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Topic: Fellow Cancer Risings: How does having Capricorn in the 7th House influence you?
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Leo-Cancer98 Knowflake Posts: 1939 From: Toronto,Ontario,Canada Registered: Nov 2014
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posted March 08, 2019 02:45 AM
quote: Originally posted by Lalafortunaea: Every Cancer riser I know is either married, has been, is remarried, or is thinking about getting married for the first time.
I’m not suprised. My sister has a Cancer Rising as well, and although she’s not as obsessed with babies, toddlers and young children as I am, she’s in complete agreement with me on why men (even women) bother starting and enduring in a relationship with someone (for 4-7 YEARS), that they have ZERO intention of eventually marrying and starting a family with. I don't understand why someone wouldn't WANT to marry someone they love? Even if it means going to courthouse and paying $300, but having the actual ceremony 1-2 years from then. Out of curiosity, do you have a general idea of how many Cancer Risings you know? I think what you said confirms that most Cancer ASC natives identifying with their (supposed) freedom-loving/non-commital Vedic Gemini Rising would not be that applicable/relatable. In my case, I’m pretty sure the ONLY reason I usually identify with half of the “Gemini Ascendant” interpretations is because it correlates with me having Mercury in the 3rd House. IP: Logged |
kani Knowflake Posts: 1181 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted March 08, 2019 03:10 AM
quote: Originally posted by Leo-Cancer98: I have a Fire Moon, yet I can’t wait to get married and 4 beautiful babies!!
I'm not surprised by that. In my circle the fire dominant people, especially Leo, want to get married and have kids. The Sages I know have married quite young as well but the Cancer influenced people really did not. Another Cancer moon friend of mine dislikes kids and never wants her own, she already had an abortion.
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kani Knowflake Posts: 1181 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted March 08, 2019 03:18 AM
quote: Originally posted by Leo-Cancer98: Hmm, a Cancer Rising AND Moon native not interested in marriage? How surprising. If you don’t mind me asking, which house is your Cancer Moon and what its tighest aspects? What sign is on your 5th cusp and what sign is intercepted in it? What is the ruler of your 5th House sign and is it placed anywhere in your chart?As for the marriage aspect of things, what sign is your Saturn in and is it placed in the 5th House of Children or 6th House of Routine & Everyday Life?
moon is in the first. Aries 23degrees made some really good posts about it in my thread (the link to the thread is in my answer to plutonian if you are interested), he explains how people with Cancer moon in the 1st can be averse to kids and marriage. The tightest aspect is trine to sun and then square to Pluto. The cusp of my 5th is Scorpio and Pluto, its ruler, is in the 4th (square to moon like I said). Intercepted sign is Sag and I have Uranus in my 5th. Saturn is in libra and it's in my 4th IP: Logged |
Leo-Cancer98 Knowflake Posts: 1939 From: Toronto,Ontario,Canada Registered: Nov 2014
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posted March 08, 2019 12:54 PM
quote: Originally posted by kani: I'm not surprised by that. In my circle the fire dominant people, especially Leo, want to get married and have kids. The Sages I know have married quite young as well but the Cancer influenced people really did not. Another Cancer moon friend of mine dislikes kids and never wants her own, she already had an abortion.
I don’t know my Grandma’s Ascendant, but she has a Cancer Moon, Venus & Mars and had 8 kids. IP: Logged |
Leo-Cancer98 Knowflake Posts: 1939 From: Toronto,Ontario,Canada Registered: Nov 2014
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posted March 08, 2019 12:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by kani: moon is in the first. Aries 23degrees made some really good posts about it in my thread (the link to the thread is in my answer to plutonian if you are interested), he explains how people with Cancer moon in the 1st can be averse to kids and marriage.The tightest aspect is trine to sun and then square to Pluto. The cusp of my 5th is Scorpio and Pluto, its ruler, is in the 4th (square to moon like I said). Intercepted sign is Sag and I have Uranus in my 5th. Saturn is in libra and it's in my 4th
According to this https://www.indastro.com/house/5th-house.html, the 5th House and the 5th House Lord deals with everything and anything related to children. I’ve heard that Uranus and Saturn in the 5th House are the Top 2 placements against having they’re own biological children. ------------------ Taurean Cancer Ascendant 2nd House Leo Sun 3rd House Leo Mercury 6th House Sagittarius Moon 1st House Cancer Venus 1st House Martian Cancer Mars
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kani Knowflake Posts: 1181 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted March 08, 2019 01:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by Leo-Cancer98: I don’t know my Grandma’s Ascendant, but she has a Cancer Moon, Venus & Mars and had 8 kids.
Wow she is a proper trooper! My grandma had 6 kids. Women back in the days just had many children, which was down to a) culture and b) lack of contraception. Many just didn't really have any other choice. But you are young so your grandma isn't that old either and might have already had access to contraception but chose to bear 8 kids. I imagine she is a very strong woman. IP: Logged |
Leo-Cancer98 Knowflake Posts: 1939 From: Toronto,Ontario,Canada Registered: Nov 2014
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posted March 09, 2019 01:47 PM
quote: Originally posted by kani: Wow she is a proper trooper! My grandma had 6 kids. Women back in the days just had many children, which was down to a) culture and b) lack of contraception. Many just didn't really have any other choice. But you are young so your grandma isn't that old either and might have already had access to contraception but chose to bear 8 kids. I imagine she is a very strong woman.
Haha, a proper trooper she was! She was only 4 ft 10 too, lol. I wonder if that's why my Mom is 5'6 and my Dad is 6'2, yet I'm only 5'3. Good point, I wonder if they had contraception in Haiti in the 1950s. She was a strong woman indeed, haha. They say house placements are a necessity to truly understand one's entire psyche, but I think my Grandma's strength came from her Virgo Sun in exact conjunction to Jupiter by a 0'37 degree orb, her Moon-Mars conjuntion by a 2'17 orb, and her Cancer Mars conjunct Pluto by a 7'50 orb. IP: Logged |
Plut0nian2 Knowflake Posts: 1182 From: Registered: Apr 2014
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posted March 09, 2019 03:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by Leo-Cancer98: I’m not suprised. My sister has a Cancer Rising as well, and although she’s not as obsessed with babies, toddlers and young children as I am, she’s in complete agreement with me on why men (even women) bother starting and enduring in a relationship with someone (for 4-7 YEARS), that they have ZERO intention of eventually marrying and starting a family with. I don't understand why someone wouldn't WANT to marry someone they love? Even if it means going to courthouse and paying $300, but having the actual ceremony 1-2 years from then.Out of curiosity, do you have a general idea of how many Cancer Risings you know? I think what you said confirms that most Cancer ASC natives identifying with their (supposed) freedom-loving/non-commital Vedic Gemini Rising would not be that applicable/relatable. In my case, I’m pretty sure the ONLY reason I usually identify with half of the “Gemini Ascendant” interpretations is because it correlates with me having Mercury in the 3rd House.
I know so many Cancer ASCs I can't even count them at this point (but mainly from forums, fewer in real life). The ones of my generation happen to have Uranus near or in 7th H cusp. Look for hard Uranus/Neptune hard aspects to Sun/Moon/Venus/angles because they both avoid reality in different ways for different reasons. Saturn is the one to bring delays. As a Cancer ASC, Sun, Mercury and SN, Pisces Moon, Leo Venus, Mars and Jup square Pluto. Pluto in my 5th H, even as a kid I couldn't stand having babies (dolls). I never wanted or felt the need to have children. Uranus & Neptune opposite my Sun and ASC Marriage as a ceremony seems ridiculous to me so does the wedding dress. I'm ok if it's needed for practical reasons but I will have the one where you just sign and that's it you're married (I don't know how it's called in English). I don't understand what the marriage ceremony has to do with love per se actually.
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Plut0nian2 Knowflake Posts: 1182 From: Registered: Apr 2014
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posted March 09, 2019 04:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by kani: Sure.here's a link to a thread I posted a while ago with my chart in it. I'm curious to know what you think - if we have similar stuff going on in our charts http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/240549.html
Thanks kani We have same ASC (15° Cancer mine) You have lots of Neptunian energy like I do. (Moon ruler or my chart in Pisces, Cancer Sun in 12th H, Neptune conjunct DSC exact) Maybe even more than I do. But less Uranian than I thought in your "relationship" areas. My Uranus is in 6th H conjuncting DSC by 3 orbs. However I feel it affecting me in both houses equally. 6th H is one of the worst houses for both Uranus and Neptune to be in due to them being the least realists. Completely out of topic but you're one more Aquarian Mercury that says things exactly as I feel them. I won't ever understand why I get along mentally with Aqua Mercuries. It's my 2nd favorite Mercury sign after Scorpio. IP: Logged |
kani Knowflake Posts: 1181 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted March 09, 2019 05:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by Plut0nian2: Thanks kani We have same ASC (15° Cancer mine) You have lots of Neptunian energy like I do. (Moon ruler or my chart in Pisces, Cancer Sun in 12th H, Neptune conjunct DSC exact) Maybe even more than I do. But less Uranian than I thought in your "relationship" areas. My Uranus is in 6th H conjuncting DSC by 3 orbs. However I feel it affecting me in both houses equally. 6th H is one of the worst houses for both Uranus and Neptune to be in due to them being the least realists. Completely out of topic but you're one more Aquarian Mercury that says things exactly as I feel them. I won't ever understand why I get along mentally with Aqua Mercuries. It's my 2nd favorite Mercury sign after Scorpio.
Uranus trines my sun, moon, mars and MC. If you count 6 degrees it also trines my AC. Uranus squares my mercury and it contraparallels my moon. It sits in the 5th and rules the 8th so that is quite a lot of Uranian influence I'd say as I think we should consider all Uranus aspects (not just the ones affecting relationships) when looking at how a person approaches relationships. Especially the 8th and 5th link of Uranus is telling when you look at the way I approach love. Interestingly, my boyfriend's brother is born a day before me and has practically the same chart. He works in IT though and has nothing to do with art (I do) or spirituality. A lot of neptune energy but you would never guess by looking at him.
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Leo-Cancer98 Knowflake Posts: 1939 From: Toronto,Ontario,Canada Registered: Nov 2014
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posted March 09, 2019 08:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by Plut0nian2: I know so many Cancer ASCs I can't even count them at this point (but mainly from forums, fewer in real life). The ones of my generation happen to have Uranus near or in 7th H cusp. Look for hard Uranus/Neptune hard aspects to Sun/Moon/Venus/angles because they both avoid reality in different ways for different reasons. Saturn is the one to bring delays. As a Cancer ASC, Sun, Mercury and SN, Pisces Moon, Leo Venus, Mars and Jup square Pluto. Pluto in my 5th H, even as a kid I couldn't stand having babies (dolls). I never wanted or felt the need to have children. Uranus & Neptune opposite my Sun and ASC Marriage as a ceremony seems ridiculous to me so does the wedding dress. I'm ok if it's needed for practical reasons but I will have the one where you just sign and that's it you're married (I don't know how it's called in English). I don't understand what the marriage ceremony has to do with love per se actually.
You must have Uranus in the 7th House of Commitment & Marriage. It's not about the ceremony, the expensive engagement ring, nor the big fancy party. It's about loving someone ENOUGH to say those marital vows And mean them, 'til death do you part. I have an exact Sun-Uranus opposition too  IP: Logged |
Plut0nian2 Knowflake Posts: 1182 From: Registered: Apr 2014
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posted March 10, 2019 12:50 AM
quote: Originally posted by kani: Uranus trines my sun, moon, mars and MC. If you count 6 degrees it also trines my AC. Uranus squares my mercury and it contraparallels my moon. It sits in the 5th and rules the 8th so that is quite a lot of Uranian influence I'd say as I think we should consider all Uranus aspects (not just the ones affecting relationships) when looking at how a person approaches relationships. Especially the 8th and 5th link of Uranus is telling when you look at the way I approach love. Interestingly, my boyfriend's brother is born a day before me and has practically the same chart. He works in IT though and has nothing to do with art (I do) or spirituality. A lot of neptune energy but you would never guess by looking at him.
I agree about 5th and 8th H, but I believe 5th H can be handled way more easily since it's the first stage (flirt). Saturn in 5th H is way more dificult than Uranus in 5th H. Are you uninterested in flirting or get excited easily and bored as easily? I have 2 friends born a few days before me, ine is 3 days and she has a different Moon sign and houses while the rest of the chary is the same. We are VERY different and our life is too. I also know a pair of twins birn a few minutes apart which haopens to make them have a few differences in their house placements because many of their planets are near their houses cusps. I believe in house placements and aspects being way more important than planets' signs. You have though Neptune aspects too though not just Piscean planets. Trines are considered soft aspects non problematic squares are "stronger" I'm interested to know how your 8th H Aqua and Mercury in it affect you as I have an 8th H Aqua with Saturn in there. IP: Logged |
Plut0nian2 Knowflake Posts: 1182 From: Registered: Apr 2014
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posted March 10, 2019 01:23 AM
quote: Originally posted by Leo-Cancer98: You must have Uranus in the 7th House of Commitment & Marriage. It's not about the ceremony, the expensive engagement ring, nor the big fancy party. It's about loving someone ENOUGH to say those marital vows And mean them, 'til death do you part. I have an exact Sun-Uranus opposition too 
No I have Uranus in 6th H conjuncting the 7th H, I actually mentioned it in the comment you quoted that I have Uranus and Neptune opposite ASC ☺ See that's what I don't get. If it's not about the ceremony/ring/dressing and being showy then why actually do them? I am doing exactly the same by signing a paper without all those extras. I wish marriage meant what you say it does but honestly it doesn't mean a thing these days. People get married for a million different reasons other than love. Cheating and divorces are at their best. What I mean is that if I wanted and was able to be with someone then I would prove it by doing so everyday, by being there for him. I don't need marriage to prove it, because in reality marriage means nothing to most people, it's just a typical procedure. It honestly doesn't measure how much you love someone. It doesn't have a "magic" power detecting someone's love, faithfullness and duration. When it will then I'll be in for it, till then I'll keep trusting spy programs 😁😁😁 Oops! excuse my Pluto. IP: Logged |
kani Knowflake Posts: 1181 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted March 10, 2019 03:40 AM
quote: Originally posted by Plut0nian2: I agree about 5th and 8th H, but I believe 5th H can be handled way more easily since it's the first stage (flirt). Saturn in 5th H is way more dificult than Uranus in 5th H. Are you uninterested in flirting or get excited easily and bored as easily? I have 2 friends born a few days before me, ine is 3 days and she has a different Moon sign and houses while the rest of the chary is the same. We are VERY different and our life is too. I also know a pair of twins birn a few minutes apart which haopens to make them have a few differences in their house placements because many of their planets are near their houses cusps. I believe in house placements and aspects being way more important than planets' signs. You have though Neptune aspects too though not just Piscean planets. Trines are considered soft aspects non problematic squares are "stronger" I'm interested to know how your 8th H Aqua and Mercury in it affect you as I have an 8th H Aqua with Saturn in there.
Uranus in 5th I'd say is in my case mainly about not wanting kids and having to have maximum freedom in self expression. Being a bit eccentric and weird to others. Hard to say how I am at flirting. I really can't give you a good answer to that but I lean towards not really interested in flirting. I know I have tough Neptune aspects, but so does the brother of my boyfriend. (He even has the same moon sign.) So he is Neptunian by aspects as well. (maybe even more than me if some of his planets fall in his 12th) but looking at his life, I don't see it playing out. He earns quite a lot of money with work based on logical thinking (programming), being able to not work much and he travels a lot. But he did have a totally different start than me with a family who has way more money than mine so that definitely helped. But he does earn his own money, he is not reliant on family. People in IT earn a lot anyway usually (lucky ******** ). I work as a script writer and film maker which is such a typical profession for people with strong Neptune. Making up stories but also developing them and building believable characters comes naturally to me. Mercury in 8 comes into play here, too, because one of the consistencies of my life was my observation of other people and their behaviour, even as a small child. So I became very good at figuring people and their motives out rather quickly. This tremendously helps with character development in script writing and I cringe every time when I see a character break in other films = a character not acting like he/she really would. Another big thing with Mercury in 8 is that I'm highly fascinated by the dark side of humanity, things that are deemed taboo and that people usually don't like to talk or think about because they digust or scare them. I can sniff out lies very quickly and it makes me wary of people/not open up easily but that also could be my moon/pluto. I even thought about studying criminal psychology after school but then decided on something else. IP: Logged |
Leo-Cancer98 Knowflake Posts: 1939 From: Toronto,Ontario,Canada Registered: Nov 2014
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posted March 10, 2019 11:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by Plut0nian2: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Leo-Cancer98: [b] You must have Uranus in the 7th House of Commitment & Marriage. It's not about the ceremony, the expensive engagement ring, nor the big fancy party. It's about loving someone ENOUGH to say those marital vows And mean them, 'til death do you part. I have an exact Sun-Uranus opposition too 
No I have Uranus in 6th H conjuncting the 7th H, I actually mentioned it in the comment you quoted that I have Uranus and Neptune opposite ASC ☺ [/B][/QUOTE] Uranus in conjunction with the 7th House is equivalent to having a 7th House Uranus. My Pluto is at the very end of the 5th House, a degree away from the 6th, and I don’t relate to “Pluto in the 5th House” at all. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 6064 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted March 11, 2019 12:25 AM
quote: Originally posted by Leo-Cancer98: Uranus in conjunction with the 7th House is equivalent to having a 7th House Uranus. My Pluto is at the very end of the 5th House, a degree away from the 6th, and I don’t relate to “Pluto in the 5th House” at all.
How can Uranus be conjunct with the 7th house? Do you mean Uranus is conjuncts the 7th house ruler? IP: Logged |
Plut0nian2 Knowflake Posts: 1182 From: Registered: Apr 2014
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posted March 11, 2019 06:41 AM
quote: Originally posted by Leo-Cancer98: Uranus in conjunction with the 7th House is equivalent to having a 7th House Uranus. My Pluto is at the very end of the 5th House, a degree away from the 6th, and I don’t relate to “Pluto in the 5th House” at all.
Maybe you are born at least a minute later? I feel Uranus affrcting my 6th and 7th H equally IP: Logged |
Plut0nian2 Knowflake Posts: 1182 From: Registered: Apr 2014
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posted March 11, 2019 06:53 AM
quote: Originally posted by ChildofVenus: How can Uranus be conjunct with the 7th house? Do you mean Uranus is conjuncts the 7th house ruler?
No, Uranus conjunct the 7th H means Uranus conjunct the 7th H cusp, the DSC. Let's say you have 7th H in 15 Capricorn and your 8th H cusp is in 15 Aqua. You have Uranus in 17 Capricorn and Neptune in 5 Aqua. They are both in the 7th H but Uranus is conjunct the 7th H (meaning the 7th H cusp, the DSC) because it's just 2 orbs away from it. While Neptune is just in the 7th H. In the above example let's change Uranus degrees, say it's in 13 Capricorn which puts Uranus in the 6th H but it's still conjuncting the 7th H/DSC. So it affects both the 6th H which it is in and the 7th H because it conjuncts it. IP: Logged |
Plut0nian2 Knowflake Posts: 1182 From: Registered: Apr 2014
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posted March 11, 2019 07:18 AM
kani Interesting, I wanted to ask you if you do a Neptunian related job because of your Mars in Pisces and in 10th H and you Neptune in 6th H. So Uranus makes you indifferent towards flirt. Uranus is detatchment and I feel like that in my Uranus and Aqua houses. I was told that my Uranus conjuncting DSC is what makes technology and astrology so interesting to me plus Saturn in 8th H aqua is what makes interested in them after so many years. What you say about observing humans is bith Pluto square Moon which is very tight in your case and Mercury in 8th H. Do you know your boyfriend's brother birthtime? I'm getting curious to compare your charts. IP: Logged |
SunAscendant Knowflake Posts: 3053 From: California Registered: Oct 2014
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posted March 11, 2019 10:47 PM
I tend to date Capricorn sun and/or Capricorn Mars men. My moon is in Capricorn and is my North Node so I'm drawn towards them anyways.IP: Logged |
Plut0nian2 Knowflake Posts: 1182 From: Registered: Apr 2014
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posted March 12, 2019 06:23 AM
quote: Originally posted by SunAscendant: I tend to date Capricorn sun and/or Capricorn Mars men. My moon is in Capricorn and is my North Node so I'm drawn towards them anyways.
Same here Capricorn Venus men conjunct Saturn the last one was also a Cap Mars and I had Cap Suns and Mercuries too. (Although I don't date). Cap 7th H with Uranus, Neptune and North Node in it. Do they also have Scorpio in their chart? For me this mix is a standard
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vansio Knowflake Posts: 2456 From: the outskirts of Delphi Registered: Dec 2017
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posted March 12, 2019 06:43 AM
Cancer rising, really attracted to Capricorn Venus men, especially the ones that conjunct my 8th house Capricorn moon - except they haven’t seemed to take me seriously. It’s like they want the ‘look’ or ‘dynamic with’ a Capricorn woman (I find they confuse this with Scorpionic or Lilith considering who they go after instead) not the essential nature. I could be mistaken because of my moon influence but we are asking about Cancer rising...My longest relationship was Saturn-riddled with a Virgo-Libra (4th house). IP: Logged |
kani Knowflake Posts: 1181 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted March 12, 2019 10:42 AM
quote: Originally posted by vansio: Cancer rising, really attracted to Capricorn Venus men, especially the ones that conjunct my 8th house Capricorn moon - except they haven’t seemed to take me seriously. It’s like they want the ‘look’ or ‘dynamic with’ a Capricorn woman (I find they confuse this with Scorpionic or Lilith considering who they go after instead) not the essential nature. I could be mistaken because of my moon influence but we are asking about Cancer rising...My longest relationship was Saturn-riddled with a Virgo-Libra (4th house).
That's interesting. There was a guy who had a profound effect on me and he was sun and Mars in Virgo with Venus and merc in Libra. He had a mainly strong sexual effect on me (not really that much emotionaly). His Venus and Mercury both fall in my 4th
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Plut0nian2 Knowflake Posts: 1182 From: Registered: Apr 2014
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posted March 12, 2019 11:57 AM
VansioI know women with Cap Moon, mostly earth and water signs in their charts (no Cap DSC) plus with Neptune and Uranus in Cap who aren't interested in Caps at all. All the men I've been attracted to have Venus in Cap conjunction Saturn and other Cap (my 7th H) and Scorpio (my 5th H) planets. I believe the 5th, 7th and 8th H are what we attract are attracted generally. Do you have any planets in your 7th H? IP: Logged |
vansio Knowflake Posts: 2456 From: the outskirts of Delphi Registered: Dec 2017
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posted March 12, 2019 12:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by Plut0nian2: Do you have any planets in your 7th H?
Yep — Neptune and Uranus in 7th house IP: Logged |