posted March 13, 2019 07:17 AM            

One Taurus Sun/Moon in Taurus conjunct combo was the initiator of our breakup after saying that he didn't feel the "chemistry" anymore. What???

Granted with all of them Gemini was always present.Either as Asc position,Moon,Venus or Mars. And perhaps that contributed in their restlessness or unwillingness to "go the distance".

Now I am not saying that Taurus is not the type to break things off at all. That its all Gemini's doing etc. But I think what surprised me mostly was how I always had to be the one to assure them that when we fought, it didn't mean I loved them any less.

And also the fact that they did so little in actually investing in the relationship. Preferring to be the ones who are "kept" and needing constant assurance that I love them etc.

In all my relationships,I was the stable one.Yes I was sensitive and got angry .But I always came back to the middle and was the voice of reason(not destruction). Calling them back, apologizing and even initiating sex.

The Taurus exes were all of them quite weak willed. And I often wondered in each I dated :"where is the calm in personality to weather the storms?"

My initial attraction to them was their cool/calm demenour. But this was not the experience I found when deep in a relationship with them i.e it seems that this cool/calm demeanour was a facade to disguise someone who was more insecure & wanting things "perfect" than to deal well with trouble/difficulties.

Libra however is ime surprisingly calmer.Well atleast the ones I dated were always the first to remind me to "calm down" by verbalizing what they felt.It helped tremendously to clarify what was hurting.

I remember fighting with a Libra and storming off. He sent a text message afterwards that I found comforting : "We'll work this out.I love you". And the message alone was enough to quell our misunderstanding.

And he was also not the type to threaten a break-up when things got tough nor be paralyzed by problems within the relationship. Infact, many of them seemed to like arguinh or at least getting to the heart of an issue.

But with the Taurus, there was a lot of impassivity. You could say that it was perhaps their way of dealing with the strife? However, it didn't bring them closer to understanding my perspective nor did it feel like they ever wanted to. It was enough for them to just buiry their head in the sand and hope that it all goes away.

posted March 13, 2019 08:25 AM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
I’m married to a Taurus Moon and have dated a few others and can say this: they have been quick in and slow out. They seem to be able to ponder on the “getting out” for a loooooooooong time but once they’ve made their mind up, that’s it; they’re out. Oddly though, they can flip back and forth between an old and new fling until they know the new thing is a “certain thing”. They like comfort and what’s old is at least comfortable until something else is.

Libra is calm and wants to keep the peace. I find them most likely to go the friend-zone route after a breakup to keep the peace.

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I agree with the "fast in" part. All of the Taurus exes were very "full steam ahead" when we first started. But that was the honeymoon phase.

When they got in, they were "fast out" at the first sign of trouble.And that's what surprised me tbh. Perhaps they didn't take a long time to ponder the decision. Or maybe I was a "fling" with all of them? A 1 year plus fling?

But I do notice that post break-up, they all act as if we are still "together" etc. In the last function I went to, I bumped into one when with a friend to the function. And it seemed like Taurus was staring daggers at the friend.

He(Taurus) was asking intrusive questions i.e Whom my friend is? What exactly my relationship with him is ? Am i seeing someone? etc. Then he asked if we could be together the whole night?

I obviously said that I couldn't ditch my friend. To which he seemed to understand. But he told me that he was grateful I was nice to him(given that he is the one who cheated and broke us up). And he said that he regretted his walking out on us so abruptly etc. Because he still loves me etc.

I have to remember however that he is the KING of smooth talk. And that with him "Out of sight.Out of mind" applies since he bumped into me in an event and hasn't called since

So i guess he was gravitating towards the "old" and/or familiar at the event.

posted March 13, 2019 08:43 AM            

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Originally posted by kirki:
Taurus can be really stubborn which makes them look closeminded.But its a sign i think ,people can rely on and feel safe with them.I think theyhave good intentions and just want feel cosy and relaxed.Libra tries to keep balance all the time ,thats why i dont like them much,i dont see any personality in them.They avoid expressing their opinions and thats something i find too annoying.Im taurus and i dont get along with libras,i find them too superficial.Ofcourse a libra probably has some scorpio in their chart ,something which puts some depth,so im talking about people with many personal planets in libra.

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True. There is a lot that I find irritating about Libras need to keep the peace no matter what. And sometimes I really do think that they break their backs bending over backwards.

But I guess I like their more active approach to engagement. We discuss, we disagree but we akr our views. And I like that.

With Taurus, I do appreciate the calm they exude(I get attracted to many because of that). But I do get disoriented by their tendency to be obstinate in tackling issues that needs addressing.

I cared for the Taurus exes and didn't expect to break up with them so quickly as I expected to work things out. And it hurt(wounded) me that they left without looking back until way past the postmortem date

posted March 13, 2019 08:52 AM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
I’m married to a Taurus Moon and have dated a few others and can say this: they have been quick in and slow out. They seem to be able to ponder on the “getting out” for a loooooooooong time but once they’ve made their mind up, that’s it; they’re out. Oddly though, they can flip back and forth between an old and new fling until they know the new thing is a “certain thing”. They like comfort and what’s old is at least comfortable until something else is.

Libra is calm and wants to keep the peace. I find them most likely to go the friend-zone route after a breakup to keep the peace.

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i have libra venus conjunct libra ascendant and i have no issue with fighting if i feel the need to, or speaking my mind even if i know it will be unpopular

i'm generally calm and don't mind letting someone else have their way when it's inconsequential and i tend to go with the flow but if i do care everyone will know

@Aries23Degrees

i'm the sort of person who believes nothing is going to be perfect and part of being in a relationship is always working on finding balance and trying to improve things, and i think if you love a person and vice versa there's reason to work through things

i'd rather argue and get things out in the open to see what can be done than just not try or hold them in

works out better for everyone involved that way

posted March 13, 2019 09:40 AM            

Taurus is not much of a negotiator (being a fixed sign). Libras can go back/forth with you the whole night but Taurus doesn't do that. In a negative way, Libras can be quite insufferable as they don't quit until you reach a fair agreement with them and what's fair is according to their perspective, not yours. I've a friend with a Libra stellium and I get a headache when she starts arguing with someone. Sometimes she gets unreasonable but she doesn't see it. She thinks that what she's asking for is only "fair".

posted March 13, 2019 10:18 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
@Aries23Degrees

i'm the sort of person who believes nothing is going to be perfect and part of being in a relationship is always working on finding balance and trying to improve things, and i think if you love a person and vice versa there's reason to work through things

i'd rather argue and get things out in the open to see what can be done than just not try or hold them in

works out better for everyone involved that way

life has its ups and downs, relationships and people are no different so i expect both sides of things and it doesn't destroy things for me to have to deal with both

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I agree with all this as I feel the same way.

It could be because of my Mars in Libra that I "get" that approach. Add to that my Draco Sun in Libra. It may be that I find it comforting that one engages with me since Mars is in the 7th.

posted March 13, 2019 10:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I agree with all this as I feel the same way.

It could be because of my Mars in Libra that I "get" that approach. Add to that my Draco Sun in Libra. It may be that I find it comforting that one engages with me since Mars is in the 7th.

Could I be driving them away with my passionate sparring?Lol.It could be.

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could be, that kind of thing doesn't bother me personally but i would find it boring if someone always agreed with me or was dispassionate about their own views etc

i would rather fight and know they think for themselves over anything else, i can't respect a person otherwise

as long as they can move past an argument or a fight and still have fun and not sulk all day or anything it's fine

posted March 13, 2019 10:42 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
I'm a Taurus Sun with Gemini Asc/Venus but I don't leave relationships easily. However, I'm adverse to long-drawn arguments so if my partner is always engaging me in exasperating debates or keep going on and on about the same thing, I would want out.

Taurus is not much of a negotiator (being a fixed sign). Libras can go back/forth with you the whole night but Taurus doesn't do that. In a negative way, Libras can be quite insufferable as they don't quit until you reach a fair agreement with them and what's fair is according to their perspective, not yours. I've a friend with a Libra stellium and I get a headache when she starts arguing with someone. Sometimes she gets unreasonable but she doesn't see it. She thinks that what she's asking for is only "fair".

Taurus doesn't like to banter. Their opinions are fixed and that's it. The best way to deal with a Taurus is to let them cool down and revisit the topic when they're in a happy mood. A happy bull will be willing to be led by the nose (only to a certain point and within comfort). If you insist on fighting it out with a Taurus it will cause them undue distress and they will want out.

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Oh ok.I see. I think I know now why they walked away.I was "argumentative" .I liked sparring and perhaps they felt it just too much.

posted March 13, 2019 11:07 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
could be, that kind of thing doesn't bother me personally but i would find it boring if someone always agreed with me or was dispassionate about their own views etc

i would rather fight and know they think for themselves over anything else, i can't respect a person otherwise

as long as they can move past an argument or a fight and still have fun and not sulk all day or anything it's fine

the only thing that bothers the **** out of me is the silent treatment, i really can't stand that

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I feel the same.Lol.Exactly the same. And the Aqua Sun /Virgo Asc does not get that. He says I am "feisty" and the one time we discussed Jussie Smollet, he iced me out at the end. Silent treatment...

I admit I do do the silent treatment when mad. So I don't mind that so much. As I can apologize when wrong
But I forget about it and move on.

posted March 13, 2019 12:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Oh ok.I see. I think I know now why they walked away.I was "argumentative" .I liked sparring and perhaps they felt it just too much.

My sister is Taurus but Ura is opposite Mars,so she enjoys sparring. And I assumed that Taurus doesn't mind a little banter.

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Maybe I shouldn't use the word 'banter' (haha) as harmless bantering actually adds sparks to a relationship, IMO.

posted March 13, 2019 02:24 PM            

The Taurus asked me to visit him whilst with his friends. I arrived to a warmer reception from his friends than he.

After leaving , I asked him through text as to why he seemed so aloof? And that sparked an argument via text and I spoke my heart. To which he responded by being more defensive.

Eventually he blocked my number & whenever I called days after, he would not answer or the phone would go to voice mail.

When he eventually did respond to my call a week later, I took that opportunity to apologize for the way I acted in our disagreement.

I assured him that I was just taken aback by his aloofness and wanted to find what the issue really was with all that.

He accepted my apology(but didn't himself apologize lol) before stating that he would much prefer I dont call anymore. That he is fine with us going our separating ways etc.

I was obviously hurt by this and told him that I accept his decision. I also said that I love him very much.but won't "change" his mind. And that was it.

Before this, there was no indication (on my end) that things were to culminate to that outcome. In fact, we had planned a trip to Limpopo. But I had to cancel that and get our monies back, refund him and cut ties.

It was painful. Granted his Venus is opposite Uranus in Sag. So perhaps I should have seen it coming? But nevertheless it hurt like hell. I was totally blindsided.

Since then, I had tried to figure what went wrong? But could not come to an answer.

posted March 13, 2019 03:31 PM            

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Originally posted by kirki:
The way he acted is not taurus way at all.so blame other points of his chart for that behavior.

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Lol. I think the "culprit" could be Venus-Uranus. His 5th house cusp is in Libra. The ruler is Venus in his 1st house. He is good looking for days....a trait of Venus in 1st

But Uranus in 7th opposes his Venus in 1st. So as much as he "fights for love", he also wants freedom from such obligations. Which is what I always felt with him.

He disliked being questioned abou his whereabouts. Loved the company of friends and whilst I really didn't mind the latter, I was really unsure with what he wanted in a relationship?

Eventually I accepted his more "open ended" approach as he would visit me often and be very vocal with his affection for me. It was just within the company of his friends that I faded away to oblivion. And that concerned me.

Oddly when I met him after the breakup, he was super friendly, wanted to kiss me (which I blocked from him doing) and said that I am the one he "let" get away etc.

I laughed the whole thing off and kept my distance. Our breakup didn't make sense but I was too proud to admit he hurt me.

posted March 14, 2019 01:13 AM            

Based on what I gathered so far, this isn't the first of such arguments? Perhaps not the same issue but of the same nature as in you accused him of something but he denied and it sparked a quarrel? I asked because it seemed like a culminated issue. Taureans are known to be very patient and generally sweet-natured but can blow if they reach their limit and when Taureans are mad at you, they ignore you... ice you.. block you... whatever it takes to get you off their backs.

The Venus-Uranus in him means that he doesn't like to deal with such issues. He wants his space (and so do all men actually), + Taurus wants a harmonious relationship + his 5th cusp in Libra just like me. Arguments stress us out.

You said the Aqua/Virgo guy also gave you the silent treatment so something to think about: have you been arguing or discussing your issues? I personally think it's useless arguing with a fixed sign anyway because you can't change their minds. Try a different approach next time... calmly tell them how you feel and let them mull over it on their own. If they understand and accept it, they will come around. If they don't then perhaps it's a compatibility issue.

posted March 14, 2019 01:51 AM            

But what I personally feel is that this was on his mind for a while and your 'trigger' was a freeing exit route.

I've acted this way in the past more than once. I have a Taurus Sun. My fifth house Libra ruler opposes Uranus from the first too. But Uranus sits in my eighth so it might be a bit different.

But generally, there's a 'buildup' for me that I won't express up until that person triggers this. Meaning, I can feel that I don't wanna be with a person, but won't actually admit it and just 'play along' up until that person strikes up a fight as an example and I'll just take that as an excuse to leave. Although it was really unrelated. I was wanting to do it anyway.

One thing that's different with me though (I think) is that I try to not lead a person on. Like I won't tell them or act as if I'm in love with them when I am in fact not. I'll just act really nonchalantly. Which is why I'm a bit surprised in your case, but it might be something else in his chart. Perhaps more pronounced Gemini placements? Does he have player tendencies? And also, the person I drop I definitely won't try to act interested or kiss again if I was the one to break it off. Just pouring salt on the wounds imo. Unless I really wanna strike it up again, or having doubts about my initial decision for that matter.

And kirki is right, I don't think I ever blocked someone. I just don't bother to respond, but I don't bother blocking. So perhaps there's still 'something' there that he felt propelled enough to block you. (Actually I now remember I did block one person, my ex husband. Only cuz we were disagreeing on something and I just didn't wanna hear from his bs - plus I felt that that was my only chance with him to get him to 'give in'. And it was probably my Pluto opposing Sun, trine Mars.)

What I'm understanding from your scenario... The fact that he didn't apologize, he probably felt that he didn't necessarily do anything wrong by acting aloof. Perhaps he felt he had to invite you over without actually wanting to do so? And your questions just brought what was already on his mind to the surface. And the bickering probably felt to him there's no point to, it's not something he wants to fix, but rather amplify on and extract himself from. So with your apologies, he was probably never ****** at you in the first place, so was just nicely accepting it and given that he didn't feel like he's still in this, he didn't feel the need to apologize for his actions which wasn't triggered by him anyway.

The planning the vacation part is normal (for me) unfortunately. I feel like I do that a lot of the time. Not because I wanna take advantage, it's just I don't know at which point we'll actually break it off. And I don't wanna give them hints before the time is due.

posted March 14, 2019 03:33 AM            

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Yes you are right,but i think he may have some pluto too,uranus wouldnt even care to block you.

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Well his Asc is in Gemini and the ruler(Mercury) is in opposition aspect to Pluto.

He really did cut me off after we broke off. I thought we'd at least be friends. Or make it a cordial thing. But alas.

And i think that is the difference I have inferred from Taurus vs. Libra. As with Libra exes, we still communicate.

posted March 14, 2019 05:17 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
@Aries23,
Like what kirki said, his behaviour doesn't sound like a Taurus thing.

Based on what I gathered so far, this isn't the first of such arguments? Perhaps not the same issue but of the same nature as in you accused him of something but he denied and it sparked a quarrel? I asked because it seemed like a culminated issue.

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Well maybe this is a small issue and I took it to be infinitesimal back then. It wasn't I that was accusing him of anything.The accusation seeme to be coming from him i.e. he alluded to me that he objected to me being "indifferent".

He showed me a picture of him kissing(open mouth) someone else and claimed that the guy "forced himself" on him.

My response to the pic was: "Wow! He(the guy kissing him) was really going for gold there.Did you(him Taurus) need a lifeboat?". To which he laughed.

I know that he is a little vain. Very good looking guy. So there are people who throw themselves on him and he is not exactly indifferent to the attention he gets from them. He just likes to do the "humble brag" that he was "cornered" or "he was being nice" etc.

Later that day however I realized that the pic he showed me had ulterior motives when he said that I don't take things seriously(I am Sag so we never do quite take things seriously on the surface or at first blush) and that I never get jealous etc.

I said "I dont get jealous because I trust you". To which he seemed to relax on. I thought that perhaps he expected me to react in a more passionate way? And I didn't. So maybe he was "baiting" a reaction? I can't say.

The thing is that I got used to him being "open ended" with feelings and emotions. And at times he would say that he feels more like my "friend" than lover etc.

My response was always "but that's because when I get passionate and act like a boyfriend.You get all weirded out.So I just learned to be casual".

I think he was a lot confused. When I was friendly with him, he would say that I am too casual. If I was more romantic he'd say I am being "corny". Yikes!!!

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Taureans are known to be very patient and generally sweet-natured but can blow if they reach their limit and when Taureans are mad at you, they ignore you... ice you.. block you... whatever it takes to get you off their backs.

The Venus-Uranus in him means that he doesn't like to deal with such issues. He wants his space (and so do all men actually), + Taurus wants a harmonious relationship + his 5th cusp in Libra just like me. Arguments stress us out.

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I agree with the argument part stressing him out. I kept them to an absolute minimum.And would often calmly end with "this is not me arguing. I am just stating my ccaseand what I think" before giving him a hug. I think I "babied" him a lot when I could see from his face that he was getting stressed out by a disagreement.

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
You said the Aqua/Virgo guy also gave you the silent treatment so something to think about: have you been arguing or discussing your issues? I personally think it's useless arguing with a fixed sign anyway because you can't change their minds. Try a different approach next time... calmly tell them how you feel and let them mull over it on their own. If they understand and accept it, they will come around. If they don't then perhaps it's a compatibility issue.

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True. I don't shout. I just am very assertive.Sometimes emphatic but not loud. I state how I feel clearly and always end with "that's just how I feel".

Its funny that you should mention that Fixed signs are more likely to be stubborn with their minds etc. As this Aqua is very much like the Taurian spoken about( he also has Venus/Uranus aspect square).

When I tell him what I think, he listens selectively and then responds in that way. And i am like "but that is not all that I said though..." and he will be like "but this {insert sentiment here} is all I heard". What???

I admit that being given the silent treatment is an issue I have with another Gemini/Taurus Moon. So perhaps even as I am "calm" and controlled etc. I do come across harsh.

However, I do not get that from Aries,Sag mates. Its a no hold barred fest. Which I like. Lol

Granted that people are not the same.I take that into consideration.

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Also another point and this has nothing to do with astrology. Men can get really "shy" in front of their friends. I've known guys who behave very cool to their gfs when their friends are around. It's probably a man's thing... to act macho in front of their friends or risk being teased.

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We are both guys btw lol. And I do get that he doesn't want to be all "lovey dovey" with his friends around. That is not what I want either. I don't like that either.

But I was just taken aback by how inhospitable he was;sitting away from me, not talking to me, casually waving goodbye when I left etc. It really hurt my feelings.

So I thought that he was upset over something and I asked this via text. But what I got in response to that was a barrage of complaints from him i.e "you are always making a big deal out of nothing" " you are over-sensitive" etc. Wow!!!

Suffice it to say however, his actions surprised me because I expected different. The calm demenour I saw initially was not my experience up close.

posted March 14, 2019 05:33 AM            

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I don't know how to put this nicely, but first I'm really sorry. It sucks all life out of mankind. I've been there.

But what I personally feel is that this was on his mind for a while and your 'trigger' was a freeing exit route.

I've acted this way in the past more than once. I have a Taurus Sun. My fifth house Libra ruler opposes Uranus from the first too. But Uranus sits in my eighth so it might be a bit different.

But generally, there's a 'buildup' for me that I won't express up until that person triggers this. Meaning, I can feel that I don't wanna be with a person, but won't actually admit it and just 'play along' up until that person strikes up a fight as an example and I'll just take that as an excuse to leave. Although it was really unrelated. I was wanting to do it anyway.

One thing that's different with me though (I think) is that I try to not lead a person on. Like I won't tell them or act as if I'm in love with them when I am in fact not. I'll just act really nonchalantly. Which is why I'm a bit surprised in your case, but it might be something else in his chart. Perhaps more pronounced Gemini placements? Does he have player tendencies? And also, the person I drop I definitely won't try to act interested or kiss again if I was the one to break it off. Just pouring salt on the wounds imo. Unless I really wanna strike it up again, or having doubts about my initial decision for that matter.

And kirki is right, I don't think I ever blocked someone. I just don't bother to respond, but I don't bother blocking. So perhaps there's still 'something' there that he felt propelled enough to block you. (Actually I now remember I did block one person, my ex husband. Only cuz we were disagreeing on something and I just didn't wanna hear from his bs - plus I felt that that was my only chance with him to get him to 'give in'. And it was probably my Pluto opposing Sun, trine Mars.)

What I'm understanding from your scenario... The fact that he didn't apologize, he probably felt that he didn't necessarily do anything wrong by acting aloof. Perhaps he felt he had to invite you over without actually wanting to do so? And your questions just brought what was already on his mind to the surface. And the bickering probably felt to him there's no point to, it's not something he wants to fix, but rather amplify on and extract himself from. So with your apologies, he was probably never ****** at you in the first place, so was just nicely accepting it and given that he didn't feel like he's still in this, he didn't feel the need to apologize for his actions which wasn't triggered by him anyway.

The planning the vacation part is normal (for me) unfortunately. I feel like I do that a lot of the time. Not because I wanna take advantage, it's just I don't know at which point we'll actually break it off. And I don't wanna give them hints before the time is due.

I'm sorry to say, I actually feel really bad for you. But I'm feeling that he had lost interest way before you guys broke it off.

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Thank you for this. I revovered well btw. Its been years.

I was doing a retrospective feedback on my relationships(it could be Pluto reacting with my Moon by opposition or square my Mars in 7th) i.e what pattern seems to come through with the people I attract in close relationships etc.

What seemee to be prevalent was the generous halpin of Libra/Taurus guys. Given, I do have Venus in the 7th AND ruling the 7th .So there it is.

So I wanted to really understand tge differences in these two and hear from people what they think they are etc.

It just perplexed me that every Taurus I have been with behaved in a manner more akin to the instability demonstrated by Uranus(even Mars or Pluto) than Venus.

And Libra was more in keeping with Venus. In that they would do all they can(sometimes annoyingly so) to please others etc.

So I wondered where I am picking these Taurus people from? Lol. And as I speak to you all now, there is a Taurus Sun who has expressed interest in me.And guess what? His birthday is 2 days from the Taurus spoken about i.e same year,same age. Just days apart.

He has Venus/Uranus in tight opposition too. Very easy on the eyes and strongly religious. So I wonder and not to aspect stereotype etc. but do I really want this experience all over again?

The problems were likely there before the cut off. True. But I don't think I saw them as insurmountable. So I was hoping that we'd see things through. But alas....