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Faith
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posted December 14, 2016 05:46 PM
  
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Originally posted by Randall:
Is is that pervasive of a problem? Certainly, if there's proof that birth data is wrong, I can handle it. Sometimes that info is not conclusive, however.
YES Lots and lots of errors last week. IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted December 14, 2016 05:48 PM
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I think is fair to say that if the inaccuracy is not corrected then the thread should be closed.
How about this one?
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/236945.html IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted December 14, 2016 05:48 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
I was replying to the post immediately preceeding mine where the words about it not being unreasonable were being used. Not sure how a disclaimer would work. Is is that pervasive of a problem? Certainly, if there's proof that birth data is wrong, I can handle it. Sometimes that info is not conclusive, however.
Thanks, Randall!
It seems to have become a fairly pervasive problem, from what I gather.
I can't speak for everyone, but I personally really appreciate your willingness to consider the idea.  IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted December 14, 2016 05:51 PM
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Originally posted by LeeLoo2014:
"Lindaland supports astrological integrity and accuracy. If technical inaccuracies (faulty astrological data) are identified, they are to be respectfully corrected by the poster as soon as possible, before the thread continues. Non-compliance leads to moderator intervention and the thread being closed for technical inaccuracy"
My Virgo Moon finds this very fair, clear, and well worded. IP: Logged |
Violets
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posted December 14, 2016 05:55 PM
I suppose it could be added to the forum rules? People often don't notice them, but they're there, and can be pointed out, or a thread bumped, etc.IP: Logged |
Sunnya
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posted December 14, 2016 06:21 PM
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Originally posted by lalalinda:
(...)The problem is Astrology is based on (intuitive) interpretation, nothing is written in stone and there is no way to disprove another's interpretation/opinion. The only way to correct a false or misleading interpretation is to challenge it through respectful debate.(...)Ideally, the experienced Astrologers will recognize and try to mentor or guide the beginners in their quest. That is why we need to work together
This. quote:
Originally posted by hypatia238:
I think is fair to say that if the inaccuracy is not corrected then the thread should be closed.
And this should happen after the OP has had the chance to correct the misinformation posted and failed to do so.
Without picking sides and speaking only objectively, I think the forum as a community and as a whole would only benefit if everyone works together, focus on what's best for everyone (members and potential new members) as a community and not just to benefit a selected few and not feed any dramas and/or egos.
I also think getting too strict and too many rules will potentially scare away new members, casual people and even professional astrologers.
The part of having open discussions and civilized debates with a different variety of opinions and people with different points of view is what makes a forum beautiful. Everyone can learn from the different point of views as long as there is mutual respect and open minds, after all we all share one thing: the love for Astrology. Let's rather focus on this. Peace out, good luck Lindaland. 
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Randall
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posted December 14, 2016 07:02 PM
I could add something similar to the Rules. A reputable source would have to be referenced, such as AstroDataBank.IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted December 14, 2016 07:06 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
I could add something similar to the Rules. A reputable source would have to be referenced, such as AstroDataBank.
Is this for every time we discuss placements, or just when we correct someone else? IP: Logged |
hypatia238
Moderator Posts: 5622
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posted December 14, 2016 07:07 PM
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Originally posted by Faith:
How about this one?
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/236945.html
I am not a moderator for Astrology 2.0 so I can't close a thread here but based on the OP of the link you gave me she made a small mistake on the spelling of one of the asteroids or is there something else I am missing that bothered you about that thread?. In this case you as a member can point it out and ask her nicely to correct it but I would choose my battles if I were you bc if not it will feel to her like you are micromanaging her and she will start to feel persecuted by you. I would personally just point out the error and say I would appreciate it if you fix it. If she makes a bigger mistake like talking about aspects in a chart of a famous person that are not actually in their chart bc she has the wrong data all together or something along those lines then you point it out and ask nicely she fixes it as well and if she doesn't you email Randall or Lalalinda to inform them of the issue who are the moderators of Astrology 2.0. Since this is more serious I imagine they will try to get her to fix it and if not remove wrong data and or close thread. The latter is a much bigger issue ethically although still should be handled with kindness and this thread with the disclaimer that Leeloo suggested is providing a platform on how to do this kindly providing a procedure and structure that is expected to be implemented so there are no surprises. IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted December 14, 2016 07:10 PM
Wasn't asking for another one of your lectures, hypatia. Just wanted your opinion.Ami made errors last week. First thread, I said "Accuracy would be nice." Second thread: "How hard is it to check?" Yet I am constantly being accused of unkindness in how I brought the errors to her attention. I'm sick of that. Please don't feed into this myth that I was out of line or unkind. As the conversation progressed and I was baited (Ami's response to "Accuracy would be nice" was to call me stupid), and anyone can check how the other thread got out of hand, then I probably said some unkind things. But many, many more bad things were said about me, than I said about anyone else. I don't really care about it as an ego issue. But I DO like truth and accuracy so I hope people will read the threads if they want to form an opinion. IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted December 14, 2016 07:17 PM
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Originally posted by Faith:
Wasn't asking for another one of your lectures, hypatia. Just wanted your opinion.
You asked "what about this one?" which is a vague question, I did my best replying to it given it was not a very specific question. I do appreciate you a lot in general Faith ironically more than Ami, its hard not bc of our syanstry, but we are just not going to agree every time. I want everyone to feel good here including you and Leeloo, I wish Gabby would come back too and Aubyanne would participate more often as well as Ceri but when I feel a certain way I am true to it. IP: Logged |
Faith
Knowflake Posts: 20408
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posted December 14, 2016 07:20 PM
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
You asked "what about this one?" which is a vague question,
So, Ami says there is an asteroid called Blewit. There is not, it's Blewett. Several people have told her and she insists on spelling it her way. You think her inaccuracy ought to be allowed to stand. Okay then. That's all I wanted to know. I think it might bother some of the rest of us but I'm not presuming to speak for anyone else. It does bother me. No one here should be making up asteroid names, in my opinion. IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted December 14, 2016 07:22 PM
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Originally posted by Faith:
Ami made errors last week. First thread, I said "Accuracy would be nice." Second: "How hard is it to check?" Yet I am constantly being accused of unkindness in how I brought the errors to her attention. I'm sick of that. Please don't feed into this myth that I was out of line or unkind.
I know you are kind, I know that. IP: Logged |
Faith
Knowflake Posts: 20408
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posted December 14, 2016 07:23 PM
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I know you are kind, I know that.
Thanks. People keep saying I'm hateful. I feel like a punching bag on this particular thread. So thanks for this word of kindness. Peace  IP: Logged |
hypatia238
Moderator Posts: 5622
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posted December 14, 2016 07:24 PM
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Originally posted by Faith:
So, Ami says there is an asteroid called Blewit.There is not, it's Blewett. Several people have told her and she insists on spelling it her way. You think her inaccuracy ought to be allowed to stand. Okay then. That's all I wanted to know. I think it might bother some of the rest of us but I'm not presuming to speak for anyone else. It does bother me. No one here should be making up asteroid names, in my opinion.
And you expressed that it bothered you! and she did include the asteroid number so is easy to see that is misspelled; probably she is spelling it how it sounds and to make a point about why she interprets that asteroid the way she does. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted December 14, 2016 07:25 PM
No, posting a source isn't necessary when you discuss Placements. It's just when you question the technical accuracy of posted birth data. AstroDataBank is the definitive source and respected by all, but there could be others.IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted December 14, 2016 07:26 PM
Done!
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum37/HTML/000009.html IP: Logged |
hypatia238
Moderator Posts: 5622
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posted December 14, 2016 07:26 PM
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Originally posted by Faith:
Thanks. People keep saying I'm hateful. I feel like a punching bag on this particular thread. So thanks for this word of kindness. Peace
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Randall
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posted December 14, 2016 07:27 PM
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
And you expressed that it bothered you! and she did include the asteroid number so is easy to see that is misspelled; probably she is spelling it how it sounds and to make a point about why she interprets that asteroid the way she does.
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Faith
Knowflake Posts: 20408
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posted December 14, 2016 07:30 PM
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
And you expressed that it bothered you! and she did include the asteroid number so is easy to see that is misspelled; probably she is spelling it how it sounds and to make a point about why she interprets that asteroid the way she does.
@Randall
So it's okay to misspell asteroids, that is protected under artistic license and no one may ask for correction? In this case I think the spelling is pushing for a particular interpretation of the asteroid and over-stressing its relevance and applicability. Like spelling mortar "murder" or something. IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted December 14, 2016 07:35 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
Done!
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum37/HTML/000009.html
Does that only apply to the Reference Library? I don't understand what's been done. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted December 14, 2016 07:35 PM
I agree with the quote. She gave its number, so she was spelling it how it sounds to support her interpretation of it. Yes, that could be deemed creative license, since she did provide the correect Asteroid number. IP: Logged |
Electro DGX
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posted December 14, 2016 07:35 PM
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
And you expressed that it bothered you! and she did include the asteroid number so is easy to see that is misspelled; probably she is spelling it how it sounds and to make a point about why she interprets that asteroid the way she does.
Well, in order to avoid being corrected on the spelling of the asteroid, why doesn't she spell it correctly and then state, "It reminds me of the phrase 'blew it'," while going on to give her interpretation of the asteroid? Just my suggestion. ------------------
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Randall
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posted December 14, 2016 07:37 PM
You said "asteroids." Has this been pervasive? IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted December 14, 2016 07:37 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
I agree with the quote. She gave its number, so she was spelling it how it sounds to support her interpretation of it. Yes, that could be deemed creative license, since she did provide the correect Asteroid number.
Is that going to be part of the rules? Because I can just seem people scratching their heads when they try and correct someone's blatant and consistent misspelling of an asteroid, and they are told they are in the wrong and have no place to comment. IP: Logged |
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