posted January 25, 2017 06:56 PM            

One, Libra can be quite argumentative. Linda Goodman talks about this quite a lot. She even mentions it in how a Pisces can manipulate a Libra to agree with her (I remember as that was pretty funny, and was essentially using reverse psychology).

I've known plenty of Libras, including with Pisces influence. The only Libra I've known to be fake had a Scorpio stellium, including moon (though she was also crazy so it's hard to say if she was being fake or if that was just a manifestation of her mental illness, which may have even included multiple personalities). That's just my own observation, I'm sure there are plenty of fake Libras as there are of every other sign.

By fake I mean pretending to be your friend while ruining you and sticking the proverbial dagger in your back, as opposed to those who fit in (wearing Sunday clothes to church, for example, business clothes at the office, etc) or respectful (like not speaking ill of the dead), which apparently some on LL also consider fake (I wonder if those same people would say those who are not fake are therefore insensitive ******** ). That said, other types of fake exists, such as the "stepford wives" type. Other parts are a gray area. I don't consider fitting in to be fake (even if you have to fake it for awhile), though it can be depending.

And yes, every sign has its fakers. And I see it at the churches, at the clubs, in the stores, about everywhere. Although sometimes they may just be going through the motions (doing what they think they're supposed to be doing because it hasn't even occurred to them to do something else) without thinking about it which isn't the same as being fake in my book (though the end results are very similar).

posted January 25, 2017 09:13 PM            

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Originally posted by panzi:
I also noticed that people with no boundaries,no identity of their own(or a very flexible one) feel the need to brand themselves as open minded.
It's easy to conceal the lack of a spinebone behind the pretty term(generally accepted and embraced)of open minded.

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posted January 25, 2017 09:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
I won't point out a sign, but I'll say Venus.

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So, Venus aspects? Soft aspects?

posted January 25, 2017 10:23 PM              

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Originally posted by panzi:
Venus is the ruler of Libra and Taurus no?
Smooth

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posted January 25, 2017 10:45 PM            

Jupiter square or opposite the sun usually shows that "all that shines is not gold."

posted January 25, 2017 11:28 PM              

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Originally posted by Nine:
So, Venus aspects? Soft aspects?

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posted January 25, 2017 11:52 PM            

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Originally posted by panzi:
I also noticed that people with no boundaries,no identity of their own(or a very flexible one) feel the need to brand themselves as open minded.
It's easy to conceal the lack of a spinebone behind the pretty term(generally accepted and embraced)of open minded.

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posted January 26, 2017 12:16 AM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
Jupiter square or opposite the sun usually shows that "all that shines is not gold."

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Opposition

Molly Ringwold, Kirsen Dunst, Uma Thurman, Jenna Marbles, Kevin Costner, Kate Beckinsale, Rosamund Pike, Rachel McAdams, Jennifer Nettles, Dr. Phil, Jerry Springer, Diane Krall, Alice Walker, Elisabeth Shue, Anna Kendrick, Idina Menzel, Kelly Clarkson, Kylie Jenner, Zac Efron, Sting, Morrissey, Ben Bernanke, Melania Trump

Square

posted January 26, 2017 12:17 AM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
Same can be said about the narrow minded-ones who brand themselves as "strong, standing up for truth".

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posted January 26, 2017 01:18 AM            

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I don't mind being called narrow minded.I don't mind being called in any way.As long as i personally know who i am,it's all fine.

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Right on!

Life on earth is possible because two opposing principles were united. A relationship where both parties are assertive and neither one is willing to "take a hit" is doomed to failure. Conversely, a relationship where both parties are conciliatory, and afraid of offending the other is also doomed to failure. This because progress is impossible as taking the lead may be interpreted as "rocking the boat". This inertia will ultimately lead to resentment, and become as unproductive as the first scenario.

posted January 26, 2017 01:43 AM            

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Originally posted by Nine:

Life on earth is possible because two opposing principles were united. A relationship where both parties are assertive and neither one is willing to "take a hit" is doomed to failure. Conversely, a relationship where both parties are conciliatory, and afraid of offending the other is also doomed to failure. This because progress is impossible as taking the lead may be interpreted as "rocking the boat". This inertia will ultimately lead to resentment, and become as unproductive as the first scenario.

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posted January 26, 2017 02:00 AM            

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Originally posted by Elysia:

Aries, especially. I smile through my Aries friend's occasional outbursts because even *while* she's angry, I know she's really not.

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Oops, I meant to quote Faith's post, but this made me laugh. Although I'm not the friend you're speaking of, I actually *am* angry when I'm expressing it. I can now be mean-spirited, at times, but the anger usually blows over, so I try to curb any impulse when it comes to voicing it. In November, I called someone a name, I was so angry at the way he was expressing himself - someone I'd considered a friend. The following day, I was out with dad, and it just hit me, what I'd done. I blurted out, "Oh my god, I can't believe I called him an ******* !!"

posted January 26, 2017 02:02 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
I agree

I think astrologers also need to resolve their conflicting opinions about Libras. We cannot complain that:

a) They never fully take your side, they are always pointing out other ways of looking at an issue, and burdening you with speeches about "on the other hand..." AND

b) They are people pleasing and will say whatever it takes to make you happy.

Those are mutually exclusive. So let's stop saying both of those things.

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You're right, people DO do that with Libra. Poor Libra.

posted January 26, 2017 02:09 AM            

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Originally posted by soren:
interesting that many can label others fake, but who labels themselves as fake. maybe if you were those other people, the things you saw them as "not being true to themselves about" they actually were

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posted January 26, 2017 02:40 AM            

people who are fixed and straightforward in their expressions, sometimes even hurtful to others for the sake of "honesty" call those who care about not offending others FAKE. what is fake? is a compassionate soul talking from love fake when inspired or seing reality with different glasses such as a neptunian soul? is a libra fake because he wants to take into account all the arguments possible before taking sides and search for fairnes? just to change their mind once more time because they realize they did not consider one important argument?

if we see things in perspective, all concept has its opposite, which in turn is the one balancing the extreme or negative features of that concept. black and white equal GREY. we have grey because we have black and white. if not, we only had either black or white. what about thinking in the benefit of the opposite?. do you get annoyed by FAKE personalities? then I invite you to see what in that personality can help you to balance you. maybe FAKE shows flexibility, adaptability, mutability, etc...

I have observed in my own experience (having taurus AC) that I hate when people do not come and say things straighforward. howewer, after years observing myself, I can see that I am straighforward SOMETIMES when my mars-sun conjunction sextile jupiter kicks off. however, when my venusian side (venus rules AC conjuct DC ruler mars) and South node in Libra kicks off, then I can be very CHARMING, sweet and have difficulty to disagree to not upset the apple cart, but still feel incomfortable if i do not say what I think. of course part of my lesson is to learn to use the best of mars-venus (indicated by several themes in my chart) Node in aries, venus-mars conjunction. rulers of ac venus-conjunct DC and so on...neptune in 7th. I notice observing myself thought the decades that when I was younger I hate FAKE people (those who did not align to my MARS-SUN conjunction view) the more I have integrated my FAKE venusian side, I have come more to peace with the world and hate less the FAKE ones as I have started OWNING my own projections... an invitation I make to those suffering for the existence of FAKERS

there may be lot of projection or intolerance to what is not our way to do things. People who are not ARIES type are FAKE. or people who are not STUBBORN are FLAKY.... from the FLAKY side perspective, people too fixed are BORING & CLOSED MINDED, and people who are DIRECT lack GRACE AND ELEGANCE... so we label according to our frame of reference, which should be by ALL MEANS the frame of reference against each person should be measured.

threadS asking about what make people fake is in itself misleading. neither venusian or neptunians are FAKE. they are REAL to what means to be neptunian or venusian. venus is charming, why do you want venus to be something else than charm? do we want MARS to be charming? do we want pluto to be dreaming? do we want saturn to be messy and irresponsible? we all have all these planets in our charts and the way all these energies interact makes sometimes difficult to reveal all the energies in the pure way 24/7... that is also FAKE. a person who has strong neptune but only express the mars side and project the other. not even aware of their own projection and calling everyone FAKE and true to themselves, when they even do not know themselves. so they are FAKE to their true selves!!!

I am out of here...

posted January 26, 2017 03:30 AM            

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Aries - Fake anger. They're not mean-spirited so the anger is just weird.

Taurus - Fake. All that superficial calmness nonsense when underneath is a roiling river of emotion. Yet here they go with the steady, soothing voice routine again? Please.

Gemini - Fake two-sidedness and Gemininess. Deep inside they are unified.

Cancer - O.M.G. what fakers! Dying inside because they love someone so much and pretending "Nah, it's cool."

Leo - You seem strong but have some insecurities, too. That's called "being fake."

Virgo - Beyond fake! This whole "perfect" routine? Everyone sees through it. Just because your house, your hair, your children, your car and everything is spotless that doesn't mean....oh wait.

Yes it does mean you are perfect. Forget this one.

Libra - Fake nails

Scorpio - Fake pleasantness. Feel like crap but say they are okay.

Sag - Fake whatever they want, for fun.

Cap - Fake wealth.

Aqua - Fake normalcy.

Pisces - Fake species. They are actually aliens.

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posted January 26, 2017 04:34 AM            

For example, a Libra ASC tells everyone at the party that they look beautiful - but the Libra ASC does it b/c they truly enjoy making others feel good and giving compliments is just something in their nature. They don't necessarily think that all of those people are 'beautiful', but they pride themselves on pleasing others b/c what benefits others benefits them at the end of the day. So this Libra ASC had no bad intentions.

A second example, another Libra ASC meets someone at the party. They find out that this someone could possibly have big connections to a job that the Libra ASC wants. They don't want to lose the connection and hopes to leave a good impression, so the Libra ASC comments on how amazing they look, even though they don't really believe they look particularly stunning. So they had conniving and scheming intentions.

Can you really call the first Libra ASC fake? They acted the way they did b/c that is truly how they are. They were just being themselves (being a people pleaser). If someone is being themselves, doesn't that mean they're real, and not fake? Simply having an agreeable personality doesn't mean someone is fake IMO.