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Topic: Relocation Charts
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Graham Knowflake Posts: 2448 From: Registered: Apr 2019
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posted September 11, 2020 11:17 AM
@ Travelman and vansio :What is needed now is a full interpretation of the relocated chart for the place of interest ... because that includes the effect/impact of both the (never-changing) planet-to-planet aspects AND the (changed by relocating) planet-to-angles. IP: Logged |
MMarie Knowflake Posts: 1232 From: Registered: Aug 2018
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posted September 11, 2020 12:13 PM
Hi graham! Would it be possible to check Paris, London and New York City for me? I am interviewing for a job with offices in Paris/ New York and also thinking about London. I know you are getting a lot of requests so no problem if not! Let me know any information I need to provide. IP: Logged |
Graham Knowflake Posts: 2448 From: Registered: Apr 2019
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posted September 12, 2020 12:55 AM
quote: Originally posted by MMarie: Hi graham! Would it be possible to check Paris, London and New York City for me? I am interviewing for a job with offices in Paris/ New York and also thinking about London. I know you are getting a lot of requests so no problem if not! Let me know any information I need to provide.
ASSUMING* that (with Placidus houses) your natal chart has Moon at 24Leo59, the ascendant at 08Leo31 and MC at 26Aries22 ... the placidus house scores for these relocations are :- PARIS, France Friendship and Family ............... 265 Love and Romance .................... 325 Vocation and Career .................. 30 Optimism and Opportunity ......... 0 Education and Communication ... 0 Culture and Creativity ................. 31 Responsibility and Focus ............ 0 Imagination and Inspiration ........ 189 Excitement and Instability ........... 47 LONDON, England
Friendship and Family ............... 67 Love and Romance .................... 16 Vocation and Career .................. 34 Optimism and Opportunity ......... 0 Education and Communication ... 0 Culture and Creativity ................. 0 Responsibility and Focus ............ 0 Imagination and Inspiration ........ 32 Excitement and Instability ........... 732 NEW YORK CITY, New York, USA
Friendship and Family ............... 380 Love and Romance .................... 625 Vocation and Career .................. 144 Optimism and Opportunity ......... 0 Education and Communication ... 0 Culture and Creativity ................. 0 Responsibility and Focus ............ 0 Imagination and Inspiration ........ 22 Excitement and Instability ........... 0 [ * if my assumptions are incorrect, please let me know - and I will run the program again.] IP: Logged |
MMarie Knowflake Posts: 1232 From: Registered: Aug 2018
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posted September 12, 2020 04:07 AM
Thank you Graham!! I very much appreciate it, you are very helpful! Yes all the info you have is correct. Wow the score for love and romance in New York City is so high! But career and opportunity for all places isn’t really much at all. Hmmm interesting. IP: Logged |
Graham Knowflake Posts: 2448 From: Registered: Apr 2019
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posted September 12, 2020 04:24 AM
quote: Originally posted by MMarie: Thank you Graham!! I very much appreciate it, you are very helpful! Yes all the info you have is correct. Wow the score for love and romance in New York City is so high! But career and opportunity for all places isn’t really much at all. Hmmm interesting.
For high career and opportunity scores, follow your Jupiter-on-MC line :- ATHENS Friendship and Family ............... 147 Love and Romance .................... 125 Vocation and Career .................. 805 Optimism and Opportunity ......... 763 Education and Communication ... 0 Culture and Creativity ................. 763 Responsibility and Focus ............ 0 Imagination and Inspiration ........ 56 Excitement and Instability ........... 0 IP: Logged |
vansio Knowflake Posts: 1653 From: the outskirts of Delphi Registered: Dec 2017
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posted September 12, 2020 05:50 AM
Because of my transition to vedic astrology, I have been studying the Vienna relocation chart in the sidereal Lahiri whole sign system and it’s divisional charts. That location already looks highly auspicious for a career in the arts, but still comparing. My Ascendant moves to the Uttara Phalguni pada 2 Nakshatra of Virgo, ruler of rasi is Mercury in 6th, it’s joy. Whereas, west of Vienna, because of whole signs and sidereal zodiac, my rising is the sign of Leo, with a Sun in the 7th House, rather than Jupiter rising as seen by tropical. In Vienna, between sidereal and tropical, my Venus moves to the 7th House, also of its joy. In the D10 divisional chart of Profession, for Vienna, Venus is in the first house in the sidereal Sign of Taurus, nakshatra Krittika. “Uttaraphalguni Pada-2 * Rising Makara-Draco = Svamsha Leadership Libra rules the 10th house in 9th-Division suggesting Venus-profiled careers in trade, diplomacy, bargaining, advocacy, peer-advising, counseling, contracts, alliances, marriage, trusts, justice, fairness, match-making, deal-making, exchange, equity, promises, covenant, legal settlement, balance, scalable measurement, arts of proportion, design arts, architectural engineering, interior design, arts of beautification, fashion modeling, musical harmony, arrangements, visual beauty, alignment, adjustment, attunement“ http://barbarapijan.com/bpa/Nakshatra_radical/12uttaraphalguni.htm in my sidereal whole sign birth chart, Venus is exalted, ruler of 5th-risk/creativity and 12th-foreign travel and business, placed in my 10th house of profession, I’m called to abide by her West of Vienna, in whole signs as Leo Ascendant, this poweful planet would be ruling other houses to be placed in the 8th House, also auspicious for inheritance/loans and psychoanalysis (what I was considering Switzerland for), but without the Malavya Yog I was born with IP: Logged |
MMarie Knowflake Posts: 1232 From: Registered: Aug 2018
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posted September 12, 2020 07:48 AM
quote: Originally posted by Graham: For high career and opportunity scores, follow your Jupiter-on-MC line :-[b]ATHENS Friendship and Family ............... 147 Love and Romance .................... 125 Vocation and Career .................. 805 Optimism and Opportunity ......... 763 Education and Communication ... 0 Culture and Creativity ................. 763 Responsibility and Focus ............ 0 Imagination and Inspiration ........ 56 Excitement and Instability ........... 0 [/B]
Oh ok thanks Graham!! I never thought about Athens before....very interesting. Even for culture and creativity the score is so high. That software you have is cool I’m going to go google it haha. IP: Logged |
Graham Knowflake Posts: 2448 From: Registered: Apr 2019
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posted September 12, 2020 10:11 AM
quote: Originally posted by vansio: Because of my transition to vedic astrology, I have been studying the Vienna relocation chart in the sidereal Lahiri whole sign system and it’s divisional charts. That location already looks highly auspicious for a career in the arts, but still comparing. My Ascendant moves to the Uttara Phalguni pada 2 Nakshatra of Virgo, ruler of rasi is Mercury in 6th, it’s joy. Whereas, west of Vienna, because of whole signs and sidereal zodiac, my rising is the sign of Leo, with a Sun in the 7th House, rather than Jupiter rising as seen by tropical. In Vienna, between sidereal and tropical, my Venus moves to the 7th House, also of its joy. In the D10 divisional chart of Profession, for Vienna, Venus is in the first house in the sidereal Sign of Taurus, nakshatra Krittika. “Uttaraphalguni Pada-2 * Rising Makara-Draco = Svamsha Leadership Libra rules the 10th house in 9th-Division suggesting Venus-profiled careers in trade, diplomacy, bargaining, advocacy, peer-advising, counseling, contracts, alliances, marriage, trusts, justice, fairness, match-making, deal-making, exchange, equity, promises, covenant, legal settlement, balance, scalable measurement, arts of proportion, design arts, architectural engineering, interior design, arts of beautification, fashion modeling, musical harmony, arrangements, visual beauty, alignment, adjustment, attunement“ http://barbarapijan.com/bpa/Nakshatra_radical/12uttaraphalguni.htm in my sidereal whole sign birth chart, Venus is exalted, ruler of 5th-risk/creativity and 12th-foreign travel and business, placed in my 10th house of profession, I’m called to abide by her West of Vienna, in whole signs as Leo Ascendant, this poweful planet would be ruling other houses to be placed in the 8th House, also auspicious for inheritance/loans and psychoanalysis (what I was considering Switzerland for), but without the Malavya Yog I was born with
The Sirius 3 software can draw your sidereal in whole sign natal chart (at Vienna), and produce a Vedic interpretation of it. ... There are several report options though, and I do not understand the terminology - so do not know if any of the following would be of use to you :- 1. Astrology Insight - Vedic, long (natural ben/mal, simple strength) 2. Astrology Insight - Vedic, long (natural ben/mal, shabala) 3. Astrology Insight - Vedic, long (functional ben/mal, simple strength) 4. Astrology Insight - Vedic, long (functional ben/mal, shabala) 5. 6. 7. 8. are short versions of the above long reports - and I guess ben/mal = benefic/malific
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vansio Knowflake Posts: 1653 From: the outskirts of Delphi Registered: Dec 2017
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posted September 12, 2020 10:33 AM
quote: Originally posted by Graham: 3. Astrology Insight - Vedic, long (functional ben/mal, simple strength) 4. Astrology Insight - Vedic, long (functional ben/mal, shabala)
Would be “Functional benefic/malefic” because relocation chart is study of the Ascendant and House Rulers and Planet positions, shifting. “Natural malefics” are Sun,Mars,Saturn, for example, but if you’re a Leo Rising, Sun is also a “functional benefic” for your chart, rather than only a natural malefic. I’m not familiar with shad bala but it’s likely more weighted calculation (Power of these planets) reading now. Shad- means 6. “The six factors of Shadbala are: 1) Positional Strength (Sthana Bala) 2) Directional Strength (Dig Bala) 3) Temporal Strength (Kala Bala) 4) Motional Strength (Chesta Bala) 5) Natural Strength (Naisargika Bala) 6) Aspectual Strength (Drik Bala)” I’m leaning towards keeping it simple but kind of a toss up considering a lot of these planets move to Houses of “their joy” and my Jupiter is Rx, making it stronger in the relocated 1st IP: Logged |
Graham Knowflake Posts: 2448 From: Registered: Apr 2019
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posted September 12, 2020 11:04 AM
quote: Originally posted by vansio: Would be “Functional benefic/malefic” because relocation chart is study of the Ascendant and House Rulers and Planet positions, shifting. “Natural malefics” are Sun,Mars,Saturn, for example, but if you’re a Leo Rising, Sun is also a “functional benefic” for your chart, rather than only a natural malefic. I’m not familiar with shad bala but it’s likely more weighted calculation (Power of these planets) reading now. Shad- means 6. “The six factors of Shadbala are: 1) Positional Strength (Sthana Bala) 2) Directional Strength (Dig Bala) 3) Temporal Strength (Kala Bala) 4) Motional Strength (Chesta Bala) 5) Natural Strength (Naisargika Bala) 6) Aspectual Strength (Drik Bala)” [b]I’m leaning towards keeping it simple but kind of a toss up considering a lot of these planets move to Houses of “their joy” and my Jupiter is Rx, making it stronger [/B]
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vansio Knowflake Posts: 1653 From: the outskirts of Delphi Registered: Dec 2017
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posted September 12, 2020 11:39 AM
thanks for this effort. ☸️maybe the “simple strength report” means it won’t generate interpretations in house system, which is essential if we are going to interpret theoretically. Shad bala may be necessary if at all I’m more curious to hear about planetary strength. in houses. if that’s at all available in Sirius 3 Vedic? Like similar to what is generated in western charts with aspects and angles. maybe this is pointless to use software if so, do you mind sharing shad bala ONLY if it describes the house placements .. but then also anticipate my cue to take down after I’ve collected the info? privacy is a virtue of mine IP: Logged |
Graham Knowflake Posts: 2448 From: Registered: Apr 2019
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posted September 12, 2020 01:06 PM
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vansio Knowflake Posts: 1653 From: the outskirts of Delphi Registered: Dec 2017
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posted September 12, 2020 02:03 PM
Hi graham, thank you for the data and for being so helpful. The “score” is more of what I already concluded, with some added mechanical interpretations and humorous contradictions. Looks good.. can now delete it 🙏🏽 thanks again It does beget the question of how much we might want to “protect” the ruler of the 1st house in relocating. IP: Logged |
Graham Knowflake Posts: 2448 From: Registered: Apr 2019
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posted September 12, 2020 02:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by vansio: Hi graham, thank you for the data and for being so helpful. The “score” is more of what I already concluded, with some added mechanical interpretations and humorous contradictions. Looks good.. can now delete it 🙏🏽 thanks again It does beget the question of how much we might want to “protect” the ruler of the 1st house in relocating.
And how important it is to look at/take account of the whole of the relocated chart, rather than just the planet(s) one wants to move closer to (or further from) an angle.IP: Logged |
vansio Knowflake Posts: 1653 From: the outskirts of Delphi Registered: Dec 2017
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posted September 12, 2020 05:47 PM
Right the energies get expressed in different arenas. What’s fundamental? According to the Ascendant, our guiding light, or principle, changes. In Vienna, as a Virgo rising, tropical and sidereal, seems as if I’ll be called to work more, 6th House matters—not so far off from the natal position of my NN... and more interestingly, also through the lens of sidereal/whole sign, the relocated SN moves to the 9th house, where originally the house where my (Gemini-Ascendant-ruler) Mercury is placed natally—collective Mercury footprints point to a relocated 3rd House (naturally ruled by Gemini) NN orientation. Not sure about the connection I’m making but it stands out to me. IP: Logged |
Graham Knowflake Posts: 2448 From: Registered: Apr 2019
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posted September 12, 2020 11:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by vansio: Right the energies get expressed in different arenas. What’s fundamental? According to the Ascendant, our guiding light, or principle, changes. In Vienna, as a Virgo rising, tropical and sidereal, seems as if I’ll be called to work more, 6th House matters—not so far off from the natal position of my NN... and more interestingly, also through the lens of sidereal/whole sign, the relocated SN moves to the 9th house, where originally the house where my (Gemini-Ascendant-ruler) Mercury is placed natally—collective Mercury footprints point to a relocated 3rd House (naturally ruled by Gemini) NN orientation. Not sure about the connection I’m making but it stands out to me.
Perhaps the emerging point/connection is that people could use relocation to identify the location at which he/she will be most likely to be recognise-and-address what is "promised" by one or more of their natal chart indicators. So ... for example ... someone with suppressed behavioural traits that they are unable to recognise at location A might easily recognise them at location B.
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 138877 From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 18, 2020 02:23 PM
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viviette Knowflake Posts: 331 From: FR Registered: Feb 2018
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posted September 18, 2020 05:49 PM
I saw someone on the net who offers a reading for 30, but it is per specific town query.IP: Logged |
Travelman Knowflake Posts: 258 From: world Registered: Mar 2011
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posted September 22, 2020 08:02 AM
@Graham: I am wondering, what would be the easiest way to determine the top 3 cities in Europe/Russia as far as love and romance score for myself? There are a few places I have always been drawn to for their potential. IP: Logged |
Travelman Knowflake Posts: 258 From: world Registered: Mar 2011
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posted September 22, 2020 09:37 AM
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Graham Knowflake Posts: 2448 From: Registered: Apr 2019
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posted September 22, 2020 01:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by Travelman: @Graham: I am wondering, what would be the easiest way to determine the top 3 cities in Europe/Russia as far as love and romance score for myself? There are a few places I have always been drawn to for their potential.
Put the mid-point of your natal Venus/Mars on an angle ... then look for places (on the world map) where that line is crossed by (say) a Venus/Moon mid-point line. ... (That would put you in Torva, Estonia - with a 1000 score for love/romance and 843 for friends/family ... but no score for anything else, perhaps because you'd be too busy!). Pick the 3 places where Venus/Mars is on Asc/Dsc and crossed by a line from a soft planet (or mid-point of two soft planets). IP: Logged |
Travelman Knowflake Posts: 258 From: world Registered: Mar 2011
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posted September 23, 2020 03:16 PM
haha, I think with a population of just about 3000, not too much! But thanks! IP: Logged |
stone1 Knowflake Posts: 165 From: Registered: May 2020
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posted September 23, 2020 06:58 PM
Graham, does sirus 3 have mac version? or do you know any software has mac version? thanksIP: Logged |
vansio Knowflake Posts: 1653 From: the outskirts of Delphi Registered: Dec 2017
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posted November 25, 2020 01:43 AM
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Graham Knowflake Posts: 2448 From: Registered: Apr 2019
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posted November 25, 2020 08:20 AM
quote: Originally posted by stone1: Graham, does sirus 3 have mac version? or do you know any software has mac version? thanks
What do you want the software to produce? IP: Logged | |