posted September 18, 2021 12:44 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I think a Scorpio stole his Saggy girl that he wanted for himself and he feels insulted and can't get over it, he can't believe someone would reject his leo but* and leave him for a scorpio.

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posted September 18, 2021 02:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
plutonianmenace, when you go off the handle like this about a sign, it's hard to take you seriously.

You have a good provocative thread so far. Why mess it up?

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posted September 18, 2021 02:14 PM            

& passion is literally the epitome of what a Scorpio is all about. (Give or take other aspects of course)

& it's all a matter of perspective.. some people believe passion solely involves money. If you aren't making huge amounts of money then you aren't passionate about life. I don't look at life in this way.

Same logic applies to just about any scenario.

Scorpios, in general, are passionate.. but where exactly the energy is applies depends on a few other factors like which signs are in Scorpio and the house(s) they're in. If there are other aspects that would dilute this trait.

I will say.. this can be very annoying to the more easygoing types. I can literally see me sucking the life out of you guys.. haha.

Example: People can't sit with me for too long because I prefer silence vs small talk. This could be viewed as stoic too.. but the difference is in the energy. More Cappy-like, stoic types are solid.. they don't move much.. you can pretty much sit with their energy without too much of a fuss. Water types.. Scorpio specifically, being the topic here.. our energy has some heaviness to it. Our silence carries a weight with it.. like if we start talking, we're liable to have you on all fours in tears, begging for us to stop so you better get the f%#* out of here.

This has been my experience since I was a little girl. I'll be 28 this year. I have tried several different approaches and have actually been successful. I can turn it on and off thanks to my Libra Moon (trine Saturn). Taurus ASC. Mars in Sagittarius. I have Sun, Mercury, Venus, Jupiter, Pluto in Scorpio. Pluto opposite ASC, conjunct Sun and Mars.

posted September 20, 2021 03:05 AM            

https://www.elsaelsa.com/forum/astrology/attacked-by-mars-in-scorpio/

posted September 20, 2021 07:06 AM            

One Scorpio ex-colleague repeatedly picked on me even though I did nothing to her. She made herself out to be the melancholic loner but when she saw colleagues hanging out with me, she got jealous. She eventually found an opportunity to spread lies about me, painted herself as the victim and made everyone ostracize me for 2 whole years until the truth came to light and they realised what a liar she was. But it was too late as damage was done. She single-handedly broke up the team.

My ex-boss is also a Scorpio. Three teams have mass quit under her management. Once we held a big company event and she was the overall IC. Long story short…we were overwhelmed at the reception and radio-ed her for help but she was unresponsive the whole time. Later we found out that she got drunk and was puking in the toilet. After the event some of us complained about her irresponsible behaviour, and guess what? She pinned the blame on me.

I’ve two aunts who are also Scorpio. When my mom accidentally offended them (verbally), they stopped talking to our entire family for more than 10 years. I remember feeling hurt and confused as I didn’t know what happened. I got really mad when my 2yo niece talked to one of them and she just stared at my niece coldly. No doubt my mom offended them but what has that gotta do with the rest of us?

I know not all Scorpios are so low-vibrating. My point is it is not true that Scorpios only react when people hurt/offend them. Some can initiate aggression while crying “victim”, insisting that others hurt them first.

posted September 20, 2021 01:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
I don’t agree with everything OP said but I just wanna echo some points - one of which is the infamous Scorpio revenge. Scorpios often said they don’t hurt you unless you hurt them first but I’ve experienced them picking on people who have done nothing to them, just because...

One Scorpio ex-colleague repeatedly picked on me even though I did nothing to her. She made herself out to be the melancholic loner but when she saw colleagues hanging out with me, she got jealous. She eventually found an opportunity to spread lies about me, painted herself as the victim and made everyone ostracize me for 2 whole years until the truth came to light and they realised what a liar she was. But it was too late as damage was done. She single-handedly broke up the team.

My ex-boss is also a Scorpio. Three teams have mass quit under her management. Once we held a big company event and she was the overall IC. Long story short…we were overwhelmed at the reception and radio-ed her for help but she was unresponsive the whole time. Later we found out that she got drunk and was puking in the toilet. After the event some of us complained about her irresponsible behaviour, and guess what? She pinned the blame on me.

I’ve two aunts who are also Scorpio. When my mom accidentally offended them (verbally), they stopped talking to our entire family for more than 10 years. I remember feeling hurt and confused as I didn’t know what happened. I got really mad when my 2yo niece talked to one of them and she just stared at my niece coldly. No doubt my mom offended them but what has that gotta do with the rest of us?

I know not all Scorpios are so low-vibrating. My point is it is not true that Scorpios only react when people hurt/offend them. Some can initiate aggression while crying “victim”, insisting that others hurt them first.

The funny thing is I’ve seen Scorpios tolerating all kinds of betrayal from people they love.

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You are correct. It is not factually true to say that Scorpio only come after you if you hurt them first.

Because of Scorpio's often convoluted emotions, they can take offense and feel hurt in situations where no offense or hurt was done or meant.

My Scorpio ex-boss who kept coming after me for months and failed each time due to my protective Saturn in Scorpio, I still have no idea why he went on a war path on me. I had done nothing wrong to him. I had no beef with him.

posted September 20, 2021 03:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:

And regarding my Scorpio ex-boyfriend who hinted at physical revenge if a woman cheated on him or "deserted" him. A woman has the right to change her mind and break up with a man. He might call it "deserting" him, but she is still entirely within her rights and she doesn't deserve to have revenge exacted on her. I mean, anyone has the right to break up with someone.

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100% agree. What was your exe's mars like?

The Scorpios I come across are more likely to say things like "I will die for you" instead of "I will kill you if you betray me." However I attract a lot other men with neptunian moons so that could be why so the Scorpio in them manifests in a more sacrificial way hence why you need to look at the entire chart. My ex is a Scorpio with moon in pisces square Neptune and he has mars conjunct Neptune in Saggy, not a vindictive guy or the type to hurt you if you walk away or betray him but he will cut you out yet a part of him will always care about you, that is who he is.

posted September 20, 2021 05:08 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
100% agree. What was your exe's mars like?

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I have no idea what the particulars of his chart were. At the time, I was just a budding astrologer and sun signs were all that mattered to me.

posted September 24, 2021 12:15 AM            

One thing I've learned though? Scorpios WILL drain passionate people. They HATE passionate people and will latch on to them like a leech. I think its because deep down inside they know that they frankly have no talents. Even the ones who succeed in life, they do so because the reality is that they just got into a really good situation in life like being born rich. Every win in these clowns' lives have an asterisk attached to it.

They hate anyone who is passionate and driven, it makes them feel inferior. It makes them accept the fact that they are not amounting to anything in life and outside of being born into a good situation (rich parents), they are practically worthless people. Envy drives this sign.

It is why they try to pick fights with people.

The problem is, I am beyond frustrated that this story is not being told. I am beyond frustrated that everywhere you turn, its this sign being formidable or strong. They are cowards, snakes, and leeches. This needs to be a story told and it is perhaps the biggest injustice in all of astrology that this cowardly sign is somehow being seen as strong.

posted September 24, 2021 12:20 AM            

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Originally posted by Gracha:
I agree. They are so unhinged emotionally that you can play them like a fiddle. I worked with a sneaky snake Scorpio woman. She was terrible would talk crap behind my back then I'd confront her, it's oh no I didn't say that, like she wouldn't confess up to the wrong doing. She was very controlling, I notice this in Scorpio women,alot. I have Scorpio sisters, they are mean, callous and controlling. I'm an Aries with Gemini moon, nobody tells me what to do especially when your stuff isn't together. I don't need nor want to control anyone but Scorpio women have irked me in that regard, thankfully I know how to keep my emotions in check and use logic to beat them and go about my day.

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posted September 24, 2021 12:21 AM            

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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
I am not even angry at the sign as much as I am about how falsely it is portrayed. There is nothing intense, brave, or courageous about these clowns. They are like Cassius from Julius Caesar, angry bitter snakes.

One thing I've learned though? Scorpios WILL drain passionate people. They HATE passionate people and will latch on to them like a leech. I think its because deep down inside they know that they frankly have no talents. Even the ones who succeed in life, they do so because the reality is that they just got into a really good situation in life like being born rich. Every win in these clowns' lives have an asterisk attached to it.

They hate anyone who is passionate and driven, it makes them feel inferior. It makes them accept the fact that they are not amounting to anything in life and outside of being born into a good situation (rich parents), they are practically worthless people. Envy drives this sign.

It is why they try to pick fights with people.

The problem is, I am beyond frustrated that this story is not being told. I am beyond frustrated that everywhere you turn, its this sign being formidable or strong. They are cowards, snakes, and leeches. This needs to be a story told and it is perhaps the biggest injustice in all of astrology that this cowardly sign is somehow being seen as strong.

It's wrong and we need the Upton Sinclair of our time to root out this corruption.

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posted September 24, 2021 12:39 AM            

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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
Capricorns are amazing, I respect their work ethic. Scorpios must cry themselves to sleep knowing that their sorry overrated Mars sign is a peasant compared to the exalted Capricorn mars.

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posted September 24, 2021 01:18 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Why are you so desperately trying to belittle Scorpios is the real question?

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A Scorpio Sun and/or Mars supposedly got him fired or something like that. I posted a couple of links above of his posts in another astrology forum with a few examples of his cray cray.

If a Capricorn Mars had wronged him then that placement would be the most overrated and others would be the best, blah blah. Just, you know, not the one that wronged him, dammit!

posted September 24, 2021 01:23 AM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
And regarding my Scorpio ex-boyfriend who hinted at physical revenge if a woman cheated on him or "deserted" him. A woman has the right to change her mind and break up with a man. He might call it "deserting" him, but she is still entirely within her rights and she doesn't deserve to have revenge exacted on her. I mean, anyone has the right to break up with someone.

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posted September 24, 2021 01:40 AM            

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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
I am not even angry at the sign as much as I am about how falsely it is portrayed. There is nothing intense, brave, or courageous about these clowns. They are like Cassius from Julius Caesar, angry bitter snakes.

One thing I've learned though? Scorpios WILL drain passionate people. They HATE passionate people and will latch on to them like a leech. I think its because deep down inside they know that they frankly have no talents. Even the ones who succeed in life, they do so because the reality is that they just got into a really good situation in life like being born rich. Every win in these clowns' lives have an asterisk attached to it.

They hate anyone who is passionate and driven, it makes them feel inferior. It makes them accept the fact that they are not amounting to anything in life and outside of being born into a good situation (rich parents), they are practically worthless people. Envy drives this sign.

It is why they try to pick fights with people.

The problem is, I am beyond frustrated that this story is not being told. I am beyond frustrated that everywhere you turn, its this sign being formidable or strong. They are cowards, snakes, and leeches. This needs to be a story told and it is perhaps the biggest injustice in all of astrology that this cowardly sign is somehow being seen as strong.

It's wrong and we need the Upton Sinclair of our time to root out this corruption.

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posted September 24, 2021 01:42 AM            

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Originally posted by scorpiogirl:
A Scorpio Sun and/or Mars supposedly got him fired or something like that. I posted a couple of links above of his posts in another astrology forum with a few examples of his cray cray.

If a Capricorn Mars had wronged him then that placement would be the most overrated and others would be the best, blah blah. Just, you know, not the one that wronged him, dammit!

Leos with hurt prides are so annoying.

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posted September 24, 2021 01:47 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
On one hand you feel the astrological community worships scorpios and on the other hand you basically feel they are worthless and feel so triggered by it and intensely about it, so you are describing two extremes, the truth is not black and white like that, they are not gods but yes they are special and valuable and so am I as a virgo in a different way, is not an Effing competition.

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posted September 24, 2021 08:43 AM            

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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
@plutonianmenace
Have you ever checked your draconic chart? With your ability to hold a grudge like no other, you might be more Scorpio than you would like to admit. The Leo you posted about in your first posts, and likely is your own birth chart (with a Gemini Mars), has a Scorpio Ascendant, Sun, Mercury and Venus in draco.

“Knowing yourself is the beginning of all knowledge” - Aristotle

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posted September 24, 2021 01:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Franco:

I am intrigued to know because I myself am a sun, mercury, venus and pluto in scorpio with mars R in gemini (h5). How do you think this combination of Scorpio with Mars in the air sign?

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astro.com has an extended chart selection section and is easy to generate your draco chart from there.

I have Venus and Mars and mercury in gemini in draco and moon in Capricorn and sun in cancer.

Since we both have moon in pisces basically 1 degree away I would think you have moon in Capricorn in draco as well.

I am very compassionate but also hold people accountable which can make me seem "cold" (draco in cappy). I suppose draco is maybe like the yin or yan of your tropical chart, or some people see it as the soul while tropical is the physical reality and who you are when you interact with others and the world. The strong Gemini presence in my draco chart definitely explains a lot this theme in my life of constantly feeling split off internally and like I am being pulled in two different directions.

posted September 24, 2021 04:46 PM            

I have 1H Pluto (in Scorpio) so Scorpios DO NOT intimidate me - especially the Sun. Suns are more overt and the least mysterious to me when it comes to this energy. Kinda boring, honestly LOL

posted September 24, 2021 06:20 PM            

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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:

“Knowing yourself is the beginning of all knowledge” - Aristotle

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