posted September 26, 2021 04:09 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I have that too but from the 12th, I have neptune conjunct AC trine VENUS but also trine MARS to be fair.

I was convinced you were NEPTUNIAN too but I imagine you have as well maybe MOON aspecting VENUS and JUPITER.

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What is asteroid AMOR doing in your chart? it might be conjunct your SUN or AC.

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Jupiter conjunct Moon conjunct highly sacred (for me) Vesta.

My Piscean Eros is on my Sun (parallel).

My Valentine is also on my Ascendant and conjuncts my Venus.

When it comes to my being one with the one I love, apart from the above, you will find my chart ruler Pluto sitting on my Moon painting the canvas in eternal passionate colours...

posted September 26, 2021 07:12 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Capricorns are usually nice to everyone, they often have venus in aquarius so they are very intune with group dynamics and want everyone to feel included and welcomed.

Scorpios are usually nice to me so is interesting all these negative experiences you have had with them personally.

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posted September 26, 2021 10:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Maybe you gel well with Scorpios or they don't perceive you as threatening, I don't know. A lot of Scorpio Suns (even ASCs) I know turned out to be very vindictive. Some appear friendly but secretly hate you. I only have one Scorpio Sun friend who's genuinely nice to me but she's very very guarded with people she doesn't know well. It makes socialising difficult. The Scorpio Moons I know are not like this.

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Now you are bringing up another topic when you bring up guardedness and difficulty with socializing, I think yes moon in scorpio and venus in scorpio can be paranoid, guarded, afraid to let others in ect and this can be challenging for them and others to deal with FOR SURE.

I am referring to them being vindictive, I think some uninvolved scorpios can be like that but more often than not they choose to just keep to themselves, go underground and hide and avoid drama and chose to not act on their anger/pain or vindictiveness, they often just stop talking to you or avoid you, often to protect themselves and is an instinctual response, the scorpios that start drama and get all "guetto" I don't feel are the majority of scorpios but yes some of them are like that and you are coming across them.

I gel with them YES and NO, scorpios that are good at communicating I like more, lack of communication feels like playing games and they can play that game alone bc am not interested in that. Communication is so important but I feel their emotions can get in the way of communication for some of them at times and instead they shut down or explode.

I want to be able to talk about anything with someone and not feel they are going to over react to what I am saying by shutting down or exploding or judging bc I am not matching their conditioned/programmed idea of what is "good" or "bad", is just a conversation and having authentic communication means I will say things you don't agree with or want to hear at times but is just a dialogue that can lead to deeper intimacy of you understanding more who I am and were I am coming from and vice versa instead of me or you hiding ourselves so I/you can continue fostering a fantasy of who we want each other to be.

Are we communicating so you can feel good about your views or so I can feel good about my views or are we communicating bc you are genuinely curious to know who I AM without holding expectations of how I should be or how I should think and vice versa?

Honestly my response is less about this thread or you, I am going of on a tangent now LOL I am exploring my frustration with the lack of intimacy and real connection in society as a whole which breaks down to also one on one dynamics. Pluto rules my 11th and tr southnode has entered my 11th house. You have been open about your experiences in this thread and are speaking your truth and I am learning scorpios haven't been nice to you and that is me getting to know you.

posted September 27, 2021 12:03 AM            

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Originally posted by Eternal Energy:

Jupiter conjunct Moon conjunct highly sacred (for me) Vesta.

My Piscean Eros is on my Sun (parallel).

My Valentine is also on my Ascendant and conjuncts my Venus.

When it comes to my being one with the one I love, apart from the above, you will find my chart ruler Pluto sitting on my Moon painting the canvas in eternal passionate colours...

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I think all of that explains it keep being you and sprinkling all that beauty and love everywhere you go, color the whole world with it, put it in a flower essence bottle and give it away to anyone who wants it.

posted September 27, 2021 02:04 AM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Now you are bringing up another topic when you bring up guardedness and difficulty with socializing, I think yes moon in scorpio and venus in scorpio can be paranoid, guarded, afraid to let others in ect and this can be challenging for them and others to deal with FOR SURE.

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That I was referring to my Scorpio Sun friend, not the Scorpio Moon/Venus. The latter ones I know are definitely more sociable. Maybe they just appear to be, I don’t know 🤷🏻‍♀️, but at least they don’t make things awkward, unlike my Scorpio Sun friend who would suddenly decide to miss a gathering or leave halfway just because there are a few unfamiliar faces.

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I am referring to them being vindictive, I think some uninvolved scorpios can be like that but more often than not they choose to just keep to themselves, go underground and hide and avoid drama and chose to not act on their anger/pain or vindictiveness, they often just stop talking to you or avoid you, often to protect themselves and is an instinctual response, the scorpios that start drama and get all "guetto" I don't feel are the majority of scorpios but yes some of them are like that and you are coming across them.

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Why do you think cutting off communication is not being vindictive? Sometimes that’s the most hurtful thing to do. Read what I wrote about my aunts. Our families used to be very close so their sudden coldness was especially hurtful. They even excluded us in family events and communication, bought gifts for all the kids except us… just to make us feel alienated. My brother and I stopped trying to talk to them after a few tries, only my Scorpio Moon older brother kept trying till their walls came down a little, so this makes me conclude that the Moon type is more emotionally mature than the Sun/ASC type.

Also, I remember having misunderstandings with a Scorpio Moon once (a Scorpio ASC pretended to side me but spread sh*t about me to her instead). After some time the Scorpio Moon decided to clarify things with me and we became closer friends after that. She said she observed for some time and didn’t believe what the Scorpio ASC said. If this had happened with a Scorpio Sun/ASC, I would have been blasted off into eternity without a chance to explain (lol), and that was exactly what the Scorpio ASC did. After she realised that the Scorpio Moon and I had reconciled, she spread further lies about me to my bestie and a few other friends, made some distance me, and proceeded to cut me and the Scorpio Moon off.

These experiences, including the others I mentioned, were very hurtful memories because of the lies and damage they caused, and the betrayal I felt… thus I laugh when Scorpios preach about loyalty. They are too full of mistrust to be a truly loyal friend.

My response is nothing against you either but obviously we have different experiences of them so let’s agree to disagree. I’m unfortunate enough to meet so many unevolved ones.

posted September 27, 2021 12:01 PM            

Here is the truth, hate it as much as you want.

Yeah, powerful Scorpios do exist but they embody the Plutonian side of the sign. Plutonian Scorpios are the ones who do tend to be the sages, resilient, and likely to want to change society for the better. Now it is tough for me to argue that this side of Scorpio is powerful.

Yet, the side modern astrology and astrologers are displaying as "powerful" is actually quite weak. The martian side of Scorpio is quite weak and overrated.

Martian Scorpios may scheme behind peoples' back and resort to the pettiness and vengeance. The problem here is that they are not really good at combat and as soon as their cover is blown, they end up mince meat. I notice that air signs can easily detach them and make them look like fools. Fire signs can put them in their place but perhaps the one really good at is a Leo, they tend to go all the way bury these snakes. Earth signs, if they were not compatible with them, can also rip these swine apart.

So for astrology to say how this "vengeful" type of clown is somehow powerful is repulsive and a notion I am willing to go beyond all means to challenge.

George Orwell himself said that the further society goes from the truth, the more it will hate people that speak it.

The truth is, Scorpios are powerful in ways that are misrepresented by modern astrology.

A Scorpio Mars is a relatively weak placement that is quite easy to overwhelm in direct combat. They only succeed when others do not suspect them as enemies. When others are on to them or confront them, they get pummeled easily. Karma catches up with them as a Leo or Aquarius will come across them and tear them apart bit by bit, piece by piece, and make these cowards want to skin themselves alive.

posted September 27, 2021 02:25 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
That I was referring to my Scorpio Sun friend, not the Scorpio Moon/Venus. The latter ones I know are definitely more sociable. Maybe they just appear to be, I don’t know 🤷🏻‍♀️, but at least they don’t make things awkward, unlike my Scorpio Sun friend who would suddenly decide to miss a gathering or leave halfway just because there are a few unfamiliar faces.

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posted September 27, 2021 02:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Why do you think cutting off communication is not being vindictive? Sometimes that’s the most hurtful thing to do. Read what I wrote about my aunts. Our families used to be very close so their sudden coldness was especially hurtful. They even excluded us in family events and communication, bought gifts for all the kids except us… just to make us feel alienated. My brother and I stopped trying to talk to them after a few tries, only my Scorpio Moon older brother kept trying till their walls came down a little, so this makes me conclude that the Moon type is more emotionally mature than the Sun/ASC type.

Also, I remember having misunderstandings with a Scorpio Moon once (a Scorpio ASC pretended to side me but spread sh*t about me to her instead). After some time the Scorpio Moon decided to clarify things with me and we became closer friends after that. She said she observed for some time and didn’t believe what the Scorpio ASC said. If this had happened with a Scorpio Sun/ASC, I would have been blasted off into eternity without a chance to explain (lol), and that was exactly what the Scorpio ASC did. After she realised that the Scorpio Moon and I had reconciled, she spread further lies about me to my bestie and a few other friends, made some distance me, and proceeded to cut me and the Scorpio Moon off.

These experiences, including the others I mentioned, were very hurtful memories because of the lies and damage they caused, and the betrayal I felt… thus I laugh when Scorpios preach about loyalty. They are too full of mistrust to be a truly loyal friend.

My response is nothing against you either but obviously we have different experiences of them so let’s agree to disagree. I’m unfortunate enough to meet so many unevolved ones.

Btw my dad is also a Scorpio but he loves me of course and it’s different because we’re father-daughter relationship. I believe Scorpios are highly protective and caring towards their loved ones, but towards friends/colleagues, I can’t say the same.

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Yes cutting off people is hurtful and can be vindictive but I think often this is NOT motivated by vindictiveness and is just an automatic instinctual response built in for them, when they are hurt they shut down and protect themselves by cutting people off, I feel scorpio is closely connected to our fight or flight response and the flight response can also look like shutting down/freezing or cutting people off. Fight or flight is instinctual and is a coping mechanism that kicks in when we feel in danger, their fight or flight tends to get activated more easily as scorpio rules death and the fight or flight response gets activated to protect us from death and danger. I guess they can be vindictive the un-evolved scorpios but overall I feel they are more motivated by self-preservation than they are by vindictiveness. I would say their moon and mars will give you more information on how their fight or flight will play out when it gets activated.

I think everything you have shared is valid, you can write a book about un-evolved scorpios and how they react to things for sure.

posted September 27, 2021 04:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Eternal Energy:

Let's leave measuring and counting aside for a minute. Can I give you a big, tight, morning (here) hug?...

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posted September 27, 2021 04:24 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I have that too but from the 12th, I have neptune conjunct AC trine VENUS but also trine MARS to be fair.

I was convinced you were NEPTUNIAN too but I imagine you have as well maybe MOON aspecting VENUS and JUPITER.

or

What is asteroid AMOR doing in your chart? it might be conjunct your SUN or AC.

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You are very Neptunian too with Neptune on your ascendant and trine your Venus and Mars, but your no nonsense Virgo placements keep you from drifting away in the etheric Neptunian fog.

I have moon conjunct Venus though in different signs.

Asteroid Amor is not doing anything particular in my chart. It's not conjunct any of my placements. But it's always doing something in my synastries with significant partners.

posted September 27, 2021 06:03 PM            

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Originally posted by plutonianmenace:
Once again, it has little to do with what Scorpios are like, it has everything to do with astrology desperately trying to make them out to be a powerful sign when in fact, they're the opposite in the sense that astrology portrays them as.

Here is the truth, hate it as much as you want.

Yeah, powerful Scorpios do exist but they embody the Plutonian side of the sign. Plutonian Scorpios are the ones who do tend to be the sages, resilient, and likely to want to change society for the better. Now it is tough for me to argue that this side of Scorpio is powerful.

Yet, the side modern astrology and astrologers are displaying as "powerful" is actually quite weak. The martian side of Scorpio is quite weak and overrated.

Martian Scorpios may scheme behind peoples' back and resort to the pettiness and vengeance. The problem here is that they are not really good at combat and as soon as their cover is blown, they end up mince meat. I notice that air signs can easily detach them and make them look like fools. Fire signs can put them in their place but perhaps the one really good at is a Leo, they tend to go all the way bury these snakes. Earth signs, if they were not compatible with them, can also rip these swine apart.

So for astrology to say how this "vengeful" type of clown is somehow powerful is repulsive and a notion I am willing to go beyond all means to challenge.

George Orwell himself said that the further society goes from the truth, the more it will hate people that speak it.

The truth is, Scorpios are powerful in ways that are misrepresented by modern astrology.

A Scorpio Mars is a relatively weak placement that is quite easy to overwhelm in direct combat. They only succeed when others do not suspect them as enemies. When others are on to them or confront them, they get pummeled easily. Karma catches up with them as a Leo or Aquarius will come across them and tear them apart bit by bit, piece by piece, and make these cowards want to skin themselves alive.

It is one of the best parts of life when you see a low vibration Scorpio get eaten alive like an antelope by Hyenas. Thankfully, it happens quite often and its a sight to behold.

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Of course Leo would be the best to do that. Who would even question that?

posted September 27, 2021 11:21 PM            

For one, we already see the countless bogus articles out there parading this sign as the "strongest" and as "formidable" when we all know that this sign is the embodiment of all bark no bite. I mean I am made out to be the bad guy and people are making countless rumors up about me because I just pointed out something that we all know is a really big issue.

We all know that Astrology has a big issue with being heavily biased towards certain signs while being against others. We have seen how astrologers attempt to paint Leos as weak and clownish when the sun is domiciled in the sign and they attempt to paint Aries as unfocused and all bark no bite when the sun is exalted there.

Yet, somehow, a whiney little water sign who is an emotionally unstable crybaby is going to get promoted? I don't care if I lose my life for saying this but I will forever be a slave to the truth. The truth here is that one sign is being falsely promoted as powerful and overhyped while others are being shown as pushovers. It is unfair and I refuse to stand for it no matter what they do to me.

Make up lies about me, attack me on every thread, make up rumors, I do not care. I will fight for the truth and I will not rest until the truth makes its way to the light.

I know, its in a Scorpio's nature to hate the truth, the sign relies on lies and hiding in the shadows to do its work. Yet, the good lord and the divine are righteous and the most overrated sign in all of astrology, period, will be brought to astrological justice.

No, you're not strong because you prey on the helpless, you are a coward who is too scared of a real fight.

No, your mars sign is not powerful, you are just a passive aggressive sissy scared to get his a$$ kicked in a real fight.

No, you are not focused or passionate, you are a crybaby that belongs in a mental health clinic.

Look at this Scorpio who tried to mess with a Taurus!

posted October 07, 2021 01:16 PM            

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