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plutonianmenace
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posted September 15, 2021 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Something I notice that drives Scorpios is envy. They get jealous and try to start a war out of jealousy but mask it in a self-righteous way.

A good example is when Ray Benzino (not a Scorpio but I'll get to that) tried to go at Eminem. He tried to make it about race but was actually jealous of what Eminem accomplished. Needless to say, Eminem torched him.

You may ask who Ray Benzino is, yeah...that's because that's how bad Eminem torched him. Torched him out of people's memory.

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posted September 15, 2021 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my issue is not with who Scorpios are, it is with the narrative people are pushing of them being John Wick and it is spreading wide, I'd say Mars in Scorpio is the most overrated placement in all of astrology, more on that later though

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posted September 15, 2021 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
I don’t really believe in karma, and don’t wish it on anyone. But if karma does exist, good karma is there, too.

I do know that something protects me for sure, I have jupiter in the 12th conjunct Uranus so tend to have hidden unexpected friends, also I have a sweetness about me but also this strength and intensity that comes from Mars in Leo in the 8th and I am not shy at all about standing up for myself and you will feel my presence and intensity and usually that is enough for people to not mess with me but if they do I always land on my feet and is like their bad intentions turn into an opportunity for me; I land on my feet and land somewhere better ultimately.

I do believe in karma but is complicated, I see karma as lessons you have not integrated so yes I think there are universal laws that play out that push everyone towards situations and experiences that will force them to integrate important lessons so if your intentions are bad towards me that somehow will back fire.

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posted September 15, 2021 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
my issue is not with who Scorpios are, it is with the narrative people are pushing of them being John Wick and it is spreading wide, I'd say Mars in Scorpio is the most overrated placement in all of astrology, more on that later though

I agree about mars in scorpio for sure.

I will say I like scorpio or pluto energy bc of their ability to love hard and their ability for forming deep bonds and deeper intimacy but is all or nothing with scorpio which has its issues and they can have an avoidant attachment style do to fear of betrayal, getting hurt, trust issues and sometimes use sex to avoid intimacy and feel in control so there are two sides of this coin too.

Also scorpio/pluto connected to the career houses will make someone very driven if they connect with a career path that is meaningful to them and that intensity can be put to good use.

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posted September 15, 2021 08:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I don't go around fu*king with people period, regardless of what sign they are lol. I like for people to stay out of my way and I stay out of people's way.

I am a therapist, I have met a ton of scorpios as a counselor so I've gotten to know them at their most vulnerable and know how they think/are, most of them are not vindictive people but yes let's keep perpetrating this myth.

Also when people try to hurt me it usually doesn't work out for them, karma takes care of it. Almost like if you try to hurt me you end up hurting yourself.


Well, considering how secretive and distrustful Scorpios tend to be, I would say that those who seek therapy are on another level. They are willing to look at themselves and they are willing to let someone help them.

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posted September 15, 2021 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
Well, considering how secretive and distrustful Scorpios tend to be, I would say that those who seek therapy are on another level. They are willing to look at themselves and they are willing to let someone help them.

I have also had multiple scorpio lovers and my ex was a scorpio...

IDK I think we are both right but I feel that type of scorpio is overly represented.

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posted September 16, 2021 03:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 16, 2021 03:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
People are thinking I am obsessed with a sign when really, I am upset at the biased narrative that I think needs to be silenced. They say Scorpios can beat certain signs because they are plotting, strategic, and supposedly malicious but I disagree. My problem is not who they are but rather how they are presented as this unbeatable force when really, they have countless objective weaknesses which I will get to.

Like just look at any astrology blog which compares them to other signs, it shows them as unforgiving and such but it also makes it out to be that they do not have objective weaknesses that fail to be exploited. I will be listing out those weaknesses very soon.


Yeah, but why? Maybe it’s just that I haven’t been obsessed with astrology for years now. I stopped paying attention for a while, and I don’t keep up with my transits.

People usually have an issue with the way their own planets can be described, unless they have an issue with someone of another sign.

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posted September 16, 2021 06:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Honestly, I am much more worried about Cappies and Cancers and that's coming from someone that IS a Cancer/Cap! I've never had issues with Scorpios being "this or that". Yes, many of them have had very tough childhoods (especially the moons) but I've never experienced them being anything that's said, expect for resilient. But to make them into some type of über sign or more or less saying they are complete socio/psychopaths is a tad of a stretch me thinks.

Also, aren't ASPECTS in a chart ever considered?? Me having Virgo Mars 1H conjunct Asc is far more aggressive than my husband's Aries Sun/Mercury 1H, as an example.

I would be more worried about someone having a Cancer Sun in hard aspect to Pluto than a straight Scorpio Sun.

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posted September 17, 2021 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 93nov     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Broken people aren’t usually terrible people.

*drops mic*

I'm not broken. Very resilient actually.. like a lot of Scorpios.

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posted September 17, 2021 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 93nov     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Here are some of the weaknesses of a Scorpio which I think make them ripe for a take down or just to be harmed if push comes to shove.

[b]They are too emotionally compromised to think straight.

Fixed water, water is emotions, they are too fueled by that to actually think straight. I think Scorpios lack the objectiveness that an earth sign might have and are not like air signs where they can detach from emotions. It is fun actually, almost like Oberlyn Martel from Game Of Thrones so upset at what The Mountain did to his sister that he tries to get revenge but leaves a lot of holes in his victory, which gets him killed by The Mountain. That is a Scorpio, they are all bark, no bite.

They leave a lot of blind spots due to being emotionally compromised.

They may have some will power but they leave a lot of openings for you to exploit them. A lot I know have been fired because someone recorded them undercover trying to trash talk another person or brag about cheating on their wives. Needless to say, the downfall was beautiful.

They make a lot of enemies, who come back to bite them.

A Scorpio will make a ton of enemies along the way due to the people they have burned. I have seen someone get one sent to jail after enough evidence because of the people that Scorpio conned. Given the people they burned, everyone laughed and wished them the worst. They make more enemies than they know what to do with and lack that finesse that Libras and air signs have. When it comes to it, those chickens come home to roost.

They are awful at open warfare.

I notice that they operate well when in the shadows but once out in the open, they end up getting pummeled. People can see through a lot of things. They are the scheming coworker which brings me to my next point.

They are effective against people close to them, they are not really formidable opponents at all.

In fact, I'd venture to say that they can hurt their spouse or their children but come someone who is an actual threat? They are cowards. They cannot do well in direct confrontations, they end up getting pummeled hard and fast. If others are on to them, they are ineffective.

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Scorpio stellium here!

I agree somewhat.

A lot of the men are cowards.. not so much the women from my own experience.

I do make a pretty tough opponent in any setting but I do have more control when my emotions aren't involved which would be just like anyone I would assume..

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posted September 17, 2021 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 93nov     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These descriptions are so cut and dry.. and really describes anyone who is in a state of vengeance.

The thing with other people vs Scorpios, we don't forget and we feel very deeply.

So many people walk around doing "seemingly" harmless stuff only to one day do it to the wrong Scorpio and now you're on an Astrology forum telling others how horrible we are for coming after you.

Everyone handles conflict differently. Scorpios want you to hurt just as much as you hurt us. An eye for an eye... and although it'll leave everyone blind, at least you felt that s*%# too. Haha. This is the Scorpio motto.

We are "unbeatable" in the sense of resilience and ruthlessness. When we want something, good or bad, the energy we dedicate to it is unmatched. The energy is repulsive to a "normal" person.

Everything is centered around perspective and most if not all Scorpios have seen the more harsher parts of life before we were ready or could even fully process what was happening. These experiences don't just go away as time goes on.. so you know what usually ends up happening? We find a way to blend in with the rest of y'all "happy go lucky" "roll with the punches life throws at you" folks.

My tone is both prideful and defensive..

We get such a bad rep that isn't completely deserved. I can't speak for all Scorpios, but then again.. neither can you.

I am not broken or cruel. I am overprotective of myself and still healing. There is a big difference.

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posted September 17, 2021 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^ No need to apologize for who you are and your personality quirks.

I personally love Scorpios and their convoluted emotions. I am not bothered by it. They have never hurt me, even when they have tried. I had a Scorpio boss who started an open warfare with me, and each time he took jabs at me, I was vindicated. It was eerie. I think it was my Saturn in Scorpio that acted as a protector.

ETA: Each sign brings diversity to the human spectrum of emotions. Again, no need to apologize for your quirks.

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posted September 17, 2021 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
J'adore Scorpio for the record. I'm one rising in SR as well.

I can say as far as I've encountered them, they are fine with other's, not bad at all unless you cross them. Tbh who wants that anyway? 11 other signs can share neg sides too!

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For the topic ..
In my chart Jupiter in 12th opposite my Saturn is a key to my sensitive nature towards (wrong) Authority. I can sense when authority is being misused. I am not someone who likes anyone breathing down my neck with anything I do, it is most successful without hens of the pecking order watching my each move.

I can be VERY good at working with other's when we have boundaries. My Scorpio Jupiter brings a protection with it in 12th. I believe that is how I'm innate about my perception of wrongful authority. My abuse in workplaces used to be off the wall. After my being treated poorly, after leaving I heard at each place how terrible the last employees got it. Tbh my stories of those places were bad but the ones after me - far worse.

In 12th Scorpio Jupiter protection might have saved me against men too. I had awful
encounters that may had turned out worse there - which my gut, maybe those unseen forces - were with me! One guy I know turned out to be a murderer. I'm here talking of it, so yeah - Scorpio can give an ability to perceive danger and treat individuals by the perception given in what way they may decide.

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posted September 17, 2021 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 93nov:
*drops mic*

I'm not broken. Very resilient actually.. like a lot of Scorpios.


I’m sure you are. you said that people who didn’t let life break them, still have that amazing side. Life broke me. Several times. I’m still here, and I’m not a monster. Scorpio ascendant, moon/Venus/SN in the 8th.

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posted September 17, 2021 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 17, 2021 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There we go, there we go, there goes the BS nonsense I have been calling out.

No you do not have unrelenting or passionate energy, this is delusion if I ever saw it and THIS is the reason I am even posting this thread. Every viral garbage blog on astrology posted likely be a bored and bitter Scorpio down on his luck and with envy towards other signs says this nonsense and I am making it my life's mission to dispel this nonsense and expose just how much you clowns are self-promoting yourself behind the disguise as anonymous writers the same way Upton Sinclair exposed the unsanitary conditions in the meat industry.

I don't care how many enemies I make but I have had it with this nonsense. You wish you had drive, you have none.

You are far from resilient, far from it. You encounter struggles and you curl up like babies and cry, you are the most sensitive of all the water signs and this is not even up for debate. You get your feelings hurt and then you curl up crying yourself to sleep, that's your sign in a heartbeat.

You are also far from ruthless, you wish you were ruthless, it is the story you tell yourself when other actually ruthless people are having success in life and climbing to the top.

You know when I see Scorpios having success? When they get damned lucky through being born into wealth and even then, they are chronic underachievers. They have earned nothing in life and spend their whole lives jealous of other people's success.

Why is it that whenever a Scorpio wins at anything? It has a HUGE asterisk attached to it?

Like Biden having to rely on a fraudulent election to be president and even then, he is seen as a joke by the whole world and the whole country.

And is that why Scorpios are so bitter?

Because they know this for a fact.

They know that without a trust fund, they are bitter underacheivers.

They know that they do not get the promotion unless 10 other people in front of them decline it.

They know that even for those obsessed with astrology, Mars is exalted in Capricorn while these fillthy animals have to beg and plead the internet to promote the most overrated placement in all of astrology (Mars in Scorpio) out to be a god send.

They know that even when it comes to crime, Capricorns and air signs eat their cake.

Is that it?

I am not mad because I got done poorly by someone of that sign, in fact I successfully got a couple of them fired after one raped a female coworker of mines and thought he could get away with it. He is rotting in prison and I hope to god someone is pushing his **** in.

I am mad because somehow and someway, astrology decided to promote these subhuman wastes as resilient and the "strongest sign".

I am going to challenge this narrative until the day I die and be the Upton Sinclair of this false narrative being pushed.

Oh and btw, here is the end result of a Scorpio trying to fight:

https://c.tenor.com/X9PyOa_947UAAAAd/kamara-usman-jorge-masvidal.gif

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posted September 17, 2021 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And honestly, I don't get this whole vengeance thing.

Most I know ALWAYS start a fight, ALWAYS. There is no exception to this rule, they are always the ones trying to stir the pot. Overtime, I managed to get familiar with why they do it too, it's because they suck when it comes to actually doing the job. Most are lazy, lack talent, and only get anywhere they get in life due to nepotism or the position being one that no one wants.

It's never really their talents that get them ahead, it's just some of them getting lucky.

So don't go around spreading this whole victim nonsense, you all start the fight, always. I am so happy God made Tauruses, Aquas, and Leos to pummel and end you ******* clowns. One Scorpio tried to mess with my friend and this Leo broke that son of a ***** 's jaw and give him lifelong head trauma, it's good for it to happen, let him try to stir the pot again.

I've had it, its time to let the world know how one sign has been manipulating information to make themselves out to be powerful when really they are just a bunch of scared crybabies with lots of time on their hands.

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posted September 17, 2021 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Radium     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Watch what you say about Scorpio Mars people.

My boy Kurt Cobain is one. Slow ur road @plutonian

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posted September 17, 2021 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
plutonianmenace, when you go off the handle like this about a sign, it's hard to take you seriously.

You have a good provocative thread so far. Why mess it up?

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posted September 17, 2021 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 93nov:
*drops mic*

I'm not broken. Very resilient actually.. like a lot of Scorpios.


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posted September 17, 2021 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:

I’m going to delete, but I just don’t believe in it.

I hear you there, I understand where you're coming from. I mean you could be right, I don't know for certain at the end of the day if karma exists, it could all just be random but in this random chaos we also can create positive experiences for ourselves to make our time worth while here and we can reflect. That is my existential side now talking with you.

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posted September 17, 2021 11:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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plutonianmenace, when you go off the handle like this about a sign, it's hard to take you seriously.

You have a good provocative thread so far. Why mess it up?


I think a Scorpio stole his Saggy girl that he wanted for himself and he feels insulted and can't get over it, he can't believe someone would reject his leo but* and leave him for a scorpio.

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posted September 18, 2021 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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plutonianmenace, when you go off the handle like this about a sign, it's hard to take you seriously.

You have a good provocative thread so far. Why mess it up?


I will say this, Scorpios often go to war, I have met a couple that have gone to war, they are willing to die for what they love, protectors, but some kill themselves like a past lover I suspect either killed himself or died from doing something kinky, he had pluto rising with mars opposing his AC in Scorpio.

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I know 3 Scorpio Suns and I get along with them just fine. Only thing I see they have in common is a dramatic love life. They seem to be attracted to complicated relationships and 2 of them had affairs. Scorpio’s are known for being secretive but they always seem to trust me very easily. Maybe it’s my H8 Mercury? I even feel that they overshare with me. I don’t need to know everything about your love live. Too much information!

My (ex) sister in law has Scorpio Moon and she is a total sweetheart. She has a much less dramatic love live than the Scorpio Suns. Definitely more closed up about what goes on inside her head though I know she has shared info with me the rest of the family doesn’t know. She’s very loyal and called me after she heard about the divorce to let me know she still feels I’m family.

My father, my brother and my grandfather (my mother’s father) all have/had a Scorpio Mars. They could be broody and definitely have anger/action motivated by emotions. Stubborn as hell (fixed sign Mars) and I know stubborn (I’ve got a Taurus stellium). They were all seen as attractive men. Mars is at home in Scorpio and all 3 definitely had alpha male energy going on. They might not win the confrontation but they were not going to run away from it either.

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