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Xodian
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posted March 15, 2023 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xodian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now we are getting into the good **** !

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Originally posted by Amoranthaniela:
The Anima/Animus relates to our inner or soul life. Not soul as understood in metaphysical terms as something which lives on beyond our physical existence but rather soul as in the inner force that animates us.

Just to expand on this, how Jung defines a "soul" corresponds to a sort of "life plan" or a general idea of which path an individual's self-actualization is heading towards.

The four paths/principles that govern Anima for instance, fall under the categories of:

- Instinctual Action (actions that govern the achievement for basic necessities.)

- Planned Action (action focused on achieving a higher goal than just survival.)

- Communicator or orator (think of a person who uses their platform as a way to convey a message for a higher cause such as a Priest, Political Commentator, etc.)

- The Guide (basically a person who is so in-tune with the Id, ego and Superego that they can not only influence command over their own wants, desires and needs but help others overcome them as well.)

So while defining the aspect of these traits to male individuals might come off a "misogynistic," keep in mind that Jung just used the term "masculine traits" for the mere idea of assigning them a definition. Keep in mind that he argued that traits such as these exist to varying degrees in both men and women; Albeit on a more unconscious level.

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posted March 24, 2023 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries Eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Libra is exalted in the great malefic planet 😁 .. so it's not that soft of a sign.

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posted April 09, 2023 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BakingSoda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would you consider Aries and Leo feminine because they use their heart than their head? Saturn is exalted in libra right? Libra is an air sign right? Libra is a cardinal sign right? All I see in the sign is very obvious Masculinity, Capricorn is understandable cos Mars is exalted there and Saturn is it’s ruler, Virgo I see as a neutral sign because the women are usually so feminine and the men are very masculine.

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posted April 09, 2023 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BakingSoda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SleepyDiary:
Sometimes i don’t understand why certain signs are Masculine and why some are Feminine like these signs. I find Libras really feminine for a Masculine sign and i find Caps and Virgos Masculine for a Feminine sign. Masculine traits to me are people that don’t like to deal with emotions both from themselves and others and feels extremely uncomfortable doing so which is very common among Virgos and Caps esp in those that have Moons in these signs. Brainy types i also find ‘’Masculine’’
Non romantics
‘’Hard’’ types are all really Masculine traits to me which i have seen in these two Signs a lot. I find them similar to the character Red foreman from That 70’s show.

Feminine to me are passiveness, feelers, romantics, subtlety and emotionality. Actually a lot of men with Libra influence have dealt with people finding them too ‘’feminine’’ because they take extra care of their appearance, can be passive peacemakers too and romantic in their nature. They are actually more similar to the character Kitty foreman the wife of Red from the same show.



Because Yang is expressive while Yin is cold, Libra is obviously a masculine sign even the blind can see it, if you don’t like the term masculine used for your sign then why throw another sign under the bus just to prove a point? Like I said earlier, Aries is considered astrology’s most masculine zodiac sign but they’re feelers not thinkers you get!!!!!! Capricorn women I know are very feminine, Virgos are very passive from my experience and take care of their appearance too and can be whiny and effeminate but not for the men, you simply do not have to put other signs in a barrel just to make your sign feel better ok!

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posted May 01, 2023 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@PixieJane

I glanced over some of your recent post. It was rather long and I didn't read it all. May get back to it later. 👍 All I know is that I'm personally not into being a "side chick" although I've been propositioned with that several times. I'm *naturally* more monogamous - what's mine is mine and I belong to him as well. 🫶 That kind of bond does NOT scare me having an 8H Taurus Venus! Okurrr. If you are poly tho, cool. Do you.

Most Women will *always* prefer Masculine Men - no matter how hard they deny their natural instincts. 🤷🏾‍♀️ Masculine Men generally prefer Feminine Women. And Masculine Women often *hate* Feminine Women for that because they want to be desired TOO - that's why they try to recruit us to their "Man Haters" Club. And this is simply nothing but THE TRUTH.

I love me some Thor. 🩷🩷 F--k Loki. Lol! A shirtless Chris Hemsworth is the only reason why I initially tuned into the damn movie to begin with.

You mentioned moms screaming over young Jacob in the "Twilight" movies. And quite frankly... I don't blame them. 🤣 Did you see that dude?! Bella was lame (although an Aries like me stuck between two hotties) and did not deserve him or his amazingness whatsoever. I'd know what to do with that, Mr Jacob. 💋 *blows on nails*

As for Miley?? She's trashy AF. That's why we don't like her. 👌 No double standard.

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posted May 01, 2023 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Who hates men? And why are we still assuming that women are choosing to pit themselves against other women? It's usually the women who claim that we're jealous, who are doing that.

My sister, who was prettier than me, was the one who pitted herself against me. She sold me out for a weak, insecure, cheating man, who loved to see two women fighting because of him. If he had been decent, we wouldn't have been fighting.

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posted May 01, 2023 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now, this is beautiful.

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LovelyAries86
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posted May 02, 2023 01:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Many Women are indeed pitting themselves against other Women and it's so unnecessary. Men aren't forcing them to do this either! Endlessly blaming Men is often a cop-out to avoid taking responsibility for our unsavory actions and the role we play in this Shyt Show.

I get far more hatred from my sisters out here over who I am than I *ever* do from Men. 💯 We are living in an era of excessive Masculinity being pushed onto Women at large and it's damaging. Things are insanely out of balance now and we all know it. I'm NOT in favor of continuing on this fruitless path.

**Just to be completely CLEAR:

Being Feminine does not make you a Doormat.

Femininity is Powerful. And Captivating.

Tomboys are still Women.

Truly Masculine Women are the exceptions. And I have no issue at all with the ones who are organically living in their real truth. 👍

Most Women operating in (primarily) Masculine Energy today are doing so out of survival or wounding - it's inorganic. 🤷🏾‍♀️ Most don't actually *want* to work 60 hours weekly at some Corporate job that drains them, constantly forces them to be tough, keeps them away from their kids, keeps them from finding real love, keeps them from feeling happy or having time for self & sucks EVERY last drop of their innate Femininity out from their soul. 🤔 It's tragic AF.

We need Strong Men in society! So constantly bragging about "not needing" them is not only false but is disrespectful. 💯 Weak, disgraceful, incompetent Males with ZERO integrity have taken over our society and IT SHOWS. It makes my skin crawl at how bad we allowed this to get. Are some Men toxic?? F--k yes!! And we are to treat them like the Trash that they are. 👍 But we need not go around tearing down Masculinity at large, wounding the core of MANY potentially good Men out here. Women can't do these types of things and then cry about Men not cherishing us or loving us to their greatest ability. BOTH SIDES must do their part. 💛

It's a great thing to be able to be self-sufficient as a Woman. 👌 Any Man who tries to take advantage of or abuse you should absolutely be walked away from! However, obsessing over "independence" is an insidious TRAP that will keep you far away from what it is that you truly desire as a Feminine Being deep down. Ladies - please honor the needs of your heart. 🩷

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posted May 02, 2023 04:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
…Ladies - please honor the needs of your heart.

👍I agree 100% with this specifically. And that’s why astrology can be such an amazing tool. You can use your birth chart as a way to find out what it is that you actually need. What brings you joy, what brings personal growth and what type of social needs you have. And your birth chart doesn’t judge you.

You can be a man with all Cancer and Pisces placements, with prominent Venus and Moon, 4th and 7th house dominance or a woman with all Aries and Leo, prominent Mars and Sun, 1st and 10th house dominance. It’s still ok, you are who you are, you need what you need.

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posted May 02, 2023 09:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Amoranthaniela     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
Many Women are indeed pitting themselves against other Women and it's so unnecessary. Men aren't forcing them to do this either! Endlessly blaming Men is often a cop-out to avoid taking responsibility for our unsavory actions and the role we play in this Shyt Show.

I get far more hatred from my sisters out here over who I am than I *ever* do from Men. 💯 We are living in an era of excessive Masculinity being pushed onto Women at large and it's damaging. Things are insanely out of balance now and we all know it. I'm NOT in favor of continuing on this fruitless path.

**Just to be completely CLEAR:

Being Feminine does not make you a Doormat.

Femininity is Powerful. And Captivating.

Tomboys are still Women.

Truly Masculine Women are the exceptions. And I have no issue at all with the ones who are organically living in their real truth. 👍

Most Women operating in (primarily) Masculine Energy today are doing so out of survival or wounding - it's inorganic. 🤷🏾‍♀️ Most don't actually *want* to work 60 hours weekly at some Corporate job that drains them, constantly forces them to be tough, keeps them away from their kids, keeps them from finding real love, keeps them from feeling happy or having time for self & sucks EVERY last drop of their innate Femininity out from their soul. 🤔 It's tragic AF.

We need Strong Men in society! So constantly bragging about "not needing" them is not only false but is disrespectful. 💯 Weak, disgraceful, incompetent Males with ZERO integrity have taken over our society and IT SHOWS. It makes my skin crawl at how bad we allowed this to get. Are some Men toxic?? F--k yes!! And we are to treat them like the Trash that they are. 👍 But we need not go around tearing down Masculinity at large, wounding the core of MANY potentially good Men out here. Women can't do these types of things and then cry about Men not cherishing us or loving us to their greatest ability. BOTH SIDES must do their part. 💛

It's a great thing to be able to be self-sufficient as a Woman. 👌 Any Man who tries to take advantage of or abuse you should absolutely be walked away from! However, obsessing over "independence" is an insidious TRAP that will keep you far away from what it is that you truly desire as a Feminine Being deep down. Ladies - please honor the needs of your heart. 🩷


Oh, yes, glad to see someone who gets it.

I've seen threads here that associate confidence and competence with someone being manly. That's not how that works. They don't even realize that this mindset has been programmed into them from generations of brainwashing.


Femininity is chaos - from which the universe was created.

Masculinity is order, the attempt to comprehend the chaos of the world.

Femininity at its core is not submissive at all, but it is flexible. Think of yang as the trunk and yin is the leaves.

Someone who can bend in any direction is not submissive, but actually wild, and meant to be in tune with nature, all life, and intuition.

Any idea that feminine is a doormat, this is from years of suppression and repression, and thinking of relationships in terms of power dynamics instead of a partnership.

Female is meant to be discernment, judge, and law - the chooser of if the male is good enough for woman, their children, and the future of the planet.


To circumvent this, the collective masculine energetically handcuffed the feminine, so that men have been the judge, the law and the chooser, and women just nodded and smile.

That's not natural, and this paradigm is part of why the world now is in such a mess.

But thankfully, that's all changing, and it's going to keep changing.

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posted May 04, 2023 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries Eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Amoranthaniela:
Oh, yes, glad to see someone who gets it.

I've seen threads here that associate confidence and competence with someone being manly. That's not how that works. They don't even realize that this mindset has been programmed into them from generations of brainwashing.


Femininity is chaos - from which the universe was created.

Masculinity is order, the attempt to comprehend the chaos of the world.

Femininity at its core is not submissive at all, but it is flexible. Think of yang as the trunk and yin is the leaves.

Someone who can bend in any direction is not submissive, but actually wild, and meant to be in tune with nature, all life, and intuition.

Any idea that feminine is a doormat, this is from years of suppression and repression, and thinking of relationships in terms of power dynamics instead of a partnership.

Female is meant to be discernment, judge, and law - the chooser of if the male is good enough for woman, their children, and the future of the planet.


To circumvent this, the collective masculine energetically handcuffed the feminine, so that men have been the judge, the law and the chooser, and women just nodded and smile.


Nice philosophical approach 👌, I really like reading your posts very insightful.

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posted May 04, 2023 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries Eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@LovelyAries86 Well said Aries sister totally agree👍

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posted May 04, 2023 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Amoranthaniela:
Oh, yes, glad to see someone who gets it.

I've seen threads here that associate confidence and competence with someone being manly. That's not how that works. They don't even realize that this mindset has been programmed into them from generations of brainwashing.


Femininity is chaos - from which the universe was created.

Masculinity is order, the attempt to comprehend the chaos of the world.

Femininity at its core is not submissive at all, but it is flexible. Think of yang as the trunk and yin is the leaves.

Someone who can bend in any direction is not submissive, but actually wild, and meant to be in tune with nature, all life, and intuition.

Any idea that feminine is a doormat, this is from years of suppression and repression, and thinking of relationships in terms of power dynamics instead of a partnership.

Female is meant to be discernment, judge, and law - the chooser of if the male is good enough for woman, their children, and the future of the planet.


To circumvent this, the collective masculine energetically handcuffed the feminine, so that men have been the judge, the law and the chooser, and women just nodded and smile.

That's not natural, and this paradigm is part of why the world now is in such a mess.

But thankfully, that's all changing, and it's going to keep changing.


Your example of Trunk VS Leaves was great. 👍 Another awesome one that I read before described the River VS Banks. The Feminine (Woman) is free-flowing, beautiful & untamed just like a River. 🩷 The Masculine (Man) is to provide safety & guidance - just like the Banks to the River. 💛 Her Feminine Energy nourishes his SOUL. His Masculine Energy grounds her SPIRIT.

It's an extraordinary freaking thing when done right!! And most people in Western Society are doing it WRONG these days. Your average woman is obsessed with trying to be as Masculine as possible no matter how miserable it makes her. 🤷🏾‍♀️ She looks down on her own innate Femininity! How can you call yourself a Feminist while hating everything Feminine? Makes absolutely no sense.

Women today may have more money. But they are *lacking* in all of the areas that really count and would bring them real happiness in life. You want Men to do better and be better?? Start by loving who you are FIRST. 💯 Keep your standards & head held HIGH. Stop trying to prove that you are "the same" as them because you are NOT. You are powerful in a way that Men will never be, sis. Do not suppress the Goddess Gifts within you! When you embrace your inherent natural nature... that is when Men bow at your feet and move mountains for you. 🙌 Femininity has a potent healing, hypnotic effect that our nation is STARVING for.

Womankind = Approvers
Mankind = Executioners

The Woman = The Prize & The Queen
The Man = The Winner & The King

Women need to remember who TF they are and stop playing these foolish games.

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posted May 04, 2023 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LovelyAries86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
👍I agree 100% with this specifically. And that’s why astrology can be such an amazing tool. You can use your birth chart as a way to find out what it is that you actually need. What brings you joy, what brings personal growth and what type of social needs you have. And your birth chart doesn’t judge you.

You can be a man with all Cancer and Pisces placements, with prominent Venus and Moon, 4th and 7th house dominance or a woman with all Aries and Leo, prominent Mars and Sun, 1st and 10th house dominance. It’s still ok, you are who you are, you need what you need.


Oh yeah - Astrology is indeed an amazing tool to help us figure ourselves out as individuals. 👍 We all have a variety of needs that we want fulfilled.

I've said this before here, but I'll mention it again. Gender does matter - Astrology does not override Biology and the Exceptions do not make the Rule. A man with a Cancer stellium is *still* a MAN. 💯 He *still* has the same innate desires that most other men do - he just may go about getting things differently than some of his peers.

Same with a woman who has a 10H stellium. She is *still* a WOMAN with many of the same desires as her female peers. 💯 She may be just fine following the lead of a worthy man, but he's going to have to be strong & powerful in his own right in order for her to "surrender" to him. She'd CRUSH a weaker man! So compatibility is truly the key to unlocking the path to fulfillment. 👍 Not role reversal.

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@AriesEagle

Much Love, brother. 💜 Glad it resonated with you.

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@LovelyAries86, thank you for your reply. We have a very different style of communication and we’ve “locked horns” before as a consequence. However, I do see there’s common ground as well.

I don’t like to tell people they’re doing it all wrong, or tell them how to express their femininity or masculinity. I don’t feel that’s up to me. There’s a lot of personal choices that are involved here. However, I do agree that people struggle with low self esteem and that this makes them accept BS from partners and causes them to end up in a situation where they are used. I would love for people to feel like a god/goddess that’s worthy of all the love and good things this world has to offer.

I think that compatibility is something that helps people understand what they need. And that you’re not for everyone. Self esteem helps with that too. You don’t have to throw yourself at anyone just for external validation. You’re better than that.

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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
@LovelyAries86, thank you for your reply. We have a very different style of communication and we’ve “locked horns” before as a consequence. However, I do see there’s common ground as well.

I don’t like to tell people they’re doing it all wrong, or tell them how to express their femininity or masculinity. I don’t feel that’s up to me. There’s a lot of personal choices that are involved here. However, I do agree that people struggle with low self esteem and that this makes them accept BS from partners and causes them to end up in a situation where they are used. I would love for people to feel like a god/goddess that’s worthy of all the love and good things this world has to offer.

I think that compatibility is something that helps people understand what they need. And that you’re not for everyone. Self esteem helps with that too. You don’t have to throw yourself at anyone just for external validation. You’re better than that.


Well said. 👍

Low self-esteem is an epidemic out here. And the root cause of many issues that people are facing today. 💯 NONE of us is everyone's type! And that's totally normal. The answer isn't to chase (or bully) people who don't want you. Seek someone who values you and shares a mutual attraction with you. Do you see how many people hold the toxic belief that one person should have the upper hand while the other gets made a total fool of in relationships?? 😐 That mindset needs to be thrown into the nearest trashcan ASAP!

Too many unhealed, unwise individuals are trying to fill voids from childhood with outside validation. And as I said earlier, they try to recruit as many people as possible to join in on their misery with them. It's highly f**ked up to watch. 🤷🏾‍♀️ And I admit, I have very little patience for this kind of behavior.

In my heart of hearts though... I want the best for those around me. 🩷 I want people (both genders) to be happy. To be sincere. To feel seen. To stop lying to themselves & mistreating each other. 👍 I'm a very direct communicator, but I always have pure intentions. I'm that friend that is like a cold bucket of ice water thrown in your face to wake you from your complacency coma! 🤣 It may have been jarring, but now you are alive and well.

An even better example is this movie scene. Me trying to help people who have clearly overdosed on Stupid. 🤣 Legit!
http://youtu.be/ZOoJoTAXDPk

So you may indeed have a different communication style than I do. And I respect that. 👍 We are here to serve different purposes. I see no need in continuing to *lock horns* about it.
We are who we are.

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