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LeeLoo2014
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posted December 14, 2016 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oops it seems my post came just when lala closed the thread.

I will repost it here:


Hi again Randall I loved your quote about the art of avoidance, quite a precious art, under certain circumstances However, I must say an outspoken support of accuracy and integrity in approaching astrology (no acceptance of identified inaccurate astrological data) and the power for us to correct our mistakes as a general rule (why not a disclaimer?) has become an important moment for me here, since as I said, astrology for me starts with consulting the charts. I just want to know if I can fit here

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Randall
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posted December 14, 2016 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, technical inaccuracies should be respectfully corrected.

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soren
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posted December 14, 2016 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
should is the word, but won't always be the case.

it would be nice, but that's the person's choice, maybe they lazy,

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soren
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posted December 14, 2016 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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LeeLoo2014
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posted December 14, 2016 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
Yes, technical inaccuracies should be respectfully corrected.

Leaving aside the current situation and making it a good reminder of positive change, with no other interventions to it, can a disclaimer be made, along the lines:

"Lindaland supports astrological integrity and accuracy. If technical inaccuracies (faulty astrological data) are identified, they are to be respectfully corrected by the poster as soon as possible, before the thread continues. Non-compliance leads to moderator intervention and the thread being closed for technical inaccuracy"

Yes?

Just a proposal of disclaimer.

Not sure how disclaimers are added, maybe this thread can also serve as disclaimer?

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soren
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posted December 14, 2016 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bit too strict,


how often do we find false information, if it was rampant on everyones posts, then i'd see we'd need someone to step up and set order on this land.

but how often in the past year has it happened, rarely.

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hypatia238
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posted December 14, 2016 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think is fair to say that if the inaccuracy is not corrected then the thread should be closed.

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hypatia238
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posted December 14, 2016 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by soren:
rarely.


I agree and was thinking of pointing that out too.

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Tulipe
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posted December 14, 2016 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
Yes, technical inaccuracies should be respectfully corrected.

And if they aren't being made, what do we do then ?

I second Leeloo suggestion, I come to Lindaland with the belief that astrology knowledges on here are reliable as there are many professional astrologers here. I thought we have standards. If I can't rely on astrologers to respect me and astrology enough to give accurate date, or at least, make a disclaimer when said data has not yet been confirmed, who can I rely on ? Or should I just keep silence, move on, blame myself for putting my trust in the wrong place ?

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posted December 14, 2016 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by soren:
bit too strict,


how often do we find false information, if it was rampant on everyones posts, then i'd see we'd need someone to step up and set order on this land.

but how often in the past year has it happened, rarely.


Maybe add that this rule apply to professional astrologers first and foremost ?
Normally people don't deny mistakes but correct them when being reminded and showed facts. But experiences prove that this hasn't always be the case, hence the need for rules

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soren
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posted December 14, 2016 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well Ami said from now on: she will be or try to be more accurate. That inaccurate post will get burried.

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lalalinda
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posted December 14, 2016 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unless the Astro findings are backed up with reference links to support the theory, then the interpretation is just the opinion of the poster.

this goes without saying
and a good rule of thumb.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted December 14, 2016 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, Lalalinda this is about the postage of inaccurate astrological data (discussing non-existent astrological aspects in charts of famous people). And mainly about a commitment to astrological integrity and accuracy of this forum and offering a solution when such technical inaccuracies occur and need to be corrected.

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hypatia238
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posted December 14, 2016 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lalalinda:
Unless the Astro findings are backed up with reference links to support the theory, then the interpretation is just the opinion of the poster.

this goes without saying
and a good rule of thumb.


That is the point that I have made in two different threads about self responsibility in the sense that if someone posts something without any references you are responsible for doing your own research and double checking the data and its facts for accuracy bc we live in world with so much information that it is important to exercise this skill anyways to build strong minds but my opinion does not matter and I apparently am evil and don't care about this site or anything according to Leeloo.

However I see Leeloo's point about if someone makes such a big mistake that they are posting straight up fake astrological profiles that it should be corrected and if not the thread should be closed but my point is that the request for it to be corrected should be done with love and respect which is not the manner that I feel has been done and why I participated minimally in those threads.

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LeeLoo2014
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posted December 14, 2016 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No one can expect of any astrologer or astrology passionate or random person to notice a thread/post contains incorrect DOB, TOB, aspects in famous charts and pretend they don't see it. I can attest no one can expect this of me.

An astrological thread/post becomes moot and ultimately spreading false information before such an error is corrected.

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Orange
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posted December 14, 2016 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This hatred was never about astrological accuracy. It's personal. And it's wrong.

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soren
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posted December 14, 2016 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soren     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it went both ways.

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hypatia238
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posted December 14, 2016 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Orange:
This hatred was never about astrological accuracy. It's personal. And it's wrong.

That is how it has felt like to me too.

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lalalinda
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posted December 14, 2016 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello LeeLoo, yes, I understand completely the issue here. The problem is Astrology is based on (intuitive) interpretation, nothing is written in stone and there is no way to disprove another's interpretation/opinion. The only way to correct a false or misleading interpretation is to challenge it through respectful debate.

I do see misleading information from time to time when I do I try to steer it in the right direction. Ideally, the experienced Astrologers will recognize and try to mentor or guide the beginners in their quest.

The crux of this issue is misinformation is dangerous.
That is why we need to work together.

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hypatia238
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posted December 14, 2016 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by soren:
it went both ways.

Possibly but handled badly imo regardless.

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Tulipe
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posted December 14, 2016 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tulipe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Orange:
This hatred was never about astrological accuracy. It's personal. And it's wrong.

wanting for accurate astro data is personal hatred ?

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LeeLoo2014
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posted December 14, 2016 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry Orange if you make it personal, for me it is about what I stated, and such an important matter cannot be about any individual, either you, me or someone else. To me it is about the future standards of this site and how they match mine, when it comes to astrology. I am here for astrology.

That is why I kindly ask everyone to respect my question to Randall and not to make it about any personal matters or vendetta. Thank you.

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Ann7
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posted December 14, 2016 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Orange:
This hatred was never about astrological accuracy. It's personal. And it's wrong.

Agreed.

The real issue isn't whether or not something is accurate, the real issue is respecting each other and the community as a whole.

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posted December 14, 2016 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enneline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lalalinda:
Hello LeeLoo, yes, I understand completely the issue here. The problem is Astrology is based on (intuitive) interpretation, nothing is written in stone and there is no way to disprove another's interpretation/opinion. The only way to correct a false or misleading interpretation is to challenge it through respectful debate.

I do see misleading information from time to time when I do I try to steer it in the right direction. Ideally, the experienced Astrologers will recognize and try to mentor or guide the beginners in their quest.

The crux of this issue is misinformation is dangerous.
That is why we need to work together.


Hi

this is not about interpretation- not for me.
You are absolutely right- everyone has the right to have his own interpretation

It's just about plain false info- like the wrong birth date for Prince William or that a sun squares a venus in a natal.

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posted December 14, 2016 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lalalinda:
Hello LeeLoo, yes, I understand completely the issue here. The problem is Astrology is based on (intuitive) interpretation, nothing is written in stone and there is no way to disprove another's interpretation/opinion. The only way to correct a false or misleading interpretation is to challenge it through respectful debate.



*Mic drop* ... Joking.

This is what I have been saying!

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