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Topic: What Do You Think is the Worst Aspect Someone Can Have and WHY
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Ami Anne
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posted December 31, 2015 03:57 PM
  
I was not talking about you, E!------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted December 31, 2015 04:10 PM
You are most welcome, Athenia!------------------
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charlie
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posted December 31, 2015 04:53 PM
I personally have Pluto sq Sun, Moon, Mercury. Moon opp. Sun, Saturn, Venus, Mercury. Venus conj Saturn but the worst for me is Uranus. Some days I just cannot deal with my brain :-/ It tears me apart and no one understands except for perhaps members on LL. I also know someone very close with Dejanira conjunct Moon and I doubt he's been sexually (physically) abused but he has mentioned SO many instances where, especially women, have behaved in disgusting ways towards him when he was very young. It makes me cry for him. IP: Logged |
Astra
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posted December 31, 2015 07:04 PM
I have moon square pluto, and I haven't found it to be problematic. My relationship with my mom has been very positive. It's my relationship with my father that's screwed up.The toughest aspect I have in my chart is venus opposite pluto. I attract stalkers and my life is filled with danger. IP: Logged |
Elysia
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posted January 01, 2016 09:23 AM
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Elysia
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posted January 01, 2016 09:27 AM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I was not talking about you, E!
Hehe.. Okay, cool  IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted January 01, 2016 10:18 AM
Yea, E, in general, I have people fight me that Nessus is not abuse but some exalted wonderful thing.  ------------------
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missblyss
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posted January 01, 2016 01:29 PM
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Originally posted by Astra:
I have moon square pluto, and I haven't found it to be problematic. My relationship with my mom has been very positive. It's my relationship with my father that's screwed up.The toughest aspect I have in my chart is venus opposite pluto. I attract stalkers and my life is filled with danger.
I am so happy to hear this, because my daughter has this aspect! IP: Logged |
Belage
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From: USA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 01, 2016 02:10 PM
I think Saturn square Jupiter or Saturn square Neptune are both of the worst aspects to have. Saturn square to those planets will indicate lifelong struggle with finding the joy of life. Saturn in the 8th house is a mofo. Nodes squaring personal planets like the sun or Venus. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted January 01, 2016 02:18 PM
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Originally posted by Belage:
I think Saturn square Jupiter or Saturn square Neptune are both of the worst aspects to have. Saturn square to those planets will indicate lifelong struggle with finding the joy of life. Saturn in the 8th house is a mofo. Nodes squaring personal planets like the sun or Venus.
GREAT comment, Belage. Thank you! ------------------
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VirgoAquaSag
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posted January 01, 2016 02:59 PM
I'm suppose to have all these AWFUL aspects but honestly, it's not so bad.I have...
Moon square Pluto
Venus square Pluto
Mars square Saturn
Sun square Saturn..goes on! Sure, my life is not the easiest compared to my friends. But it does not make me feel defeated. In fact, I feel even more motivated to make life better for me and others. There are definitely more hurdles for me to jump over but doesn't mean I can't get to the finish line either.
I'm honestly living a good life and I appreciate everything that I have 
Also, I have some really good aspects like Sun trine Jupiter, Moon trine Jupiter, Sun trine Moon, etc.. to kind of help me ease with hard aspects.
I think a good chart means, there is a good balance. If one only has the positive aspects, there won't be motivation to be better. If one only has negative aspects, there won't be much hope. Balanced positive/negative chart is best chart in my opinion. IP: Logged |
Condoowit
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posted January 01, 2016 10:28 PM
A lot of aspects mentioned so far sound like they would inflict great personal pain. I'd like to add another- Mars conjunct Uranus. I know someone who is sitting in jail for many many years due to the effects of this aspect on his behavior. I have done lots of research on this man and have spoken to numerous people in his life.... Family, coworkers, college professors. Everyone had glowing praise for him in general... He was friendly, kind to animals, a good egg, intelligent. But as I dug deeper I understood that certain people had had the misfortune to be in his path when he would lose his temper, and from those individuals I heard some hair raising accounts. After having spoken with two of his siblings and hearing about what he would do to them "out of the blue " when they were all innocently playing as kids, I understand that no matter how nice a person he was at his core, he would explode unexpectedly--with absolutely no warning-- and was capable of being brutally cruel - scary. Unfortunately he was able to legally own a handgun, and so in his adult life he took certain situations to a level where they never should have gone, all because of that unpredictable temper. He has therefore messed up his own life and that of his wife and kids. Pretty bleak. I have a temper myself, but nothing like that and I am so thankful for that.IP: Logged |
Elysia
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posted January 02, 2016 01:38 AM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Yea, E, in general, I have people fight me that Nessus is not abuse but some exalted wonderful thing.
Hmm... And I do believe in the yin-yang-ness of things, that theory explains a lot. Just like to try out different concepts until I'm sure I have one that cuts to the very core... IP: Logged |
Elysia
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posted January 02, 2016 02:35 AM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I have so much respect for people who speak more than one language. I have struggled to be fluent in Spanish for 7 years and I can get my basic points across but I sound like a moron 
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TensionEmpire
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Registered: Sep 2014
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posted January 02, 2016 09:42 AM
I have Mars, Venus and Jupiter squaring pluto.
I looked at Lucifer, it cnj, my Mars by 1 degree, omg!IP: Logged |
Faith
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From: Bella's Hair Salon
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posted January 02, 2016 12:10 PM
Has anyone mentioned Pisces moon yet?I find this one difficult. Sometimes, often, I will look at someone or read something and catch a mood that overwhelms me and is hard to shake off. Sometimes a feeling comes out of nowhere and swamps me. It's almost like having an immune disorder...low immunity against others' energy. My moon square Neptune and Mars. Hard to see which way is up and move in that direction. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted January 02, 2016 12:54 PM
Thank you, E. I am excited to check it out.------------------
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Elysia
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posted January 02, 2016 01:07 PM
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Originally posted by Faith:
Has anyone mentioned Pisces moon yet?I find this one difficult. Sometimes, often, I will look at someone or read something and catch a mood that overwhelms me and is hard to shake off. Sometimes a feeling comes out of nowhere and swamps me. It's almost like having an immune disorder...low immunity against others' energy. My moon square Neptune and Mars. Hard to see which way is up and move in that direction.
I have moon in the 12th, not quite the same thing - but I can relate to the feeling of being an emotional sponge of sorts. IP: Logged |
LittleBlackCat
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posted January 02, 2016 10:01 PM
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Originally posted by Bekzilla:
Can you explain? Do people see you as being ineffective or something, or do your actions get misunderstood a lot? I have Rx Mars, but not aspecting my Asc or Sun, thank god. That must be quite rough. 
Hi Bekzilla. Mars Rx opposite my Asc makes other feel "war-like" towards me but not in an outwardly aggressive / confrontational way like Mars Direct opposite Asc. It is strong tension and internalized confrontation. I am often disliked on sight because I seem like the enemy to others. This is b/c my Mars energy is so foreign (since it is Rx) and felt immediately (since it's on my Asc). Their Mars will feel I am an enemy soldier who operates too differently.Imagine a group of soldiers dressed in green who suddenly meet one dressed in black. The green soldiers will become on guard. So I spend my life with people targeting me for no reason and it sometimes leads to physical fights. Which sucks because Mars Rx is not good at fighting. We either can't express aggression well or we go overboard and really harm people but never anything appropriate or "normal". The other problems caused with Mars Rx opposite my Asc are the types of interactions and life events I go through. They are often slow progressing or otherwise "backwards" in nature somehow. Here is an example: Normally children wear braces for 2-3 years and move on to retainers (in which afterwards its all over with). I went in for braces, came out with four teeth extracted, wore braces for 4 years more than the 2 initially intended (so 6 yrs). Wore retainers for a year. When I took them off my teeth would not stay straight and became severely crooked. Had to get repeated thorough examinations in which I was told the 4 teeth extractions were accidental and not necessary. Then the only options become surgery to drill 4 teeth back into my mouth and wear braces ALL. OVER. AGAIN. And that is just one example. I have plenty of equally disturbing/horrifically messed up situations b/c EVERYTHING in my life progresses in the same fashion. Relationships, health, work, relocation, etc. because I have Mars Rx affecting my interaction with the world and all the people/situations one faces while in it. I have to go through loops and loops and circles to get to the same destination that takes others no time at all. Mars Rx opp. my Sun makes the ego unorthodox/unusual and hard to realize. I see the world as ineffective and I also see myself as ineffective (though I don't believe others feel I am). I am misunderstood constantly. I often do not express any energy effectively. I laugh when I should be serious, I'm serious when I should laugh, I may sound monotone and unbothered when depressed and depressed and sad when I am unbothered. Everything is backwards, inversed, and weird. It's truly awful to have. Mars Rx in hard aspect to the Asc / Sun does not remain in the emotional realm at all. That I could handle easily. It is very physical and difficult b/c both Mars and the Asc relate to action and physical things. All of this is to a Scorpio Asc by the way...which is no cake walk on it's own to begin with. IP: Logged |
Elysia
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posted January 04, 2016 02:41 PM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Yea, E, in general, I have people fight me that Nessus is not abuse but some exalted wonderful thing.
Ami, How do you view the combinations in synastry? The same principles? Or are the aspects treated differently? For instance, (the man's) Nessus square (the woman's) Sun and (the man's) Nessus square (the woman's) Dejanira. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted January 04, 2016 02:51 PM
Well. E, Nessus is Nessus, no matter the sex of the person and it is ACTIVE/YANG. Dejanira is PASSIVE/YIN, no matter the sex. A man could abuse a woman i.e his Nessus conj her Moon. A woman could do it to a man.------------------
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Belage
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posted January 04, 2016 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by Faith:
Has anyone mentioned Pisces moon yet?I find this one difficult. Sometimes, often, I will look at someone or read something and catch a mood that overwhelms me and is hard to shake off. Sometimes a feeling comes out of nowhere and swamps me. It's almost like having an immune disorder...low immunity against others' energy. My moon square Neptune and Mars. Hard to see which way is up and move in that direction.
Oh nooo! Pisces moon is a beautiful moon to have, and Ithe world needs more Pisces moon people. They are the ones that will rescue animals and those creatures or people no one cares about. Now, having hard natal aspects to a Pisces moon can be very difficult. In your case, the squares by Neptune and Mars must be awful. IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted January 04, 2016 07:02 PM
Thanks Belage.IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted January 04, 2016 07:04 PM
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Originally posted by Elysia:
I have moon in the 12th, not quite the same thing - but I can relate to the feeling of being an emotional sponge of sorts.
It's honestly difficult sometimes, isn't it? I'm not surprised that you have this. IP: Logged |
Elysia
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posted January 05, 2016 10:09 AM
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Originally posted by Faith:
It's honestly difficult sometimes, isn't it?I'm not surprised that you have this.
Aah, what gives me away? And yes, plenty difficult. Maybe there should be a hat with special powers to protect us from vibrations all around (when we need some downtime)? IP: Logged |
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