posted April 20, 2022 09:00 PM            

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Ha... as a Taurus who continually attracts Geminis, this makes sense of a lot of things. They never stick around though!

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My Tarrus Venus tends to form a Sun Conjuct Venus with Tarrus females and draw Tarrus Females in.

I almost ended up with a Tarrus sun, her Mars Conjunct My Moon while my Mars Trine her Moon.

There was some strange kind of attraction-friction there...I walked out of that one...

I'd describe her as a powerfull lose cannon, when were together we'll blast everything away.....but when she turns on me she'll blast me away!!!

Dep being the typical Gem whould have known the same thing with Amber Heard.

Deep could have ended the relationship before it whould became a problem...instead he continued.

I still see it in his mind that he figured Amber was easy prey....and he's paying the price for that!!!. He knows it in his mind.

posted April 21, 2022 03:46 PM            

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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:

I also remember reading around the same time that winona had also said that johnny was abusive physically and the main reason why they split.

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This is not true. You should research before you plant false info on peoples mind.

Here is Winonas statement :

"'I knew Johnny very well years ago. We were together as a couple for four years, and I counted him as my best friend, and as close to me as family," her statement read, as published by Metro. "'I count our relationship as one of the more significant relationships of my life."

"I understand that it is very important that I speak from my own experience, as I obviously was not there during his marriage to Amber, but, from my experience, which was so wildly different, I was absolutely shocked, confused and upset when I heard the accusations against him,"

"The idea that he is an incredibly violent person is the farthest thing from the Johnny I knew and loved. I cannot wrap my head around these accusations. He was never, never violent towards me. He was never, never abusive at all towards me. He has never been violent or abusive towards anybody I have seen."

"I truly and honestly only know him as a really good man – an incredibly loving, extremely caring guy who was so very protective of me and the people that he loves, and I felt so very, very safe with him," she explained.

"I do not want to call anyone a liar but from my experience of Johnny, it is impossible to believe that such horrific allegations are true. I find it extremely upsetting, knowing him as I do."

And to all who are making judgements based on astro charts and being vocal about it on forums, social media etx...You are doing astrology a great disservice.

Its an active court case... Silence please.

posted April 21, 2022 06:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Librapurr:
There’s live trial on YouTube now http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1loamyPv9aA

JD and AH seem to look similar here like they could be related, or it’s just similar style, or it’s just me…
http://ibb.co/5Y4mk05

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posted April 22, 2022 01:08 PM            

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Originally posted by sashavittoria:
There are a lot of threads on social media and in the news detailing how she is copying his style as the case goes on, wearing the same tie a day or two later, etc. It tracks with what a previous assistant of her testified, that AH even copied his interior design, etc.

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Weird. I’m glad I’m not only one noticing.

On one side, she tries to destroy him. On the other, she is mirroring his expressions, style. And she looked very concerned and in pain when he told his story. Is it some weird acting tricks?!
I expected to see more Pluto in their chart to think she might have obsession with him.

posted April 22, 2022 01:12 PM            

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Weird. I’m glad I’m not only one noticing.

On one side, she tries to destroy him. On the other, she is mirroring his expressions, style. And she looked very concerned and in pain when he told his story. Is it some weird acting tricks?!
I expected to see more Pluto in their chart to think she might have obsession with him.

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posted April 22, 2022 01:28 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Thats because they are lying and trying to put the abuse into someone else and go to trial to say it was addressed. This is all a show they are on the same team. Both are evil liars.

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Why does Johnny need it? He might ruin his reputation and career more with all these dirty details. I could see Amber might use more publicity.

posted April 22, 2022 02:02 PM            

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Why does Johnny need it? He might ruin his reputation and career more with all these dirty details. I could see Amber might use more publicity.

It seems like public opinion on his side. But the expects commented on the trial said it was a mistake to go there after loosing UK trial in 2020 and he probably won’t win with all evidences of his behavior.

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I think he's really determined to clear his name. All he has talked about is how it affects his income because his income affects his children. Since he's been bad with money, he's really concerned about providing for his kids. As others have noted, he grew up poor and probably has a scarcity mindset/fear around this issue. His main concern via calls with AH when she publicly accused him were about how the gossip/publicity would affect his kids. And as ilunatique pointed out, it hits home. This is not just about her, but about resolving childhood trauma. Trying to. No one believes victims, regardless of gender...

But anyway we are getting off topic from the astrology... I agree with sis's sentiment above about it being an active case, but it is an astrology forum so I think it's appropriate we try and relate it to astrology.

JD has Pluto in the 2nd and moon in the 6th, very intense about his income. These are trine. And his NN in Cancer, SN in Cap, very preoccupied with security of his children, both fiscal/reputation (Cap) and emotional (Cancer).

posted April 23, 2022 11:27 AM            

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I think he's really determined to clear his name. All he has talked about is how it affects his income because his income affects his children. Since he's been bad with money, he's really concerned about providing for his kids. As others have noted, he grew up poor and probably has a scarcity mindset/fear around this issue. His main concern via calls with AH when she publicly accused him were about how the gossip/publicity would affect his kids. And as ilunatique pointed out, it hits home. This is not just about her, but about resolving childhood trauma. Trying to. No one believes victims, regardless of gender...

But anyway we are getting off topic from the astrology... I agree with sis's sentiment above about it being an active case, but it is an astrology forum so I think it's appropriate we try and relate it to astrology.

JD has Pluto in the 2nd and moon in the 6th, very intense about his income. These are trine. And his NN in Cancer, SN in Cap, very preoccupied with security of his children, both fiscal/reputation (Cap) and emotional (Cancer).

The problem is that he's so concerned with trying to prove AH is the abuser. But that's not the question being asked. The question is whether HE abused her. So unfortunately it doesn't even matter, to the outcome of the case, what she did as long as they prove whether he did or did not hurt her. That was his mistake in the London trial.

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posted May 18, 2022 11:21 PM            

“ I’ve seen some tweets from left wing folks arguing that the Depp/Heard trial is a celebrity tabloid mess and we should be focusing on the real issues right now.

The country is going to **** . You’re not wrong. But we need to talk about this trial, too. Here's why.”

posted May 18, 2022 11:31 PM            

Abusers often use the court system to continue to torment and control their victims after the relationship ends. This trial has trapped Heard in the past, keeps her entangled with Depp, and forces her to relive the worst moments of her life over and over.

Depp chose to sue Heard in Virginia, even though they both live in California. Legal experts think he did so to take advantage of weaknesses in the state’s anti-SLAPP law, which ironically is supposed to protect free speech.

Because the trial is taking place in a county court in Virginia, streaming the proceedings is allowed with a judge’s authorization. This puts even more pressure on Heard, with the entire world able to watch her testimony and heckle her online in real time.

This case is about more than two celebrities. It has completely taken over the internet and warps our understanding of abuse in ways that hurt victims right now. YouTubers, TikTok creators, and even Etsy sellers are chasing the trend and cashing in.

Because of the trial’s ubiquity on TikTok, kids and teenagers are bombarded by ignorant memes and biased opinions about domestic violence.

What lessons are they absorbing about abuse victims, and about the severity of domestic violence?

On TikTok, folks have literally taken the audio of Amber Heard's testimony describing Depp physically assaulting her and made videos ridiculing her.

Domestic violence experts are scared that this trial will make victims feel less safe asking for help. “I can’t imagine what this might be doing to someone who may eventually want to seek safety and support,” said the CEO of National Coalition Against DV.

As the internet turns against Heard, victims get a front row seat to how they too can be discredited. Heard has been framed as the “real” abuser, or a “mutual” abuser. A psychologist hired by Depp’s team falsely claimed Heard is bipolar and has “histrionic personality disorder.”

The “mutual abuse” claim is especially troubling, as it frames abuse victims defending themselves, or reacting violently after years of being on the receiving end of violence, as just as bad as the abuser’s behavior. It confuses the actual dynamic at play.

If you are a victim who has defended yourself against your abuser, or been violent toward your abuser after being psychologically broken down by them, you are at risk of being arrested alongside them. You are also less likely to feel valid seeking the support you need.

Depp fans are quick to claim that Heard is exhibiting DARVO behavior — deny, attack, reverse victim and offender. In reality that is what Depp has successfully done: after Heard wrote an op-ed about her experience as an abuse survivor, he fired back that she is the real offender.

Meanwhile, Johnny Depp fans have begun to harass other victims. They’re circling the wagons around Marilyn Manson, who is a prolific abuser and rapist, as well as Depp’s friend. And he is also suing his victim, Evan Rachel Wood, for defamation.

Depp fans are even harassing Depp’s daughter for… not publicly supporting him enough. Or something. Totally normal behavior.

As a survivor who still struggles to understand what happened to me, I find it painful to see trends like #AmberHeardIsALiar and #AmberHeardIsAPsychopath pop up every single day on Twitter. It sends a message that victims are exaggerating and need to shut up.

The circus around the Depp/Heard trial will insidiously damage the way we think about and talk about abuse and sexual violence for decades. It will indirectly hurt millions of victims who feel less safe getting help, speaking up, and seeking justice. It hurts all of us.

I turned off replies for this thread because as a survivor, I don't want to debate this.

I do not believe Heard just because she is a woman. I believe her because she has a strong case. There is good, unbiased reporting that I encourage you to read. VICE has done a great job.

I also believe Heard because multiple courts in the UK decided her story was credible, and that The Sun didn't libel Depp when they called him a "wife beater". A judge found that 12 of the 14 alleged incidents of domestic violence had occurred.

If you'd like to learn more about domestic violence and abuse in general, here are some of my favorite books on the topic. I'm always adding to this list, if you have recommendations. http://bookshop.org/lists/intimate-partner-violence-and-abuse-reading-list

More evidence that the Depp/Heard trial is scaring other survivors. Dr. Jessica Taylor, a psychologist who specializes in sexual violence and victim-blaming, says victims currently awaiting case hearings are considering retracting.

Earlier in the thread I stated that a psychologist hired by Depp's team falsely diagnosed Heard with bipolar disorder. CORRECTION: The psychologist falsely diagnosed Heard with borderline personality disorder.

I did not want to write about the Johnny Depp trial. But, well, here we are.

posted May 19, 2022 12:29 AM            

She downplays her behavior and exaggerates his. Her crocodile tears during her testimony have seemed abnormal and uncomfortable to observe. In my opinion, BPD is a fair and evidential diagnosis, from what I’ve extensively read about Cluster B disorders over the years, and hopefully a means for her to heal. Denial doesn’t help her cause, on the contrary, and is a shame to mental health advocacy.

I follow the trial in full and live with legal commentary by Emily D. Baker: http://youtube.com/c/TheEmilyDBaker

For the sake of astrology, I want to list their difficult aspects in synastry. I haven’t gotten around yet to reading the previous pages of this thread.

JD Saturn square AH Venus
AH Saturn square JD Mars
AH Mars conjunct JD Moon
AH Mars square JD Jupiter

In my experience irl, I’ve seen a case in Saturn-Mars aspects, the Saturn person (female) *publicly claimed* sexual misconduct (by her ex) where there hadnt been any. Retaliating (to publicly shame is the key m.o. here) Mars’ sexuality with a sense of “the law/punishment” that isn’t necessarily relative to their experience, rather for control.

Am noticing for the first time, that perhaps any harsh Saturn synastry aspect actually implies “poor judgment”—a number of us can attest to being on the receiving end of that (Saturn) in synastry.

On the other hand, JD Saturn squares her Venus, this lines up with her being nastily criticized by him about her looks, Venusian career, and probably her love. A friend of mine has his Saturn square his gf Venus and I try to remind him, when he vents to me their latest issue, to cease from criticizing/intellectualizing/patronizing her needs in relationship.

Based on the surprisingly limited yet potent harsh aspects they share, AH Mars conjunct JD Moon is suspicious to me. It’s a classic aspect of domestic (Moon) violence (Mars), with Mars being the aggressor, if not dominating. I’ve seen a separate case irl wherein the female Mars conjunct male Moon was physically violent to him throughout the course of their relationship, in spite of standing 5’5” to his 6’2” height. In spite of her violent behavior, I’ve never heard him claim to be a victim of DV/IPV only that “things got bad”, which is sadly a normal self-effacing understatement, the pitfalls of personal expectations some men have on masculinity (self-control) and their endurance (fear of failure) in partnership.

Although there is a disproportionate amount of male to female violence, bottom line is the fact that women can and DO abuse male partners too, and can equally get away with the consequences of their actions so long as men don’t seek help on their own behalf – the point of this trial for me for the public’s eye: if there’s mutual abuse neither are a civil victim.

A “victim” of domestic violence would not gift a weapon (knife) to their so-called abuser! This was sick. (Again, She shouldn’t deny a personality disorder.)

The way she recalls her grotesque beatings do not match her own evidence. her claims are wildly shocking yet… our standard human physiology is validating proof of impact/injury. For example, the light bruising beneath her eyes, because of her very fair skin tone, more in fact could be due to her intense crying, bursting capillary blood vessels around area—this effect is known as Petechiae. If she was hit, bruising on her complexion would firstly be plain as day, deep blue/purple/red. With it also so superficially close to the eyelid, the sclera would also be injured, bloodshot. Why must she exaggerate? I don’t discredit their tragic fights, but she can’t just point at a fever blister and sore eyes and say to friends the next day “he does this to me”

She also claims for most of her testimony that her position in the relationship was altruistic about (at the mercy of) JD’s sobriety yet brought her cocaine/alcohol addicted sister into his daily life. Um.. that’s a delusional sense of character. Sabotage.

I have to disagree with the notion that this particular trial will poorly affect future victims. If anything, the exceptional discernment required to identify multi-faceted expression of what constitutes abuse in the court of law is a virtue. Emotional/Psychological. Physical/Sexual. Financial/Material. Mutual. Etc. they all need (publicly) to be considered! I’ve read many DV/IPV victims in the chat room of the livestreams actually upset and offended with Amber Heard’s testimony, as if this is her bid to save face and not a genuine recount. She’s also liable to perjury…

This conspiracy of him going to Virginia to explicitly be able to tell the world… one, is what she told him to do when goading that no one would believe him about her abuse, and two, her OP-ED published in the Washington Post has company ties to the state of Virginia.

She’s complicit, her testimony, is at odds with any criminal justice if that’s what she wants as her portrayal as the sole victim. Though again, this is a defamation lawsuit by her failing (deceiving) to include that she participated in the DV too, when publicizing a one-sided story in a major newspaper that caused him disgrace for her own gain.

Teasel outlined points about the potential problems with mutual abuse though I disagree with leeway. There’s a major difference between defending oneself in the moment, and then there’s retaliation (intent of violence). A person who attacks let alone kills their abuser is still a perpetuator/murderer and should be charged. There’s never an excuse for violence no matter the circumstance. If a victim were unduly charged, they can plead innocence, let the court decide. However if any victim is considering retracting their charges because they’re implicit in heinous mutual abuse, then fair enough that may be a just decision, admission of guiltiness to party. A jury would know the difference between honest self-defense (an innocent victim) and the intent to harm. Real victims have little to lose in the face of Justice.

To be frank, my sympathy for any toxic, unstable partnerships is at an all time low and hope this trial embarrasses everyone. Glad their BS is on display to purge.

posted May 19, 2022 09:11 AM            

Johnny steals the true christs energy field and uses her beauty to make films and get respect from people.

posted May 19, 2022 10:53 PM            

Whoever said he, in fact, hates women and prefers men is correct, I believe.

posted May 19, 2022 11:46 PM            

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I find it interesting that Johnny has Saturn in Aqua as the ruler for his Moon and Venus in Tau as the final dispositor for all his other planets including the Asc/Ic and Mc.

Sat in Aqua in the 7th(accidental exaltation) is imo his dominant planet. Ven in Tau is strong but I think because of its position in the 10th(not the 7th) diminishes its power a little.Well,atleast when compared to Saturn.

His appearance has always been kinda "bony" to me(typical of Saturn as it gives an amazing bone structure). This is especially so when we look at his pictures in his younger years. And he likes eccentric, dark things-this to further reiterate the Saturn in Aqua influence.

One would think that with Saturn in 7th(typically), he would opt for a partner that is mature? Not so. Not when Aqua is there. Aqua likes the eccentric and unconventional. Turning things on their head etc. So disruption/living on the edge is attractive.

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It is understandable that people overly conflate Saturn with Capricorn and Capricorn with Saturn, but in reality, the Cayce work is more correct. In that work, Saturn is pointed to as a symbol of the slowest vibratory consciousness possible--that of complete anti social psychopathy and total, willful separation from Source and Love. So much so, that Cayce's guidance said that Saturn represents the experience of a Soul experiencing a true and final death-- a Soul/consciousness death. How so, through a kind of consciousness entropy because there is such a lack of attunement to the very foundation of Creation i.e. Light/Love itself!

As I said before, when people have Saturn in their 7th House (especially with no other Planets), they tend to attract/be attracted to unusually slow vibratory types of people. People that range from NPD, to BPD, to ASPD.

It can be counter balanced by other factors though. Saturn in the 7th by itself does not always tell the full story. The Desc ruler conjunct or trine say Venus, Neptune, Jupiter, and/or Sun can for example, offset/counter balance this, and the partner may be in the more normal range of empathy and conscience.

I don't know why so many people are so resistant to this info/knowledge, but having looked at so many charts of people within the ASPD spectrum and seeing such powerful Saturn time and time again (NOT Capricorn or Aquarius), personally, I cannot overlook the pattern. But it is important to note, this only manifests at these very extreme ends when the mid to faster vibratory Planetary symbols (i.e. Venus, Neptune, Jupiter, Sun, and/or Arcturus) are simultaneously weak.

P.S., I think you're on to something with his appearance. My gut feeling is that his Leo Rising is quite a bit later and opposed the Aqua Saturn and perhaps cusping Virgo some. If you mixed my full brother (Virgo Rising with Virgo Venus Mars conjunction conjunct his Asc) and I (Leo Rising with Sun in Cap) together in about equal proportions, you get something akin to Depp looks wise. (Many think my brother is extremely good looking).

posted May 20, 2022 12:05 AM            

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Winona has spoken of his smashing things and she hired a former federal prosecutor to have her deposition nullified. He abused and cheated on every single one of them. He was found by the judge to have stolen millions from Anthony Fox and had to compensate his teenage daughter. Anthony disappeared the night before trial and has never been seen again. Not a single ex, not one, was willing to say under oath or testify that he wasn't abusive. Vanessa was paid 150 million in hush money.

Whoever said he, in fact, hates women and prefers men is correct, I believe.

He has supported Allen Ginsburg who was a vocal advocate for NAMBLA, a pedophile organization. He got child killer Echols off death row by and also defends Polanski. How anyone with a conscience can support the scum is beyond me

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Smashing things doesn't = an abuser. Back when I was younger and my testosterone much higher and with less Soul control of my body, I've punched my share of walls and the like. I have Leo Rising with Sun trine Mars Jupiter conjunction, and am of Scottish Highlander stock--with reddish facial hair and all. There is temper and testosterone in Fire energy for sure. But still doesn't automatically = abuser.

All of his exes have spoken up for him and said that he never abused them and was incapable of same. You seem to have some kind of weird prejudice and near hatred of the man. And are going so far as to just blatantly make up stuff.

He is no angel/saint by any stretch*, but it is extremely, glaringly obvious that A.H. was the holistic abuser (physical, emotional, mental) in that relationship, and she is beyond conniving in general. And it seems like his substance abuse got much worse after the honeymoon phase of their relationship ended. He woke up one day to find that his beloved was a demon possessed rage and control monster. Probably kind of unbalancing.

People turn to substances as an escapism from reality, besides physiological addiction factors.

* the combination of significant childhood abuse and trauma growing up, and becoming very rich and famous at a young age, is not an easy combo to deal with. Clearly he has healing and balancing to do. Yet, even with all that, many, many, many people who have known him have spoken to his kind, generous, thoughtful, considerate heart and ways.

Multiple people don't work for you for decades when you're a complete d!ck. There is no amount of money that can make up for that. Now narcissists like A.H. go through relationships of all kinds, like people go through underwear. Lack of consistency in relationships (partners, friends, etc) is one of the common signs of people on that spectrum.

Meanwhile, having many long term, consistent loyal connections is not common.

posted May 20, 2022 06:58 AM            

The conservative media outlet ran Facebook and Instagram ads for stories backing Johnny Depp, an investigation by media non-profit the Citizens for VICE World News found.

http://www.vice.com/en/article/3ab3yk/daily-wire-amber-heard-johnny-depp

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The Daily Wire spent tens of thousands of dollars promoting misleading news about the Johnny Depp and Amber Heard trial on social media, the Citizens and VICE World News can reveal.

The conservative outlet, founded by Ben Shapiro, is currently the second most popular news publisher on Facebook. It has so far spent between $35,000 and $47,000 on Facebook and Instagram ads promoting articles about the trial, eliciting some four million impressions. The majority of these ads promote one-sided articles and videos with a clear bias against Heard. They are largely promoted via the Facebook pages of high profile conservative figures including right-wing commentator Candace Owens.

Hollywood actor Depp is suing his ex-wife and actor Heard for $50 million, for a 2018 opinion piece she wrote in the Washington Post that described herself as “a public figure representing domestic abuse.” Depp’s team maintains that the piece was about him, though Heard did not name him directly. Heard in turn filed a counterclaim for $100 million in damages. They have accused each other of abuse, which they each deny. The case, taking place in Fairfax, Virginia, US, is ongoing.

The case has become the subject of extensive online commentary and scrutiny in the US. According to data from social-media tracking firm NewsWhip, from the 4th of April to the 16th of May the Depp Heard trial amassed more social media interactions per published article than any other topic, including the Russia Ukraine war or reproductive rights. “Pro-Depp” and “anti-Heard” content in particular has gained traction online; from hashtags such as #amberheardisapsycopath [sic] trending on Twitter to lip syncs mocking Heard’s abuse testimony going viral on TikTok.

Dozens of sites are currently running thousands of Facebook ads capitalising on the trial, which has seen harrowing testimonies and allegations of physical, sexual and emotional abuse from both sides. The adverts are part of an ecosystem of ad supported “news” sites, bogus content platforms and click-bait websites which facilitate the spread of misleading, false and polarising content.

Media non-profit the Citizens analysed data from the Facebook ad library, which discloses estimates of how much pages spend on adverts. The analysis shows how the Daily Wire sought to capitalise on the hype around the trial to draw readers to its site while pushing its conservative agenda. Two of the ads are still being promoted now, and have been running for the past fortnight.

One ad promotes an article titled, “The Attempted Character Assassination of Johnny Depp”, which says that “the only negative words written about the Hollywood A-lister came from the occasional film critic. Until he married Amber Heard.” The article included false claims.

It mentions a previous court case, when Depp sued British tabloid newspaper The Sun for libel after it labelled him a “wife beater” in relation to Heard’s allegations of domestic abuse – a case that Depp lost. The article said that, “Depp was able to disprove 12 of Heard’s 14 allegations” but “because proving a negative is nearly impossible, the judge in the case branded him a ‘monster’ and refused to accept his claims.” In reality the judge said it was more likely than not that 12 out of the 14 instances of abuse alleged had occurred. Evidence presented during the trial showed how both Depp and Heard had referred to Depp as having a “monster” side to his personality, with the judge quoting this term in his judgment.

The Daily Wire and Facebook were contacted for comment in response to this article and had not responded at the time of publication. After VICE World News contacted the Daily Wire an editor’s note was added to “The Attempted Character Assassination of Johnny Depp”, stating “A previous version of this article incorrectly stated Depp was able to disprove 12 of the 14 allegations against him. It has been corrected to note he was not able to disprove 12 of the allegations.”

The Daily Wire spent an estimated $20,000 to $25,000 on the advert promoting this article - about half of its total spend on ads about the trial.

The ad was promoted on the Facebook page of right-wing commentator Owens, who has 5.4 million Facebook followers and is the former communications director of conservative non-profit Turning Point USA. Owens wrote, “I hope Johnny Depp bankrupts Amber Heard with his lawsuit. It has been absolutely ridiculous to see what that woman has been allowed to do because she flew under the radar of the MeToo movement. Amber Heard is the perfect example of what I refer to as ‘toxic femininity’.” The ad got three million impressions on Facebook and Instagram.

The Daily Wire spent between $10,700 and $15,799 promoting another article that gives a partial account of the trial. “The 14 Most Shocking Revelations In The Johnny Depp, Amber Heard Defamation Trial” is linked to by Owens’s page along with a post describing herself as “squarely team Depp,” while another ad from the Daily Wire’s own page to the story calls the trial as “must-see TV.”

The article repeatedly reports Depp’s claims while barely mentioning Heard’s, with 11 of the 14 “revelations” framed in favour of Depp. It leads with the allegation made by Depp that Heard defecated in their bed after a fight; a claim which resulted in hackers changing the actor’s name on IMDB to “Amber Turd”. The story does not reference Heard’s counterclaim that the faeces was their dog’s. One of the “revelations” acknowledges that “Depp didn’t completely come across as a victim” in an audio clip where he referenced beating Heard, but emphasises that Depp denied this and insisted she was the abuser.

At the very bottom of the article, readers are told, “The views expressed in this piece are the author’s own and do not necessarily represent those of The Daily Wire”.

The Daily Wire has also been promoting videos on Facebook. “Amber Heard is at fault,” Owens said in one such video. “This man [Depp] lost his entire career based on allegations absent of a shred of evidence,” said Owens, contradicting the judgment of the UK court which ruled that 12 allegations of abuse by Depp towards Heard more likely than not did occur. “It is everything that I say is wrong with the MeToo movement. It is emblematic of the idea that women should just magically be believed,” added Owens.

Michael Knowles, another commentator whose video is advertised on Facebook by the Daily Wire under the title “LOL: This is The BEST Moment From The Johnny Depp Vs. Amber Heard Trial” says Heard is “obviously a complete lunatic”, but also blames Depp for not taking “control of his household,” asking “whatever happened to strong men?” The thumbnail image for the video ad shows Knowles laughing and pointing, alongside photos from court of Depp laughing, and Heard looking tearful.

The Daily Wire was founded in 2015 by Shapiro, a political commentator and former editor of Breitbart News, and film director turned commentator Jeremy Boreing. Media Matters, a US watchdog, has accused the Daily Wire of “bigotry and hatred,” spreading climate change denial, misogyny and homophobia.

The Daily Wire is “at the border of news and disinformation,” said Nandini Jammi, co-founder of adtech industry watchdog Check My Ads. The site “will have a handful of stories that are more or less technically accurate, and then the rest of them are indefensible… But they continue to get away with it,” she said. Media Matters, a US watchdog, has described the Daily Wire as “a cesspool of bigotry and hatred” citing examples of racism, sexism and anti-abortion extremism.

Jammi described identifying and weighing in on narratives with high engagement on social media as “a tried and true playbook that all the disinformation websites that pose as conservative websites are using now as part of their business model.”

The ongoing Depp-Heard case in Virginia has been low hanging fruit for such operations.

Heidi Beirich, co-founder of the Global Project Against Hate and Extremism said the Daily Wire “feeds into” misogynistic sentiments of its readership by attacking Amber Heard. "This particular publication is a very successful conduit of material from the far extremes and mainstreaming it into the conservative circles," she said.

In recent years, the Daily Wire has often had close to double the engagements on Facebook of any of its competitors. But it has also broken the rules. A 2019 investigation by Popular Information uncovered a network of 14 large Facebook pages that exclusively promote content from the Daily Wire, without their pages revealing their connection to the outlet – appearing to violate Facebook’s rules in the process. The Daily Wire and Facebook did not respond when asked if the Daily Wire’s actions violated Facebook’s terms of service.

Matt Rivitz, co-founder of social media activism campaign group Sleeping Giants, said Facebook’s business model was “tearing us apart as a society.” “The louder and more obnoxious and more conspiratorial content is, the more engagement it's going to get,” which in turn increases cash flow from the advertising they get from the clicks, he said.

Sleeping Giants was launched in reaction to the hateful content found on Breitbart News in 2016. Disavowed even by other Conservative outlets for its white nationalist content, Breitbart News (with Steve Bannon at the helm) threw its weight behind Donald Trump and his style of politics during the 2016 US Presidential Election campaign. Its headlines have included “Donald Trump’s Criticisms of Mass Mexican Immigration Barely Scratch the Surface” and “Why White People Seek Black Privilege.”

According to Jammi of Check My Ads, social media users are in a “symbiotic relationship” with outlets like the Daily Wire, which benefit financially from users peddling controversial content. Social media users provide “relevancy to a narrative that is very lucrative” for sites like the Daily Wire which are motivated to publish more content around it. This in turn gives social media users a sense of legitimacy to continue posting these narratives on platforms like Facebook and Twitter.

Rivitz said the only way to change this pattern is for social media companies like Facebook to stop rewarding engagement over quality and facts. “But right now they’re not doing that as their job.”

“The ultimate outcome of this is the demonisation of women,” said Beirich of the Global Project Against Hate and Extremism reflecting on the Depp and Heard case and how online activity can directly translate into violence against women and misogynistic terrorism. “Women face a completely different online milieu and offline milieu than men do.”

This story was published in collaboration with media non-profit the Citizens.

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posted May 20, 2022 10:59 AM            

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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
It's tempting to go with the victim and abuser scenario, but I believe they definitely brought out the worst in each other and both of them were abusive in this relationship. Both of them have a volatile Mars in aspects, his Virgo Mars conjunct Uranus and her Libra Moon square Capricorn Mars. Both were triggered by the placements of the other. His Capricorn Moon triggered her Moon/Mars square and her Sagittarius Saturn triggered his Mars/Uranus. His Capricorn Moon squaring her Libra Moon seems to be fitting for two people that end up grabbing each other by the trhoat.

To me it looks like they got into a massive power struggle were both of them were causing the other a lot of pain. They have a mutable grand square in synastry with her natal t-square with Gemini Chiron opposite Sagittarius Saturn square Pisces Jupiter being completed by his natal Pisces Chiron opposite Virgo Pluto.

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It is tempting indeed, because there is a lot of truth to it.

But even more so when you factor in not just all the physical and mental abuse during the relationship itself, but that at some point when she realized that the relationship was going to go south, she deliberately came up with a plan to frame him as a wife beater and horrible human being, and started to constantly take photographs and videos of him at his worse moments.

And then used makeup to fake a bruise (which she did not have literally the next day), used the public, front entrance to the court (celebrities NEVER do that btw--courts in LA have side and underground entrances for them), notified the media ahead of time, and got a retraining order while he was away in Spain. All carefully crafted to sell a story of her being a victim.

This woman is next level, borderline almost sociopathic, and yes, is indeed the abuser in the situation because she deliberately used lies, manipulations, etc to try to ruin a person's life, while trying to make off like a bandit materially. A person she claimed to once love, which makes it extra messed up. She even lied to the public and to children hospitals about how she was going to donate a bunch of money to same.

When people have strong Libra in their charts, they sometimes have a tendency to try to see things fairly and objectively as possible. I know, because I have Libra Moon. But this can be taken too far. Sometimes a spade is just a friqqin spade. and there is something extremely off about A.H.

Did you hear the tape of her denigrating Depp and cackling like a hyena constantly, trying as hard as she could to push his buttons?

And even towards the end of things, there is a recording of Depp saying essentially, I'll try to help you out, we'll explain to the world that the media blew this up into a crap storm, etc, and then she mocks and taunts him after this compassion, saying, well go ahead and tell the world that you, a man, are a victim of domestic abuse and see if they believe you (over me).

I don't know how people cannot see her extreme negativity and borderline almost evil energy (evil being defined by a severe lack of affective empathy and conscience). She was the embodiment of his Saturn in the 7th to almost an nth degree.

Depp didn't bring out the worst in her--he stopped playing her games and by her rules and it infuriated her. People forget that she was accused by a former partner (a female) of domestic abuse, and Depp hadn't been though he was known to have a temper which he took out on stuff and sometimes on paparazzi (for example, paparazzi taking pictures of his kids, etc infuriated him after he would ask them to stop, and if they wouldn't, he would indeed get pretty physical and aggressive--but honestly, I don't completely blame him).

posted May 20, 2022 11:04 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
The Daily Wire Spent Thousands of Dollars Promoting Anti-Amber Heard Propaganda

The conservative media outlet ran Facebook and Instagram ads for stories backing Johnny Depp, an investigation by media non-profit the Citizens for VICE World News found.

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Boy, you're acting extremely woke right now Teasel. Why does politics and left right b.s. need to enter this discussion?

posted May 20, 2022 11:34 AM            

I doubt all these people, myself included, are being influenced by the sources you are talking about. Your obsession with keeping the left right polarization alive and kicking is quite curious. Little do you know, that you're playing into the hands and plans of the psychopathic plutocrats and of the negative non humans that influence them and this world. They want us commoners as as divided and polarized as possible, and you are perpetuating that cycle just as much as all the people here who call people on the left things like libtards, etc.

Well, in any case, I believed A.H. for a hot minute way back when. Why, because she is a woman and Depp a man, and because I knew very little about them in general and that initial, edited video did highlight a definite temper of J.D.

posted May 20, 2022 12:21 PM            

My impression of Amber is not just based on her chart, but also on her body language, her personality type (Amber estp vs. Johnny infp) and past behavior. What I consistently see in her body language is anger that she has a hard time hiding. She shows this anger and bad temper not only when dealing with Johnny, but also on other occasions:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP3iXlwzNoo&t=48s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sKyN0_D_ec

There is a very good YouTube channel about body language experts who look at each of her facial expressions as if under a microscope. "The Behavior Panel". You can find it here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_74iB13Bct8

Her chart has more than one red flag. The first thing I see is Pluto opposite North Node. Pluto (or Mars) opposite South Node is very common in people who are aggressive, violent, dictatorial or at worst criminals. It's an excellent position for the military or sport because it allows anger to be channeled, but it causes problems in daily life and can even portend a violent death and accidents.

The second thing I see in her chart is Mars conjunct Neptune. Her actions get blurred and the chart owner has ususally trouble directing his anger in the right direction. There is also Pluto opposite her sun which leads to conflicts in interpersonal realtionships and creates difficulties for her to express her strong ego in a safe way.

Johnny's Neptune is opposite her sun sign which means that he had no clear understanding who she really was at the beginning of their relationship. He had an idealized vision of Amber. Her chiron is conjunct his sun sign in Gemini which can point to verbal abuse. It's usually the underdeveloped chiron person who hurts the sun sign person. I had this aspect (Chiron-sun) with one person and had to end the relationship. Let's just say, I've never been hurt so deeply and it took me years to recover.