posted March 17, 2019 12:55 PM            

it takes a lot for me to think someone is a creep honestly, they'd have to show up wearing someone else's skin with no good reason and then be directly weird towards me in order for it to cross my mind

i don't really consider most things odd or strange because i don't think that deeply on them, not at first anyway

i can be assertive/aggressive which i guess can come off that way but my mercury and moon and mars and uranus all hit my venus/ascendant so that could explain it

the libra stuff is just aspected on a very surface level

when it comes to patience i can alternate between extremes depending on the situation

but i think it's that underlying aggressive/assertiveness that does it, which is pure accident

in person the libra smooths it out more than here but i've been told people just forgive how much of an ******* i am because i'm attractive lol so maybe that's where the libra ascendant/venus comes in more for me

yeah that's probably where you're getting the pluto vibes my first house and then the sextile to my sun

i'm accidentally a dick sometimes so exact opposite there but it's the impact to the ascendant probably that does it whereas his doesn't hit there

my calmness and me being laid back is partially apathy in all honesty, and partially laziness it's just easier to not bother with most things so why do it?

i assert myself pretty immediately in most cases, because it's easier, physically i'm a scrawny **** lol so i assert myself other ways and people tend to know better

i'm different one on one and in close relationships, i open up but it's a much softer side funny enough (except also that can come with the ability to get me angry and people close to me have seen that and it's not pretty)

my lively childish side is definitely more outward, my fiancee is used to me ******* around in grocery stores and riding around on the shopping carts and doing dumb **** to entertain myself etc it's sensitivity and depth that i have a tendency to hide

funny that you mention politics i spent a huge chunk of last night arguing about the mosque shooting lol and the israel boycotts etc but i follow that sort of thing somewhat heavy and i can be near autistically nerdy about military history and strategy

there's definitely 2 sides to the white male privilege thing, just saying

i think it's pointless to care about other people's opinions for the most part unless there's reason to assert your own

with sun saturn i tend to be disappointed rather than angry definitely, but me getting angry can and does still happen very rarely and very few people have experienced it

i also do generally get very cold, my fiancee calls it my "robot mode" where i just feel zero emotions towards someone or something, except i'm cold and vocal not cold and silent

i've been told i can be a very cold ******* and that's completely true, i can take it to another level

moon doesnt hit my saturn, saturn only exists in my chart to square my sun

i tend to discard a lot of feelings because i find them frivolous and accept them as ephemeral so negative feelings are a waste etc

posted March 17, 2019 03:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
^^^ Thank you for this. It was was well said.

The "numbing" of emotions is something I recognize and can agree with. A fear of intensity.

Its ironic because Libr Moon when adamant about a point can argue and pursue it like a dog with a bone. Thus getting responses from others that are more passionate etc.

What planets aspect the Ic ruler for the Libra person spoken of? The Scorpio Sun/Gemini Moon combo is one of tge most challenging imo(I feel the same about Cap Sun/Gem Moon).

My thinking is that there is Uranus in aspect to Moon or Mars natally?

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Her IC is in Capricorn and she has Sun-Saturn conjunct exact in Taurus (in the 7th). They both are tightly inconjunct her Libra Moon in the 12th house. She also has her Sun-Saturn conjunct opposite her 1st house Scorpio Mars Rx with them both squaring Neptune (Neptune is at the apex of a T-Square involving all the mentioned planets).

Her Uranus isn't doing much because it is too far ahead in Aquarius to be aspecting a lot of planets, but it is in a tight grand trine with her Gemini Venus and Libra ASC. Her Uranus is sextile her Mercury-Jupiter conjunction in Aries, and it is also conjunct her SN.

posted March 22, 2019 05:40 AM            

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Originally posted by Electro DGX:
Her IC is in Capricorn and she has Sun-Saturn conjunct exact in Taurus (in the 7th). They both are tightly inconjunct her Libra Moon in the 12th house. She also has her Sun-Saturn conjunct opposite her 1st house Scorpio Mars Rx with them both squaring Neptune (Neptune is at the apex of a T-Square involving all the mentioned planets).

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I knew it!!! Mars/Uranus had to be involved. I was just looking at Uranus for erratic anger. But i forgot that Mars is also capable(and even more so) of such.

Mars-Sun intense "feeling" body. Quick to anger. And since Sun represents the Dad, Mars is Dad's anger.

Now Saturn opposite Sun is a father's restrained presence or atleast being a cold and often distant one. As Saturn is not about emotions mostly but responsibility.

The mix of Saturn/Mars can be one of great tension and often explosive tantrums that linger even after they have been released.

I find Neptune often "softens" things.So this addition of Neptune on Sun-Saturn/Mars I find interesting. It speaks of a father who felt "helpless" or unable to contain their passionate reactions.

Neptune also rules water.So the alcoholic abuse is consistent with that. My Dad has an indulgent nature when it comes to booze. I have a Neptune-Sun conjunction natally.

It is usually the natal aspects of the native involving the Sun and/or the Ic that details how they experience their father. Not necessarily the father's own natal chart.

My father could have "lovely" natal aspects that suggest an all-around "nice guy". But my experience could be that the same guy is violent and oppressive etc.

posted March 25, 2019 11:37 AM            

I think it helps clarify stuff for me as this Taurus differed greatly from the ones I have dated in the past in that;

He camouflaged himself a lot. Like nice wallpaper in a room, he was unobtrusive and didn't take part in debates around him.

He spent a great deal of time sleeping

He had a preference for certain types of cuisines and dishes. Would buy those- even if expensive.

He was not a particularly vivacious person. But he was friendly nevertheless.

Likes to have things announced BEFOREhand. Dislikes "surprises".

Likes to smell good and will spend lots of money on accessories i .e wtatches, rings, cuff links etc.

I thought of a tree as the best description of him: non threatening but with inner strength, rarely buzzing with activity of physical or nervous kind. All in all a nice tree blowing in the wind.

He was born near the cusp ( May 19) and this cusp is known as the Taurus/Gemini cusp.And although there wasn't nervousness, there waa definitely a clarity in expression of words or ideas.

I think of this cusp as the likeliest to actually have the discipline and tenacity necessary to write a book. He was intellectual and practical more than speculative and information sharing.

posted March 30, 2019 03:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Melinn:
@dumuzi

Sorry for my late response!

I got so overwhelmed with school and job! Also I feel so bad lately because of his silence for months now. I’m so disappointed and so hurt by this and feel rejected…
One other thing is I get so anxious he will find this site bc he knows about my astrology interest and thate there is forums where people talk about astrology and personal lives….

So everytime I share a detail about him I get anxious and often delete my comments or parts of a text later… Too bad there are no DM features on this rock old forum

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it's cool **** happens, if you have a discord i'm easy to get in touch with there (check my profile for it)

posted March 30, 2019 04:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
it's cool **** happens, if you have a discord i'm easy to get in touch with there (check my profile for it)

being able to dm would be nice though

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posted March 30, 2019 05:19 PM            

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Originally posted by kani:
how can I check your profile? For some reason there is no option for me to go click on the usernames...

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up where you can quote and edit there's a profile option

posted March 30, 2019 06:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
up where you can quote and edit there's a profile option

but you actually don't have to even look there it's listed under location so you can see it anyway under my name where it says from

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posted April 01, 2019 07:53 AM            

Thank you for your understanding!

About the "partially apathy" thing, yes thats how I percieve him aswell! Like, he just does not care about things that much. Like he is like "This does not involve me, why would I waste my energy". But he really really enjoys it when others get all riled up and energetically explains their views on things.

He (and you) have aries moon square mars so that I believe makes him really feel "nurtured" by heated discussions, or "energetic" forward people.

He can be all that himself from time to time, when he seems to let go of his saturnian restrains or apathy or whatever, but I find him just endaring when he gets pushy.

But when he is gonna discuss his political views, his energy really is confusing. Actually, his ”Stand by” energy is when I think about it very Pisces or Cancer energy like.

Calm, soft. Innocent. People are always drawn to him. Strangers will come up and choose him to ask quesions etc. He has a very innocent calm vibe. Like you described your energy!
He will during discussions have an all blanc, Passive and "unsure" facial expression.

Something I have only seen in pisces or cancer moon. When I’m riled up and about something or when I’m the least confrontational, he will avoid eye contact, look down and look all passive and unsure. He will do his best to Not say something that will cause one to lash out, I guess. (Unless he is in a playfull mode! Then he will tease one.)

This makes me frustrated, yes I like calm people, bu the looks passive, not just calm.

Is this something you can relate to? You seem more ”firy” then he is, but maybe you were more ”calm” when you were younger?
I have now discovered a new layer to this. For the longest time I thought it was his libra venus, when infact one aspect can’t tell a story!

So now I realised, its his damn Mars conjunct Neptune! Also they are in his 11th house. Aqua energy. Robotic, detached!

I have read a lot about ”pisces Mars” and ”Aquarius Mars” here and how people describe their pisces aqua mars, and its exactly how he behaves. One wrote that about his bofriend with pisces mars. That he would not even defend her when she was bothered and touched by stranger men in a bar.

He would stay at a distance and watch all calm, and He had then later came up and said ”you handled yourself well there”. Lol I imagine my friend would be like that. He just is not the defending type at all. He hates confronting, but I don’t know its because he is a covard? Or how does the neptune energy affect the Mars?

Also, confronting him with an aries manner, and even using the wordings ”You always does this or that! Why are you doing this? Do you have a problem with ths or that?!”. If I use that type of confrontation, he will look down and AVOID answering! He will like, swim away like a fish, mentally.

But if I instead use the Libra type of communication ”You did this or that. It made me feel bad and hurt. Did you mean to? Or what was the reason you did this or that? I wanna hear your version and how you thought and felt”. Then he will open up and thank one for giving him a chance to explain.

Bu the will never confront me if I have made something that upsets him! He will be silent and avoidant and all his emotions is on the surface bu the will never wanna confront! He will only confront if he is in a playfull mood (aries moon), then he will be shockingly direct and spill out things but in a childish innocent and playfull way. Just once he confronted me indirectly, and then too, he avoided eys contact, looked super robotic etc.. Maybe he has to feel Super safe to be able to open up?

But dunno Dumuzi, you seem to be all ok with direct confrontation . But maybe you can explain this neptune to mars energy? D

posted April 01, 2019 01:40 PM            

yeah if something isn't my problem i see no reason to make it an issue, it's a lot easier to just not and sometimes when thins are my problem but it's easier to not bother i won't then either (particularly if there's a third party who might get upset that i care more about than the person who's an issue)

i prefer doing what's easier but if confrontation does happen it's not thought out because i'm not the sort of person who's capable of thinking first

political views are something i dont shy away from and it really annoys me when other people do, i like "touchy" subjects due to their depth and i want to talk religion and politics etc at great lengths sometimes if only to just argue a view that isnt mine and watch people i agree with struggle against it

the strangers thing is kind of funny, my fiancee and i have sat around waiting on people to meet us before and she's made jokes about how many people will just smile at me or wave or whatever and she'll ask me if i know them and the answer is nearly always no

i tend to either deal with people who are riled up by either getting annoyed back or just not taking it personally if they just seem like that sort of person who can be aggressive and then i'll keep things chill

depends on a lot of factors

ive gotten yelled at for being too calm before, but it takes a long time and a lot to really push any buttons so during actual fights im likely to not react that way, but i can easily seem more aggressive than i am when it's a discussion i'm not actually having any feelings over

i actually laughed when i read the thing about being calmer when i was younger, me young was the exact opposite lol i've mellowed out a lot actually

i see that kind of thing as my fiancee's issue unless the guy is overly aggressive, i see no reason to step in since she can handle herself

it seems invasive to me to really bother and unnecessary, and i hate doing anything that's unnecessary as much as i hate doing **** that is necessary but boring or tedious

i really lack that cap mars unending drive and have a really bad tendency to lose interest and just drop things altogether or not bother pursuing things i might even want just because it seems like more trouble than it's worth (there are a few exceptions and then i'm the nothing will stop me type but generally speaking nah) i can be more of a "maybe time will take care of everything" sort of person and it's not so much cowardice as just not really having it in me to bother and it being that simple

i hate that "always" **** , my fiancee is like that and i tend to immediately respond by going on about how that's unfair and impossible etc because it really is both unfair and impossible and i hate a lack of fairness or balance even during a fight

i prefer the libra type of communication because it actually is communication lol the other thing is just yelling and gets nowhere in the end other than you and the other person have to both just move on instead of working out a problem, and thats fine when it's mindless venting frustration that doesnt need any kind of problem solving but on actual issues nah

i definitely confront if someone im close to upsets me, if someone im not close to does something i dont care for i tend to not feel very strongly so i see no reason for it

the neptune mars energy for me is definitely just like i said that inability to really find it in me to have that cap focus and more just a tendency to really drift and hope for the best

i can spend hours every day working on a song and doing nothing else and i taught myself percussion guitar but if you put me in a situation i get bored in like a regular job or school or some **** then that focus disappears completely and im much more likely to shirk responsibilities and not pay attention etc

i've gone well out of my way acquiring drugs but skipped out on things that were actually important, my drive is just mostly there for certain pursuits and sometimes not even

ive never been particularly materialistic either, i think going crazy acquiring that sort of thing is a waste of life and i have very few things i even care about as far as that goes

posted April 08, 2019 04:25 PM            

it's cool

i didn't take it that way, and i'm finding it interesting to see the difference a day can make considering sun and ascendant are different + what stays the same with us having such similar charts

most house systems (placidus included) put my neptune/mars into the 3rd house, and yeah it's just this block for me really where i can have periods where i'll spend all hours of the day and night doing something like writing or working on a song and then i just stop and can't function like that for months so i'm very inconsistent if i feel uninspired

with **** like meditation and such that's more daily, but it's different otherwise i'm pretty terrible about things like that

i can motivate myself to take care of pets or the garden or cook dinner for someone else (i'm one of those people who just won't eat or drink anything at points just because i don't think about it or it'll be too much trouble to bother so i don't, but only if it's just for myself if it's not for me i can consistently find motivation), but that's really it

material **** just doesn't interest me and the motivation for it just isn't there, i don't care about it really i'm content with what i have and the only things i ever usually buy are books

i'm not particularly passive aggressive, i'll completely avoid something and hope time takes care of it but i'm not one for subtle digs or anything in the meanwhile

i'm either inactive entirely or i'll deal with something if i absolutely have to, but if the right buttons are pushed i'm just aggressive

i will keep things in, but i try to release them through meditation or art or something like that because i don't like to necessarily hold onto something

stress definitely takes a physical toll on me though, with my health issues being what they are stress only ever makes it worse but i tend to work the stress out by myself

i'm a compulsive flirter, i do it unintentionally and completely by accident or just as a reaction even if i'm uncomfortable or uninterested

it's how i deal with people usually if it's an option if i'm not flirting then i tend to keep things light with jokes and that's about it

my fiancee can get me to blush though she finds that **** funny, mostly her though

if he's anything like me then he likes pluto and aries energy because i really enjoy both, i tend to really like fire in people (sag and aries in particular) and water (i like scorpio and pisces a lot, not as into cancer energy) and heavy pluto and uranus too when it comes to air i like aquarians

i don't usually have any earth signs in my life for whatever reason and when i do they're usually capricorns who have just been drawn to me not the other way around

i really don't buy new tech **** , i figure if it works it works and there's no point as long as it still does what i want it to

with the exception of video games i usually have at least one current gen console (i rarely actually play them anymore, but i'll occasionally binge play something usually with my fiancee), but usually if i get something new it's because i lost or broke mine (i'm pretty good at breaking and losing phones though)

i hate picking out clothes it's annoying so my fiancee actually does that for me lol there's just too many choices to make, it's difficult (i'm short and skinny and finding clothes that aren't ******* huge is a ***** ), it takes too long, and i get bored so i don't bother she knows what i will and won't wear and likes shopping so it works out

i don't like cheap things though at all i don't want cheap food, clothes, shampoo etc none of that there's no point in getting cheap **** as far as i'm concerned because the quality suffers and why bother then?

i like to do things for other people, especially if i love them because it makes them happy whether or not i get anything for it, because i don't see it as necessary for me to get things back

but for whatever reason i feel like it's more fair if when i'm given something i give in return, so i'll do something nice without strings but if someone else does something nice i'm inclined to find an opportunity to give them something in return whether it's a gift or doing something for them or whatever

i express gratitude in words too, i'll talk endlessly about anything so even something like that gets tons of words

i feel like it's important to say things and not just expect actions to prove something to people, mix of both is the best route