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Melinn
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posted April 17, 2019 06:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
Is he aware of your feelings?
Did he ever tell you abput his feelings towards you?
Was he that distant in the past?

No we never opened up to each other and I think he accepted it for a long time ago and we both were settled to be just friends. Or I was. He could see I had feels though since I was often affectionate with him and due to other actions.

Now I too feel I can not be friends when I have feels for him. Whats the point of torturing myself? Yes I should stop whining an move on since I don't really be just friends either but his actions hurts anyway. I wanted a good and nice ending.

I now believe he just think its too hard to be friends for some reason, and he wanna let things die on its own by being avoidant..
I will never know since he would never talk about feelings and whatnot. He is an indirect guy through and through when it comes to communication.

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Plut0nian2
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posted April 17, 2019 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It makes me feel like he doesn't have the same feelings but I may be wrong.
When someone lets something die like that it means that he/she doesn't care much or may think that the other person doesn't care much.
You know what? Why don't you just let him know how you feel? You're not losing anything but you may feel like it's a big deal in your head.

Tell him that you feel like you're losing him and it makes you sad because you wanted him in your life at least as a friend even though you had feelings for him since the very start. But since he didn't seem to be interested in you in that way you were happy having him as a friend. Tell him you're saying this because you just wanted to take it out of you and also let him know the truth even if it's late.

Everyone appreciates sincerity even the worst liars. In the worst case scenario you'll feel better and you'll know that he is not interested in you for sure, it hurts as a thought but it will help you to clear things in your head and move on easier. But there are good case scenarios too. He might find the balls to open up and let you know how he sees you. Don't torture yourself. Come on! Do it please you'll feel so much better even if you doupt it now. Slap him in the face with your sincerity!

I will allow you to curse me and blame me if it makes you feel better afterwards but this small things will help you more in the future.

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Melinn
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posted April 17, 2019 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Aww thank you for your encouragement!

I don’t want a relationship, just wanted to keep being friends. And we are a group of friends, the others keep in touch, he is the one not wanna have contact with us it seems. Its just common curtesy to text people you have known for this long if only for asking how it goes etc. He was good at that before. And its not about “romance” or anything, our group have always kept in touch. And he has never been this way before so I think its him avoiding conflict by being indirect.

Nope not gonna happen. That kind of drama is not my thing😅

I forget to add in my previous post, but could you edit and unquote me above? I get paranoid and tend to erase my texts 😅.

I also decided I have to stop whining and thinking, And writing about him, I’m too compulsive with my writing and also it just makes me more harm:/.

—-Please don’t quote—-😊

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Plut0nian2
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posted April 17, 2019 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unquote-Done!

I don't understand what kind of group of friends this is, I mean is there something like work for example "uniting" you?

Has something happened that made him avoid the group or you?
Just text him then smth like "Hey have you been? Feels like you're avoiding us but I missed you you a$$ole I will haunt you forever no matter how much you'll try to avoid me" 😂😂😂

Ok not the whole sentence but the first half sentence untill the "I miss you" point would be good.


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posted April 17, 2019 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
Unquote-Done!

I don't understand what kind of group of friends this is, I mean is there something like work for example "uniting" you?

Has something happened that made him avoid the group or you?
Just text him then smth like "Hey have you been? Feels like you're avoiding us but I missed you you a$$ole I will haunt you forever no matter how much you'll try to avoid me" 😂😂😂

Ok not the whole sentence but the first half sentence untill the "I miss you" point would be good.


I actually do like the ending. Gives it some lightheartedness.

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posted April 18, 2019 01:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
I actually do like the ending. Gives it some lightheartedness.

Hehe
I don't think Melinn would say that though based on her previous comments. They must not be very close/comfortable with each other.

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posted April 18, 2019 02:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
Hehe
I don't think Melinn would say that though based on her previous comments. They must not be very close/comfortable with each other.

I remember partially the story from another post. She's very forward in her approach it seems. I think she has a stellium in her first. Including Sun. I'm sure she can handle this lol. Especially how she's dealt with him in the past.

(actually I'm partially impressed @Melinn lol it seems like you don't lack confidence)

I just hope I'm not confusing you with someone else lol apologies if I do. (but I do think it was you)

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posted April 18, 2019 03:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yes very true! I am like this, and I measure love by how reliable and generous someone is with his/her time with me and the persons actions. I think this is only rational though. I think all rational and non-dumb people would measure love by someones actions and not by someones "empty words", Or is it me?

No, it's not just you. My fav phrase is 'action speaks louder than words'. If someone tells me he loves me but keeps doing insensitive things, I will assume he doesn't and that he's just lying.

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posted April 18, 2019 03:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
I remember partially the story from another post. She's very forward in her approach it seems. I think she has a stellium in her first. Including Sun. I'm sure she can handle this lol. Especially how she's dealt with him in the past.

(actually I'm partially impressed @Melinn lol it seems like you don't lack confidence)

I just hope I'm not confusing you with someone else lol apologies if I do. (but I do think it was you)


Oh ok. I don't know the story just what she said here which is not enough for me to even understand what's going on and at what degree they flirted.
I gurssed she wouldn't say smth like that because she didn't want to open up to him which is her choice of course, I just believe it would help her.
But not contacting her for 3 months I believe she said? I'm wondering if he's not interested at all and she is torturing herself for nothing. He may even have another interest or even girlfriend?

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posted April 18, 2019 04:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
Unquote-Done!

I don't understand what kind of group of friends this is, I mean is there something like work for example "uniting" you?

Has something happened that made him avoid the group or you?
Just text him then smth like "Hey have you been? Feels like you're avoiding us but I missed you you a$$ole I will haunt you forever no matter how much you'll try to avoid me" 😂😂😂

Ok not the whole sentence but the first half sentence untill the "I miss you" point would be good.


That approach really is lighthearted and funny! I'm too plutonic for that though lol

We were collage mates^^ Yes it is hard to give advice when the whole story is not there, but yeah I think I will stop writing more then I have,

I have pestered people with my stuff here and there in other threads for too long lol

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posted April 18, 2019 04:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
No, it's not just you. My fav phrase is 'action speaks louder than words'. If someone tells me he loves me but keeps doing insensitive things, I will assume he doesn't and that he's just lying.


Right!? Actions comes first. Ideally actions and words. But actions means more <3

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posted April 18, 2019 04:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
I remember partially the story from another post. She's very forward in her approach it seems. I think she has a stellium in her first. Including Sun. I'm sure she can handle this lol. Especially how she's dealt with him in the past.

(actually I'm partially impressed @Melinn lol it seems like you don't lack confidence)

I just hope I'm not confusing you with someone else lol apologies if I do. (but I do think it was you)


Lol yes I can be forward but only some bursts here and there. If I'm bothered by something I'm all forward. In love matters I can be shy and forward depending on the other person. But usually, I get very restless when nothing happens and have to do something to move things.

No I have no stellium in 1th. I have Virgo asc^^ . Aries stellium in 8th. Gemini stellium in 10th.

Sun and merc opposite scorpio Pluto. Plutonic, saturnian and martian (neptunian etc) in that order..

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posted April 18, 2019 06:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Lol yes I can be forward but only some bursts here and there. If I'm bothered by something I'm all forward. In love matters I can be shy and forward depending on the other person. But usually, I get very restless when nothing happens and have to do something to move things.

No I have no stellium in 1th. I have Virgo asc^^ . Aries stellium in 8th. Gemini stellium in 10th.

Sun and merc opposite scorpio Pluto. Plutonic, saturnian and martian (neptunian etc) in that order..


Oops my bad. I keep confusing details. But yeah I get what you mean. If it doesn't come naturally to you then you shouldn't force it.

Gonna go completely on a whim here cuz for some reason I remember this was you... But were you the one to ask him to apologise to you for something? I'm probably missing details I know... But I remember it was a classic Arien/Plutonian approach... You were approaching him with something like 'people who care dot dot dot'... It's very vague this memory lol so I might have it all wrong. But I remember there was a gym included in the story lol.

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posted April 18, 2019 07:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No worries! <3

Yeah, well I don't wanna talk about it or write about it anymore lol (I'm a compulsive writer >_< )
Right now It just feeds my obsession I believe <3

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posted April 18, 2019 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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No worries! <3

Yeah, well I don't wanna talk about it or write about it anymore lol (I'm a compulsive writer >_< )
Right now It just feeds my obsession I believe <3


No p sorry

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Mariamne Mara
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posted April 18, 2019 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mariamne Mara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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[b]Mariamne Mara
Do you know where that feeling not being worthy of love comes from?

Some things like difficulty to trust others come from Pluto/Scorpio energy too.
Venus in Cap and Virgo are supposed to have high standards but I see in reality that they try too hard to keep a relationship, doing too much and taking too little if at all in return.
The sacrification thing is mistly Neptunian but when it comes to practically giving it's Capricorn/Virgo.

Would you mind sharing your birth details/natal chart and his? (the 11 years relationship). I would like to see if there are similar energies to your natal and synastry chart as my aunt's case. If you don't want to it's absolutely fine, just ignore this.

I do agree that love costs money too.. you can't actually keep on living if you don't have money, like literally.
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Hi Plutonian,


I must add that I have Venus conjunct Ceres in Capricorn and maybe that's why I must face fear to loses and learn a lesson here about letting people go.


I was born on a 13th December 1982. Natal Sun in Sadge, conjunct Venus-Ceres-South Node and Mercury all of them in Capricorn 11th house (Sun conjunct Neptune itself in 10th house).
My ex, who is a Libra Sun, was a Gemini Moon and a Mars-Venus Scorpio. In this sign, I have Moon conjunct Jupiter. His Sun was in my 8th house where I have natal Pluto conjunct Saturn in Scorpio. I caught him cheating on me, but the break up was a liberation to me, I felt like a slave in the late years of the relationship.


I don't know where the feeling of not love worthy comes from, maybe, I've had a lot of bretayal and deceptions throught my life. So tired of this, I never can trust anybody. I have natal Capricorn Lilith 12th house and maybe that's why, I've read that is like having a radar which can pick bad intentions and dangers that come from the rest of people.

Men I like tend to be kind at the beginning but then, they prefer to hung out with other kind of girls very different to me, girls who look alike rich, girls who have apparently a social image more powerful than mine. Then, these men seem to regret their decission and try to come back with me but, it's too late, I'LL BE GONE.

And this pattern started with my 11 years relationship ex.

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