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plutonianmenace
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posted September 14, 2021 02:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Their weaknesses are listed as being cruel, uncaring, cold, and heartless....

How about emotionally unhinged and prone to having a lot of blind spots that a strategic opponent can expose as a result? Don't get the bias.

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posted September 14, 2021 06:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you're forgetting things like spiteful, manipulative, jealous etc

i think a better question is why you see those things as "unbeatable" when many are self defeating without any external influence being necessary

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posted September 14, 2021 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow - what a stinger of a debate.

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posted September 14, 2021 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What makes them unbeatable, is the Pluto in them, giving them the ability to plot, lay low, and wait for the right time to strike back at you even if it takes them years.

Very few signs are capable of such sustained warfare, in fact, I don't know of any other sign besides perhaps Capp that can do it.

I don't futz with Scorpios. I try to avoid getting in feud with them. Interestingly enough with my Saturn in Scorpio, I have the upper hand and scorpios have never harmed me.

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posted September 14, 2021 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Personal Scorpio dating story:

In my late 20s, I had a intense Scorpio boyfriend, who once hinted at me that if a woman cheated on him or deserted him, he might surgically sever her spinal cord, so that she would be paralyzed and in a wheelchair for the rest of her life.

I don't know if he really meant it or was just trying to frighten me so that I wouldn't cheat or leave him, but I didn't care. That was a red flag to me. i knew I had to get out of this relationship, but how to do it without incurring his scorpionic wrath? I was a budding astrologer and I already knew about scorpios and their vindictive nature.

My Saturn in Scorpio figured it out!
Around him, I started to let myself go. I dressed frumpily, I hardly bathed, I farted, I was lousy and a bore in bed. I wore grandma outfits when we were out together.

It took a couple of months of this act, but he broke up with ME and left ME.

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posted September 14, 2021 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
What makes them unbeatable, is the Pluto in them, giving them the ability to plot, lay low, and wait for the right time to strike back at you even if it takes them years.

Very few signs are capable of such sustained warfare, in fact, I don't know of any other sign besides perhaps Capp that can do it.

I don't futz with Scorpios. I try to avoid getting in feud with them. Interestingly enough with my Saturn in Scorpio, I have the upper hand and scorpios have never harmed me.


I have met so many scorpios, they are softies when it comes down to it, they cut people out and shut down to protect themselves not out of hate, their vindictive nature is often temporary and stays in the realm of fantasy bc they are good people who are compassionate.

plutonianmenace feels threatened by them obviously so he keeps bringing them up, people can get obsessed with Scorpios one way or another and he is obsessed with them, I use to be myself but am not at all any more, but I definitely understand them and continue to feel very comfortable with them whether they are women or men.

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posted September 14, 2021 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
Their weaknesses are listed as being cruel, uncaring, cold, and heartless....

How about emotionally unhinged and prone to having a lot of blind spots that a strategic opponent can expose as a result? Don't get the bias.


Is like you don't understand this sign at all.

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posted September 14, 2021 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AmberMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
Their weaknesses are listed as being cruel, uncaring, cold, and heartless....

How about emotionally unhinged and prone to having a lot of blind spots that a strategic opponent can expose as a result? Don't get the bias.


You want to know what makes me unbeatable? I have been plotting my revenge against a woman for the past 16 years by slowly, steadily and most importantly QUIETLY researching and gathering information/evidence to pay her back 10 fold what she did to me. Let’s just say year 18 is when all hell will break loose for her and she won’t even know what hit her. It’s going to be glorious. We are cruel, uncaring, cold and heartless ONLY IF that’s how you treated us first. Only Scorpios would have the tenacity and patience for a plot like this although I do think Capricorns are a close second (and I have a Capricorn Mars teehee). Low vibrational? Yes, I fully understand that my pain and anger are a blind spot, it’s just that I can’t seem to find it in myself to care.

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posted September 14, 2021 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 93nov     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A lot of y'all clearly have been hurt and/ or stung by one or two Scorpios lol.

I have a Scorpio stellium, conjunct Pluto with Pluto ruling my 7th House. Moon in Libra.

We're not all bad and I can't speak for all Scorpios.. but the few of us who did not let life break us, still have that amazing side everyone hears about.

As far as being "unbeatable"... why are you trying to beat us? What are we "unbeatable" at exactly?

We do have a way of beating people at their own game (if this what you are referring to), meaning, if we feel challenged, you have now volunteered for a silent dual so to speak. All is fair in love and war and you should've left me alone in the first place.

My Libra moon and personal values might be biased.. I know this world is shittier now more than ever.

Scorpios are self-defeating but not in a depressive, the world is ending way, like Pisces? It's kinda hard to verbalize. Like, we might shut ourselves away and cry for a week straight, but don't ever underestimate our bounce back and our strength. That's where so many people go wrong. Also, we love and care for people very deeply although I know it can be very hard to see a lot of the time. Picture the tip of an iceberg and its hidden depths..

This is why a lot of Scorpios get a bad rep, in my opinion. People are always either drawn or repulsed by us and the worst of enemies are the ones in between.

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posted September 14, 2021 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AmberMoon:
You want to know what makes me unbeatable? I have been plotting my revenge against a woman for the past 16 years by slowly, steadily and most importantly QUIETLY researching and gathering information/evidence to pay her back 10 fold what she did to me. Let’s just say year 18 is when all hell will break loose for her and she won’t even know what hit her. It’s going to be glorious. We are cruel, uncaring, cold and heartless ONLY IF that’s how you treated us first. Only Scorpios would have the tenacity and patience for a plot like this although I do think Capricorns are a close second (and I have a Capricorn Mars teehee). Low vibrational? Yes, I fully understand that my pain and anger are a blind spot, it’s just that I can’t seem to find it in myself to care.

WOW you are giving this person so much power over you by plotting revenge for 16 years, that intensity can be put to better use IMO.

Also I know a ton of capricorns and they are perhaps strategic yes socially to climb the latter in career matters but they are super kind people and the vast majority of them would not spend their time plotting revenge, that would be time wasted, they would use their time more constructively.

PLUTO Rules my 11th house and conjuncts my Saturn,there is a reason why I know a lot of capricorns and scorpios.

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posted September 14, 2021 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You want to know what makes me unbeatable? I have been plotting my revenge against a woman for the past 16 years by slowly, steadily and most importantly QUIETLY researching and gathering information/evidence to pay her back 10 fold what she did to me. Let’s just say year 18 is when all hell will break loose for her and she won’t even know what hit her. It’s going to be glorious. We are cruel, uncaring, cold and heartless ONLY IF that’s how you treated us first. Only Scorpios would have the tenacity and patience for a plot like this although I do think Capricorns are a close second (and I have a Capricorn Mars teehee). Low vibrational? Yes, I fully understand that my pain and anger are a blind spot, it’s just that I can’t seem to find it in myself to care.

Yep. That sounds like Scorpio all right... lol
If you hurt them enough, they will give you payback even if it takes them years. That's why I don't futz with them.

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posted September 14, 2021 09:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't go around fu*king with people period, regardless of what sign they are lol. I like for people to stay out of my way and I stay out of people's way.

I am a therapist, I have met a ton of scorpios as a counselor so I've gotten to know them at their most vulnerable and know how they think/are, most of them are not vindictive people but yes let's keep perpetrating this myth.

Also when people try to hurt me it usually doesn't work out for them, karma takes care of it. Almost like if you try to hurt me you end up hurting yourself.

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posted September 14, 2021 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by AmberMoon:
You want to know what makes me unbeatable? I have been plotting my revenge against a woman for the past 16 years by slowly, steadily and most importantly QUIETLY researching and gathering information/evidence to pay her back 10 fold what she did to me. Let’s just say year 18 is when all hell will break loose for her and she won’t even know what hit her. It’s going to be glorious. We are cruel, uncaring, cold and heartless ONLY IF that’s how you treated us first. Only Scorpios would have the tenacity and patience for a plot like this although I do think Capricorns are a close second (and I have a Capricorn Mars teehee). Low vibrational? Yes, I fully understand that my pain and anger are a blind spot, it’s just that I can’t seem to find it in myself to care.

this is like some oldboy type ****

cap mars is severely overrated 🤷‍♀️ and longterm spite and **** like that isn't a positive state to be in maybe the other person will suffer 18 years later but you suffered living in that **** for 18 years before then no one wins lol

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posted September 14, 2021 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I don't go around fu*king with people period, regardless of what sign they are lol. I like for people to stay out of my way and I stay out of people's way.

I am a therapist, I have met a ton of scorpios as a counselor so I've gotten to know them at their most vulnerable and know how they think/are, most of them are not vindictive people but yes let's keep perpetrating this myth.

Also when people try to hurt me it usually doesn't work out for them, karma takes care of it. Almost like if you try to hurt me you end up hurting yourself.


they can be vindictive if they aren't it's balanced elsewhere in the chart and so on

i've known many heavily scorpio influenced people myself and yeah... that's no "myth" it's definitely just part of the territory

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posted September 14, 2021 10:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aries/Mars is action, drive and war, healthy entitlement, initiative, getting started.

Scorpio/Pluto is sex, deep intimacy and lasting connection but its shadow side are extremes, obsessiveness, addictive tendencies but at the other side of it is self mastery. I don't associate Scorpio with war however they are strategic and that strategic mind with a strong Mars can be used to start a war.

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posted September 14, 2021 10:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
this is like some oldboy type ****

cap mars is severely overrated 🤷‍♀️ and longterm spite and **** like that isn't a positive state to be in maybe the other person will suffer 18 years later but you suffered living in that **** for 18 years before then no one wins lol


Exactly! She's suffering for 16 years to execute her revenge which will make her happy for a day and then what?

I suppose if she's plotting a revenge against someone who killed her mother then it might make sense to plot for 16 years but wouldn't it better to kill the Fuc*er right away?

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posted September 15, 2021 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What astrologers? Maren Altman? Only astrology books I’ve read emphasize that there are positive and negative manifestations of every placement.

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posted September 15, 2021 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
Their weaknesses are listed as being cruel, uncaring, cold, and heartless....

How about emotionally unhinged and prone to having a lot of blind spots that a strategic opponent can expose as a result? Don't get the bias.


Aren’t you always trying to make Leo out to be unbeatable? Why do you feel the need to do that?

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posted September 15, 2021 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 93nov:
A lot of y'all clearly have been hurt and/ or stung by one or two Scorpios lol.

I have a Scorpio stellium, conjunct Pluto with Pluto ruling my 7th House. Moon in Libra.

We're not all bad and I can't speak for all Scorpios.. but the few of us who did not let life break us, still have that amazing side everyone hears about.

As far as being "unbeatable"... why are you trying to beat us? What are we "unbeatable" at exactly?

We do have a way of beating people at their own game (if this what you are referring to), meaning, if we feel challenged, you have now volunteered for a silent dual so to speak. All is fair in love and war and you should've left me alone in the first place.

My Libra moon and personal values might be biased.. I know this world is shittier now more than ever.

Scorpios are self-defeating but not in a depressive, the world is ending way, like Pisces? It's kinda hard to verbalize. Like, we might shut ourselves away and cry for a week straight, but don't ever underestimate our bounce back and our strength. That's where so many people go wrong. Also, we love and care for people very deeply although I know it can be very hard to see a lot of the time. Picture the tip of an iceberg and its hidden depths..

This is why a lot of Scorpios get a bad rep, in my opinion. People are always either drawn or repulsed by us and the worst of enemies are the ones in between.


Broken people aren’t usually terrible people.

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posted September 15, 2021 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I don't go around fu*king with people period, regardless of what sign they are lol. I like for people to stay out of my way and I stay out of people's way.

I am a therapist, I have met a ton of scorpios as a counselor so I've gotten to know them at their most vulnerable and know how they think/are, most of them are not vindictive people but yes let's keep perpetrating this myth.

Also when people try to hurt me it usually doesn't work out for them, karma takes care of it. Almost like if you try to hurt me you end up hurting yourself.


I don’t really believe in karma, and don’t wish it on anyone. But if karma does exist, good karma is there, too.

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posted September 15, 2021 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Radium     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My aunt and uncle are both scorpios to the max. I'm a Pisces and I still can't stand them. Some of them are just miserable and cruel just to be ******* cruel.

At least Pisces know how to say screw it. Scorpios don't know how to lose.

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posted September 15, 2021 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People are thinking I am obsessed with a sign when really, I am upset at the biased narrative that I think needs to be silenced. They say Scorpios can beat certain signs because they are plotting, strategic, and supposedly malicious but I disagree. My problem is not who they are but rather how they are presented as this unbeatable force when really, they have countless objective weaknesses which I will get to.

Like just look at any astrology blog which compares them to other signs, it shows them as unforgiving and such but it also makes it out to be that they do not have objective weaknesses that fail to be exploited. I will be listing out those weaknesses very soon.

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posted September 15, 2021 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here are some of the weaknesses of a Scorpio which I think make them ripe for a take down or just to be harmed if push comes to shove.

They are too emotionally compromised to think straight.

Fixed water, water is emotions, they are too fueled by that to actually think straight. I think Scorpios lack the objectiveness that an earth sign might have and are not like air signs where they can detach from emotions. It is fun actually, almost like Oberlyn Martel from Game Of Thrones so upset at what The Mountain did to his sister that he tries to get revenge but leaves a lot of holes in his victory, which gets him killed by The Mountain. That is a Scorpio, they are all bark, no bite.

They leave a lot of blind spots due to being emotionally compromised.

They may have some will power but they leave a lot of openings for you to exploit them. A lot I know have been fired because someone recorded them undercover trying to trash talk another person or brag about cheating on their wives. Needless to say, the downfall was beautiful.

They make a lot of enemies, who come back to bite them.

A Scorpio will make a ton of enemies along the way due to the people they have burned. I have seen someone get one sent to jail after enough evidence because of the people that Scorpio conned. Given the people they burned, everyone laughed and wished them the worst. They make more enemies than they know what to do with and lack that finesse that Libras and air signs have. When it comes to it, those chickens come home to roost.

They are awful at open warfare.

I notice that they operate well when in the shadows but once out in the open, they end up getting pummeled. People can see through a lot of things. They are the scheming coworker which brings me to my next point.

They are effective against people close to them, they are not really formidable opponents at all.

In fact, I'd venture to say that they can hurt their spouse or their children but come someone who is an actual threat? They are cowards. They cannot do well in direct confrontations, they end up getting pummeled hard and fast. If others are on to them, they are ineffective.

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posted September 15, 2021 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
What makes them unbeatable, is the Pluto in them, giving them the ability to plot, lay low, and wait for the right time to strike back at you even if it takes them years.

Very few signs are capable of such sustained warfare, in fact, I don't know of any other sign besides perhaps Capp that can do it.

I don't futz with Scorpios. I try to avoid getting in feud with them. Interestingly enough with my Saturn in Scorpio, I have the upper hand and scorpios have never harmed me.


Such a thing would be a characteristic of Saturn ruled signs like Cap, Aqua, and exalted Libra.

It would not be characteristic of a Scorpio as they are all bark and no bite, too emotional to formulate a good plan.

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posted September 15, 2021 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Radium     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
all women are evil

...yeah i said it....
and thye think it's a good thing. as a pisces male unfamous rockstar I say all men quit having sex! lmao

oh yeah i agree, scorpio is just the female mind at its best .. who wanna fight me thooo

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