posted December 14, 2016 04:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Ann7:
Agreed.

The real issue isn't whether or not something is accurate, the real issue is respecting each other and the community as a whole.

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Exactly and you have to give respect to get respect and telling me I don't care about Lindaland when I respectfully give my opinion on how something should be handled and then sarcastically telling me "Merry Christmas counselor" is not been kind and respectful.

posted December 14, 2016 04:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Yes, that's very reasonable.

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posted December 14, 2016 04:37 PM            

Hypatia

posted December 14, 2016 04:38 PM            

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Originally posted by lalalinda:
Hello LeeLoo, yes, I understand completely the issue here. The problem is Astrology is based on (intuitive) interpretation, nothing is written in stone and there is no way to disprove another's interpretation/opinion. The only way to correct a false or misleading interpretation is to challenge it through respectful debate.

I do see misleading information from time to time when I do I try to steer it in the right direction. Ideally, the experienced Astrologers will recognize and try to mentor or guide the beginners in their quest.

The crux of this issue is misinformation is dangerous.
That is why we need to work together.

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Lalalinda, I already stated three times in this thread alone that the disclaimer is about the postage of inaccurate astrological data of famous charts (wrong DOB, wrong TOB, wrong aspects) and the need to correct those when this happens for any astrological interpretation to take place Thank you for understanding.

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posted December 14, 2016 04:38 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Exactly and you have to give respect to get respect and telling me I don't care about Lindaland when I respectfully give my opinion on how something should be handled and then sarcastically telling me "Merry Christmas counselor" is not been kind and respectful.

Regardless of my personal issues with Leeloo I don't think is unreasonable to request data to be corrected when is NOT data that is OPEN to INTERPRETATION and for the thread to be closed if that correction is not made.

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I totally agree that respect goes both ways, every which way. Not debating that at all. Not even debating the need to correct something when it's wrong. Just suggesting that the interaction be peaceful by everyone involved. I feel that is the real problem.

posted December 14, 2016 04:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Yes, that's very reasonable.

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Randall, is this answer to me, do you find the disclaimer reasonable? Sorry but there are just many posts here.

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posted December 14, 2016 04:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
This hatred was never about astrological accuracy. It's personal. And it's wrong.

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There's no denying that people on LL have personal issues with others from time to time - perfectly normal in a community.

However, these conflicts can often reveal more general problems, as in this recent case.

Many people who didn't have a personal issue against anyone were in favour of accuracy and integrity of those offering information as fact.

You are utterly wrong Orange if you think there was any hatred in my motivations. My thread was made in good faith in an attempt to give a voice to certain needs of the community when there was a clear struggle.

posted December 14, 2016 04:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
No, Voix,
I didn't mean you or your thread. Not At all.

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OK.

There are separate issues. Some are personal and some are ethical.

I thought we were discussing the ethical issue of data being verified, or corrected when proven to be incorrect.
Despite any personal issues, this ethical issue remains and is valid despite anything personal between members.

posted December 14, 2016 04:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
^^^^.

Hypatia

Her last sentence

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posted December 14, 2016 04:57 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:

Regardless of my personal issues with Leeloo I don't think is unreasonable to request data to be corrected when is NOT data that is OPEN to INTERPRETATION and for the thread to be closed if that correction is not made.

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posted December 14, 2016 05:01 PM            

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Originally posted by Ann7:
I totally agree that respect goes both ways, every which way. Not debating that at all. Not even debating the need to correct something when it's wrong. Just suggesting that the interaction be peaceful by everyone involved. I feel that is the real problem.

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posted December 14, 2016 05:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
No, Voix,
I didn't mean you or your thread. Not At all

They know who they are.

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posted December 14, 2016 05:14 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I second this, Voix you have actually tried to separate the two in your last thread; you personally did your best to do that.

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posted December 14, 2016 05:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
Yes, and the community then achieved it all by themselves - it's wonderful to see!

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posted December 14, 2016 05:30 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
What you did in that thread was an attempt at damage control in my perception and conflict resolution in yours by focusing on the problem instead of attacking and blaming which is a better approach. You also listened to everyone and honored their voice and did not selectively ignore certain people, you practiced an inclusiveness style of communication while been respectful the whole time.

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posted December 14, 2016 05:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
Well, I guess that's the responsibility of those of us who are lucky enough to not be hurt by the conflict. I have been hurt in conflicts and not represented myself very well at all! Happy to redeem myself a bit

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posted December 14, 2016 05:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Orange:
This hatred was never about astrological accuracy. It's personal. And it's wrong.

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Why do you even make this kind of comment?

Why are you provoking me?

Totally off topic AND you say you don't like when I start with Ami? So why do you seem like you are out to get ME? You are the one who keeps stirring up the drama, I swear. Honestly if it weren't for your incendiary, sensationalized comments both times I *MILDLY* corrected Ami, none of this would have happened.

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Originally posted by Tulipe:
wanting for accurate astro data is personal hatred ?

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posted December 14, 2016 05:46 PM            

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Originally posted by lalalinda:
When the info on the date of birth or time of birth is wrong, then yes, by all means, provide an accredited link in the debate.

I should have been more specific.

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Thank you, Lala

I am happy to see an understanding is being reached between all of us here, Hypatia, Voix, Violets and everyone else who spoke, and I am happy to see we all want the same thing.

Since this has taken a toll on all of us, when it comes to time, energy and importance, and since I seem to have missed the answer in the otherwise legitimate discussion here, Randall, shall I understand this disclaimer is accepted?

"Lindaland supports astrological integrity and accuracy. If technical inaccuracies (faulty astrological data) are identified, they are to be respectfully corrected by the poster as soon as possible, before the thread continues. Non-compliance leads to moderator intervention and the thread being closed for technical inaccuracy"

or another form you propose?

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