posted March 25, 2016 06:53 PM            

So dedicated! That would be

27 Nakshatras x 4 padas = 108 videos

posted March 25, 2016 09:50 PM            

But anyways
I did watch all of his moon sign descriptions
I can't find them on his channel though

posted March 25, 2016 09:57 PM            

https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL302BFD8E741A1B5A

posted March 26, 2016 07:56 AM            

Western:
Taurus Moon
Gemini Mars
Cancer Venus
Cancer Sun
Leo Asc/Mercury (Jup)

Vedic:
Aries Moon, in a Nakshatra ruled by Venus
Taurus Mars, in a Nakshatra ruled by Moon
Gemini Venus, in a Nakshatra ruled by Merc
Cancer Sun, in a Nakshatra ruled by Jup
Cancer Asc/Merc in a Nak ruled by Merc

I've got Saturn conjunct Rahu in Leo explaining my too-over-the-top-to-be-a-real-effing-Leo style (I guess Asc/Merc/Jup in Leo do that too). Leo Suns look at me like, she is not of me.

I remember this thread where this troubled fellow was trying to understand his dark feelings, etc. I looked up his Vedic placements and also his Jupiter/Chiron conjunction. Damn! He's like seriously gifted. He just doesn't understand how deep it goes. I wanted to comment, but the thread got closed. I even thought of starting a thread for him, but...so many doubts about whether he was even around...whether it would start more trouble...

I don't know if I'll ever drop one system for the other. Ecumenism is kind of my thing. I use Christianity to explain Islam, Islam to explain Christianity, and Buddhism to school them all. Maybe I'm a Sufi...maybe I'm just a master of none.

posted March 26, 2016 11:10 AM            

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Moon in Aqua seems great. I liked the video but I don't like the pada descriptions.. I'm more into the general sign

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Thanks...it's SO accurate for me. But then, so is Moon in Pisces.

posted March 26, 2016 11:12 AM            

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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
I don't know if I'll ever drop one system for the other. Ecumenism is kind of my thing. I use Christianity to explain Islam, Islam to explain Christianity, and Buddhism to school them all.

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I'm struggling to make sense of it all but trying to stay positive.

posted March 26, 2016 12:01 PM            

Dhanishta starts at 23°20 Capricorn

My Moon is according to

Lahiri: 23°35 Cap
Fagan-Allen: 22°42 Cap (though this is sidereal, but not Vedic)
and I don`t list the others, there are just too many calculations possible.
In most my Moon IS in Dhanishta, in some however also the preceding one.

the preceding one
"Shravana "to hear" 10. 00 to 23.20 Capricorn

This is the star of listening, also called the "Star of Learning". They are always questing for knowledge, and information. They can be very intellectual. Wisdom and the spoken word are very important here. They make great teachers, or perpetual students. Counseling is a gift for they have the ability to truly listen. Their sense of hearing can be very acute and sensitive. They are very traditional and want to uncover knowledge of the past. Listening and participating in gossip are common, even though they are extremely sensitive and hurt as a result. Their restless nature causes them to travel extensively, usually in a pursuit of knowledge. There seems to be trouble and disappointments early in life, and some disabilities. With age they slowly regain their sense of self-confidence. They can walk with a limp or an unusual gate."

And Dhanishta

"The "Star of Symphony", there is considerable material wealth, ownership of property and real estate with this nakshatra. As to the symbols of musical instruments, some do possess musical ability. The "Star of Symphony", there is considerable material wealth, ownership of property and real estate with this nakshatra. As to the symbols of musical instruments, some do possess musical ability and love dancing, for they are able to keep a beat. With this notion they are great at timing, this can refer to having a knack for being at the right place at the right time. There seems to be emptiness from within, for the musical instruments, a drum and flute are hollow. They are constantly trying to fill this void, and this may be the cause of their problems in relationships and marital discord. Marriage may be delayed or denied. There is a tendency to live up to the expectations of others. They can be materialistic, and gain fame and recognition. They must be careful not to be too self absorbed, greedy, and narcissistic. They love the excitement of travel."

And Mr Sag`s Moon is in Moola

"Nirriti means "calamity", and is the goddess of destruction who lives in the kingdom of the dead. Nirriti has the power to ruin, destroy and break things apart. It is sometimes called Alakshmi or denial of Lakshmi (prosperity). She is depicted as Kali the fierce goddess who wears a necklace of skulls and human heads dangle from her belt. Her wild dance destroys illusions; she helps us see reality, the disgusting and beautiful.

Called the "Root Star" they have a passionate nature that wants to get to the bottom of things. They are good at investigation, and research. They feel bound and trapped by the circumstances of their life, and can get caught up in blaming others or their environment. There can be extreme reversals in their lives with great losses. There seems to be cruelty, pain, and sharpness. Material fortunes seem to be stripped away, the lesson of non-attachment leads to spiritual realization. Resentment and betrayal are common. The deep sense of loss forces them to look deeper and seek a higher power, transforming their experiences into enlightenment. Excesses lead to compulsive behavior. There may be an interest in healing with herbs or alternative medicine."

Hmmm, I like mine better, even with the delayed/ denied marriage-thing.
However my Sun-Mercury-Venus join his Sun-Moon in "Moola". Oh great.
Not only do I not get married but I also destroy the marriage I don`t have.

posted March 26, 2016 12:30 PM            

Does any of that even fit, Ceri?

posted March 26, 2016 12:39 PM            

But personally I am not inclined to abandon western astrology.

posted March 26, 2016 12:52 PM            

Vedic Aqua Moons (yours truly) are supposedly cursed because we are ruled by two malefics, Rahu and Saturn.

If you look at a list of (Western) Pisces moons, it does look like we are cursed!! Many are dying young, going to jail, committing crazy crimes.

Vedic says we're cursed because we are trying to pave the way forward to a new era and clashing with society in the process. (Aqua moon)

Western says we are bogged down because we absorb everyone's vibes around us...we are the cosmic "garbage can" and get immobilized and screwed up accordingly. (Pisces moon)

So far I have not seen anything in Vedic that pays homage to that phenomenon: the trouble of too much psychic permeability.

In fact, the Vedic Pisces moons are mostly brilliantly thriving, energetic and successful people! Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Angelina Jolie!

It's like they are credited with all the sensitivity, yet they don't have to experience the hardcore downside of sensitivity. Gotta admit that makes me a little jealous. HECK YEAH I would love to be imaginative without all the drawbacks, escapism, self-sacrifice and addictions.

And I'd also like to think that the most "highly evolved" sign, Pisces, is relatively free of all those burdens. That it's NOT the sign of prison and self-undoing but more like, happily ever after!

(More like ARIES!)

posted March 28, 2016 02:45 PM            

The more Vedic videos I watch, the more I see how clearly Vedic astrology is completely different with its whole approach. From what I gather so far, it aims to be predictive with a much higher level of specificity (say that 5 x fast ), with respect to destiny, timing, and transits.

So a Vedic astrologer would like to be able to say in advance that you will buy a blue car, not red, at a certain place and time, years before it happens.

Then the question becomes, who cares? And if Vedic astrologers are studying that much when do they have time to buy cars? All they do is astrology.

Some Vedic astrologers use the tropical zodiac and have convincing reasons for doing so. I posted these in the Vedic forum if anyone wants to look (too lazy to transfer the links now, and it would tempt the mods even more to move this thread.)

posted March 28, 2016 09:09 PM            

But yes, I don't think there are enough modern progressive Vedic astrologers and it's a big turn-off because certain extroverted qualities are deemed to be unfit for females and vice versa. Plus if there are, their knowledge is just not accessible for a western audience.

I'm still fascinated though because astrology is such a part of their culture ( unlike western, being relegated to "esoteric" study).

posted March 28, 2016 10:02 PM            

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Originally posted by FmVenusWLove:
My inner Scorpio was really enjoying the beginning part of this thread. Talk of revenge and torture? *ears perk up*

I agree with others who have commented that mixing systems doesn't work. I also agree that Aries moons can be quite compassionate/empathetic/otherworldly. However, I think the biggest difference (besides being action oriented) is that Aries is a discriminating sign whereas Pisces is not. Aries identifies members of his/her tribe/gang/battalion. It is very much an us vs them attitude with them and if you are lucky to be a part of the "brotherhood" so to speak, they feel your happiness/fear/pain just as deeply as any water moon. I have never felt more deeply understood or protected than with an Aries moon. If they care about you, they seem to channel your emotional pain into causing physical pain to others where they can. Pisces energy is very passive - it takes energy internally and just lets it muddy the waters so to speak. Aries takes it in and spits it back out at you with 100X more force...at least this has been my experience with both.

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I have mars in capricorn so I am quite subdued but my aries moon friend was my knight in shining armor, especially in crisis situation.

posted March 28, 2016 10:53 PM            

I think Pisces moon stereotypes get on my nerves sometimes...

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Pisces energy is very passive - it takes energy internally and just lets it muddy the waters so to speak.

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It doesn't feel passive to me.

posted March 28, 2016 11:55 PM            

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I think Pisces moon stereotypes get on my nerves sometimes...

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Hihihi, you know most ppl love Pisces moon

For the record, Hillary Clinton is s Pisces moon and Bernie Sander is an Aries moon. And they both are very exemplary of their moon sign qualities.

posted March 28, 2016 11:57 PM            

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For the record, Hillary Clinton is s Pisces moon and Bernie Sander is an Aries moon. And they both are very exemplary of their moon sign qualities.

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Ew

Thanks for the example

posted March 29, 2016 09:07 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
I think Pisces moon stereotypes get on my nerves sometimes...

It doesn't feel passive to me.

It requires a lot of internal energy to "process" others' energy.

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Not a stereotype. Pisces energy is passive. It is feminine energy and it's empathetic qualities are heightened in the moon placement - empathy in and of itself is a passive experience. Other placements can change how this is expressed, but if we're talking pure Pisces Moon energy then Pisces would process things internally - not trying to imply that that wouldn't require a lot of energy or that it doesn't take effort. I only meant to highlight the difference between feminine energy and masculine energy in a receptive placement (Moon).

posted March 29, 2016 09:51 AM            

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But why take that seriously, why even let it annoy you?

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It just feels like work that has to be done.

Somebody has to eventually articulate it better, to move the conversation forward. And I don't want to do it myself.

But here, I will try. *patting myself on the back*

One fish swims backwards and one swims forwards. Both movements are just natural impulses, same as all moon signs have.

Swimming backwards:
Could represent that need to retreat, back off, move away and preserve oneself. We're sensitive so sometimes even harmless things can feel bad or overwhelming. We want to be alone.

Swimming forwards:
Most of the time we don't retreat for long, or at all. We push forwards and try to connect with the same person who is "harming" us (or harming us.)

Why? Because we learned early in life that we are too sensitive, and this is the only way to be part of humanity, by toughening up, overlooking all kinds of bad vibes. We try and negate the hurtful stuff by imagining we are the other person, and seeing how we do the same thing or could have.

(Sometimes we over-apply that mechanism and end up dating psychopaths. Or we become psychopaths since everything gets all warped and dizzy.)

But just on a regular basis, I guess I'd like people to realize that Pisces moons (and suns, I believe) often do what we don't want to do. Part of us is doing something and the other part is squirming and trying to swim in the other direction.

Lesson over

posted March 29, 2016 09:56 AM            

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Originally posted by FmVenusWLove:
Not a stereotype. Pisces energy is passive. It is feminine energy and it's empathetic qualities are heightened in the moon placement - empathy in and of itself is a passive experience. Other placements can change how this is expressed, but if we're talking pure Pisces Moon energy then Pisces would process things internally - not trying to imply that that wouldn't require a lot of energy or that it doesn't take effort. I only meant to highlight the difference between feminine energy and masculine energy in a receptive placement (Moon).

Pisces receives indiscriminately and processes the experience internally. Aries receives what it chooses to receive (because as I mentioned, there is that element of "us vs. them" with Aries energy) and processes the experience externally. That was essentially what I was trying to communicate lol. One is not better than the other. They are just different

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I understand. Well said.

posted March 29, 2016 10:09 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
I understand. Well said.

I just wanted to complain about the word "passive."

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