posted April 05, 2019 05:30 PM            

Follow your heart...

posted April 05, 2019 05:47 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
It would be different if he had earth in his chart. Like Venus in Taurus instead of Venus in Gemini. I've read some many negative things about people who have Venus in Gemini. I don't think they are capable of being faithful. And the fact that we have harsh Mercury aspects makes it worse. I read that people with Venus in Gemini needs to have good mental communication, stimulation, and compatibility with the person who they are involved with. Otherwise, it won't work and Mercury square Mercury and Mercury square Mars makes for bad communication. I really think I am just going to forget about this. Too much uncertainty It seems like everyone I actually like I have bad communication with. And with people who I don't like we have good communication. It sucks but I guess that's just how life goes.
I'm just not going to communicate with him anymore.

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posted April 05, 2019 05:48 PM            

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Originally posted by ballerina:
Perhaps you should take
a break from astrology!?

Follow your heart...

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posted April 05, 2019 05:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
Agree. I'm sorry ChildofVenus, don't think Astrology is for you. You're taking one placement and defining ones' entire life path based on that.

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posted April 05, 2019 06:42 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Go look up Venus in Gemini on google you’ll see what I mean. I’ve made up my mind I don’t want to be bothered with this man. I’m moving on to someone else. I’ve been crying on and off the entire week over this situation. It’s too exhausting and stressful I don’t need this.

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Chill it's not over yet. Go to a bar to destress a bit. And moving on to someone else is only a temporary fix. You know it.

Post his chart, lemme shed some light on the situation. (And is his ToB correct?)

posted April 05, 2019 08:11 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
It would be different if he had earth in his chart. Like Venus in Taurus instead of Venus in Gemini.

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Thanks for the compliment, I do have Venus in Taurus.

In all honesty he probably already knows you like him anyway..Gem's read clues and put them together.

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posted April 05, 2019 09:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
@Dumuzi show what you got lol I'm burnt out

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posted April 05, 2019 10:08 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
It would be different if he had earth in his chart. Like Venus in Taurus instead of Venus in Gemini. I've read some many negative things about people who have Venus in Gemini. I don't think they are capable of being faithful. And the fact that we have harsh Mercury aspects makes it worse. I read that people with Venus in Gemini needs to have good mental communication, stimulation, and compatibility with the person who they are involved with. Otherwise, it won't work and Mercury square Mercury and Mercury square Mars makes for bad communication. I really think I am just going to forget about this. Too much uncertainty It seems like everyone I actually like I have bad communication with. And with people who I don't like we have good communication. It sucks but I guess that's just how life goes.
I'm just not going to communicate with him anymore.

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you know sometimes squares are stimulating in their own way, sometimes things being too smooth are boring

wanting to be mentally stimulated doesnt necessarily mean wanting things to come easily just throwing that out there

i have a lot of cheater placements, but i never have 14 years so far and not even once; granted we're open but if my fiancee had never been ok with that i wouldve chosen her over anyone or anything

sometimes people just hit you in places where the imperfections and that sort of **** just doesnt matter (we have sun square mercury btw, that's a fun one with communication very often but we've managed) and sometimes there's ways aroumd difficulties that are meaningful

what youre doing right nowis running away becauseyou like the guy, and looking for potential issues and reasons to run away, and that's not a him issue and it has nothing to do with what's between the two of you either, that's just a you problem

you seem scared to care about anyone, and i get that, better than a lot of people do because i know what it is to never want to be that vulnerable with all the **** i've been through

but whether it works out or not what matters is you learning to allow yourself that vulnerabity and that openness because without it you can't truly find a deep meaningful connection

like i said before sometimes the only way to get anywhere is to make yourself uncomfortable and do something that youre scared to do

you like someone? say it, think of how many times it wouldve been nice for you to have heard that from someone else and be that person who says that kind of ****

don't cut someone off who you care about over a chart because whether it works or not even if he isnt faithful (and lets be real here sometimes being unfaithful or unavailable isnt another person it can be work too or preoccuptation with something that takes away from your partner, sometimes the things that take precedenceover partnership arent a person at all) he didnt do anything to deserve that

you both like each other, act like it; everyone loses with fear based games

posted April 07, 2019 11:04 AM            

getting hurt at some point is highly likely when you let someone else in, because people aren't perfect they **** up and make mistakes and you will too; relationships are complicated

i've pushed plenty of people away in my life for that exact reason, and the ones who stayed anyway because they knew i'd do that even to my own detriment and cared in spite of it were hurt by that and that was me hurting people i care about because of my own ******** and fears and that isn't fair to do to anyone and it doesn't make **** better

maybe no one else will ever hurt you in a way you're scared of if you never let them close enough to, but you're definitely going to hurt people who care by closing yourself off and you'll hurt yourself too by doing it

build enough walls between you and everyone and you'll just trap yourself and feel empty

and besides you act like getting hurt a few times just destroys everything, it doesn't, all depends on the future from that point

someone you care about can hurt you once and then you both can learn and grow from it and build something better past the pain or you might hurt them and that won't mean there was never any love or care or that it's been completely diminished because of mistakes just means one of you ****** up and that's life

pain is unavoidable, and while it isn't wanted that doesn't make it entirely bad either you can grow from it and learn

cutting yourself off from pain cuts you off from pleasure too, you avoid all the upsides of deeper relationships because you were scared of taking a risk and had no faith in your own ability to recover and move on if something went poorly

you arent invulnerable to pain just because you run from it, and you're suffering anyway because you agonize over imagined events where you get hurt and then add more pain by cutting off relationships with people you care about while they're still good

if you were happy about the idea of just ending things or even comfortable with it we wouldn't be having this discussion, we're having it because it isn't what you really want

what you really want is to have him in your life, so why self sabotage out of fear? and why possibly hurt him to avoid pain based on fear of imagined future events that hold no weight?

you might get hurt, but you'll heal and life will go on if you do at least you'll have good **** thrown in when you open yourself up though

posted April 07, 2019 11:26 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Go look up Venus in Gemini on google you’ll see what I mean.

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posted April 07, 2019 01:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i understand because i can be a lot like you that way, that's why i know it can be a really terrible fruitless way to be that ends up being more destructive than productive ultimately

getting hurt at some point is highly likely when you let someone else in, because people aren't perfect they **** up and make mistakes and you will too; relationships are complicated

i've pushed plenty of people away in my life for that exact reason, and the ones who stayed anyway because they knew i'd do that even to my own detriment and cared in spite of it were hurt by that and that was me hurting people i care about because of my own ******** and fears and that isn't fair to do to anyone and it doesn't make **** better

maybe no one else will ever hurt you in a way you're scared of if you never let them close enough to, but you're definitely going to hurt people who care by closing yourself off and you'll hurt yourself too by doing it

build enough walls between you and everyone and you'll just trap yourself and feel empty

and besides you act like getting hurt a few times just destroys everything, it doesn't, all depends on the future from that point

someone you care about can hurt you once and then you both can learn and grow from it and build something better past the pain or you might hurt them and that won't mean there was never any love or care or that it's been completely diminished because of mistakes just means one of you ****** up and that's life

pain is unavoidable, and while it isn't wanted that doesn't make it entirely bad either you can grow from it and learn

cutting yourself off from pain cuts you off from pleasure too, you avoid all the upsides of deeper relationships because you were scared of taking a risk and had no faith in your own ability to recover and move on if something went poorly

you arent invulnerable to pain just because you run from it, and you're suffering anyway because you agonize over imagined events where you get hurt and then add more pain by cutting off relationships with people you care about while they're still good

if you were happy about the idea of just ending things or even comfortable with it we wouldn't be having this discussion, we're having it because it isn't what you really want

what you really want is to have him in your life, so why self sabotage out of fear? and why possibly hurt him to avoid pain based on fear of imagined future events that hold no weight?

you might get hurt, but you'll heal and life will go on if you do at least you'll have good **** thrown in when you open yourself up though

it's lonely and sad always running away to avoid pain, nothing good comes from it other than you hurting yourself before other people do and thats not exactly good now is it?

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posted April 07, 2019 01:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
Hit the nail on the friggin head. Even for me lol. (any Mercury/Moon/Jupiter quintile in your chart perhaps lol)

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nah i just have a biquintile and it's mercury-mars no quintiles

my moon-mercury aspect is a trine (and theyre both trine uranus, part of that kite with venus) and both are sextile chiron (they all make an envelope pattern; mercury, moon, venus, uranus, and chiron) and my moon is part of a t-square too (venus, mars, moon) so is jupiter (jupiter, uranus, chiron)

posted April 07, 2019 02:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
D@mn it's that Chiron involved lol no doubt. I mean combined with the other planets it certainly amplifies it. I mean it's not the first time I'm thinking it, I think you just have a natural knack for it. Your talking style that is.

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a natural knack for what? you lost me lol

posted April 07, 2019 02:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
a natural knack for what? you lost me lol

edit: chiron is really strong in my chart though yeah, hits my ascendant too (trine), definitely not the most fortunate to have as far as prominent **** in a chart goes, but is what it is

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Lol I forgot to state the obvious. Dunno how to explain it, but a Jupiterian/Chironic bent. Like dunno just reread your posts as an outsider lol.

posted April 07, 2019 03:04 PM            

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Originally posted by kani:
very well explained dumuzi!

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thanks

@Brenda_S

i'd need shrooms to detach myself as much as i'd probably need to lol and it's been a minute unfortunately

it probably is why people have an easy time opening up to me (im sure the libra ascendant/venus conjunct thing helps too), but the thing about chiron is it's wounding so it being prominent comes with a lot of pain for the person who has it

posted April 07, 2019 03:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
thanks

@Brenda_S

i'd need shrooms to detach myself as much as i'd probably need to lol and it's been a minute unfortunately

it probably is why people have an easy time opening up to me (im sure the libra ascendant/venus conjunct thing helps too), but the thing about chiron is it's wounding so it being prominent comes with a lot of pain for the person who has it

so there's that side of it lol

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posted April 07, 2019 04:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
Wait lol explain to me the pain side of things. No I mean seriously.

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you want the autobiography or the chiron myth? lol

chiron was a healer with a wound that never healed as far as the myth goes, as far as the autobiography goes i've been through every kind of abuse emotional/physical/sexual (i don't remember a time in my childhood where abuse wasn't a thing and i'd be lying if i said all of that sort of **** ended in childhood), experienced all kinds of ****** living situations, been through a lot of damaging **** with addiction, been dealing with chronic health issues for years that had me near bedbound at one point fun **** like that

edit: i'm not going to go into full detail, i've never told anyone everything and i never will

@ChildofVenus

what exactly is it that's going on with this virgo that's negative (i know you two argue but to what extent? what exactly is there) why are gifts keeping you there if you feel like they're manipulative and not just gifts?

posted April 07, 2019 05:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
you want the autobiography or the chiron myth? lol

chiron was a healer with a wound that never healed as far as the myth goes, as far as the autobiography goes i've been through every kind of abuse emotional/physical/sexual (i don't remember a time in my childhood where abuse wasn't a thing and i'd be lying if i said all of that sort of **** ended in childhood), experienced all kinds of ****** living situations, been through a lot of damaging **** with addiction, been dealing with chronic health issues for years that had me near bedbound at one point fun **** like that

edit: i'm not going to go into full detail, i've never told anyone everything and i never will

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posted April 07, 2019 05:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
I'm sorry. Yeah I remember you mentioning it in the past... But I'm curious whether you're triggered again when dealing with other people? Like I understand Chiron as a separate entity. But the part I myself or whoever picks up on and when you're dealing with the 'healer' part of it, which in essence is part of a whole load of planets of yours... Like I dunno I'm curious if it's interconnected with your past I guess.

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it's cool, i don't expect anyone to keep track of all my **** lol

in contexts like this where i'm just talking, no, not at all

if i initiate the conversation in a way where i bring it up then i'm doing it in a manner where i'm in control of how far it goes and sharing it is only a vehicle to help the other person speak or see a different perspective, so it doesn't hurt

but i've had experiences that have brought **** up in ways that ****** with my head and been unpleasant and there's little things that get me every time

i can't handle people near me, especially behind me, if i'm at a sink so even washing dishes i need space and prefer to not even be spoken to because it makes me anxious and can cause full blown panic attacks (which some people in my life havent been able to grasp is an actual issue because i stay outwardly calm during them) though my fiancee can get away with it sometimes, she's the only person who doesn't get to me the way other people can with things (which is why she's also the only person i've ever had sober sex with, everyone else i've been completely **** faced with)

**** like that, and **** like last year while i was at work i heard some guy say to his son "i'll give you something to cry about" (after being a complete dick to the kid to begin with) and that straight up gave me a bad panic attack and i had to go hide for a few minutes to be able to handle that, just brought back all kinds of memories (heard that a lot, get hit and it wasn't enough to count or whatever and then that exact sentence followed by **** getting worse, but i wasn't really allowed to have feelings as a kid anyway) so that was fun

i'd be lying if i said i was unaffected still, but it's definitely lessened and i hide it well enough