posted January 29, 2017 08:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
I don't know when I preach.

When do I preach?

ETA: Nevermind, it really does not matter to me.

Nine, Ami, nordic, have a blast, saying whatever you want.

I hope nobody feels a need to defend me.

I truly do not care what is said.

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I know.. That's what I was saying Faithy.

It's ironic that your whole point here was how you felt bad because people were being preachy towards posters! And now they're saying you're the one preaching. That's just nuts.

Guys, at least try to be coherent.
You say -
a. Faith is wrong because you've a right to preach to people who are being "unreasonable".
b. Faith is self-righteous & preachy.
HUH?
Pick your argument.

posted January 29, 2017 08:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Well said, 100% correct and needs to be said lol

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posted January 29, 2017 08:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Thanks again!

I do sound hard sometimes. 3H Pluto trine Gemini Mars.

But it's also a case where, most of my content aims to be helpful and supportive.

I think anyone who's been around sees that I am just like this.

Because I'm one of the people who goes around giving readings, I have been sensitive to criticism about it, as my efforts are intended as a service and gift. I do try and exercise discernment but...threads like this take away from my interest in doing readings, to be perfectly honest. Makes me self-conscious about what people are thinking, whether they think I'm enabling delusion, taking too optimistic a view, or whatever.

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Not to make you more self-conscious, but your readings/comments for me personally have been a great gift and helped way more than I can convey here--I also find your comments on all other threads decorous and insightful. By joining the discussion about enabling delusion or whatever--which interests me a LOT, so I like to discuss it, but I hope won't deter anyone reading and contributing---I mostly mean to share and problematize my own uses and misuses of this stuff.

posted January 30, 2017 05:16 AM            

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Originally posted by athenaia:
Lucia (and Nordic), I truly do agree with the thesis of this thread. I've seen some troubling things on this forum, and I have instinctually felt that couples therapy would be a more productive use of one's time given the levels of distress they demonstrate in their posting. I'm hugely Saturnian myself so this tends to be my default mode of operating. Due to this bias I tend to feel that if I imbue it onto others, they'll *also* be able to free themselves from the emotional prison they're wrapped up in.

But at the same time I feel I have to pay homage to the science of astrology. People come here wanting answers, they want their intuitions validated - because no one else in their life will give them validation. And when you can see it printed on the stars, there's relief. It wasn't just all in their heads. There's finally a source outside of themselves letting them know everything they've felt all along. I think there's a lot of empowerment in that, and I would HOPE that they would take that knowledge and heal - knowing the darker sides of their partner, knowing the weak parts on their own natal they need to work on, etc..

There are times when life is grim and it's so reassuring to know that's it just a long outer planet transit you're going through and you just have to see it out to this date and everything will be fine.. I wonder how many people have been saved at the thought of that future relief... you know?

Brutal honesty feels freeing to dole out, but sometimes the receiver can only sense the brutality of it when they just wanted to be understood. I do try to keep that in mind when someone is asking for help. Hell, I'm here because of a stupid teen romance gone awry 11 years ago! The people that helped me imparted astrological knowledge onto me so that after the pain passed, this became my new little hobby. Sometimes helping someone who seems pathetically down-and-out can lead to awesome things for them down the line. People will heal when they're ready to, but often not at the assistance of strangers (I've noticed, I used to be big on giving out unsolicited advice)

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I thank for this post. I see where you come from and at this point after all the discussion I think that in a weird way all the distinct opinions on the topic have a valid point...

yes, about the brutality.. I tend to be too harsh sometimes and it is helpful for me when I see other with a more soothing approach to respond. Probably there is a part of me who wants always to shake someone beliefs ( I blame on my mercury-Uranus) and even if hurtful, I have learned that sometimes a harsh comment (if well intended of course) can make so much good. thinking about myself, I have learned faster from people who has challenged my assumption with cruel reality comments that those that trying to make me feel well never confronted me.

said that, I still consider you have a valid point and that I should be careful when giving my harsh UNINVITED advice

posted January 30, 2017 05:30 AM            

what we were discussing about? almost forgot

reminder for those who still want to stay in the conversation.

some issues raised

1. sensitivity with the poster communicating the problem. sometimes is not what we say but how it is communicated.
2. how much we may collude with the problem when we answer astrologically something that should be solved outside of an online public platform? is it the best approach to focus on astrology? this is a tricky question and for which I do not have a definitive answer but it is nagging me
3. how much value has response to specific question based on single or reduced picture of astrology placements (why moon in gemini did not call yesterday?)

posted January 30, 2017 08:47 AM            

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Originally posted by yota13:
First time

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You're hilarious.

I disagree, but thank you.

@Lucia

posted January 30, 2017 08:48 AM            

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Originally posted by nordicsoul:
yes, let keep on topic

what we were discussing about? almost forgot

reminder for those who still want to stay in the conversation.

some issues raised

1. sensitivity with the poster communicating the problem. sometimes is not what we say but how it is communicated.
2. how much we may collude with the problem when we answer astrologically something that should be solved outside of an online public platform? is it the best approach to focus on astrology? this is a tricky question and for which I do not have a definitive answer but it is nagging me
3. how much value has response to specific question based on single or reduced picture of astrology placements (why moon in gemini did not call yesterday?)

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