posted August 24, 2017 08:47 PM            

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posted August 25, 2017 03:03 AM            

Her decks and writings have always carried a Christian element. I think she was always Christian, in spite of venturing into beliefs about fairies and other elemental realms. Perhaps Pluto is manifesting as a shedding of old paradigms....it seems she did mention her baptism earlier this year, but has begun coming out with further videos clarifying her current perspective.

Darn...can't figure out howto post the image...astro.com has her birth data is 4/29/1958 born @ 1:00 a.m. in Los Angeles

posted August 25, 2017 07:44 AM            

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posted August 25, 2017 11:17 AM            

I've been typing here for a few hours...
I need to break away a bit.
deleted many paragraphs....

There are just SOO MANY WAYS to approach this topic. And I'm aware of many different 'wordings' I can use.

I'm going to let this thread develop a bit more, before chiming in.

I've seen the Change in her, energetically as well.
Has a blessed wonderful spouse (Michael).

posted August 25, 2017 12:40 PM            

Water-Baptized on February 25, 2017.

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She was interviewed on Maui-TV, where she described her experience, and explained some things you might want to hear. Will clarify the tarot question.

posted August 25, 2017 06:05 PM            

Taking the two events mirage29 just gave us from the interview ...

First transits on the day of the life changing vision, 7 January 2017:
- Pluto 17CAP11, [21S21]
- Saturn 22SAG08, [21S56]
- Neptune 9PIS55 opposite her natal Moon 10° Virgo
- Neptune [8S39] Parallel natal Jupiter [8S22]

Transits for 25 February 2017:
- Pluto 18CAP42, [21S13]
- Saturn 26SAG32, [22S06]
- Neptune 11PIS33 still opposite natal Moon
- Neptune [8S01] still Parallel natal Jupiter

The visionary experience holds themes of Neptune, but especially Neptune + Jupiter, which she has as an 8° wide conjunction in her birth chart, but with a tighter opposition of Sun & Neptune in birth chart.

A 'born again' experience holds a theme of rebirth, transformation, which belongs to Pluto. If she has cut out something from her life she previously engaged in, Saturn also fits related to possible transit parallel natal Asc. Pluto [22N28] in her birth chart could have been contra-parallel her Asc, also indicating such themes, particularly since she has had experiences of 'close calls' that affected her life.

Regardless, both Saturn and Pluto were in transit parallel natal Saturn [21S55] for the two dates in question.

posted August 26, 2017 01:41 PM            

I believe in God. I was raised to believe in God. I never practiced religion or I went regularly to church. Since childhood I knew I was special. That I was born with abilities and powers to see the unseen. I started doing astrology at the age of 24 and tarot 3 years later. I dont think I am upseting God by doing this. Why? Because I am sure He chose me to do this. To be the person I am.

posted August 26, 2017 03:03 PM            

Doreen Virtue
April 29, 1958
1:13 a.m. UT=8:13, Sid=14:46:56
Burbank (Los Angeles County), California
118w18, 34n11

She IS a Capricorn Rising soul.

After you mentioned Sag Rising energy, my mind ping-ponged that All MORNING!!! So I looked and found the info I had, finally! I'm not sure 'where' I got it from. I've had it for a handful of years now?

Joe Biden is an example of a Sag Rising.

Doreen is a Solid Builder and VERY practical, hands on the reins, and Organized. She operates naturally with CEO-Entrepreneurship energy -- It's second nature for her to use her abilities to apply Care.

I just clipped many many paragraphs I wrote, delineating her Conversion Experience, AND the amount of attention this is receiving (I have asteroids I check for 'gossip' and 'hot-cold reactions' received in someone's reputation kind of chart.

What I wrote is VERY complimentary of her.
I love her very much-- She has a really good Heart.

From all the delineating (asteroids, angles planets, houses, ETC!!!)... I'd say that THIS was a GOD-Ordained moment for her.

I'm crying right now, because I'm sincerely very happy for her--- and, I see also that people will be upset about this for quite a while longer... (until certain specific asteroids clear energetic 'connections' in her chart).

This ECLIPSE 28 LEO was on her VX (Vertex!!! 28.02+) as well as Pluto Leo.

I'm going to stop myself from delineating ....
Truly, she IS a Beautiful Soul.

One last thing... Her H7 Cusp is Cancer 24+ ... ON my Vertex-Angel 24+!! omg.

And we have other strong synastry (and past life type) connections?

(humor) haha... We were probably devoted (nun)Sisters together. I've walked with a Reformer's spirit my whole life (as well as other inner-callings).

Today, I send Incredible Love to her...
Her conversion... written in the Stars.
For Such A Time As This....

For those who don't know? ...
I myself have been PRIVILEDGE to have had a Conversion Experience, DURING a FULL MOON Eclipse at 23+ Libra 1987!!!
(Happened when I was NOT following any kind of "religion"-path... This was totally spontaneous. I joke that God needed to 'put me asleep' to get through to me. He Himself GAVE me a Miraculous Experience in a LUCID Dream, without the influence of preacher or institutional church....
When you've HAD "that" come in an CHANGE you from the Inside, your life (inside) is never the same again....

It's been 30 YEARS for me, (Tues. April 13, 1987 at ~10:32pm Eastern Time east coast USA) ... and 'what I was before' became Changed' ...
It took me around a year to figure out "what" had happened...
But it's a REAL EXPERIENCE.
A Life-Changer from that point on.

I have that BA Conversion-Dream chart saved ....
I've been having my SATURN-RETURN!
Was 21+ Saturn-rx Sag, with 'The Awakener' Uranus rx Sag 26.39 ~ON!!~ my NorthNode-GalCenter.

Eclipse Moon was 23+ Libra ...
ON my FixedStar Spica conjunct asteroid Urania, conjunct Neptune-rx Libra 10th. ...

Today, transiting Jupiter is 21+ Libra.... wooo woot!!

Back to Doreen ....
She had her CONVERSION experience DURING the 'Time of Epiphany' (Jan 6) in the Christian church calendars.

That's the day we celebrate the Visit of The Magi, who followed an enormous Prophecy foretold by the massive light made by conjunction of Bright planets/stars.

This song... With Love, is for her.

posted August 26, 2017 03:56 PM            

This is a convo I had with LL Lethargic- ...
We revisit/bump the thread once or twice a year.

I haven't read it over since last Easter holiday. Maybe I should read it first before leaving link, but I'll chance it.

Lethargic- is also a person of faith who wrestled the same questions

I am a person of DEEP DEEP Faith, Devotion, and Conviction in the Realness of GOD.

(And I Love Astrology! ... Every symbol to me, connects with God in some way. Well, I'll let you read those posts, if you want to spend the time and go there. I believe there are other links FROM there that take you to other forums where some of us have had discussions like these? .... LOL. I dunno!! I'll have to REREAD all my stuff!! hahahah Mercury-retro???)

Right after she had started the thread and asked, I (at the time) was spending a period re-visiting the RC's. (Love that Pope Francis! ... but they didn't, and I eventually left again because of bad-politics there with this present Pope.) The first sermon I heard "answered" her question.

LL Oranges & Hyacinths Forum
Topic: What would God think of divination (tarot/horary)?
- http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000656.html
OP July 20, 2015 by Lethargic-

haha.... There are transits today that are linking up what I call my "church" and BeliefSystem asteroids....

God???? You Callin' me??????

omg..... I could break into some songs right now.

Thanks to those who accept and include the Jesus-Lovers among us. And the ones who are like me, do NOT Hate like some of what I see coming out of the dogmatic sects....

It's NOT about HATE.... GOD is LOVE.
And we're supposed to BE that to Each Other.

Tolerance!!

This is an old gospel song from my old church days.

To JUPITER Libra and Saturn-Sagittarius...
To the LEO Eclipse trining Uranus, trining my NN and Conversion-Uranus...

Transiting SUN Virgo ON my CHURCH asteroid!!! LOL

Re-visiting the Marvel of my REAL Experience.

posted August 26, 2017 04:34 PM            

Gently... She merely took a Different Step, on another rung of the Ladder that she was destined to live.

I UNDERSTAND the sadness, even the angers-- Such BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE all around the globe have endeared her to themselves.... and themselves to HER too! I'm CERTAIN of it!

I'm laughing because of the 'marketing' angles? ... hmmmm. I can see what would make people think that???? But sincerely, I think this is something VERY real to her.

I don't think it reduces the Value of what she has written before at all.... AS I heard another video person say... that YOU have purchased the product, and you have made these your own. They are YOUR TOOLS, that Divine Energy works THROUGH you to use.

I LOVE LOVE LOVE what Rosalind said-- You must use your energy to the Highest Divine Purpose you have inside you...

Doreen is a Channel... If you're using her things?... Honor, by being the BEST Person you can be, HELPING other people, Healing their lives, their wounds....

THIS would be a way to Express Gratitude to someone who has worked so Diligently and Loved People 'that MUCH' that the Angels would have bent low to Speak.

posted August 26, 2017 05:27 PM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:
[B]Yes, I have the more specific birthdata.
Had it on a sticky in my ephemeris.

Doreen Virtue
April 29, 1958
1:13 a.m. UT=8:13, Sid=14:46:56
Burbank (Los Angeles County), California
118w18, 34n11

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And the source for this?

posted August 26, 2017 06:29 PM            

Since it was already published, I sincerely hope that she didn't mind my 'clarifying' the data?

She's got a Virgo Moon too... We like correctness and precision.

I shared in order to SUPPORT her.

GOD created the stars and planets, and their precise Order in the Heavens, to help us Know ourselves, and to Appreciate Who He is.

posted August 26, 2017 06:38 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
People who took her courses, have said their certificates are now invalid.
I wonder if Hay House is still selling her stuff.

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Teasel....

WHY would the certificates be invalid?
I don't understand that.
Somebody must have made that rumor up.

She explained all in the URL I left-- including her relationship with Hay House.

posted August 26, 2017 08:21 PM            

Please know that I do understand the nuances of the issues you state. I've been in the new age world since a teenager. ... I'm very particular too.

About the DV Certificate validity, etc... {not completely sure, but,} you know how hard it is to discern when someone is saying something factual..... then they 'slip into a passionate poetic kind of speech'..... then when finished, go back to calmness? That's the energy I felt when I read the article.

Same author in a different article said that she found out the certificates are still good 'for insurance' (business) purposes..
(that wouldn't be the invalidation-issue).
http://angelorum.co/topics/spirituality/doreen-virtue-denounces-tarot-other-eclips e-musings/

I (personally) don't understand the nuances of setting up spiritual businesses... I guess people are required to take out insurances. That's outside my field of knowledge.

You know too--- Astrologically/psychologically--
Many people are having or experiencing the effects of their 'own' eclipse to their chart and life. This was a VERY powerful one, and will STILL be in effect for a while longer....

Maybe the author had a strong hit to something in her chart, and the Universe is helping her move BEYOND something in order to Raise her UP to a New Level?

Don't take your eclipse sunglasses off yet!

The 'integration phase' from the effects of the work of the eclipse is still taking place... It's not done yet. Wait.

HANG-GLIDE With It, Let it Process, and Go with the Flow!

posted August 27, 2017 09:53 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
People who took her courses, have said their certificates are now invalid. I wonder if Hay House is still selling her stuff.

I wonder what Sonia Choquette thinks of this. I think she is religious, or was raised that way. I never know who to believe when it comes to these authors, though.

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