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Topic: Sag/Pisces Jupiter/neptunes need for positivity
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Sulkyarcher Knowflake Posts: 742 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted September 13, 2016 08:19 PM
@Faith,wow, he's still alive? Power of positive thinking for ya! IP: Logged |
madelineleo23 Knowflake Posts: 190 From: Registered: Jun 2015
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posted September 14, 2016 09:40 PM
All of the Sag, Pisces, Jupiter/Neptune influenced people I know or have encountered do not do well with negativity. My grandma is a Sag with Pisces rising and her mantra is: "Think positive, don't think negative it's not worth it." She tends to ignore people aren't happy-go-lucky. She is always laughing. My one friend has Sag venus, mars and merc. She is always in a great mood even when she's dealing with a lot of bad stuff. She also doesn't like to be around solemn, humorless people. My other friend is a Pisces sun, moon and merc. While she acknowledges negative emotions she doesn't allow them to impede on her happiness. Everything is just "la la la" to her. I have a Sag rising and neptune in the 1st and while I go through depressive spells, I always bounce back. Humor and laughter is the best! IP: Logged |
Yin Knowflake Posts: 3493 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 14, 2016 10:03 PM
The denial part is key. As a Sag with Neptune conjunct Sun by about 40 min I tend to ignore bad signs in relationships and carry on until someone/something snaps me out of it. It's been a difficult thing all my life. I'm good about my professional life but staying away from negative people and overcoming my savior complex proves to be impossible. I'm drawn to misery and tend to **** those people off with my cheerfulness. IP: Logged |
cottonball Newflake Posts: 17 From: Registered: Jan 2013
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posted September 15, 2016 10:43 AM
Not to be rude but do people ask you for these truths? Or are you just volunteering them?I'm honest, but I'm also polite. IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 8390 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted September 15, 2016 05:06 PM
quote: Originally posted by madelineleo23: All of the Sag, Pisces, Jupiter/Neptune influenced people I know or have encountered do not do well with negativity. My grandma is a Sag with Pisces rising and her mantra is: "Think positive, don't think negative it's not worth it." She tends to ignore people aren't happy-go-lucky. She is always laughing. My one friend has Sag venus, mars and merc. She is always in a great mood even when she's dealing with a lot of bad stuff. She also doesn't like to be around solemn, humorless people. My other friend is a Pisces sun, moon and merc. While she acknowledges negative emotions she doesn't allow them to impede on her happiness. Everything is just "la la la" to her. I have a Sag rising and neptune in the 1st and while I go through depressive spells, I always bounce back. Humor and laughter is the best!
I can pretty much relate to that (Sag stellium here). But that's different from having a "hard time listening to harsh truths" or "not wanting to hear anything negative at all." I'm the one who has to watch my own mouth so as to not disturb the people around me. And most people say I'm too cynical (despite that the majority of times I'm wrong it's because I'm not cynical enough!), though I'm the one who will find a way to laugh about it. Just because I'm not crying in my cups about the unfairness of life doesn't mean I'm unaware of it. Humor is a coping skill for me. I also remain close to a friend who has sunk deep into depression, and I worry a lot about her. But it's possible had I not met her until after she was all chronically depressed that I might've not gotten close to her in the first place, however. I miss those days that she and I pulled some major pranks together and she was still all idealistic and hopeful about the future. I plan to be her friend to the end, but I fear that her end will be much sooner than my own with all the drinking she does. ETA: I can talk about things like how common sexual abuse and pedophilia is in a calm manner (I recognize it sucks, but I don't get all distressed talking about reality as I've gotten used to it long ago): http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/236301.html That's just an example of things I can talk about which can upset people greatly. But it's important to note that I don't rant or cry over it. Perhaps my slogan in life is, "Despite this, I remain optimistic." Also, even my dark humor disturbs people. This is the more tame version (as I don't share the much darker kind on LL) with many examples by me: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum27/HTML/000271-23.html IP: Logged |
firemoon Knowflake Posts: 79 From: Registered: Jan 2016
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posted September 15, 2016 08:33 PM
First of all, Sag and Pisces are very different energies.. The OP sounds like they're talking about one person who probably has both so why not blend it all together into one generalization? Secondly though, I can't speak for Pisces but yes this can be a weakness of Sag.. we're willing to wander full speed ahead into territory most people would classify as *risky*. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't.. but when it does it's well worth it and those people who warned against it just hate us even more for that. IP: Logged |
florence Knowflake Posts: 1233 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted September 16, 2016 03:48 AM
quote: Originally posted by Sulkyarcher: @Florence,It's possible some people are just envious or jealous of a quality you have. I find that some people who are envious/jealous of others withhold compliments sometimes. As for me, I'm a Moon square Pluto child, Chiron in Cancer in the 4th house.
It did turn out that was the case with one of my friends, I think. I would never have been able to understand what quality until she came to me in a panic asking me to help arrange her home as she had lots of guests for a party due and unbeknown to me had quite a complex to do with designing / arty things. I found it so endearing that she revealed that vulnerability to me and it had made sense of the negativity before that I burst into tears, I understood at lot then. She's sag sun/ Taurus moon and I'm Taurus sun / sag moon so it goes both ways that we wish to activate that inner quality that the other has outwardly. When I've had moon/Pluto in my progressed it's being so hard to bear but I understand there's the need for authenticity of emotions with the aspect. I probably am not very adjusted to that or it wouldn't have been so difficult for me. That makes a lot of sense with what you described that that would be in your chart. IP: Logged |
florence Knowflake Posts: 1233 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted September 16, 2016 04:07 AM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: :-/One more reason Neptunians usually end up needing a lot of time alone.
Yes, that's true. I definitely retreated from people for a long time for reasons related to that. I unplugged my phone for a year lol IP: Logged |
florence Knowflake Posts: 1233 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted September 16, 2016 04:20 AM
quote: Originally posted by BeholdAstarte: Haha ^^ totally what I was relating to @bananaz Thank you everyone for your replies, I enjoyed reading them, they are all so helpful. I thought about this topic because the other week when I was talking to a sag friend, we mentioned astrology and from his year and knowing him I guesstimated A Pluto conjunction and Scorpio placements. When I started to tell him how Pluto can alter some of the lighter, more free qualities of sag he got very uncomfortable and cut me off, just saying "jeeze ok" and I got the hint and didn't explain further. This lead me to think about my grandmother, who is also a sag, and lately everytime my dad goes over to visit (he's heavy Virgo, prominent Saturn) hell talk non stop about conspericy theories, aliens and niburo, which is very stressful to my grandmother and she made a rule now that only "positive" conversations can be discussed as to not disrupt the overall flow of the day which ****** my dad off because he doesn't see it as "negative" but as "truth" and it's upsetting to him that my grandparents would rather live "a happy yet oblivious"life than to be accepting of his idea of the "truth" and to feel possibly uncomfortable from it. he has strong Virgo, also a Pluto conjunction to the ASC, with Mars also placed 1st, he has a really hard time accepting that some people would rather just not here some of the harsh realities he likes to share, he sees it as "knowledge" and completely disassociates any feelings to his thoughts, which I guess borders on him not even realizing how cynical he can be. I can relate too with Pisces/Neptune energy and seeing the positive traits they want to see in situations/people, I know a few Pisces mooners who due to their extreme sensitivity have a really hard time hearing cold, dry words of explanation, it's almost handled defensively from my observations because the feelings are so removed.
When you put it like that, I am like that especially when I've a new business idea. Prefacing every business idea pitch with 'I know it sounds unrealistic but ..' Is starting to echo to even me. I know everything is so ethereal at that stage and I'm trying to make a raft to carry the inspiration, I don't want it to be anchored before it's got sails. With Jupiter, makes me think of the sad clown because a lot of sags I know are very optimistic but there's a two sided coin and theyre potentially very pessimistic / depressive too. Because they just hold that at bay, any pressure on it does kick in an extra defence. IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 8390 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted October 08, 2016 02:42 AM
Tonight I'm reflecting of the stuff I don't share, even jokes, on LL because it's too dark or troublesome for LL.Sag stellium here, sextile to sun and the stellium with it. I have to be positive FOR OTHER PEOPLE (not just LL). But just because I'm not saying it doesn't mean I'm not thinking it. But just cause I'm thinking it doesn't mean I'm rending my garments over it, either, the way many others would. And I'm nowhere near as grim as my Sag dad (but he's not depressed or easily upset either). IP: Logged | |