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Selenite Knowflake Posts: 1240 From: Lyra Registered: Aug 2013	posted November 06, 2016 03:26 PM quote: Originally posted by soren: that's why you were supposed to read what i said. since i know what each set has, if you block out hillary, look at the similarities in the others which are almost guaranteed to all be sharing the same aspect, and then look at hillary, you will see she doesn't share it. Right, what you were trying to do was give me a bias before letting me make a conclusion.. IP: Logged
soren Knowflake Posts: 1775 From: On a Meteor 3 parsecs from you Registered: Sep 2012	posted November 06, 2016 03:30 PM i guarantee you, for the uranus-ascendant conjunctions, if you block out hillary (because she doesn't share the energy) and block out one other person, look around at the other uranus-ascendant conjunctions. NOW leave your hand covering hillary because she is not a part of this. look at the asc-uranus conjunctions. now take your hand off of the other uranus-ascendant conjunction- and you will see- they will be exposing the exact same facial expression as the others. this isn't a bias. it's a fact finding process. IP: Logged
Selenite Knowflake Posts: 1240 From: Lyra Registered: Aug 2013	posted November 06, 2016 03:34 PM I already did that, and saw something different, so I'm disproving your proof. That's how flimsy it was in the first place. IP: Logged
FatedCinderella Knowflake Posts: 178 From: Registered: Mar 2016	posted November 06, 2016 03:35 PM quote: I compared her to all the other pictures without reading what you said, and I thought she looked similar to each group. IP: Logged
soren Knowflake Posts: 1775 From: On a Meteor 3 parsecs from you Registered: Sep 2012	posted November 06, 2016 03:36 PM well they all do share the same aspect besides hillary. so i guess you're just not able to pick up on the energy they are sharing. some people arent able to. nothing wrong with that. IP: Logged
soren Knowflake Posts: 1775 From: On a Meteor 3 parsecs from you Registered: Sep 2012	posted November 06, 2016 03:46 PM quote: Originally posted by FatedCinderella: quote: ______________________________________________________________________________________________ I compared her to all the other pictures without reading what you said, and I thought she looked similar to each group. ______________________________________________________________________________________________ Like I said. All the other people in the set are practically guaranteed to be sharing the same aspect, as I've done many many sets, and my brain after seeing 2 or 3 as I'm collecting, instantly can see the pattern of the expression they have which i've never seen before in my life. And some are more remarkable and noticeable than others. So I'm sure, that for the moon-nonagesimal set, that the group there, besides hilllary (since she is unknown her official time, cause I cant declare anything official, obviously, but i do think she is officially a virgo riser, but i can't declare it a fact,) so the whole moon-nonagesimal, for sure, share that aspect. Like I said. Don't just try it with hillary to block her out- block someone else out of the group, and see if when you unblock them, how much they resonate with the rest. But when you block out one of the people who do for sure in that group have the aspect- you got to block out hillary as well, obviously, cause then you won't get the true energy, because she isn't guaranteed whether she has it or not. So that's why you got to keep her covered the whole time for that. IP: Logged
Selenite Knowflake Posts: 1240 From: Lyra Registered: Aug 2013	posted November 06, 2016 03:51 PM quote: Originally posted by soren: well they all do share the same aspect besides hillary. so i guess you're just not able to pick up on the energy they are sharing. some people arent able to. nothing wrong with that. Or maybe you're just wrong.. But I guess it's impossible for you to be wrong, right? IP: Logged
soren Knowflake Posts: 1775 From: On a Meteor 3 parsecs from you Registered: Sep 2012	posted November 06, 2016 03:52 PM So you must go by the belief the natal is not the time you are born, and now you are biasedly supporting that belief IP: Logged
Selenite Knowflake Posts: 1240 From: Lyra Registered: Aug 2013	posted November 06, 2016 03:57 PM quote: Originally posted by soren: So you must go by the belief the natal is not the time you are born, and now you are biasedly supporting that belief Nope... I'm just saying that I saw something different than you, in an experiment where all you did was look at pictures and assert your opinion on how they were similar or different. So there's a flaw in your proof. IP: Logged
soren Knowflake Posts: 1775 From: On a Meteor 3 parsecs from you Registered: Sep 2012	posted November 06, 2016 04:00 PM Alright I got confused because you said you saw something different, you meant different then what I was trying to point out. I though you meant you looked at the uranus-conjunctions and one of them looked different than the others. Anyway if you can't see the differences in my ascendant matching thread the differences between each rising, and the similarities each rising shares with one another- then I dont expect you to see anything in the slightest on this thread. IP: Logged
soren Knowflake Posts: 1775 From: On a Meteor 3 parsecs from you Registered: Sep 2012	posted November 06, 2016 04:02 PM Cause nearly 90% and more of those people had their birth time right. You can see it IP: Logged
Selenite Knowflake Posts: 1240 From: Lyra Registered: Aug 2013	posted November 06, 2016 04:09 PM Ok, what? Just by grouping them together with a 'Cancer ASC' label, you're establishing a bias in the viewer to look for similarities, because they're all part of the same 'group' and the viewer thinks they're 'supposed' to have similarities. Many (even most) of those people in the same groups actually look nothing alike, or they're all giving neutral expressions that have nothing to do with how they look all the time, or how their energy is. Humans are designed to find consistencies in facial expressions so we can read each other, but it doesn't mean that a picture is how someone's 'energy' always is. Even in those pictures of Hillary, she looks way different in the pictures where she's making different expressions. IP: Logged
soren Knowflake Posts: 1775 From: On a Meteor 3 parsecs from you Registered: Sep 2012	posted November 06, 2016 04:11 PM actually the natal chart's energies at birth actually are the energy someone always has. and it can evidently be seen in pictures. it's for life. not facial expressions- those will change. but the energy- yes it's always the same. unless they have a progression, then it would alter it slightly, but not very much. IP: Logged
soren Knowflake Posts: 1775 From: On a Meteor 3 parsecs from you Registered: Sep 2012	posted November 06, 2016 04:19 PM i'm not trying to decieve others with my ascendant thread. if anyone actually trusts, they might find something. all i did was put pictures together of people on astrotheme who had those ascendants. it's a tool and i likely solved someone's ascendant of their friend already. it was really easy. IP: Logged
Selenite Knowflake Posts: 1240 From: Lyra Registered: Aug 2013	posted November 06, 2016 04:21 PM quote: Originally posted by soren: actually the natal chart's energies at birth actually are the energy someone always has. and it can evidently be seen in pictures. it's for life. not facial expressions- those will change. but the energy- yes it's always the same. unless they have a progression, then it would alter it slightly, but not very much. You have zero ground to stand on when you say "actually," since you're not providing anything remotely scientific.. I don't understand why you're trying to claim any of this as proof when it can't be measured accurately. It's just your opinion. And furthermore, you're saying that it can 'evidently' be seen in pictures, when you don't know if that's true or not -- you haven't given people a chance to make unbiased conclusions for themselves before asserting that your opinion is fact.. Or maybe I'm taking this too seriously.. Lol IP: Logged
soren Knowflake Posts: 1775 From: On a Meteor 3 parsecs from you Registered: Sep 2012	posted November 06, 2016 04:24 PM take a stroll through electro dgx's thread IP: Logged
soren Knowflake Posts: 1775 From: On a Meteor 3 parsecs from you Registered: Sep 2012	posted November 06, 2016 05:13 PM yes it's truly a ground breaking discovery the neptune asc picture. to actually nearly almost have real evidence, that planets effect our personality IP: Logged
soren Knowflake Posts: 1775 From: On a Meteor 3 parsecs from you Registered: Sep 2012	posted November 06, 2016 07:00 PM Alright I realized now I was wrong most likely. I know her ascendant is in a negative sign. I can easily see that. I narrowed it down back to scorpio this time, i just do not see mutability in her eye expression. Here she is with other practically verified people as scorpio rising signs i think that is what she likely might be. i just knew she definitely didnt have uranus conjunct ascendant. and i didnt really see the moon/nonagesimal on her, those were both from the 8pm time. She has a scorpio rising and mercury conjunct ascendant in her 8 Am time, as well with saturn at nonagesimal and when i went back to that picture, i guess i could see that crazy expression. here is her with virgo risers. i just do not see the mutable eyes in her that the rest share- especially the males i can see it but the girls as well. so i conclude she is likely a scorpio ris IP: Logged
soren Knowflake Posts: 1775 From: On a Meteor 3 parsecs from you Registered: Sep 2012	posted November 06, 2016 07:03 PM a mutable sign is "putting an ending" to things. you can see that in virgoans eyes. not hers. IP: Logged
soren Knowflake Posts: 1775 From: On a Meteor 3 parsecs from you Registered: Sep 2012	posted November 06, 2016 07:06 PM anyone have any input? about these two pics? i definitely see the scorp rising now.. i really couldnt before, but i shifted my mind back a bit more to normal-headed IP: Logged
soren Knowflake Posts: 1775 From: On a Meteor 3 parsecs from you Registered: Sep 2012	posted November 06, 2016 07:21 PM sat nonagesimal her and someone who has it, IP: Logged
kewf1988 Knowflake Posts: 54 From: Registered: Dec 2015	posted November 06, 2016 08:00 PM quote: Originally posted by soren: actually the natal chart's energies at birth actually are the energy someone always has. and it can evidently be seen in pictures. it's for life. not facial expressions- those will change. but the energy- yes it's always the same. unless they have a progression, then it would alter it slightly, but not very much. This. Everything has an effect on your appearance, including the outer planets (both Hillary and Bill have the Pluto Leo look as well as Trump, and their daughter Chelsea has the Pluto Libra look as well). Hillary looks like the other Virgo risings the most. Always rule out the Sun and Moon signs (as they're major influences) when looking for an ascendant unless none of the other signs fit. She does not come off as a Gemini rising at all (they're vety talkative and outgoing and do NOT come off like she does) and Scorpio is her Sun sign, and with Mercury and Venus there as well it's a huge influence. Edit: it may be Scorpio rising after all... she looks similar to all of them. IP: Logged
soren Knowflake Posts: 1775 From: On a Meteor 3 parsecs from you Registered: Sep 2012	posted November 06, 2016 08:10 PM who would have known hillary was perhaps telling the truth.. that's what i wanted, but i did not see HUGE differences from her and the people who had the saturn/mars high above the horizon, and when i looked at the saturn nonagesimal, it didn't seem strong enough, but it may have been and i didnt recognize fully. the uranus asc though and moon nonagesimal i did not see at all, i did not have any doubt that she did not have that time of having uranus asc. so i am leaving this picture here. when i originally compared her to mercury ascendant conjunctions, i said "ehh i cant tell, i'll come back to that" but i never really did, so i left it unverified. and then when i made my ascendant picture tool, i thought hey maybe i can verify her now. at first i couldn't see mutable eyes when i made this thread, i didnt notice them and now they are super apparent and i did not use that as a decidor for what i suspected her ascendant to be in. it is very apparent mutable eyes for some reason for me, must be my own energies/signs that makes them noticeable. but she definitely doesn't have those mutable eyes. so that was my bad i rushed this thread because i didn't have much experience looking at risings. so i am done with this thread but if you all want to comment feel free and i might reply, but i am fairly sure i think she is scorp rising. i initially never cared about figuring it out until someone said she couldnt be born in the AM, and that the 2:18 time might have had some credence, so i wanted to find out, and see if i could. before that i just thought the 2:18 had not even close to being official, some random guy, and so yeah. here is [top two rows] mars ascendant conjunctions. and [bottom two rows] mercury + jupiter OR venus (hard to find both) conjunctions, since that is what she has, a 1 degree merc conjunction, which is what i made for all the others, and she had venus+jupiter 4-6 degrees from her ascendant. as you look at the bottom, just take in each person's expression, including hillaries if you like. then when you look up to the mars+ascendant conjunctions, to me there is a clear difference in expression. mars is to the point, the bottom are more wonderful. when you look up, after looking down, you may or may not notice if hillary blends in with them but as you look up she DEFINITELY doesn't blend with the tops. which makes you think, maybe she does blend with the bottom, but who knows. she blends in with them 100x more than the tops, so maybe she does share the same aspects. i think she probably does. /mindmadeup IP: Logged
soren Knowflake Posts: 1775 From: On a Meteor 3 parsecs from you Registered: Sep 2012	posted November 06, 2016 08:29 PM glad we see the same things kewf. my tip to really see that she's definitely not a virgo, look at every virgo going around do not look at her because she "whether she is or is not" will throw off the energy INCASE she isnt. so quickly look take half a second and take in the expression of each virgo. if you want. then finally after you've seen a portion of them, at least take in 12 or just keep going for a solid 15 seconds or more, the more you observe and sense the virgo energy the more your mind knows what it really is, the longer you look then your mind gets accustomed and so IF there is a strange your mind will notice if you keep seeing them for a longer ammount. i'm not biasing this, so maybe you will see her as the same. thats your experience. IP: Logged
Nine Moderator Posts: 2718 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009	posted November 06, 2016 10:48 PM Scorpio with Moon in Pisces Ascendant in Aqua/Pisces/Aries IP: Logged

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