posted August 09, 2016 07:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Violets:
It's really horrifying to me how many people feel the right to sit back from their living rooms or wherever, and judge whether or not a woman has been abused. Just stop.

I have no opinion on it whatsoever, but really. Look at their charts if you must, if it's that fascinating to you (it's of minimal interest to me), but please stop playing armchair detective, it's gross.

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I'm with you 100%. I've been through abuse on all sides and never once did I report it or press any charges. Abuse changes a persons mental state, it makes them fearful. I don't care if this is an astrology site, no one has the right to judge this situation except for the people involved.

posted August 09, 2016 10:47 PM            

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
I don't think this thread is out of bounds, it has been intelligent discussion of a sensitive topic and shouldn't be censored. We need to explore the issue of abuse holistically, not taking sides, but seeing very very clearly

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posted August 10, 2016 05:21 AM            

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Originally posted by stillatlarge:
http://www.tmz.com/2016/08/09/amber-heard-deposition-refused-cried/

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posted August 10, 2016 05:24 AM            

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Originally posted by stillatlarge:
Where did I project an opinion? I posted a link to the only news there's been. You just don't happen to like the facts reported and don't WANT the astrology to apply.

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posted August 10, 2016 04:10 PM            

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Originally posted by stillatlarge:
Where did I project an opinion? I posted a link to the only news there's been. You just don't happen to like the facts reported and don't WANT the astrology to apply.

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Life doesn't happen with one post. Of course whatever development of the story can be argued one way or another. And I'm not entirely certain she didn't exaggerate ... But hey, you can pin it down to one post, one link that you post and pretend you don't know all the other ones if you want and pump up this thread up again.

posted February 07, 2020 07:19 AM            

Amber Heard admits ‘hitting’ ex-husband Johnny Depp in explosive audio confession

And she was taunting him too: "No one will believe you!"

Kind of support my astrological analysis on their synastry when this first came out years ago.

I am not posting any links because it has been all over the net for the past 2 days.

posted February 07, 2020 07:52 AM            

"an internet researcher"

Really?

That's a role worthy of merit and dignity?

posted February 07, 2020 02:28 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
She is claiming he was abusive.

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Thing is, and nothing is 100% certain, but, I get the feeling she's trying to milk it for all its worth,
and actually antagonize him to the point of going off. Not saying it's good on either account, and I'm no big fan of either, but there's something seemingly slimy and vindictive about her own way of going about it. They've both got their fair share of issues so I'm not even gonna pick a side...

posted February 07, 2020 03:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
Bumping this old thread in light of new tape evidence released on this case:

[b]Amber Heard admits ‘hitting’ ex-husband Johnny Depp in explosive audio confession

And she was taunting him too: "No one will believe you!"

Kind of support my astrological analysis on their synastry when this first came out years ago.

I am not posting any links because it has been all over the net for the past 2 days.

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I almost bumped this thread myself, because I'm ****** that I believed her. I know that women can be abusive: I've dealt with it myself.

posted February 07, 2020 04:12 PM              

But for some reason, I decided to tune into the situation more deeply and intuitively. I looked at some pics of her, and my spidy senses picked up STRONG vibes of a malignant narcissist type from Heard.

These I know from both experience, observation, and research tend to be manipulative, deceptive, and selfish as all heck.

But it wasn't a matter that I thought much about. Before the release of this latest stuff, there was releases of text messages from Heard's parents to Depp and back.

Truly, f'ing bizarre--especially when one keeps in mind that these were sent AFTER the alleged abuse. Now, if I had a daughter who I truly felt and thought was being abused by a guy, I would 1., be pretty angry towards him, and 2., likely cut off all contact and STRONGLY advise my daughter to do the same. I might even tell the guy via a phone conversation some strong words about never contacting my daughter again.

Instead, these folks were saying things like, I love you Johnny, I hope things can work out between you and Amber, it's the lawyers fault for it going in this direction, etc, etc. They were urging him to contact Amber to work things out, and Depp repeatedly had to tell them, I cannot legally do so (almost like they were trying to get him to break a court order).

Personally, my sense is that all 3 saw Depp has a giant walking/talking $. I think all 3 were involved in setting in him up. The whole thing stinks to high heaven. I think they are all conniving, slow vibratory, very spiritually immature people, and fairly often to notice a pattern, the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree.

The interesting fact is that before all this, and before they were together, Heard previously had charges against her for domestic violence towards a former female partner. This alone, should have been given the Heard support crowd some pause for thought. It's borderline amazing to me how so few people listen to their deeper gut or pineal gland intuitions about people though.

Astrologically-- Depp has Saturn in his 7th. One of the potential meanings/possibilities of this (especially if other patterns of the chart support it), is attracting/being attracted to slower vibratory, unusually selfish and/or materialistic types.

posted February 07, 2020 09:02 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I almost bumped this thread myself, because I'm ****** that I believed her. I know that women can be abusive: I've dealt with it myself.

So, I was ****** , but I also realized that as I scrolled through twitter quickly, and posts on facebook, posts on another board, too - I hadn't seen one person ask why he held onto evidence for so long. Did he have that four years ago? Why didn't he play it then? That's what women deal with all the time.

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Good question.

He seemed to have been in love with her to put up with her BS. Maybe he was hoping she would recant her stories and make things right. Maybe he was holding onto the idea that they could reconcile, since her mom had texted him to say that it was the lawyers who were making Amber say those things, that she didn't really want to.

And all those years he watched his star and reputation take a beating, and he became a pariah, while she went on her merry way and got roles in Hollywood.

posted February 07, 2020 09:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
Good question.

He seemed to have been in love with her to put up with her BS. Maybe he was hoping she would recant her stories and make things right. Maybe he was holding onto the idea that they could reconcile, since her mom had texted him to say that it was the lawyers who were making Amber say those things, that she didn't really want to.

And all those years he watched his star and reputation take a beating, and he became a pariah, while she went on her merry way and got roles in Hollywood.

Also he strikes me as being a very private person. With moon in the south node, he likes to keep his emotions private.

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posted February 07, 2020 09:58 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
I can’t believe people actually thought he beat her. He doesn’t seem like the type.

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I thought there was an assault charge against him, from a crew member. Truth, or someone else looking to gain from his problems?

posted February 07, 2020 10:02 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
When I initially saw the video and heard about all this, I initially leaned towards thinking Heard was likely telling the truth.

But for some reason, I decided to tune into the situation more deeply and intuitively. I looked at some pics of her, and my spidy senses picked up STRONG vibes of a malignant narcissist type from Heard.

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She sounds just like my sister, but I don't think of her as a malignant narcissist. She saw a therapist, who thought she had a psychotic break. I wanted to go to therapy with her, try to work it all out. She wouldn't do it. She saw a therapist, once she had moved to Canada, but that was for something else.

posted February 08, 2020 01:49 AM              

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Originally posted by teasel:
She sounds just like my sister...

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It would be very interesting and perhaps enlightening to see/figure out what the other life connections are between you two. I suspect it's not pretty in the slightest bit.

Whatever the case, I'm sorry to hear that she has treated you unkindly and poorly at times. She sounds like she has a lot of self love issues. People that truly love/accept themselves, and who truly know some measure of happiness, rarely ever mistreat others like she has done to you.

posted February 08, 2020 03:37 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I almost bumped this thread myself, because I'm ****** that I believed her. I know that women can be abusive: I've dealt with it myself.

So, I was ****** , but I also realized that as I scrolled through twitter quickly, and posts on facebook, posts on another board, too - I hadn't seen one person ask why he held onto evidence for so long. Did he have that four years ago? Why didn't he play it then? That's what women deal with all the time.

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Claims from johnny that she hit him are not news. I'm not one to follow celeb news, but I remember I read on a website right at the start of their battle that johnny said she had thrown some large object like a pot or something at him, and it has caused him injuries and that she had assaulted him physically a few more times.

But did he really hit her? With him being an addict (alcohol and/or drugs) that is not so hard to imagine.

A person can be both kind and have a big heart and be physically abusive. I like johnny's acting and personality but I don't think he's a saint. I also remember reading around the same time that winona had also said that johnny was abusive physically and the main reason why they split.

Strangely I think the couple (Johnny and Amber) really did love each other and had some pretty hot intercourse, but not sure they either had classy characters to keep that mars heat between them only in the bedroom and it finally made their couple fights violent.

She being a Taurus most probably wants to benefit the as much as she can from this divorce, and I also sense strong capricorn vibes from her.

posted February 08, 2020 05:40 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
I have moon conjunct SN, too, and used to be the same way. I kept a lot to myself, until I needed to ask for help.

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In Depp's case, Amber had her powerful mars on his moon which gives her the upper hand in terms of who is hurting who, and also when they got together, transit pluto was making a conjunction to those aspects!!

posted February 21, 2020 01:32 AM              

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Originally posted by astrosaz:
So many men do not report domestic abuse for fear they wont be believed or mocked and that is exactly what happened to Johnny Depp. His reputation, career, assets, money, passion torn apart, lost, questioned... He almost let her destroy his career because he didn't have the strength to defend himself but in the end he has found it. I remember people campaigning for him to be removed from the Harry Potter Spin Off Franchise whilst Amber was cast in Aquaman and landing beauty deals with Loreal. I hope they both get individual help and I really truly hope this opens peoples eyes to domestic abuse effecting BOTH genders.

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I don't think it was that, but because he was in love with her, and didn't see her for what she truly is--someone with a malignant narcissistic personality.

Despite her shenanigans before and after, he was protecting her at detriment to himself. Like I said, Leo Rising and big, overly naive heart.

Been there, done that, have the t-shirt. I still sometimes trust too easy and see overmuch good in people while not fully seeing their shadow side--especially when my heart gets involved (i.e. romance, friendship etc).