posted March 14, 2019 02:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
so about 8 years ago i answered what i was told was a calling dream regarding dionysus dionysus (my ex told me what it was and how to answer it and i was drunk so i wanted to see what would happen, went through a lot of weird **** before and since then so it seemed like a good idea) since then i've studied/practiced the occult pretty deeply and i gotta say the view of dionysus/bacchus people have isn't really close to the actual mythology at all and he's a misrepresented god in a lot of aspects

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What is it what you have seen/felt about Bacchus/Dionysos? I'm curious.

posted March 14, 2019 03:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Before my experiences with Taurus, I read much of what you said i.e Taurus being stable and Libra being a people pleaser etc.

Though much of what you said of Libra I can support. My experience with Taurus so far has been the reverse i.e not stable, erratic, insecure etc.

Ofcourse aspects in the individual chart do count. So perhaps the Taurus guys I bump into are an exception to the rule?

I find with Libra I fare better(despite the dithering). It could be because of my Sun/Asc being in masculine signs. But I touch base with many.

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I was interested in astrology when I was younger and then lost interest for quite a while, but being with my bf and seeing how stereotypically he acts for a Taurus brought me back into astrology. He only has the sun in Taurus but he just so fits the description. I even guessed his sign before we met in person (he sent me a photo). And really all of Taureans I met and got to know a bit better had this stable/stubborn streak. With stable I mean not easily angered/impressed by others emotions/wants/opinions.

posted March 14, 2019 03:36 PM            

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I was interested in astrology when I was younger and then lost interest for quite a while, but being with my bf and seeing how stereotypically he acts for a Taurus brought me back into astrology. He only has the sun in Taurus but he just so fits the description. I even guessed his sign before we met in person (he sent me a photo). And really all of Taureans I met and got to know a bit better had this stable/stubborn streak. With stable I mean not easily angered/impressed by others emotions/wants/opinions.

I also like the Librans in my life. My aunt and one of my favourite cousins are Libras and while my cousin can be a people pleaser my aunt actually can be very confrontational when I think about it. she can also be very emotional and fiery , just like most of the family regardless of zodiac sign haha.

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posted March 14, 2019 03:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Wow. Able to guess his Sun sign ?That's impressive. I can guess aspectss/Mars/Venus or Moon. But rarely the Sun.

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posted March 14, 2019 04:21 PM            

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What is it what you have seen/felt about Bacchus/Dionysos? I'm curious.

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to give a little background story on how that all went down i've had weird experiences my entire life (shared dreams with people, dreams that have come true, out of body experiences etc and so on) and on my 22nd birthday i had this pcp blackout

when i came out of i was in the middle of having sex so it was really basically like void meditation except i was awake, finished because i was already in the middle of something but afterwards i was pretty bothered by it all and pcp lasts a while anyway so i was still high ended up autowriting all this **** figured it was just the drugs since it was all crazy so i threw it away but it was burned into my memory because it was crazy

years later i met a woman who i wrote i would meet, she fit the exact description and said things i wrote she would say

she had been studying for 10 years at that point, taught me to open my 3rd eye (which resulted in me having consistent weird experiences with deer in meditation, dreams, and irl among other things) and then she got curious about our connection

she did this past life ritual that i didn't take seriously until it started to have results and made me feel insane for a while (the memories tied to a place i felt deja vu being in years before on vacation) they were all historically accurate (i had a friend do research she was able to narrow it down to a span of 40 years based on everything i described) and included occult rituals and such

anyway i'm explaining this to explain why i responded to the "calling" dream which was me following a deer to a temple that was covered in vines and inside it was like a party frozen in time

statues made of petrified wood of women dancing and sartyrs and centaurs playing instruments everyone drinking wine

everything was covered in vines and i walked up a stair case to a balcony that overlooked everything and when i stood at the head of the table i woke up

when i told her about it she said it was an obvious calling dream from him (when i first had the experience with deer she told me a god connected to nature was trying to get my attention, but i didn't really bother with pursuing anything i was uninterested at the time) and told me how to answer

i did and that first night i had what she told me was a visitation dream where i was told that i could accept my path or go mad trying to avoid it

told her about it did another offering had another dream where i was shown all the ways avoiding things could go and told to think about it

then nothing for a bit, had another dream walking down a path being told that's where i was headed and shown things that would never happen in these flowers along a vine that looked like moonflowers(found out bindweed was a symbol connected to him after looking up things in that dream) and told to keep going and everything would go as it's meant to

since then i've met other people who have had shared memories, i've done research on the occult rituals based on the "memories" i've experienced that ended up being legit, i've learned some basics with healing with my hands and pain relief through those as well and just instinct i've never studied reiki or anything it's just a natural thing, i've met people who have confirmed other things that i've wrote that i'll keep private for now etc and so on

the deeper i dig the more in it i end up

i actually only learned astrology in the hopes that maybe i'd meet some other pagan chick to mess around with who might know some things, so far that hasn't worked out i just know how to read charts now lol but i'll see i guess there's still time for that

it's all a long story in all honesty, but as far as those visitation dreams and everything go it's been a lot of "you're on your own good luck" sort of sentiments

the past life ritual **** made me feel crazy and that + other issues led to a suicide attempt that failed, but actually helped with the intensity of that so that was a nice perk

then i got sick and have been for years which has kind of forced me to spend a lot of time endlessly reading things waiting for things to come up though i admittedly spent a lot of years just following things i've dreamt about to get to where i am currently as far as learning **** goes

**** like energy manipulation, manifestation etc and so on i'm sure if you know stuff about the occult you have a fair idea of how all this works

posted March 14, 2019 07:18 PM            

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Wow. Able to guess his Sun sign ?That's impressive. I can guess aspectss/Mars/Venus or Moon. But rarely the Sun.

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posted March 14, 2019 11:28 PM            

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I recall that whenever I relay a story to my Libra Sun/Moon friend, his first question is always "but what did.you do to make the person act this way?" etc.

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This sounds EXACTLY like my Libra Sun friend! And I always felt that she was blaming me... like everything must be MY fault. It felt so disheartening and after awhile I stopped telling her my problems. She has Sun square Saturn as well and it makes her Libra traits come across harsh and unsympathetic.

Another Libra Sun friend w/o Saturn aspects doesn't come across this way, so I think Saturn plays a part here.

Two other Libra moons I know always appear "nonchalant" like there's no ripple in their hearts. One of them is my sis-in-law and her husband has a Scorpio moon. I think he does all the emoting in the relationship. 😅

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I also find myself doing this(Moon in 3rd bouse of Gemini) where I will ask the person concerned if they have considered the other person's perspective etc.

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Actually I do this as well, but not in the way my Libra Sun friend does. I will ask for a rundown of the event, analyse the whys and provide an assessment. I've nothing in 3rd house. I think it's my Mercury sextile Saturn or Gemini rising.

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The environment at home was the type where Mom went in her room and went through their stuff.

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Hey, this sounds like my mom. 🤯 She used to do that and I HATED it. We had world wars. I've Sun quincunx Pluto but my mom was the invasive one.

Talking about my mom... when I read up on Moon-Saturn I thought I must have this aspect because my mom always felt cold & distant, but I was surprised when I don't see it in my natal. However, I recently realised that I have Moon contra-parallel Saturn (1°13 orb) so declinations do count.

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Sun-Pluto suggests an individual whose dating life ends / culminates in much emotional drama. Or the individual becomes very involved in their dating life and may attract people with very strong(almost overbearing) personalities.

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Attracting strong personalities, yes. Dramas, no. Almost all the people close to me have some Pluto in their chart. My dad is a plutonic with fixed water. He isn't outrightly invasive but I know he watches in the background... like he observes everything. I think he'll make a very good uncover, lol.

The last 2 guys I was with - one has Pluto square Sun, sextile Moon/Mercury; another one has Pluto conj Moon, square Mars. The first guy came across more jealous & possessive and because of his Leo stellium I always knew how he felt.

The 2nd guy (the Libra Moon) is the one I can't figure out. He should be possessive but he always acted like nothing I did bothered him, so I would go about doing what I wanna do, but he would then say things that suggested he was bothered..that he was watching me, so I feel that the Libra Moon really comes through...like they have to maintain calm and rational even if they don't feel that way deep down.

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posted March 15, 2019 06:23 AM            

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how do you manage to guess aspects? How does that work? I'm intrigued.
I can kinda sense energy and Taurus energy just seems to jump at me

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I don't know what I do exactly. I guess it just comes naturally now. But I can sit with someone or watch someone being interviewed and "guess" their aspects.

If the person has Mars in aspect to Sun/Moon/Mars, they will be very excitable. Moon/Mars especially can be charismatic or extremely rowdy.

I watched "Braxton family values" and immediately guessed that Tamar Braxton(the loudest of the bunch) has Moon/Mars in aspect . And sure enough, her Moon conjuncts Mars.

Nicole Kidman I have always found "icy".This despite her Moon/Venus and Saturn in fire. I guessed a Saturn/Venus or Saturn/Moon aspect with her since she appears so formal in interviews.

And sure enough Saturn trines Moon,squares Mercury,trines Venus, opposes Mars and trines Jupiter.

Hillary Clinton struck me as more "masculine" than her husband Bill. Very "take charge" kind of person. So I guessed Mars/Mercury likely in aspect with her. Since her speeches aareso impassioned.

I also thought of Mars/Venus in aspect(since she appears more "butch" than her hubby). As Venus represents our more feminine side and Moon is our inner nature.

So most women with Mars in aspect to either often appear to be the ones who wear the pants. The guys they are with appear more "feminine" by comparison.

Hillary has Pluto on Mercury,Venus,Mars,Saturn and Chiron square. With Mars on Mercury/Venus(as I guessed but eclipsed by super Pluto).

Now the exact square of Pluto on Mars would explain why people find her "threatening" for a "woman". Her ambition is amplified by Pluto.

Even Jussie Smollet came across very "Neptune" to me. Something about him on the series seemed more soft vulnerable. Somewhat also."troubled"

Sure he has Moon/Sun conjuct. But the Neptune/Sun and Neptune/Moon opposition is stronger. This supported by passive Mars in Libra in aspect to Moon. And this is the "troubled" energy I picked up.

Men with Moon/Mars in aspect often appear "troubled" or somewhat "brooding". Whilst women ( as said earlier) are "butchified".

Moon-Mars Marlon Brando(Movie star)
Moon-Mars Larry Hagman(JR Ewing from "Dallas")

Tom Hiddleston was the latest one. His eloquence in an interview had me think a prominent Mercury i.e its either he has Sun/Mercury in aspect or Merc/Jupiter. Plus I could relate to him a great deal(His Moon is conjunct my Asc exact)

posted March 15, 2019 07:53 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29: This sounds EXACTLY like my Libra Sun friend! And I always felt that she was blaming me... like everything must be MY fault. It felt so disheartening and after awhile I stopped telling her my problems. She has Sun square Saturn as well and it makes her Libra traits come across harsh and unsympathetic.

Another Libra Sun friend w/o Saturn aspects doesn't come across this way, so I think Saturn plays a part here.

Two other Libra moons I know always appear "nonchalant" like there's no ripple in their hearts. One of them is my sis-in-law and her husband has a Scorpio moon. I think he does all the emoting in the relationship. 😅

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Libra wants to remove themselves personally from any situation and see things most "objectively". And since Libra is exalted when in Saturn, Saturn adds an uncharacteristically poignant "coldness" to the even tempered Libra.

My ex had Sun/ Saturn conjunct ,Saturn/Moon conjunct and Pluto conjunct all(by eclipsing them). Never have I been with someone who was on one hand, so good-looking. But such an stuck up d** all at once.

I think Pluto uses power covertly well in Libra. It seems to negate the "in your face" potent effect of Pluto. Instead it seems to make the energy of Pluto less passionate & more calculating i.e using looks to overpower others or seduce them etc.

I have Saturn/Venus in 7th(similar effect to Saturn-Venus in Libra) with Pluto also in 7th. So I am always removing emotional extremes(sometimes unsuccessfully) from situations.

So to my partners, I come across "judgmental" mkre than caring sometimes. And even with my Mars/Pluto in 7th. The fact that Mars is in Libra and Pluto is the Libra ruled 7th(Literally in my case). I tend to control my passionate impulses under an umbrella of "niceties". I use Venus to meet the ends of my goals.

To a certain extent this is true. I "pretty" myself up when dealing with the public and assert myself in a non threatening way. As I make use of the iron hand with velvet glove strategy lot.

And in as far as Moon in Lib with Sco Moon? I think Libra Moon is often drawn to agressive types i.e Aries,Mars/Moon, Scorpio,Pluto/Moon etc. so that they can project their more aggressive side to the partner.

Libra after all is the "mirror" effect. So they like to look at their partner and be "beautified" through them. And sometimes this includes them standing out as the "pretty" one, the "reasonable" one etc.

I know numerous Libra Moon and Suns who date people that are a stark contrast to them or maintain friendships with people that can be closely described as "ass****" etc.

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:Actually I do this as well, but not in the way my Libra Sun friend does. I will ask for a rundown of the event, analyse the whys and provide an assessment. I've nothing in 3rd house. I think it's my Mercury sextile Saturn or Gemini rising.

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Yes. I think this could be it.

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Originally posted by Hikaru29: Hey, this sounds like my mom. 🤯 She used to do that and I HATED it. We had world wars. I've Sun quincunx Pluto but my mom was the invasive one.

Talking about my mom... when I read up on Moon-Saturn I thought I must have this aspect because my mom always felt cold & distant, but I was surprised when I don't see it in my natal. However, I recently realised that I have Moon contra-parallel Saturn (1°13 orb) so declinations do count.

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Absolutely true. Declinations do factor in.I often underuse them.But they do count. Add this Moon-Saturn parallel as part in parcel of what was said above with Mercury-Saturn.

Moon is also the "emotional mind". And Saturn tends to restrain emotions and gives a more analytical approach to viewing things

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Attracting strong personalities, yes. Dramas, no. Almost all the people close to me have some Pluto in their chart. My dad is a plutonic with fixed water. He isn't outrightly invasive but I know he watches in the background... like he observes everything. I think he'll make a very good undercover, lol.

The last 2 guys I was with - one has Pluto square Sun, sextile Moon/Mercury; another one has Pluto conj Moon, square Mars. The first guy came across more jealous & possessive and because of his Leo stellium I always knew how he felt.

The 2nd guy (the Libra Moon) is the one I can't figure out. He should be possessive but he always acted like nothing I did bothered him, so I would go about doing what I wanna do, but he would then say things that suggested he was bothered..that he was watching me, so I feel that the Libra Moon really comes through...like they have to maintain calm and rational even if they don't feel that way deep down.

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Look also to the fact that Pluto is in Libra.As I said before, Libra negates the passionatr zest of Pluto to a more calculating energy.

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Originally posted by Hikaru29: I find this so exasperating. The Libra Moon guy would rile me up but when I reciprocate, he backed away.

I showed him the middle finger once (lol) because I really couldn't stand the things coming outta his mouth. "Don't text me because you would think of me... I wanna sleep with you but I don't want to do that because you would miss me after that...", he said. Is that him projecting how he felt on me??

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Libra to me is a fence sitter and as said earlier, they end up with more aggressive/assertive mates by default of being so evasive(Pisces is a close 2nd to this barring Mars aspects).

So I seldom crack my skull trying to figure out what they mean. As they are seldom clear on their intent as well.

What I do is stick with "I love you. I want you. I need you. You mean the world to me. I can't live without you" etc. This is music to their ears. Sweet sweet music.

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"I tend to control my passionate impulses under an umbrella of "niceties""

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This sounds oddly familiar. The Libra Moon also always looks cool, nice and polite (perhaps Virgo influence) but he has all these dirty thoughts in his head (lol). His Pluto also square Mars, on top of conjunction to Moon. I feel that because he knows he has this deep reservoir of emotions, he tries hard to keep them under control. This is the kinda vibe I got from him. An astrologer who saw his chart said he seems to have trouble expressing his emotions. I wonder which aspect caused that?

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And in as far as Moon in Lib with Sco Moon? I think Libra Moon is often drawn to agressive types i.e Aries,Mars/Moon, Scorpio,Pluto/Moon etc. so that they can project their more aggressive side to the partner.

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I personally find the fire Moons more aggressive (at least outwardly so) and more impatient. Scorpio does it in a covert manner and they're really good at buying time, IME. Very focused and patient at getting what they want.

Interestingly, Libra Moons and Sag Moons often get together. Two of my Sag Moon friends were married to Libra Moon and the unions lasted very long. My closest friend in School is also a Libra Moon. These 2 Moon signs seem to just attract each other.

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What I do is stick with "I love you. I want you. I need you. You mean the world to me. I can't live without you" etc. This is music to their ears. Sweet sweet music.

If you want clarity. You will be dissapointed. Just assert yourself softly on them and assure them that you will not give up on them etc. They love that.

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posted March 16, 2019 07:37 AM            

Libra Moon(even with the added Pluto/Saturn aspects) are great for friendship. But there is no way I will date an air moon sign. Sun sign? Yes. Moon sign? Nope!

The push/pull dynamic you speak of and feel on a gut level is why I will not. Not ever. Coz I think that they are weary of fire; whether its the fire of disagreement or passionate love(therein lies the rub).

I think what they expect is you to "contain"your feelings more or learn to refrain from being flamboyant etc

posted March 16, 2019 08:35 AM            

I am sorry things didn't work out. And perhaps the "in time you will heal" et. sounds all cliche. But I will say that dealing with emotionally cryptic or unavailable people gets lame as I get older. So I cut them off

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I am sorry things didn't work out. And perhaps the "in time you will heal" et. sounds all cliche. But I will say that dealing with emotionally cryptic or unavailable people gets lame as I get older. So I cut them off

posted March 16, 2019 12:58 PM            

I know a Taurus Sun, Libra Moon and Asc and she is definitely one that needs to be in control in her relationships (Scorpio Mars in the first). Though she is also a Aries Mercury and Gemini Venus trine Asc.

From a 3rd person POV it seems that a lot of the issues present in her relationships are because of her tendency to start a figjt rather than work things out. She gets too impatient and will want to start arguing when things aren't going the way sje wants them too and it will end up blowing out of proportion. She has a poor grip on her anger and it is probably due to her abusive father (Scorpio stellium with Gemini Moon) who always made her feel like she had to walk on eggshells around him. When he died she pretty much went to the opposite end of the spectrum and now can be too abrasive and brash for her own good.

She needs someone who is willing to be patient with her and not try to ignite the arguments that she tends to start. Majority of the time it seems that she just expects everyone else to put up with what she is going through at the moment but doesn't take the time to actually consider the other person's perspective. The last person she was with (Leo Sun, Sag Moon, Aquarius ASC) constantly would act like he was perfectly fine when you could easily tell something was bothering him, and it probably contributed to their lack of development in the relationship.

I think the Libra in her cares too much about what other people think or do, and when someone hurts her she thinks that she has to fly off in a psychotic rage in ordee to get back at said person. We had gotten into a fight and stopped talking for a year, and when my mom died she was the one that came back to me in tears over the situation. Honestly, had she not come back I probably wouldn't be talking to her still.

posted March 17, 2019 02:39 AM            

The "numbing" of emotions is something I recognize and can agree with. A fear of intensity.

Its ironic because Libr Moon when adamant about a point can argue and pursue it like a dog with a bone. Thus getting responses from others that are more passionate etc.

What planets aspect the Ic ruler for the Libra person spoken of? The Scorpio Sun/Gemini Moon combo is one of tge most challenging imo(I feel the same about Cap Sun/Gem Moon).

posted March 17, 2019 07:58 AM            

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You sound really passionate.Just like me you want to keep the momentum and spark going lol. So the Libra Moon's more cool and evasive approach, looks very push/pull to you. I hear you.

Libra Moon(even with the added Pluto/Saturn aspects) are great for friendship. But there is no way I will date an air moon sign. Sun sign? Yes. Moon sign? Nope!

The push/pull dynamic you speak of and feel on a gut level is why I will not. Not ever. Coz I think that they are weary of fire; whether its the fire of disagreement or passionate love(therein lies the rub).

I think what they expect is you to "contain"your feelings more or learn to refrain from being flamboyant etc

Interestingly, I see more Cap Moons and Virgo Moon involved with Libra Moons on my end. I don't know how the Sag match-up may work as Sag Moon can be extremely boisterous and excitable ime.Lol

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Libra & Sag are sextile signs... why wouldn't they work? One major factor is Libra loves peace and Sag is easy-going. This alone helps them get along most of the time. And being a mutable sign, Sag is usually very willing to follow Libra's plans but will also encourage Libra to step outta its comfort zone. Both signs are also very forgiving because Sag suffers from amnesia (lol) and Libra just wants to keep peace.

Libra Moons can also be playful actually. My Libra Moon guy is always teasing me so they're actually not all cool cucumber. My observation is that Libra Moons seem to be very tickled by Sag Moons because of how funny we can be w/o trying, and that's what my Libra Moon guy told me.

My Libra Moon guy likes my passionate side, he said. I guess as long as I don't use it in conflicts. lol.

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Also mars-venus square=Push and pull? Between cap and libra.
Also Aries Moon opposite Libra venus. Problems with females?

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I've the same aspects. Sometimes I do the push/pull thing. E.g. if my man constantly wants to sleep with me I would think "OMG he only wants sex", but if he stops touching me I go "Oh no, he has lost interest in me". This caused me to respond erratically at times. I don't know if this is why your guy pulls back because when you reciprocated his feelings, he didn't know how to react.

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ok that made me laugh. I actually call my Taurus boyfriend Bacchus sometimes because of his lazy and indulging behaviour. He can be so persistently lazy it's incredible. He lays in bed, half naked, and just opens his mouth as a sign to be fed. It makes me laugh but I then tell him to move his a s s and get it himself.

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Haha yes we taureans sure love being comfy and lazy. Hope he has some other placements that makes him not too lazy I hope?

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Haha yes we taureans sure love being comfy and lazy. Hope he has some other placements that makes him not too lazy I hope?

I love running and working out but we all know sometimes one does not feel like it but pushes oneself to do it anyway. Days like that I go out running etc just so I can feel extra satisfied and comfy when I have been away from my bed

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posted March 17, 2019 11:45 AM            

Thank you very much for the reply! I did not quote to keep the post shorter

I really like reading about how your personality is and how the aspects manifests in you! I'm glad I did not seem like a creep to you

I felt like you were bossy by the way you write in some posts, but I guess its more like "impatience"? your aries moon and mars-moon? Also virgo suns actually can be such know-it alls and a bit bossy

Also if placidus gives you pluto in first, then I may have sensed that energy very well!

My friend I wrote about, he would never ever express himself the way you do for some reason lol. He is so collected and too nice, to a fault!