posted November 08, 2016 11:38 AM            

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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
Here's a far right winged joke.

"Doesn't she lie about everything?"

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I prefer the one of, "How do you know a politician is lying? His/Her lips are moving."

But that probably came out back in the day when politicians were seen as applicants for a job rather than as personality cults to join, and thus has little mainstream value today.

posted November 08, 2016 12:47 PM            

Third group is virgo, they all have mutable eyes, "pointing out"/ finishing things in existence. It's easy to think madonna could be similar, that's why you got to stare at the virgo risers for several seconds to really see their mutable earth energy. it like gemini is also "pointing" (their eyes), madonna is similar, but not in her ascendant.

Aqua->Gemini->Virgo risers all with madonna

Further, for the next picture is madonna with the uranus-exact-descendant conjunction she has in her aqua rising chart. Which is the time she publicly said she was born at

posted November 08, 2016 01:09 PM            

My BF is a Scorpio Riser, and like many other confirmed Scorp ASCs on here, he usually looks pained if he has to present a "false" image in pictures, as they usually scream "authenticity". If they're moody, they want to present that. To be anything other than is fake.

Scorpio Rising would put many planets, including her Sun, in the 1st - but can people say that really "know" Hillary? Her biggest critique is that she's a known flipflopper on issues and that people feel mistrustful of her. Which a lot of Scorp risers do complain about, but it's not exactly a "Sun in the 1st House" trait.

Hillary has a long background in law (Gemini/Mercury), which is all about justice (Libra) and appearances (Libra). One of her biggest scandals other than Benghazi are her personal emails - communications (Gemini)

posted November 08, 2016 01:22 PM            

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Originally posted by soren:
her scorp rising 8am chart puts her sun in the 12th

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Thank you, interesting to know. Not sure if she'd be double Neptunian though (considering her Pisces Moon).

posted November 08, 2016 04:16 PM            

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Originally posted by soren:
@athenia, using rulerships to me doesn't have much truth

here is hillary with others who share the same sun house placement from her respective 8pm-->2:18am-->8am charts. do you think the other scorps in 12th are too neptunian as well? because she looks a lot like them..

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See I gotta respectfully disagree there.. the house of the chart ruler is key in flavoring the physical look of the ASC imo. I take on the characteristics of a Scorp riser more than a Virgo simply because of my 8th house Mercury.

Yes but do those other Scorpio Suns have a Pisces Moon? I simply can't agree with Hillary being water/water/water, especially with a double Neptunian flavor given the combination of a 12th house Sun + Pisces Moon. She's not shamanic, empathetic, or in tune with the needs of the collective at all. Joni Mitchell is a Scorpio Sun/Pisces Moon (Cancer ASC supposedly) - now THERE is a woman whose life follows the traditional script of water/water/water.

Another first lady is also a Scorpio Sun/Pisces Moon... Mrs Laura Bush. Supposedly a Taurus ASC. Could these two women be perceived anymore differently after occupying the same job while sharing similar placements? I think this alone convinces me that Hillary couldn't have a Venusian or water ASC.

posted November 08, 2016 04:38 PM            

For Madonna is was her image.

For Hillary it is her hair.

Both Woman love mixing it up & experimenting..