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Topic: What Do You Think is the Worst Aspect Someone Can Have and WHY
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Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted December 30, 2015 01:19 PM
  
I ask you to answer why when you answer because if not, we can't learn.My answer is Dejanira conjunct the Moon, exact. I have seen sexual abuse in all cases I have seen and a fragmentation of the personality, through no fault of the person, of course. If the degrees go out to 1, 2, or 3, the effect is lessened, but still there, ime ------------------
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athenegoddess
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posted December 30, 2015 01:25 PM
I think Moon square Pluto and Venus square Pluto. Mars square Pluto. Pretty much anything square Pluto.Because it is indicative of very negative experiences. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted December 30, 2015 01:28 PM
Can you elaborate, A. Give examples, even if you don't include yourself, like a case study you made up lol------------------
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athenegoddess
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posted December 30, 2015 01:34 PM
Moon square Pluto - Mother who is abusive. Pretty much ruins your emotional intelligence. Could have experienced the death of a mother which hurt them.Venus square Pluto - People who would be brought to kill because of a love relationship. Immaturity in love relationships. Experiencing death of loved one. Mars square Pluto: This person has to be careful around machinery or doing anything like driving or working. It is a very dangerous aspect. Explosive. Can become abusive. And personally I find Lucifer in hard aspect to personal planets really awful. It means the person has capacity to be lured into the dark side. The person finds reason to do so. IP: Logged |
Federal_Reserve
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Registered: Oct 2015
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posted December 30, 2015 01:35 PM
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
I think Moon square Pluto and Venus square Pluto. Mars square Pluto. Pretty much anything square Pluto.Because it is indicative of very negative experiences.
I have Sun (Pisces) square Pluto (Scorpio) and Saturn (Aquarius) square Pluto (Scorpio). I don't know what it means or does. IP: Logged |
athenegoddess
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posted December 30, 2015 01:37 PM
Sun isn't square Pluto if its in Pisces.
Saturn square Pluto is bad but not as bad if it isn't aspecting personal planets. So it would be an event in your life but not an everyday thing.
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Faith
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From: Bella's Hair Salon
Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 30, 2015 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Sun isn't square Pluto if its in Pisces.
Depends on where the planets fall within the sign. IP: Logged |
Federal_Reserve
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Registered: Oct 2015
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posted December 30, 2015 01:45 PM
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Sun isn't square Pluto if its in Pisces.
Saturn square Pluto is bad but not as bad if it isn't aspecting personal planets. So it would be an event in your life but not an everyday thing.
How is it bad & what is the effect ?
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Violets
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posted December 30, 2015 01:51 PM
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Sun isn't square Pluto if its in Pisces.
It can be. If it's at a late degree of Pisces, and an early degree of Scorpio. IP: Logged |
Gemini Blues
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From: The future... or the past. I get them confused...
Registered: May 2014
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posted December 30, 2015 01:53 PM
I have Mercury square Pluto (4° orb). Can't say I can pick out anything in particular about it. But then again, I also have Mercury square Uranus 1° and Mercury square Saturn 2° for the T square. T squares are far easier that a pure square because they give an outlet.I know a Pluto Moon square and its rough on her. Her emotions don't just go to 11, they're stuck on 11. IP: Logged |
athenegoddess
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posted December 30, 2015 01:53 PM
I don't count out of sign aspects. Some astrologers do but not me.
FR, what house axis does the square fall?
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socialgraffiti
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posted December 30, 2015 01:55 PM
Mars square Saturn.Mars and Saturn are enemy planets in traditional astrology. This is why it is considered one of the most difficult aspects in synastry. In the natal, it causes anger repression and self-defeat. IP: Logged |
Faith
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From: Bella's Hair Salon
Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 30, 2015 01:58 PM
This is more confusing for me than it should be  So let me work it out... quote:
Originally posted by Violets:
It can be.If it's at a late degree of Pisces, and an early degree of Scorpio.
Pisces 29 near 0 Aries
Scorpio 1 That's quincunx. So it must be, late degree of Scorpio (near Sag) and early degree of Pisces. 29 Scorpio, near 0 Sag
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Ami Anne
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posted December 30, 2015 02:00 PM
Welcome Federal Reserve. What a cute name ------------------
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Faith
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From: Bella's Hair Salon
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posted December 30, 2015 02:00 PM
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Originally posted by socialgraffiti:
Mars square Saturn.Mars and Saturn are enemy planets in traditional astrology. This is why it is considered one of the most difficult aspects in synastry. In the natal, it causes anger repression and self-defeat.
My Saturn semisquare Mars is grateful for your condolences.  IP: Logged |
Faith
Knowflake Posts: 21731
From: Bella's Hair Salon
Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 30, 2015 02:02 PM
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Originally posted by Gemini Blues:
T squares are far easier that a pure square because they give an outlet.
I agree. Easier to stay balanced on a tricycle than a bike....not that I ride tricycles but you know what I mean. I have sun square Pluto, with the tension offset and eased by Jupiter forming a t-square with them. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 30, 2015 02:04 PM
Are you guys talking about T square vs Grand cross. I have been seeing a lot of T squares with my clients, lately. The chart I am doing now has one------------------
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socialgraffiti
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posted December 30, 2015 02:07 PM
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Originally posted by Faith:
My Saturn semisquare Mars is grateful for your condolences.
It does create a great deal of endurance. If you can overcome the aspect, you can probably overcome anything. IP: Logged |
Faith
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From: Bella's Hair Salon
Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 30, 2015 02:17 PM
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Originally posted by socialgraffiti:
It does create a great deal of endurance. If you can overcome the aspect, you can probably overcome anything.
Yeah but....I can't.  Just kidding... Edit: I agree but see my Mars-Saturn easy aspect friends sailing through life clearing one hurdle after another like it's simple. Things don't feel easy to me, usually, even when they are. My mind imagines things being hard, fraught with accidents, set-backs, negative consequences. IP: Logged |
Elysia
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posted December 30, 2015 02:17 PM
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Originally posted by socialgraffiti:
Mars square Saturn.Mars and Saturn are enemy planets in traditional astrology. This is why it is considered one of the most difficult aspects in synastry. In the natal, it causes anger repression and self-defeat.
That explains a lot! I have this too, pretty tight. IP: Logged |
Elysia
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posted December 30, 2015 02:22 PM
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Originally posted by Faith:
My Saturn semisquare Mars is grateful for your condolences.
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Spongebob
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posted December 30, 2015 02:27 PM
quote:
Originally posted by socialgraffiti:
Mars square Saturn.Mars and Saturn are enemy planets in traditional astrology. This is why it is considered one of the most difficult aspects in synastry. In the natal, it causes anger repression and self-defeat.
This is kinda fatalistic. The people who wind up doing the most in life tend to have the worst charts, or charts with "scary" aspects like this one. I have this square and on a regular basis i manage to accomplish things other people just cant do. Im stronger than most people emotionally, also. This aspect is a gift. IP: Logged |
Elysia
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posted December 30, 2015 02:35 PM
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Originally posted by Spongebob:
This is kinda fatalistic. The people who wind up doing the most in life tend to have the worst charts, or charts with "scary" aspects like this one. I have this square and on a regular basis i manage to accomplish things other people just cant do. Im stronger than most people emotionally, also. This aspect is a gift.
 Yes. If you learn the Saturnian lessons, you can reap the benefits of your Mars like no other. IP: Logged |
Spongebob
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posted December 30, 2015 02:37 PM
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Originally posted by Elysia:
Yes. If you learn the Saturnian lessons, you can reap the benefits of your Mars like no other.
I wouldn't even take it that far. Actually the aspect means that you'll,face a lot of barriers when it come to your ambitions (Mars) but as long as you persist on and don't give up, you'll do fine. Self-destruction is more of a 12th house/Neptune issue. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 30, 2015 03:06 PM
People can add second or third ones, but please explain why, so we can learn. Thanks------------------
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