posted January 25, 2016 08:06 PM            

I've mostly read about the ascendant representing what we show to the world, or how we come across before people really get to know us, or the way that we are in childhood.

But the ascendant really does seem to go deeper than that, in my observations.

I still feel the qualities of my Leo Asc, my husband still demonstrates the characteristics of his Sag Asc, and my mom still acts like her Scorpio Asc often enough.

posted January 25, 2016 08:43 PM            

A person is complex, multifaceted. The ascendant is one of the sides that are most visible to others (??)

posted January 25, 2016 08:51 PM            

I am a Libra ASC and I always want to do win/win.

I like to make things have harmony.

I act refined, I think, and look that way, but down deep I am a crazy nut( Gemini stellium) but this won't show unless you know me.

Casual people see the ASCs of others.

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posted January 25, 2016 09:24 PM            

mmmmm

posted January 25, 2016 09:28 PM            

Me and my mom both have Leo ASC (same decan, even), and both of us have come off as feline in our walk. She's got more the catwalk walk while I have more of a stealthy walk, however. Both of us also have an unusually thick mane of hair.

But is there anything more to it?

We both seem to draw attention, even stealthy me, and some want to knock us down a peg because of that. Mom puts out a lot more of that energy (and uses it ruthlessly) which may be due to her 1H Leo Mars amplifying (and exploiting) it.

We both have a naturally thick mane of hair, but we deal with it differently. She spends a lot of time on hers (she's been described as coming off like a Persian longhair cat) which may be her dominant Scorpio and Leo placements, whereas I find it a bother (to the point I used to keep my hair really short) which is probably my Sag placements that don't want to be bothered with it.

Mom and I also pay attention to how we dress, though this shouldn't be seen as looking to a fashion magazine to tell us how to look. She and I both have a cynicism toward the fashion industry and both of us are more likely to view it with a critical eye. But that doesn't mean a lack of interest in fashion, just not in being jerked around for someone else's profits or needing someone else to tell us how to dress. There are basics to know, but beyond that we'll both figure out what's best for us, not some magazine (though when my mom was a kid, she imitated the models in magazines as she wanted to be one, and was, for awhile, and holy crap, she has some horror stories of her model days that makes me wonder why any would want to be one).

But it should be noted that my mom and I also don't see eye to eye on what's best, and we'll criticize each other's fashions as much as the fashion magazines. Part of the reason may be she has a lot more fixed energy in her chart than I do while I have a lot of mutable and creative 5H Sag along with a strong Libra influence that helps me to harmonize with others (and an increase emphasis on harmony also makes me less gaudy than Mom, generally speaking--some teenage styles of mine, which were when my 5H Sag Mars-Uranus could have some fun before I had to worry about how I was going to support myself, not withstanding). So if I hang with the goths then I'll look like one, when I visit family in rural East Texas, I'll blend right in there as well, and so on. I'll still be inclined to stand out, mind you, but I won't look out of place.

For the same reason (perhaps), my mom is much more likely to attempt to dominate others while I'm much more easygoing (though I won't be dominated). I do seem to get some followers (or fellow travelers) without even trying, however.

posted January 25, 2016 09:48 PM            

We both have kind of weird relationships with our families, but I think that we're both sort of Leo-ish regarding our families, maybe?

Like I don't really care for my family much, I don't agree with anything they say whatsoever (I do have Pluto in H3), but...I'm strangely nostalgic about my family and homeland, and strangely dedicated to my family, as much as I would like to tell them to take a hike a lot of the time.

I also have super thick, curly/wavy hair, and it's frustrating.

I either keep it very short or fairly long, and never take much time with it.

posted January 25, 2016 09:55 PM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:
I really don't like socializing with strangers or even pretending. I DO like to have good hygiene, nice clothes that "go together", etc.

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This made me laugh for some reason.

posted January 25, 2016 09:59 PM            

I could go to the same club every Saturday and still be shy as hell. The Leo in me wants to social and liked but the Scorpio is like being fake gets you nowhere Lol.

posted January 25, 2016 10:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Violets:
This made me laugh for some reason.

Basically "I really don't like talking to people, but at the same time, I don't like to smell bad".

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posted January 25, 2016 10:16 PM            

I'm a Leo rising as well. I laugh (okay, it's more of a giggle) a lot and I am usually quite optimistic. Sure my Pisces sun and moon in my 8th house is interested in deep and psychoanalytical subject matters.. but I view the world with such light.. almost in a naive fashion. One of my favorite quotes is by Anne Frank who said, "In spite of everything I still believe that people are really good at heart."

posted January 25, 2016 10:16 PM            

The Asc sign is the general modus operandi, the basic orientation towards life and the way in which you deal with others.

It is also the physical structure that brings together the basic energies represented by the luminaries (Sun, Moon) in your chart. It is the soul embodied in human form.

posted January 25, 2016 10:26 PM            

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Originally posted by polkadotstars:
I read somewhere that an ascendant is more how you see the world through your own eyes. It is how we first saw it right when we came out of the womb.

I'm a Leo rising as well. I laugh (okay, it's more of a giggle) a lot and I am usually quite optimistic. Sure my Pisces sun and moon in my 8th house is interested in deep and psychoanalytical subject matters.. but I view the world with such light.. almost in a naive fashion. One of my favorite quotes is by Anne Frank who said, "In spite of everything I still believe that people are really good at heart."

It is with this notion, of how we look at the world with our own eyes, that others see us.

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Lol. My Pisces Sun/Leo Asc has nothing in common with yours!

posted January 25, 2016 11:27 PM            

And our family can be dysfunctional at times, even violent (to the point that some I know are scared of them and don't want me to have anything to do with them), though not mortally so. As an adult I've been menaced, and once even physically attacked (with threats of more following on the phone and I pretty much joked it off), but I was never fearful for my life and limb because it just never goes that far. Furthermore, they circled the wagons against anyone outside the family threatening kin--my mom and dad were ironically the least likely to do so on my behalf--so that even if say my uncle slapped me hard and scolded me for something, if someone outside the family were to do the same he'd do a lot worse to them, as it's not their place. And that fosters a family connection as well as create some warm and interesting (and also amusing) memories. I do believe that the reason I was not seriously harmed (in the small town with the communal farm) is because anyone tempted to do so were scared of what my family would do in reprisal, though I did have to worry about relatives raising a hand against me.

(Heh, it just occurs to me...remembering my cousin who mocked a school teacher that paddled him...maybe that teacher would've paddled him a hell a lot harder had he been someone else from a different family. Though don't misunderstand, corporal punishment is widely practiced on kids--even teens--in my family and can be harsh. It also wouldn't surprise me if my cousin's father, upon hearing of my cousin giving the teacher lip like that, whipped him a hell a lot harder and longer than the teacher dared with anyone.)

posted January 25, 2016 11:37 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
It's difficult to describe my relations to my family. Most of our extended family (at least on my mother's side, my father's side won't have much to do with me) shares a communal farm and there is a long tradition of passing homes down through the generations, which is very different from most of America (at least as far as I can tell), and that fosters a different attitude. When I lived with Granny, I had the same room as Mom did and as Granny did when they were children, and that can add something, I suppose, to hear of things that happened in my room decades before I was born, and knowing that those I've only known as adults were once little girls themselves who looked out the same window, just as I did.

And our family can be dysfunctional at times, even violent

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I haven't read all of it entirely, but this actually does sound a lot like my family (grew up in a rural area of the state).

Not one hundred percent, of course. But my mom now lives in the house she grew up in, her sister and brother live on either side of my grandma's house (where my mom lives, which she shares legally with my aunt), and my cousin lives in the house she grew up in as well, which is about two miles away from the rest of the family compound.

I lived with my grandma growing up, off and on, mostly as a teenager.

My dad's side of the family talks to me, but they don't have much interest in how/what I'm doing.
My dad and I do talk often, but I'm not close to anyone else in his family, including my brothers.

Anyway...I'll continue reading what you posted, but I am in the midst of a family thing within my psyche, so it's at the forefront of my mind.

Uh...please don't quote, I'll probably edit this.

Edit.
Well, I guess that's where the similarities with our families end, but I still find it interesting that there is a similar setup and closeness, despite some toxicity, and Leo is usually very family oriented.

Not suggesting that people's natal charts dictate how their childhoods will be, although I'm sure it plays a part. But it's still interesting to note a somewhat similar approach...

posted January 26, 2016 10:02 AM            

I noticed that the Virgo Asc I knew couldn't resist correcting people if they made punctuation or grammatical errors.

The Cancer Asc was very close with his family. More especially his mother. And he also loved to host at his house-which was very cozy.

The Leo Asc loved to tell stories and didn't appreciate being interrupted.He also liked it if you highlighted him as the main character in most

The Gemini Asc was not the most talkative but would giggle when something clever was said i.e a play on words or clever use of wording etc.

Pisces Asc used to talk of "vortex", "energy center" and "clearing negative vines" a lot. She also smoked a lot of pot-talk about stereotypes.

I think she fantasized about being a spiritual guru who lives in the woods and gets back to nature etc.

I have Pluto opposing Asc,conjunct Dsc and so I kinda understood the Pisces rising. And we would have long chats on things "other worldly". I also have a stellium in 8th.

I think the Asc is sometimes painfully obvious. At other times it is filtered by another planet that opposes, conjuncts or squares it.

It could also happen that the Sun/Moon have such strong aspects that they may override its influence.

But these are the ones I have experienced. And some others of-course. But I don't want to write a book here

posted January 26, 2016 11:31 AM            

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Originally posted by Violets:
Lol. My Pisces Sun/Leo Asc has nothing in common with yours!

I'm over here like...

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posted January 26, 2016 11:42 AM            

So maybe this is why I'm shy?
I was doing so well URGH It sucks

Appearance wise my style is very unique
But that could be my MC Aquarius

You should see what Im wearing today I am wearing leggings with a gold shiny jacket and this sexy smokey eye make up

posted January 26, 2016 11:59 AM            

I agree, the ascendant is more than a mask. Haven't grasped the full nuance of it's meaning yet, but reading what you guys wrote resonates with some of what I was thinking. *phew*, so I'm not the only one. It does denote a part of us - the foremost 'me' identification, because it's operating from the house of Aries.

I have a Pisces Asc. I can attest to the part that that's how I come off to people at first. What I like about this placement is that gives me camouflage abilities (which my Scorp mars loves for investigation purposes). I can sneak in and out of almost anywhere unnoticed (shh..don't tell. And I shall erase this). Love playing tricks on my friends like this. Deftly stealing something from right under their nose. And they don't even notice it's gone until I tell them. We make a game out of it.

I do tend to go with the flow, a lot more than would be expected from my natal cardinal/fixed placements. Pisces asc can be subtle as hell, and while I like it most times - sometimes that works against me. Esp when I'm trying to make a point (in a meeting or debate). Despite the inner conviction, can't be assertive enough at times. And yeah, I tend to wander off and look really lost. *_*

AscTaurus you're kinda right. I too am inundated with 'vibes' all day, and talk incessantly about them to my friends. Can get annoying!

posted January 26, 2016 12:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
I'm a Gemini ASC
But I have NEPTUNE SQUARE MY ASC TRANSITING!!! AHH

So maybe this is why I'm shy?
I was doing so well URGH It sucks

Appearance wise my style is very unique
But that could be my MC Aquarius

You should see what Im wearing today I am wearing leggings with a gold shiny jacket and this sexy smokey eye make up

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There's a duality right there ! Shy but daring choice of clothes. I'm loving the Gemini Asc-Aqua MC combo.

posted January 26, 2016 12:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Violets:
Hey Pixie, since we both have Leo Asc (wait...is your Sag stellium in your H5, because that might cancel out what I'm pondering)...

We both have kind of weird relationships with our families, but I think that we're both sort of Leo-ish regarding our families, maybe?

Like I don't really care for my family much, I don't agree with anything they say whatsoever (I do have Pluto in H3), but...I'm strangely nostalgic about my family and homeland, and strangely dedicated to my family, as much as I would like to tell them to take a hike a lot of the time.

I also have super thick, curly/wavy hair, and it's frustrating.

I either keep it very short or fairly long, and never take much time with it.

My dad and I also have our Asc within about 2 degrees of each other, and I inherited his hair, and his teeth.

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I adore the Leonine placement's lush hair!

posted January 26, 2016 12:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Elysia:
It does denote a part of us - the foremost 'me' identification, because it's operating from the house of Aries.

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