posted December 07, 2016 08:22 AM            

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Originally posted by soren:
I have no intention of trying to help him. I found out for years he was spying on me through watching this monitor from his ibook. He's a creep

On top of that when I directly confronted him about it a few years ago, he plainly said "no", i even sensed his tone that he thought he was getting away with it

If he died I would be glad

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Who is this unfortunate soul?

Anywho, I have had some time to think about this and coincidentally during a drink with friends I got a phone call from a good friend of mine.

I forgot that he actually has given me his birth-time and like you,he is Aquarius too. But his Sun is in the 2nd.

So if the house=sign,that should mean he should be very Taurus-like in nature.

Come to think of it,he is a mix of both; sometimes being impassive and at other times gets so nervous that he has become a habitual smoker.

So with this in mind, I took another look at his chart; His Mars,Moon and Mercury are in the 3rd whilst his Sun and Venus are in the 2nd.

Does his Sun in 2nd make him more Taurus? I guess so. His mother depends on him a lot and I have always assumed that maybe that could be because of his Cap Asc.

My understanding has always been that the sign where the house is in influences that house i.e With Aquarius in 2nd, security needs are tied into intellect.

Or the individual has a unique way of making money or is a collector/valuer of the eclectic and unusual.

He for instance, has a massive collection of porn as well as comic books.

And with his Sun in the 2nd,the external "expression" may have some mixture of Taurus But I also see that his intellectual aptitude is tied up to his self esteem.

So much so,that early in our friendship, I found an old journal where he would write things like "I am intelligent. I am important. I am worthy. What I say matters" etc.

So perhaps it is a mix?The energy is indeed amalgamated in a very complex but discernible way.

But more observation is warranted on my end.

posted December 07, 2016 08:27 AM            

I'm not like him at all, I don't collect anything. I collected pokemon cards though like everyone else. Cause they looked nice. But nothing else.

And no one depends on me materially for anything.

(that's a bad trait i guess haahahah)

Anyway that's cool.

posted December 07, 2016 08:46 AM            

Well anyway I'll take it.

With regards 2 my house placements,according to my birth time I have 3 Ascendants Let me explain.

The first time given was 3:15 pm- that says Taurus.

I got that verified...the astrologer came up with 2:24pm. That's Aries

And then the final verification by another was 1:44pm.Again Aries

posted December 07, 2016 08:52 AM            

Anyway,

Do you have it 100% confirmed, without the rectifyers, that your birth was in fact around those times? Or you have really no idea what time of day and so you asked them and all 3 said that?

posted December 07, 2016 09:35 AM            

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Originally posted by soren:
ok i got it. wow i remember briefly seeing a very colourful wig, and got a much different perception of you (kind of flamboyant, feminie). you look pretty cool actually hahahaha

ok i will get a 99% accurate answer for you. it could still be aries. i'll let you know

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Hey The wig and the T-shirt are great too. It was during a parade. And I wanted to look outrageous and "out of the box".

posted December 07, 2016 09:37 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Hey The wig and the T-shirt are great too. It was during a parade. And I wanted to look outrageous and "out of the box".

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Haha well it worked.

Anyway how did these rectifiers get the Aries time? Were they given a rough estimate of your actual time?

Cause right away you seem similar to them and that might be it. But at least I will be able to verify your sun house placement and i can post pics after.

posted December 07, 2016 09:50 AM            

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Originally posted by soren:
Haha well it worked.

Anyway how did these rectifiers get the Aries time? Were they given a rough estimate of your actual time?

Cause right away you seem similar to them and that might be it. But at least I will be able to verify your sun house placement and i can post pics after.

eta: yeah fairly sure you are aries rising. but i keep checking

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My mother gave me the time. I immediately opened the idea for rectification because of how unreliable her memory is.

She says that I took forever to come through and eventually decided on the 21st of December- a week after I was expected to.

Add to that, she says "early in the morning". But then gives a time that is "pm"?

posted December 07, 2016 09:54 AM            

there are further verication techniques to narrow it down further, such as house of neptune, house of moon, MH sign, all of them can easily narrow it down, i already used it on someone once and it was very obvious for each one i checked. but not sure if i want to do that but you could do it yourself (by checking pics of people with neptune in 5th, group 6 of them together, then check pics of neptune in 6th, group 6 together, you will have much more of an expression to one set, if for example your neptune was near the 5th or 6th house cusp)

posted December 07, 2016 10:42 AM            

top is sag suns in the 8th. bottom is 9th. you are an aries rising.

posted December 07, 2016 11:07 AM            

Some good looking guys around me

I think Sun in 9th still comes through. It could be because of my Sun-Neptune conjunct that confuses things a little looks-wise.

posted December 07, 2016 11:11 AM            

anyway you might be 8th in placidus but 9th in equal houses or equator zodiac (which i believe is stronger than equal)

i said how to find it out on the previous page to bonsai. find the EP and the house cusps are roughly around there. (behind it counter clockwise 30 degrees is the 12th, etc)

anyway yeah you do seem a bit like the 9th but more so like the 8th. to me.

eta: well actually i'm not sure which one. would have to really collect more pics, now that i see you said sun-neptune that might be throwing it off. you seem to possess a bit more extroversion than the suns in 8th. so its up in the air. perhaps i'll collect more pics

eta: but i look again and i alternate looking at a 9th house and see the extroversion, and then look at an 8th house who is much less. and to me you seem to be more along the lines of 8th house. there is nothing wrong with that though.

posted December 07, 2016 11:21 AM            

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Originally posted by soren:
yeah i can see the 9th a little bit too, but the 9th housers and 8th housers are clearly much different from one another, no?

anyway you might be 8th in placidus but 9th in equal houses or equator zodiac (which i believe is stronger than equal)

i said how to find it out on the previous page to bonsai. find the EP and the house cusps are roughly around there. (behind it counter clockwise 30 degrees is the 12th, etc)

anyway yeah you do seem a bit like the 9th but more so like the 8th. to me.

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Hmmm,It's a little complex Soren.

My Sun in Sag is on the 29th degree, it complicates things a bit....

If Aries is rising, it should then also be on the 29th degree and my Sun would have missed the 9th house by a hair.

The initial rectification did have Aries Ascending on the 29th degree. The second rectification being on the 20th degree.

That is why I think that the 9th is probable-given the fact that Aries is confirmed to be the Asc. In both, the 9th house is stronger.

posted December 07, 2016 11:27 AM            

that would be a really odd chance.

interesting case. i guess a bit more thourough work should be done. I'll check out neptune sun conjunctions in sag, see if all of them are a bit watered down like you. Or if some can be wild like the other sags in 9th.

(but still doesnt guarantee anything yet for sure)

if your degree is after 29 aries, then i'm really impressed with that one rectifier. maybe just got lucky. no idea how they'd get that.

et: seems like the neptune-sun conjunction could make you a bit more subtle in expression, kind of dampered down or something. seemed like a characteristic of others with that conjunction in sag.

so the quest continues. i really thought you were gonna be a 9th, cause you don't seem particularily deep on here.

im gonna take a break or something. but at least i'm sure about your rising.

here.

posted December 07, 2016 11:34 AM            

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Originally posted by soren:
wow, really interesting then, so it'd have to be after 29 degrees in aries but still in aries for it to be in the 8th.

that would be a really odd chance.

interesting case. i guess a bit more thourough work should be done. I'll check out neptune sun conjunctions in sag, see if all of them are a bit watered down like you. Or if some can be wild like the other sags in 9th.

(but still doesnt guarantee anything yet for sure)

if your degree is after 29 aries, then i'm really impressed with that one rectifier. maybe just got lucky. no idea how they'd get that.

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Odd ? Tell me about it Very.

posted December 07, 2016 12:20 PM            

Some more sag's in 9th. I guess i just picked bad ones the first time, too wild or something. didn't intend it.

these calmer ones seem to be more similar. I can see it. You probably are 9th after all. Maybe i'll do another set like these for 8th. we'll see.

Although i checked and all the ones above were pisces rising except the one with glasses (aqua rising).

found another 9th house sag with aries rising and he was wild like the others. perhaps some negative sign influence. but yeah you are likely 9th.

posted December 07, 2016 12:31 PM            

All I can say is THANK YOU for all the trouble.

posted December 07, 2016 12:54 PM            

I was purposely suggesting you were an 8th house, just so you would prove me wrong and show that you preffered to be what you actually were- a 9th house

posted December 07, 2016 01:06 PM            

Now,