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Topic: How do you feel about your looks and physical appearance?
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SoulOfABird Knowflake Posts: 384 From: California Registered: Sep 2017
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posted September 07, 2018 01:46 AM
quote: Originally posted by Radium: Girls have it way easier than guys it terms of relationships and social issues.Women are the image of beauty, you literally just have to sit there if you are "pretty" enough and the world will just give you everything. I got to thinking the other day that being a good looking man really does not help in the long run. Sure you may get noticed quicker but that is about it. Men and beauty don't equate. Men aren't judged by their looks or social skills but what we can provide and how confident we are. It honestly sucks because I know for a fact I'm a pretty decent looking guy but all I get in return is weaker men trying to one up everything I do, stalkers, and sh1t tested constantly. A lot of "good looking" dudes tend to actually have it pretty hard in life. Girls think your a player, like, it literally doesn't help at all unless you are like at a club or some **** . Other than being the physically weaker species girls tend to have it easier for the most part. Male suicide rates are higher than female. The world just expects you to get it together. If you come from a very small, disconnected family like me it's even tougher. Girls will say they are ugly or whatever and they get automatic reassurance, SOMEONE will be willing to help you. But for a dude? Ha. You better find a way.
I agree with you. Im a girl but I do feel like a lot is expected from men. It’s sad. This world is sad. ------------------ I appreciate the masterpiece that is you, because your existence alone is art IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 10190 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 07, 2018 01:55 AM
quote: Originally posted by Plut0nian2: ( I never got a fake. baby to play with, when someone bought one for me I started crying).
That is hilarious!
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Plut0nian2 Knowflake Posts: 506 From: Registered: Apr 2014
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posted September 07, 2018 03:11 AM
quote: Originally posted by SoulOfABird: I was thinking the sane thing! I thought wow I must be weird because I don’t feel a strong urge to have kids. And saying this as a woman is probably even weirder to people. Im the same way, when I was little I thought about not having kids. Having kids is not even one of my top priorities. When she said a lot of women feel worthless if they can’t have kids. I honestly find that strange. That wouldn’t make me feel worthless. But I can only speak for myself. There are other women that strongly want kids. I think I’m the weird one.
I know right? You are not weird, there are a lot of women who don't want or chose for some reason to not have children. Believe me many women think they want children because it's supposed to be natural and it's like that's life's point for a woman but they don't really want it. Many don't realise how difficult it is to raise a child they think it will be like a cute live teddy bear, many make babies because they want to have some stable company in their life or because they aant to have a younger member to help then financially or practically when they'll get older (it's very common in my country). O wish less mothers pretended that they are happy when most I know had said that if they knew how hard it is they wouldn't make one. I wish people went through a 2-3 year trial period taking care of another child while being watched 24/7. That way impatient/violent/careless/clueless wannabe parents wouldn't make babies and people on earth would be less and happier. I don't remember the forum's name but it was one where a few thousands (I think) of mothers were commenting on how they regreted having a child and how they pretend because it is considered a shame to say it so they pretend to be the happiest on earth. I don't have the urge too and I don't think that the mother instict comes near 30s as they say, it's just that women get older and it's the age that they feel like they don't have much time. I agree though that it's very weird and very degrading to the female sex to feel worthless because of not being able to have a child. Like women are baby machines IP: Logged |
Plut0nian2 Knowflake Posts: 506 From: Registered: Apr 2014
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posted September 07, 2018 03:24 AM
quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: That is hilarious!
I still feel bad for that baby. My mom kept it in hope that I would change my mind by trying to convince me how sweet it was, she made me take it out for a walk. That is when I tossed it away in a bin far from home IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 9301 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted September 07, 2018 04:11 AM
Women wanting babies is overrated. Society says women are supposed to so many convince themselves that they do or keep silent, just as they do over many other things (and men over their own stuff as well). (Men aren't entirely spared this conditioning and manipulation to have children either.)'Course many others genuinely do. A great many have regretted it, though in part it's because of what they're not told. We are told that which will manipulate us into doing what others want rather than to make an informed decision, and the nasty side effects (plus games unethical--that is normal--hospitals and others play) that can come with childbirth is a nasty shock to many, a sense of betrayal and being lied on top of the many possible ill physical effects. Of course they're not supposed to express that or they're a crappy person, says society, so it gets bottled up, but it will come out one way or another (probably onto the unfortunate child). It has always baffled me to read on women's forums about how terrible their own mothers were, but then tell others who are terribly unprepared to have children as it will straighten them out. They obviously cannot be thinking straight but speaking as programmed like a robot since they should know better having been raised by abusive or ill-prepared mothers themselves. History shows that plenty of children were abandoned after birth, what today would be considered tossing them into a dumpster, only it wasn't always considered shocking then because they weren't romanticized. Many who weren't were little more than slaves and bargaining chips, and plenty in the past (and even in the modern world) have been sold into slavery (including sex slavery at a young age) by their own parents (though often to feed other children), and one might find what life was like for children before child labor laws (laws that came about because adult unions couldn't compete with child labor, along with other self-interests that had nothing to do with cherishing the children) rather eye opening on how expendable children were seen. Like marriage, these have only been romanticized since around the 19th century, and it took a century for it to take, and now we wrongly think that it was always that way rather than the cold, pragmatic way marriage and children used to be seen as. Someone told me that she herself did panic as she reached menopause because of her religious upbringing, that being 1 Timothy 2: 15, and having been taught that for a woman, childbirth was required (obviously a toxic denomination since there are all sorts of reasons, tragic and biological, that a female might not). She wasn't even a Christian anymore, but the panic hit her anyway, and realizing how irrational it was didn't help, it took her years to get through it. I read an interview with Susie Bright in Angry Women (a misnomer, it should be called Heretical Women, but that would sell less) who mentioned how in I think the 1970s, she was told she couldn't join the track team because it would damage her ability to have children. Being a kid, and lied to by a teacher (just another example of manipulating rather than informing to control people), she spread this to her friends and soon many girls were showing up after school to run laps! As for me...I've had some intense moments before of wanting a child...not a husband, mind you, a child. This was biological as it came with strange food cravings and other physical effects. I resisted and it would pass. And now though my sexuality is changing to want intercourse with a man, I still don't want to have children. Though I like children (and fiercely protective and loving to a few in particular), I just don't want to do that to my body, and there's plenty of overpopulation as it is. If I did, you can bet I'd be protective against those who'd want to exploit my child for their cause (I've been told by different men AND women that I should have children for nation, religion, race, and other reasons, which is to say as a resource). This post isn't meant to insult motherhood or women who genuinely want children, just saying that people shouldn't feel weird (or worse, self-hating) for not wanting children. And people who don't want them shouldn't have them for the child's sake as much as her (or his) own, and for the world (not just over overpopulation, but because unwanted children raised more as an obligation tend to become unhappy adults or even burdens and dangers on society--exceptions, always to be found, not withstanding). IP: Logged |
Desiring Shadows Knowflake Posts: 4429 From: USA ! Registered: Jan 2012
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posted September 07, 2018 05:18 AM
Well I don’t really know how to approach this topic. I’d like to say im finally comfortable in my own skin but even that’s a stretch. No matter what I weigh, 60lbs up or down, I will feel insecure. It’s something I’ve always felt and will likely feel forever. I’m comfortable with the way I look, but to think that a guy who doesn’t know me well would be wanting me for that aspect means he’s judging me from that aspect and it makes me think he’s criticizing me and even if he thinks great I end up critiquing myself and very badly. I mentally beat myself up.—— But I don’t try for my looks. I realized in life there are more important things than appearances. Actually that’s a really bad thing to say because everything in life is presentation. If you don’t say something the right way you become an ******* . Of maybe an angel. I used to try mega hard and now I don’t want someone after me for my looks. Yes when you’re mega attractive you have an advantage but if you always have an advantage you might learn to rely on it too much and the. One day when you re old or something breaks and you aren’t as you as you once were then maybe you won’t know who you are because your looks won’t be there to defend your existence and make up for your sense of self. Therefore, in conclusion, You should have a mind and a heart. A good personality and a loving heart that will be there on your rainy and sunny days. ------------------ Sun Virgo/Moon Scorpio/Ascendant Taurus 😉😎💕 IP: Logged |
Melinn Knowflake Posts: 814 From: Sweden Registered: Jul 2017
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posted September 07, 2018 05:43 AM
quote: Originally posted by Plut0nian2: I know right? You are not weird, there are a lot of women who don't want or chose for some reason to not have children. Believe me many women think they want children because it's supposed to be natural and it's like that's life's point for a woman but they don't really want it. Many don't realise how difficult it is to raise a child they think it will be like a cute live teddy bear, many make babies because they want to have some stable company in their life or because they aant to have a younger member to help then financially or practically when they'll get older (it's very common in my country). O wish less mothers pretended that they are happy when most I know had said that if they knew how hard it is they wouldn't make one. I wish people went through a 2-3 year trial period taking care of another child while being watched 24/7. That way impatient/violent/careless/clueless wannabe parents wouldn't make babies and people on earth would be less and happier. I don't remember the forum's name but it was one where a few thousands (I think) of mothers were commenting on how they regreted having a child and how they pretend because it is considered a shame to say it so they pretend to be the happiest on earth. I don't have the urge too and I don't think that the mother instict comes near 30s as they say, it's just that women get older and it's the age that they feel like they don't have much time. I agree though that it's very weird and very degrading to the female sex to feel worthless because of not being able to have a child. Like women are baby machines
I agree totally. I too do not wan't kids and never have wanted any. I hated barbies and babie dolls as a kid, I only played with stuffed animals, I was just intrested in animals.
I have aries stellium, and strong Mars, so I have a tomboyish energy, but it won't show from outside, I'm very feminine both body type, clothing style and my way of being (but very forward). The only give away would be my love for martial arts and my love of driving my car fast (in a secure way). Ok and I'm very forward and a bit dynamic, but still very feminine. I have 5th house in Capricorn. Saturn conj Uranus in 4th house both Opposite my moon. And my strongest planet is, Pluto! Very plutonic. So I guess it shows in my chart I do not want kids that way. Hmm can it be a Saturn-Pluto thing in ones chart? In my culture, no in any culture, a womans worth is by making babies. It is the norm! And its hard to find a man to marry, bc the reason to marry for the majority of men, are to make babies, why on earth would they wanna marry otherwise right? The "love" dies. Then you have children and a common ground and goal to raise them. So yeah its hard for women who do not wanna be baby machines.. 
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Huldra Knowflake Posts: 32 From: Registered: Sep 2018
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posted September 07, 2018 08:36 AM
i agree with you selena .I also had a eating dissorder. hated my body, and the way I looked. but over the years, I have understood that it all depends on how I feel inside. I have gone trough a long fase on a lower vibration recently, and did not want to look in the mirror. its like everything is more gray, and dragged down. now that I feel better, i see the sparks in my eyes, and I feel good about myself. I can comliment myself and the face in the mirror gets prettyer. it also depends on how i carry myself, and dress. if I care a littlebit, it does not have to be fashion or anything, just that I give myself selflove , then I also feel that I look good. but... on low vibrations, it is hard to get into that flow, seeing that and making me rise and shine. I have pluto and mars in 2.house scorpio. and venus square pluto. IP: Logged |
charlie Knowflake Posts: 4641 From: Registered: Jun 2012
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posted September 07, 2018 08:39 AM
I want to add to the “women want babies” thing. I WAS one of them but have realized, with age, that I don’t really like kids. I am fairly certain I only wanted A CHILD because when I was 17, I had a bad miscarriage and was told it’d be very difficult for me to conceive again. That activated the warrior in me and I wanted to “beat the system” and “beat physics” and “win the war” because isn’t that what someone with a high strung Mars would do?! In all honesty, I cringe when I see mothers that look worn and torn and also miserable. I’m sure there are beautiful moments in all of that but it’s not for me. IP: Logged |
Melinn Knowflake Posts: 814 From: Sweden Registered: Jul 2017
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posted September 07, 2018 10:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by charlie: I want to add to the “women want babies” thing. I WAS one of them but have realized, with age, that I don’t really like kids. I am fairly certain I only wanted A CHILD because when I was 17, I had a bad miscarriage and was told it’d be very difficult for me to conceive again. That activated the warrior in me and I wanted to “beat the system” and “beat physics” and “win the war” because isn’t that what someone with a high strung Mars would do?! In all honesty, I cringe when I see mothers that look worn and torn and also miserable. I’m sure there are beautiful moments in all of that but it’s not for me.
We sound alike, the Mars thing and yoe were plutonic too right? I agree, that dead look in their faces, also the missbelief that they would gonna raise the child to "be a certain way". You can learn it,yeah but when you let the child go out to the real world.. there is so much **** that will shape that kid, often to something you really did not expect and wanted to. you can't control that. Also, how ungrateful many children are. I have 3 siblings. My mother is never apreciated by them in the way she deserves, if even that...
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vertiver Knowflake Posts: 2398 From: Portland, OR Registered: May 2009
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posted September 07, 2018 01:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by Radium: Girls have it way easier than guys it terms of relationships and social issues.Women are the image of beauty, you literally just have to sit there if you are "pretty" enough and the world will just give you everything. I got to thinking the other day that being a good looking man really does not help in the long run. Sure you may get noticed quicker but that is about it. Men and beauty don't equate. Men aren't judged by their looks or social skills but what we can provide and how confident we are. It honestly sucks because I know for a fact I'm a pretty decent looking guy but all I get in return is weaker men trying to one up everything I do, stalkers, and sh1t tested constantly. A lot of "good looking" dudes tend to actually have it pretty hard in life. Girls think your a player, like, it literally doesn't help at all unless you are like at a club or some **** . Other than being the physically weaker species girls tend to have it easier for the most part. Male suicide rates are higher than female. The world just expects you to get it together. If you come from a very small, disconnected family like me it's even tougher. Girls will say they are ugly or whatever and they get automatic reassurance, SOMEONE will be willing to help you. But for a dude? Ha. You better find a way.
Wow dude that is some sexist opinions right there. For example women being physically weaker. That is not true. Women come in all shapes in sizes, buddy. don't put your low self esteem issues on into the other gender. I can't believe no one pointed this out. Also women being "pretty" is a social construct that is created by our society. Also I work in a field that deals with death - and I see a far share of female suicides. My point is that it is hard to be human - don't stereotype genders. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 10190 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 07, 2018 01:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by Plut0nian2: I still feel bad for that baby. My mom kept it in hope that I would change my mind by trying to convince me how sweet it was, she made me take it out for a walk. That is when I tossed it away in a bin far from home
Hahahahahahahaha IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 10190 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 07, 2018 01:54 PM
In general these days there is an increase of both men and women not wanting kids, I think it was less stressful before to bring a child to the world, people had a lot more support and the cost of living was a lot lower, now both men and women work and most people in spite of this are living pay check to pay check so more people of both gender don't want to be bothered with kids bc is just too damn stressful.IP: Logged |
Plut0nian2 Knowflake Posts: 506 From: Registered: Apr 2014
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posted September 07, 2018 02:13 PM
Go PixieJane! I loved every part of your comment which I totally agree with! That is reality and that is exactly how marriage and children were seen (and are still seen by some) and of course you feel betrayed when you see the truth that everybody knew but no one told you. It's like a taboo thing admiting/talking about it. Melinn Hey Melinn we have some similarities for sure. I loved barbie dolls especially buying new clothes for them but I hated any abby doll or being a mother in any way. I loved animals (well not all of them) too! I am str8 forward too and I LOVE driving cars (well being in one since I don't know how to drive) that goes fast in a secure way. I love motorcycles even more because I feel like I'm flying. I have 5th house in Capricorn. Saturn conj Uranus in 4th house both Opposite my moon. And my strongest planet is, Pluto! Very plutonic. So I guess it shows in my chart I do not want kids that way. Hmm can it be a Saturn-Pluto thing in ones chart? It can be Saturn and Uranus in 4th H of family. And Capricorn 5th H (ruled by Saturn in 4th H). I feel it's both of this and your Aries energy. Because Aries are known to be selfish (not a bad thing at all unless he disrespects others and or expects others to do thing that he/she wouldn't). Wherever Saturn/Capricorn is make the person feel it like a burden. Capricorn/Saturn are supposed to make a person mature which may seem the opposite of what happens in reality since the person knows mentally how hard something moght be so decides to not do it in order to not burden himself. So Saturn knows how difficult it may be and prevents the person frkm doing it or brings external obstacles/difficulties. I have not only I have mostly feminine planets but Sun, Mercury, AsC and South Node are in Cancer! Uranus opposite ASC and Sun, Pluto in 5th H of children (can lead to someone strongly wanting to have or not have a child) and South Node in Cancer but 1sr H of Aries close to my Mercury in 1st H too! * Of course if I was a man I would want 3-4 kids too! I wouldn't need to do anything except of working like I would anyway do and seeing my children for an hour or so daily just to play/talk with them. I mean of course why not?
I don't agree about marriage and children because most marriages lead to divorce anyway even though they have children. Plus there are lot of men who don't want children. quote: Originally posted by charlie: I want to add to the “women want babies” thing. I WAS one of them but have realized, with age, that I don’t really like kids. I am fairly certain I only wanted A CHILD because when I was 17, I had a bad miscarriage and was told it’d be very difficult for me to conceive again. That activated the warrior in me and I wanted to “beat the system” and “beat physics” and “win the war” because isn’t that what someone with a high strung Mars would do?! In all honesty, I cringe when I see mothers that look worn and torn and also miserable. I’m sure there are beautiful moments in all of that but it’s not for me.
My aunt was like you, she never cared for children but when the doctor said that she wouldn't be able to have one she wanted one and the doctor was stupid because she got pregnant imediately. After giving birth she had already regreted it and have told me many times.. Her life sucks and she wants so mych to live a normal life but can not do even simple things because of her child. And that miserable look! Oh my God they all have it! It's so intense and I feel so sorry for them but then I am thinking "I warned you" it was their choice. They all think that it is a bit difficult in the first one or two years for some weird reason and then they freak out because many years pass but they don't see the ending to their prison it just gets worse. Plus most before giving birth believe that they won't be like other worn out lazy moms and will go out and do stuff because they feel like it's in your hand to do it and that you always have time if you want to. lol that's completely false and for some reason they are shocked when they realised that mothers become like this because it's the only way unless you are rich. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 10190 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 07, 2018 02:26 PM
Yes Pixie that has always been a complaint of mine that people never talk about the reality of motherhood, its a taboo or something and I feel the negative aspects of it should be talked about a lot more openly and talking about it should be normalized a lot more. If this was done, a lot MORE people that quite frankly probably shouldn't have kids would not have kids and more people who are truly meant for that kind of life would. Too many romanticize having kids end up having kids and are not fit parents. Having kids its for some people and can be wonderful for those people. But there is a biological urge to have kids, perhaps some women NEVER feel it but USUALLY in your teens and early early adulthood your biology overrides your logical mind, not to mention our brains are still developing till our mid 20s so our prefrontel cortex is still underdeveloped till then, this is part of the reason why car insurance goes down after 25....so I feel before you are 25 a lot of women feel an urge that is biological to procreate on a subconscious level although many don't act on it bc is not the "right" time and then after they are 25 it may be the "right time" but by then the urge is gone, is not nearly as strong and so they are less likely to act on it, by then you are more likely to make a decision using your logical mind after 25. So I am not going to pretend that biology doesn't exist either and that it does not impact us, both our biology and our environment influence us a lot, not just our environment. If there wasn't a biological urge built in to procreate there wouldn't be 7 billion people in the world and yes this biological urge is built in for both genders. IP: Logged |
Huldra Knowflake Posts: 32 From: Registered: Sep 2018
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posted September 07, 2018 03:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by Radium: Girls have it way easier than guys it terms of relationships and social issues.Women are the image of beauty, you literally just have to sit there if you are "pretty" enough and the world will just give you everything. I got to thinking the other day that being a good looking man really does not help in the long run. Sure you may get noticed quicker but that is about it. Men and beauty don't equate. Men aren't judged by their looks or social skills but what we can provide and how confident we are. It honestly sucks because I know for a fact I'm a pretty decent looking guy but all I get in return is weaker men trying to one up everything I do, stalkers, and sh1t tested constantly. A lot of "good looking" dudes tend to actually have it pretty hard in life. Girls think your a player, like, it literally doesn't help at all unless you are like at a club or some **** . Other than being the physically weaker species girls tend to have it easier for the most part. Male suicide rates are higher than female. The world just expects you to get it together. If you come from a very small, disconnected family like me it's even tougher. Girls will say they are ugly or whatever and they get automatic reassurance, SOMEONE will be willing to help you. But for a dude? Ha. You better find a way.
I dont agree with you. good looking women dont get more then attention many times, and that is until a sertain age. they also might have some power in ther early years, but in all the important things it is mostly men who get the power. get to have a saying, and gets so much easier a role in controlling this world, being able to change it. we are eachothers rolemodel, and we are eachothers mirror. we can make a bad reaction in others, but that is most commonly their wound within them re-acting. we are here to make eachother grow. find out what energy in you that causes them to stalk you , it might help. and do you know how much internal mess that is happening between women?
its not easy saying "i dont feel pretty". it might be showing weakness. and if you do, other girls will automaticly say "offcouse you are!", without thinking before speaking. so many are wounded, we cant stand having a friend expressing that, since it reflects something in us. if it is not a friend, then maybe they just say it shallowly. and offcourse there are truthfull persons that tell you you look pretty, if you do. but what I am trying to say is that this reassurement you are talking of is not always real, and because of that it peels of. why do you think males have a bigger suiciderate? why dont you communicate with eachother, or dear to show weakness? why do you so absolutly have to hold it toghether? (i am asking, because i am curious, i want to find this answer. we need it to heal the human race) i also say ; go femininsm. men also need it. you need us to balance out the male energies in this world, making room for feelings, individuals, and our bodys needs, , and more. making shure the values in this world also gets balanced, so that we can take better care of our selves, and be a better community. uniting in love. best wishes <3 IP: Logged |
Aries Eagle Moderator Posts: 1354 From: Λ Ἄρης Λ Registered: Jan 2013
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posted September 07, 2018 03:13 PM
Most 3rd world problems is from having too much children, and oh have i seen parents who dont deserve the gift of having a child.IP: Logged |
Plut0nian2 Knowflake Posts: 506 From: Registered: Apr 2014
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posted September 07, 2018 04:07 PM
Radium It's quite weord to me what you're saying. All a man has to do is find a job. 70% of women are good looking (especially now that it's easier than ever to be good looking even if you are not naturally) while maybe just a 20% of men are equally good looking. Men have so many choices while women don't when it comes to looks. On top of that it's so much more time and money consuming for a woman to take care of her appearance only to find someone meh looking. Women have periods, make bebies and let's be honest they raise them alone. A man will never understand because he doesn't want to. All men say "women are the ones that should naturally raise children" OF COURSE because it's the most convenient! I wouldn't have a problem to have 5 kids if I was a man because all I'll have to do is just work (something that I would anyway do even if I was single) and have happy play/talk time for an hour or two with my children every evening/night before they go to sleep. Women have to work, clean the house, cook for children and man, and take care of the children, their man and themselves onky to get cheated at some point. I mean come on.. I don't kniw if it's completely different where you are from but in my country and a few others I know it's the same. The woman is expected to do evrything while the man is just working and enjoys a clean hom and food ready and already taken care of kids. Ot's not even realistic. If you find it hard to even work imaging whay eomen are going through. quote: Originally posted by hypatia238: In general these days there is an increase of both men and women not wanting kids, I think it was less stressful before to bring a child to the world, people had a lot more support and the cost of living was a lot lower, now both men and women work and most people in spite of this are living pay check to pay check so more people of both gender don't want to be bothered with kids bc is just too damn stressful.
That's def true and part of the reason though you have to be logcal and responsible to even think of that because I know many who can barely afford food for themselves and still make babies. Plus I feel like many woke up and don't believe that having children is life's point. IP: Logged |
Melinn Knowflake Posts: 814 From: Sweden Registered: Jul 2017
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posted September 07, 2018 04:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
It can be Saturn and Uranus in 4th H of family. And Capricorn 5th H (ruled by Saturn in 4th H). I feel it's both of this and your Aries energy. Because Aries are known to be selfish (not a bad thing at all unless he disrespects others and or expects others to do thing that he/she wouldn't). Wherever Saturn/Capricorn is make the person feel it like a burden. Capricorn/Saturn are supposed to make a person mature which may seem the opposite of what happens in reality since the person knows mentally how hard something moght be so decides to not do it in order to not burden himself. So Saturn knows how difficult it may be and prevents the person frkm doing it or brings external obstacles/difficulties. I have not only I have mostly feminine planets but Sun, Mercury, AsC and South Node are in Cancer! Uranus opposite ASC and Sun, Pluto in 5th H of children (can lead to someone strongly wanting to have or not have a child) and South Node in Cancer but 1sr H of Aries close to my Mercury in 1st H too! * Of course if I was a man I would want 3-4 kids too! I wouldn't need to do anything except of working like I would anyway do and seeing my children for an hour or so daily just to play/talk with them. I mean of course why not?
I don't agree about marriage and children because most marriages lead to divorce anyway even though they have children. Plus there are lot of men who don't want children.
Yes you get me! <3 And thank you for that analyze, about saturn not wanna burden itself. Its absolutely just like that! I know, even without not having kids, that its a huge, huuge burden, mentally and in other ways too. And yes I'm selfish in the way that, I really care for my me time. Its like the oxygene mask in airplanes. You put the mask on your self first, then the others. I have to feel good in order to make my child, etc feel good. Unfortunately, that kind of partner that will help you with your burden 50/50, is nearly impossible to find imo. Also, I would never fel rested and happy with that mental burden anyway, so I would never be happy and be a good and happy mother to my child. And I would go crazy, about what to eat and not eat as pregnant. What to give the child and not to give it etc, I'm virgo asc and plutonic, I would get seriously INSANE about worrying about that kids health and education! And I'm also religious, and its too hard to raise a child in this world with values. Also, one other fear, I just don't wanna carry something in my body like an alien or parasite and also squize it out and risk getting ruptures and stitches down there. And net even be able to pee or poo or function normally, that happens to many miserable birth givers!
Yeah, if I was a guy, sure I would wan't 1-2 kids, I would just be a doner, and work all day and just come home to "pet" my child, very cynical but yeah thats the harsh truth in many cases. IP: Logged |
Plut0nian2 Knowflake Posts: 506 From: Registered: Apr 2014
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posted September 07, 2018 06:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by Melinn: Yes you get me! <3 And thank you for that analyze, about saturn not wanna burden itself. Its absolutely just like that! I know, even without not having kids, that its a huge, huuge burden, mentally and in other ways too. And yes I'm selfish in the way that, I really care for my me time. Its like the oxygene mask in airplanes. You put the mask on your self first, then the others. I have to feel good in order to make my child, etc feel good. Unfortunately, that kind of partner that will help you with your burden 50/50, is nearly impossible to find imo. Also, I would never fel rested and happy with that mental burden anyway, so I would never be happy and be a good and happy mother to my child. And I would go crazy, about what to eat and not eat as pregnant. What to give the child and not to give it etc, I'm virgo asc and plutonic, I would get seriously INSANE about worrying about that kids health and education! And I'm also religious, and its too hard to raise a child in this world with values.
This whole comment makes me feel like I wrote it myself (except of the rrligious part) under another nickname. You know it's better to not do it than do it wrong when it comes to such serious matters as having children. It's something that you will have to deal with for the rest of your life and you will never be able to take back. Plus you will do it alone, you can't count on anyone especially a man since they are very spoiled compared to women and it's mainly our fault. If I ever had a boy I woulf raise him the same way I would rais a girl when it comes to chores and family responsibilities. If you aren't able to support you and your child by yourself emotionally, practically and fincially then you shouldn't have one.. I can't imagine something more difficult than that. Like you I would get paranoid even about small things (I can't even cook for myself). It's true that if you'll feel miserable you will make your child feel like that too even unintentionally. quote:
Also, one other fear, I just don't wanna carry something in my body like an alien or parasite and also squize it out and risk getting ruptures and stitches down there. And net even be able to pee or poo or function normally, that happens to many miserable birth givers!
AMEN GIRL! It's the first time someone says that to me. In my case the problem is not only with me though.. I feel disgusted even seeing other women being pregnant. I feel disgusted when thinking that something is growing inside you/them like a parasite as you very well described it. quote:
Yeah, if I was a guy, sure I would wan't 1-2 kids, I would just be a doner, and work all day and just come home to "pet" my child, very cynical but yeah thats the harsh truth in many cases.
Exactly! Work is the best excuse where no one tells you anything. You are always justify if you say the magic word "work". Work is the best thing and the easiest plus most good paying (both literally and not) burden in the world. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 10190 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 08, 2018 12:52 PM
quote: Originally posted by vertiver: Wow dude that is some sexist opinions right there. For example women being physically weaker. That is not true. Women come in all shapes in sizes, buddy. don't put your low self esteem issues on into the other gender. I can't believe no one pointed this out. Also women being "pretty" is a social construct that is created by our society. Also I work in a field that deals with death - and I see a far share of female suicides. My point is that it is hard to be human - don't stereotype genders.
He is allowed to have an opinion you don't agree with and it doesn't make him sexist. I could call you a biology denier in the same fashion you are calling him sexist. No need to go there, you can just say "I don't agree with you and I feel blah blah blah." On average men tend to be a lot stronger than women, there are exceptions ofcourse but that is the general tendency bc of biological facts, they tend to have more testosterone and have more muscles. Evolutionary speaking we stayed behind to take care of the children while they went to hunt and fight so they evolved with different strengths body wise than ours. Now with plastic everywhere leading to increased estrogen levels in men this could start changing over time but I am not sure that is a good thing bc it may lead to women feeling less attracted to the opposite sex over time, its already happening. As for suicide rates, statistics have shown for a VERY long time that men have a much higher suicide success rate than women, do women also commit suicide? OFCOURSE but men have a much higher success rate. Could that change at some point? Perhaps but so far that has been the trend and is backed up by extensive data. IP: Logged |
Xodian Knowflake Posts: 989 From: Canada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 09, 2018 12:58 AM
Leo Ascendant Leo Moon Libra SunI used to do amateur modelling as a side gig during my younger years. Just gonna share this sample from way back when : What I have learned over the years that yes, while good looks do give you an edge in the social settings and Romance department, they really aren't a game clinching trait when it comes to life in general. If all you have got going in life in your looks (regardless of if you are a man or a woman) then I got an unfortunate truth to drop on ya; Looks fade. Comparing the image posted to what I look like today, I have to say that while I haven't exactly fallen from grace so to speak (I do keep my self in shape Lol!,) I certainly don't have the same level of impact that I used to. While some people might be satisfied with only nailing down the oh so prestigious accomplishment of looking pretty, the majority of us regular folks look for more than that in individuals; Might it be for professional reasons, Social and friendship reasons or for love. As such, for these reasons I don't place a GREAT deal of importance on my looks. Hell, you can sure bet that they are a well welcomed bonus Lol! But in the long run, there are other more important factors. I am more proud of my accomplishments than I am of my looks .
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Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 6090 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted September 09, 2018 02:42 AM
I strongly recommend Amy Schumner's (hope I spelt that right) "I feel Pretty" to this discussion.I had a couple of girls at the school I teach watch. Boys were not really interested because the title sounded "girly". But as male, it reiterated my first thought about beauty. Its how you " feel" more than how u look. Just adding to the discussion here  IP: Logged |
Xodian Knowflake Posts: 989 From: Canada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 09, 2018 09:24 PM
I refuse to see any thing with Amy Schumer in it . She is a female Ben Stiller (and I can't stand Ben Stiller.)IP: Logged |
Lerena Knowflake Posts: 1135 From: Registered: May 2015
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posted September 09, 2018 10:15 PM
I think I look gorgeous and I've heard this from other people too. Unfortunately, when I was younger, my eating habits weren't healthy. They still aren't healthy, but they aren't as bad as they were before.Because of my eating decisions in my younger years, my Sun sign is probably obvious. I have Sun and Venus in Taurus in 6th house. As soon as I heard from a professional that I was pre-diabetic from my eating habits, I cut back on how much I was eating and I lost a lot of weight just from not eating too much. I'm still classified as overweight, but I used to be obese. My current weight is around 145 lbs in American. I'm not sure what the other countries that use pounds are. Anyway, I'm roughly 5 feet and just barely short of 5'1''. My height is why I'm considered overweight. Maybe when Uranus transits my 6th house, it will help me actually get in shape. I used to be self-conscious about my small breasts. When I finally realized my breasts weren't going to grow any bigger, I was disappointed. At the very least, I'm not getting serious back pain from having breasts that are too big. However, with age, beauty fades. I like to be known for my personality more than my appearance. Yes, I'm gorgeous, but that doesn't mean I'm going to stay gorgeous. Aging is a thing and I happen to want a great deal more recognition for what's within. I have a personality and I hate when someone just notices me for my looks. Edit: I think that men get the short end of the stick when it comes to appearance. I'm not helping matters much since I prefer women, but my personal preferences when it comes to men aren't easy to find. Men don't seem to have as many options when it comes to fashion either. It's a bit depressing when a man wants to make an effort to look good and no one acknowledges it and just treats him badly. IP: Logged | |