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MahaKali
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posted June 05, 2016 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MahaKali     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder, what do you think, what can indicate that person will never get married or will live with someone without papers, what placements, aspects?

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ilunatique
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posted June 05, 2016 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Marriage is a "norm" for most of us because everywhere we are told that the normal life cycle is:
go to school, then college, then work for the ones that control us to fuel them, -(marry and have kids)-optional, die.

I honestly don't get the point of it. There is Love between you two, a connection. A deep one that nothing else can surpass.
You don't need a piece of paper to prove it. But for some, it does.

There are many reasons why people do it, its personal and various. Most consider it mandatory. I dont. But still, at its core its this norm thing that everyone wants to achieve in order to be a so called "perfect citizen". Because what beautiful home has an umarried couple? They must be some weirdos

I understand that through the ages people kept doing it and we still do it. I guess its something social. Its a beautiful ceremony, you make this bond "official". But come on, it was and is there forever with or without marrying.

In my country for example (and its pretty medieval in here), you are considered stupid for not marrying. Deranged. **** or whatever. Or if you adopt a kid, something is wrong with your head. You must stick to the norm and be it so you can be accepted by others. Pretty sad.


No more bla bla bla.


I am Uranus dominant, first house in Aqua
Mars conjunct Neptune exact 1st
Sag sun
Fixed cross with URANUS, SATURN, MOON, MERCURY
Moon in 7th. its emotions not papers..

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Piscean Tigress
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posted June 05, 2016 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Piscean Tigress     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think Sag and Aqua solar sign and Asc
Empty 7th house
Moon unnaspected or in hard aspect to Saturn, Venus, Uranus
Venus in hard aspect to Uranus

EDIT. Pisces Sun
Asc Sag conjunct Neptune
Moon opposite Asc and Neptune
Venus opposite Uranus.

Never married or live with a partner, even I have a long time relationship (20 years)

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Delilah423
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posted June 05, 2016 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah423     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, in my case, I've always "blamed" Uranus in the 7th.

EDIT: And perhaps the fact that Saturn opposes my Moon/NN/4th House Cusp.

EDIT #2: And if Piscean Tigress is correct, I also have a Sag ASC.

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MahaKali
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posted June 05, 2016 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MahaKali     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ilunatique just like you read my mind, I always will say - I can lIve without papers cause it really means nothing to me, don't need papers to prove my love to someone, but people are different and most of them will follow the 'rules'.

I have Venus in Aqua, conjunt my Saturn, maybe it can say something. Also empty 7th with its ruler Venus in 4th house, most dominant sign in my chart is Aquarius, maybe it's a key.

Also, there's something else, I don't want to have children, don't hate kids ofc, but don't see myself like a mother, have some other plans. But will not say never, maybe one day will change it. I have empty 5th house in Pisces and Moon as a ruler in 4th, so maybe it's weird why I don't want kids but.. am I only freak here?

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posted June 05, 2016 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lehia2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Delilah423:
[B]Well, in my case, I've always "blamed" Uranus in the 7th.

Uranus (and Jupiter) in the 7th here - (almost) 33 y/o, traveller, single, no boyfriend, no worries - because I turned out to be quite picky as well

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posted June 05, 2016 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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MahaKali
Ilunatique just like you read my mind, I always will say - I can lIve without papers cause it really means nothing to me, don't need papers to prove my love to someone, but people are different and most of them will follow the 'rules'.

I have Venus in Aqua, conjunt my Saturn, maybe it can say something. Also empty 7th with its ruler Venus in 4th house, most dominant sign in my chart is Aquarius, maybe it's a key.

Also, there's something else, I don't want to have children, don't hate kids ofc, but don't see myself like a mother, have some other plans. But will not say never, maybe one day will change it. I have empty 5th house in Pisces and Moon as a ruler in 4th, so maybe it's weird why I don't want kids but.. am I only freak here?



And you read my mind too. I dont want kids either. I wanted to edit and add that.

Like, give birth to one. No thanks. I would rather adopt. I so want to. Why bring a kid in this fked up world when you can help one that is already here? WHY?

Oh..norm again. Or all your girl friends have babies. You should too. You dont? You have a problem. You dont love your husband. I get it that some women feel that they need to fullfill this function, and its amazing to me.....but adoption is considered like....just an option for people that cant have babies. And its not ok.

Or.. look it has my eyes and it likes maccaroni just like me! I met and know so many women in my country - again, that use their kids like an accessory or extension of their own ego. Again so sad.

Aqua power it seems

Love to all


EDIT: having a baby would be nice tho. it takes most of my bad karma :P

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Sikanda
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posted June 05, 2016 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sikanda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do agree about that. I am not married and I don't have a boyfriend. But if I ever do, I'd rather live with that person and that's it, but not really marry him. That is not a priority of mine.
If we ever got married it would be in case we had kids, to legalise the situation in order to make it better for them. But not out of sheer interest for getting married.

Edit: I have nothing against adoption and I think it great helping other kids who are having a hard time. But somehow in the end you don't feel like they are really your kids. They will probably one day go and try to look for their true family, which is not yours. That's what I think is the point of view of people to bring kids into this world. Because you want to feel the vinculation, you want to feel them yours, I believe.

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posted June 05, 2016 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DualGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Single guy here, I don't plan on it.

Mercury is prevalent in my chart and I would rather learn, create and explore new things in my type of work.

The tech field changes within 5yrs, so you have 5 yrs to learn the next upcoming thing.

That's sufficient time as long as you have a good hindsight of whats coming and you plan accordingly.

If you don't or you slow down you lose your competitiveness.

That's why I have conflicts with the rest of my family members they always ask me when are you going to get married?

They don't understand the concept of trying to upgrade and stay ahead as best as you can, if you don't you lose out.

My sister has 3 kids and its such a burden on her.

I'm getting comfortable with being the far away single uncle that treats them when ever I vist.

Its almost a norm whenever I vist my sisters, I buy dinner and already have presents for each of her children.

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Gemini Sun,
Capricorn Rising
Aries Moon
Gemini Mercury
Venus Taurus
Mars Cancer

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PixieJane
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posted June 05, 2016 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Having helped raise 2 kids since one was 12 and the other 7 (I knew them a few months before that), one now 13, the other now entering community college, I have found it an incredible experience, and I do feel that, on some level, they are mine. The love, the anxiety, and intense stress I sometimes endured to make sure they got what I felt they needed, is indescribable. And it was an incredible experience the one time I felt the boy was immediately threatened, how I got up without thinking to confront the danger, and my life meant nothing, I was completely selfless at that point who would not have hesitated to die to protect him if that was what was required (it's hard to explain as I was operating on "automatic" at that point, my state of consciousness altered, and it's so odd to remember my mind at that moment). Their safety is a concern of mine, and the thought of them being hurt fills me with far more dread than the thought of myself being hurt.

I helped their mother to raise them. I never expected them to "give up the memory of their father" or anything like that. When the boy had a dream that made me think he should have some contact with the father's family, I advocated to his mother that he do so (it was her who was so adamant against that) and did not feel at all threatened or lessened by it, and when that didn't happen, I even looked about for some adult male role models to look up to (until I realized he had plenty already).

So I personally don't see how adopted kids are less than biological, and I feel like I've done the right thing in helping to raise kids who are already here rather than bringing even more into a world that will surely know a world war (or some other great global disaster) due to human overpopulation. And I intensely feel the positive difference I made (and am making) in their lives.

Astrological wise, I could see someone with a powerful Cancer and Scorpio placements finding the blood connection too important to overlook, but I like to think everyone else could learn to love those who are not of their own bodies as if they were...not unlike animals who have even adopted species not of their own as one of their own babies (and would normally eat in other situations).

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PixieJane
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posted June 05, 2016 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For what it's worth, I'll add that I wish that society went back to matrilinear surnames. I see the father's last name as being a vestige of a time when women were property with the rights of the man passed down to sons through a woman (and any females born of her his property as well, including to barter off to others). Overall, it seems to be better for women and children both, and no child growing up ashamed or mistreated for not having a father's surname.

That might be my Sag stellium sextile Libra sun and stellium at work.

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diamondbaby
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posted June 05, 2016 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for diamondbaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Women: Moon and/or Venus in Aquarius
Men: Sun and/or Mars in Aquarius

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StubbornVirgo
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posted June 06, 2016 06:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll be 30 in a few years and I've never been married. Still relatively young I suppose, but considering most people my age in my area are married with 2 kids, I manage to fall outside the norm.

I have a busy 7th house, funny enough - Sun, Mercury, and Venus. (So maybe it will happen, who knows?) I have had other things on my mind for years, which is probably why I missed the high school and college marrying frenzy. I'm not opposed to long term partnerships that don't involve tying the knot.

Kids? Maybe. My 4th house Moon and Mars admires the traditional family bonds, but I would be okay with adopting, too. I will say that I would prefer to be (happily) married if kids are in the picture.

No quoting please.

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posted June 06, 2016 08:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for diamondbaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting, I know this woman who has Sun/Mercury/Venus in the 7th house, she has never been in any kind of relationship before and she has no plans to get married and/or have kids. Looking at her chart one would think she thrives on relationships and is really sociable (air dominant chart with a good amount of planets in air houses) but like I said she is pretty much a lone wolf and has no interest in relationships. Also, I know two other women (they are both in their 60s) who never got married and never had kids. One is a Gemini Sun/Libra Moon and the other is a Libra Sun/Scorpio Moon.

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posted June 06, 2016 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Uranus conjunct IC, trine my Sun and BML, and sextile my Moon.

Until I met my husband (I was 33 at the time, and had been in a few long-term relationships), I had ZERO desire to get married, or even necessarily live with someone.

I had a situation that worked for me, we lived a few blocks away from each other.
But that was an on/off relationship that lasted waaayyyy past its time, so.

I think Uranus and probably Aquarius, the standard, typical stuff. BML thrown in for women is probably a good one, too.

I've been married for six years in September, and I still haven't changed my last name. I have no interest in it, but my Leo husband's feelings are, I think, deeply hurt by the fact that I don't want to...you know, give up the name I was born with.

So I keep it under consideration, but if I change it legally it will be hyphenated with my maiden name.

I don't understand people who are baffled by my feelings on these things, lol.


My husband also has strong Uranus in his chart, and although he's more inclined towards marriage than I am, we both have separate spaces in the house, and then rooms where we all hang out, etc. We need our personal space, and don't mind giving it to each other within our home (his Uranus is conjunct his MC/BML).

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posted June 06, 2016 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Sorry to write a book there.

But I'll add that I also don't wear a traditional wedding ring, as I don't particularly care much for that type of thing. I wear a ring that my grandma had promised to me when I was a little girl, and that's my wedding ring. I prefer it that way. I also wear a silver-garnet ring on the same finger, so I double up on it, ha.

My husband had a slim, silver ring but it got lost because he can't stand the feeling of a ring on any of his fingers, so we're fine with him wearing one around his neck as a necklace.

He has Mars/NN conjunct in Aquarius, and we both have strong Uranus natally.

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posted June 06, 2016 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ I didn't think of BML, tbh. I have BML in Sag conjunct my MC. Maybe that explains it.

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posted June 06, 2016 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People don't get married solely for emotion's sake ("SOME"), there's legal benefits involved which is probably more of a reason people do than they'd like to admit.

A triple Cancer I know won't ever get married, Moon in Leo, Venus in Gemini. He doesn't want kids either.

In my head I want to get married, feel normal, but in reality I don't think I would do well with it. Triple Aries, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune in the 7th house.

However, I wouldn't mind adopting children someday. I never saw a difference between having your own and adopting one since you love them just the same. Plus I can already empathize with pregnant women, it wouldn't be some life changing ordeal for me, and I live for those.

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posted June 06, 2016 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sikanda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@pixiejane and hannaramaa
Ok, I see. But for me I think it would be a very meaningful experience to have my own kids.
Astrologically I might be Plutonian, who knows, and traditionalist. After all, Scorpio is on my 7th house cusp (which in my case contains Saturn in Sagittarius) and venus/pluto conjunct descendant.

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posted June 06, 2016 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Violets:

Until I met my husband (I was 33 at the time, and had been in a few long-term relationships), I had ZERO desire to get married, or even necessarily live with someone.


I still haven't changed my last name. I have no interest in it


I was the same way for years, although every so often I would feel a pang, and wonder when it would happen for me. I didn't want to be dating a lot, just to weed someone out - I was hoping to just meet someone (I haven't had that much relationship experience, and now see the value in dating a bit, which I wouldn't have minded, but I know people who treat it like a second full-time job).

I have Uranus conjunct ascendant, trine Mars, inconjunct Moon, Venus, and SN. It also widely opposes my Sun. I need a certain amount of space, so I'd have to be extremely comfortable with someone, to spend a good amount of time around them.

At the same time, I've been thinking about how much I used to get done, and I think it was because I had company (to a point) in the house, and we would have company over at times. I've spent so much time alone, or just cooped up, that I crave time outside and around people, sometimes with them, but mostly just with one or two people I know (like my parents, although I'd love for my friends to actually be here).

I wouldn't mind getting married if I felt really strongly for someone, but I'm also not sure I want to change my name. I was on OKCupid once, and when it came to the question about a partner changing their name when married, I said something like, "Well, he could change his name if he wants to."

Maybe the Aries Sun has something to do with that as well. My Cappy sister wanted to get married, wanted the last name, and the whole shebang. I was annoyed when I found something sent to mum, but with my *dad's* initials and last name, "Mrs Teasel's Dad" rather than, "Teasel's Mum". I asked her when she stopped existing, and became just a part of my dad (who I love, and sees mum as her own person).

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posted June 06, 2016 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have BML conjunct the cusp of my 5th house, in Placidus.

The Hallmark part of my brain (Jupiter-Neptune-MC + Moon/Venus sextile Jupiter), just expected to bump into someone, get to know them, fall in love, and then somehow deal with living together. A part of me loves the idea of the partnership, and the bond - but I don't trust that easily. I've dealt with too much BS.

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posted June 06, 2016 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whatever is prevalent in Helena Bonham Carter's and Tim Burton's charts, ha. They had the perfect living arrangement, imo.

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posted June 06, 2016 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought of them, too.

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posted June 06, 2016 11:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
I thought of them, too.

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posted June 07, 2016 03:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It’s fitting that you should ask this question. As it is something I have been contemplating for a while now.

There is this belief that I have practiced for a long time; that if I can’t change my mind or be open ended, it’s all over i.e. death will follow(first internally and then eventually physically).

So everything in life filters through this lense; flawed or not. And perhaps with Saturn transiting my sign(Sag), I will have to re-examine what all this really means?

But I have always thought that if I should get married I shouldn’t feel the “committed” part , but the commitment. If that makes sense.

And so far, many of my love relationships have felt very “committed”. And perhaps even demoralizing.

I would look at Gemini-Sagittarius axis for people who do not get married. Or do not “marry” in the legal sense of the word.

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