well as other artistic endeavors). I personally don't find pot inspirational or helpful. IP: Logged | |