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teasel
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posted December 30, 2015 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lundan:
That's a perfect way to put it.

I always see these crap topics about what makes someone attractive. It's sad that some of you guys use astrology for self esteem lol.
It's the same reason why you can't guess someones rising sign by their picture.
edit: people would guess im a cancer rising by my features but if you were to actually meet me, you would not think that I was nurturing or a girl next door type. You would think aggressive and someone not to be messed with.


Actually, I haven't found Cancerian personal planets to be all soft and nurturing, and those I know would admit that - they laugh about it.

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posted December 30, 2015 11:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Right, but if you didn't know me and you saw how soft my features were you would think I was a cancer rising is what I am saying.
And the reason why you haven't found cancerian placements soft is because you, like many people, haven't gotten close enough to us. Of course I would never admit I'm soft and sweet lol

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Actually, I haven't found Cancerian personal planets to be all soft and nurturing, and those I know would admit that - they laugh about it.

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posted December 30, 2015 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Violets:
Oh. Duh.
I just remembered that my husband has Venus in H8 also, lol.

Funny that he and his mom both share the same placement, and both in Leo.

Yes, he is a very attractive man, and women are still attracted to him, even though he carries some weight now and is 44 years old.

He also has Venus conjunct Sun, but yes very magnetic.


I forget about placements people close to me have, too. I need to borrow a printer and print their charts off, so that I can keep them handy.


My mother might have Venus in the 8th, in Scorpio, and men have always loved her. She's always been popular, as well.
I was popular up until a certain age, but I've noticed I can be equally repelling at times... and I have felt utterly invisible at times in my life, as well. There were times when that was intentional, though.

lundan: I don't see anyone trying to boost their self-esteem via astrology here. I would also think that Violets knows her husband, and how people respond to him, better than you might.

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posted December 30, 2015 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lundan:
Right, but if you didn't know me and you saw how soft my features were you would think I was a cancer rising is what I am saying.
And the reason why you haven't found cancerian placements soft is because you, like many people, haven't gotten close enough to us. Of course I would never admit I'm soft and sweet lol


You have no idea how close I am to them. Why do you always make the negative assumption?

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posted December 30, 2015 11:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
if you think the 8th house shows physical beauty then you need to revisit what the houses mean darling
I was saying that I would not find him attractive because I am disgusted by extra fat because beauty is subjective.
edit: its the same reason why I don't find liz taylor beautiful even though majority of people do, she looks like my aunt and many of the people from my country of origin have her features

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Originally posted by teasel:
I forget about placements people close to me have, too. I need to borrow a printer and print their charts off, so that I can keep them handy.


My mother might have Venus in the 8th, in Scorpio, and men have always loved her. She's always been popular, as well.
I was popular up until a certain age, but I've noticed I can be equally repelling at times... and I have felt utterly invisible at times in my life, as well. There were times when that was intentional, though.

[b]lundan: I don't see anyone trying to boost their self-esteem via astrology here. I would also think that Violets knows her husband, and how people respond to him, better than you might. [/B]


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posted December 30, 2015 11:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im telling you why people with cancer placements are viewed as tough (remember hard shell) but those who get close enough see the soft inside. That's an astrological fact.
THEREFOR you aren't close to them, what's the problem with that?

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You have no idea how close I am to them. Why do you always make the negative assumption?

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posted December 30, 2015 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lundan:
Im telling you why people with cancer placements are viewed as tough (remember hard shell) but those who get close enough see the soft inside. That's an astrological fact.
THEREFOR you aren't close to them, what's the problem with that?


I didn't say they weren't kind at all - but they're tougher than I am when it comes to certain things. I definitely see the hard shell.

I was just telling you that you don't know how close I am to them. There's nothing wrong with that, either. You just decided that they hadn't let me close to them, at all.

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posted December 30, 2015 11:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not going to entertain your need to argue.
As someone with a venus, moon, and mars in cancer, I too laugh at the thought of me being nurturing to people who consider themselves my friends because thats not the image I want to uphold
and your right, I dont know for a fact how close you are to them now stop your whining god are you a pisces

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Originally posted by teasel:
I didn't say they weren't kind at all - but they're tougher than I am when it comes to certain things. I definitely see the hard shell.

I was just telling you that you don't know how close I am to them. There's nothing wrong with that, either. You just decided that they hadn't let me close to them, at all.


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posted December 30, 2015 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lundan:
I'm not going to entertain your need to argue.
As someone with a venus, moon, and mars in cancer, I too laugh at the thought of me being nurturing to people who consider themselves my friends because thats not the image I want to uphold
and your right, I dont know for a fact how close you are to them now stop your whining god are you a pisces


You're ridiculous.
Right now you're an insult to astrology.

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posted December 30, 2015 11:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
why? because I know the 8th house doesn't determine beauty? "insult to astrology" what the hell does that even mean
edit: okay im sorry for calling pisces whiny its just that all the ones I've met have been

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You're ridiculous.
Right now you're an insult to astrology.

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posted December 30, 2015 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lundan:
why? because I know the 8th house doesn't determine beauty? "insult to astrology" what the hell does that even mean
edit: okay im sorry for calling pisces whiny its just that all the ones I've met have been


Figure it out.
I'm out.

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posted December 30, 2015 11:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
guess its not important
I don't appreciate your shallow statements

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Figure it out.
I'm out.

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posted December 31, 2015 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bananaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
YES, you can see physical beauty in the chart.

When I first came on, IQ did a chart of a girl and said she was an amazing beauty

We happened to become friends and she sent me her pic and she looked like a Gap model, like perfect lol

I can't remember what he saw because I was a newbie but you can see beauty in the natal chart


Someone once told me if Venus aspects the chart ruler, you will be able to see beauty (as long as it's not in detriment by another factor in the chart). Not sure if it's true, but I see it in the charts of many celebrities who are considered beautiful.

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posted December 31, 2015 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bananaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lundan:
Im telling you why people with cancer placements are viewed as tough (remember hard shell) but those who get close enough see the soft inside. That's an astrological fact.
THEREFOR you aren't close to them, what's the problem with that?


There are no "astrological facts". It's all a matter of interpretation and symbolism. You're coming off as super harsh and judgmental... what does any of this have to do with self-esteem? And why bash Pisces at the same time? We're all here to learn. Yes, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but you can't deny certain energies give the natives certain qualities. Pluto on the ASC will have an entirely different essence than Neptune or Mars for example. No matter how attractive that person is, the qualities will be there, and usually noticeable both in personality and physical traits.

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posted December 31, 2015 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bananaz:
There are no "astrological facts". It's all a matter of interpretation and symbolism. You're coming off as super harsh and judgmental... what does any of this have to do with self-esteem? And why bash Pisces at the same time? We're all here to learn.

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posted December 31, 2015 12:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PaulMcFly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lundan:
I'm not going to entertain your need to argue.
As someone with a venus, moon, and mars in cancer, I too laugh at the thought of me being nurturing to people who consider themselves my friends because thats not the image I want to uphold
and your right, I dont know for a fact how close you are to them now stop your whining god are you a pisces


You're a dickhead, you seemed cool at first but now you're just being a 19 year old self righteous **** . And guess what? You know what sign is known for whining?

Cancer.


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posted December 31, 2015 01:07 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Don't use anti gay slurs

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Originally posted by PaulMcFly:
You're a dickhead, you seemed cool at first but now you're just being a 19 year old self righteous **** . And guess what? You know what sign is known for whining?

Cancer.


faggot


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posted December 31, 2015 01:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I'm not a cancer lol I'm a leo

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Originally posted by PaulMcFly:
You're a dickhead, you seemed cool at first but now you're just being a 19 year old self righteous **** . And guess what? You know what sign is known for whining?

Cancer.


faggot


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posted December 31, 2015 07:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VirgoPILL     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my venus is conj mars in 8th H in leo
(+ trine nep, sextile plu)

i'm as plain as can be. in my experience men don't see attractive features in me just SEX. my best friend said i have a horny face in general. so yeah it is what it is.

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posted December 31, 2015 09:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't know about physical features, but they sure as hell have some pull. Although, I might add, any venus with a Plutonic flavour would have this.

There are a few people I've met with this placement, whom one would not call *objectively* attractive, but they had a certain personal magnetism.

To put it crudely, if you saw a picture of them, your reaction might be 'Meh'. But if you met them in person, you'd feel drawn and, 'attracted' to them.

So, I think, regardless of their outward appearance (i.e. conventional physical 'beauty' or lack thereof), they are attractive. Yes, those are different things.

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posted December 31, 2015 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lundan:
I have this and people tell me I'm beautiful lol
But thats because I look like my dad and he's attractive
Not because of where my Venus is placed lool

Im confused again -- if your Asc is Aries, isn't your Moon/Venus/Mars in Cancer in the 3rd/4th house?

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posted December 31, 2015 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about Venus in Pisces in the 8th house?

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posted December 31, 2015 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sikanda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does it work the same way if you have Venus conjunct Pluto?

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posted December 31, 2015 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elysia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus in Pisces in the 8th.. Umm, the mysterious mermaid appeal?

ChildofVenus & Sikanda,

IMO, yes. It's about the Plutonian flavour. So, a Plutonian venus can be a venus in Scorpio, Pluto-aspected venus, or Venus in the 8th, ruler of the 8th - such aspects.

What this brings is a hidden allure. People may not be able to pinpoint what they find attractive about such people, but they will be attracted nonetheless.

Same principle applies to other planets. For instance, Plutonic sun = personal magnetism, plutonic moon =emotional intensity & magnetism and so on. Since Venus is the planet of aesthetics and what we find attractive, plutonic venus = magnetically attractive.

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posted December 31, 2015 11:25 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lmao a horny face


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Originally posted by VirgoPILL:
my venus is conj mars in 8th H in leo
(+ trine nep, sextile plu)

i'm as plain as can be. in my experience men don't see attractive features in me just SEX. my best friend said i have a horny face in general. so yeah it is what it is.


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