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MysticMelody
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posted September 10, 2009 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
Do not open Valus' threads on vegetarianism or related topics if you don't want to be exposed to potentially offensive or disturbing content! Uranian/Plutonian personality alert!!


There.
Now did I seriously need to say that
or did you already know.

uh huh

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Yin
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posted September 10, 2009 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message

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Valus
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posted September 10, 2009 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Valus     Edit/Delete Message
lol

As I told wheels, "If you continue to post on my threads, I'll assume its because you're taking a sincere interest in the topic and taking responsibility for your part in the discussion". It makes no sense for people to debate me, and then, when I respond, to say, "Man, you just wont let it go", lol. No, I won't. I brought it up, and I'll debate it for as long as I have reasons to respond with, or until I get bored and move on.

I want to thank the people who have voiced their understanding and support; Mystic Melody, Yin, Lucia, woah city, BlueRoamer, SunChild, listenstotrees, and AerialCircus. It seems not everyone thinks I'm insufferable. It seems that some of the people I admire most have more than enough understanding and sympathy for my position to tolerate my views and the passionate conviction of my tone. Thank you all.

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aerialcircus
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posted September 10, 2009 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aerialcircus     Edit/Delete Message
This land is yourrrr land
this land is myyyyy land
for the Uraaaaanians
and the Neptuuunians
for the Venuuuusians
and for the Plutooonians
this land was made
for you and meeeeeeee

see ya'll there (bring your shades and vests)!

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Deux*Antares
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posted September 10, 2009 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deux*Antares     Edit/Delete Message
I am from the you-give-it-energy-the-more-you-focus-on-it school of thought. This is the reason why I have stayed out of the meat thread.

Plus I have learned an important lesson after the money thread.

From here on out I'm choosing my battles...errrr the threads I will respond to.


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No power in society, no hardship in your condition can depress you, keep you down, in knowledge, power, virtue, influence, but by your own consent. -- William Ellery Channing

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MysticMelody
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posted September 10, 2009 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
I say that in jest, but seriously, I stay out of those threads, though I enjoy Steve's posting style immensely. The only animals I currently have the strength to worry about are my 6 year old and myself. You know that song... "I can't save you... I can't even SAVE MYSELF, so just save yourself." I dedicate that to all the souls out there in adorable pork chops-to-be suits. They must have picked that mortal vehicle for SOME reason... and quite possibly to be the fodder through which Valus and others (most less well intentioned) present the lessons humans are meant to learn.

I will continue to do my best to keep my head above water while having respect and reverence for all life, and I assume most of you here at LindaLand will do the same. If a little guilt and shiny piggy eyes help us to open our hearts and gives us the strength to make some changes toward making this world a better place then it is all for the best.

I missed the slaughter pics that Big Brother X kindly burned, I mean censored, for our "protection" and I will neatly sidestep the video link Valus kindly posted for my enlightenment because I already know the ugly Truth I will find. There are MANY ugly truths in this world and it is my place to put my soul force toward bringing enlightenment and change in the area of troubled adolescents. I have compassion for the piggies, but I can't fix the whole world and depressing myself to the point that I can't function at all does not serve the world or the holy life force that flows through All.

I have decided to watch this movie that Valus sent me the link to: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6361872964130308142&hl=en#
because I feel it will be informative without being as explicit as some utube vids that are out there.

"EARTHLINGS is a feature length documentary about humanity's absolute dependence on animals (for pets, food, clothing, entertainment, and scientific research) but also illustrates our complete disrespect for these so-called "non-human providers." The film is narrated by Academy Award nominee Joaquin Phoenix (GLADIATOR) and features music by the critically acclaimed platinum artist Moby ."

I don't own pets for the same reason stated above... I am doing good if I can take care of myself and one other person. When and if The Universe grants me additional strength, I will care for and clean up more of my area with hopes that if we all clean up our own area, we will get the job done.

I was talking to a friend yesterday from work and he mentioned that he had went on a job assignment for castrating sheep and didn't last the day. He said he had to hold their legs while they cried in fear and pain and the farmer cut off their balls (I mean testicles). I asked if they gave them something for the pain and he said no, they gave them a shot of antibiotic so they wouldn't get infected (which protects the farmer's profit) but that was it. I couldn't help but think those farmers could throw a little sleepy med in there so the animals wouldn't be so tortured but some humans are so far removed from their soul that things like that don't even occur to them. They really see animals as so far below them that the torture does not matter. Most of us wouldn't pull the wings off a fly because we know it would be making it suffer but some people will cut the testicles from a sheep with no thought.

One more story Yoda Mel has for you, I do.

I had 6 cats once. Annoying Aquarian Sun/ Leo moon ex-husband brought home four at once (when we already had one rescued from the shelter and one rescued from the side of the road) because he witnessed the farmer crush one with his boot in an off-handed way because it was under his feet and annoying him. Baby kitty was like a mosquito to old farmer. Squish. Of course I couldn't say no... and annoying Aqua ex didn't clean the litter box as promised and I ended up with cat sh.. crap everywhere and learned very quickly I didn't have the patience or will to rescue all of the cute little animals of the world. The problem is, he didn't either or he would have done the work to care for them... he just thought he did.

Moral of the story... much evil in this world, there is. Find your place and be strong and allow others to stand strong in their place. If they aren't doing it right, have some compassion for them as well and send them blessings that they might do better for their chosen cause because God Knows we all need some help cleaning up this cesspool.

*image of farmer who is less evolved than most piggies nonchalantly squishing pretty kitties brains under his boot*

I wonder how to get through to this farmer? Maybe we just have to wait for the dinosaurs to die out and be replaced by more conscious individuals. There are those who are making a difference. I want to be one of those people. I support you, Valus, in your cause. Just make sure you are willing to clean up the kitty poop and not just talk the talk. It is not just about the heart... it is about the hands most of all. There may be some farmers out there who want to give the pain meds but can't afford to do it and need the people with your skills to raise the money to provide this medication for the sheep, for example.
We can all sit around and be idealists and wax philosophical about the changes that must be made in the world but it takes a lot of physical effort to make these changes.

This is what Saturn is teaching me.

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Dervish
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posted September 10, 2009 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dervish     Edit/Delete Message
I'm mainly burned out on Valus's threads right now because they're the same thing over & over. Basically, I'm more bored than offended.

I can't help but be reminded when friends of mine decided to eat at KFC. (I personally never go to KFC on my own, but I'm not going to be ungracious if everyone with me decides to go.) That day PETA was outside with pix of slaughtered chickens. I was mostly bemused, and when I told my friends, "Don't worry, they look a lot tastier once they're done cooking them," they laughed.

But inside I saw only one white person behind the counter and one eating. Everyone else, other than me and the PETA folk (every single one!), was some minority race. Even worse, I was dressed similar to the PETA folk, only cleaner (and I think better color coordinated). I was very impatient to get some chicken to shove in my mouth just to prove that I wasn't "one of the PETA nuts taking a break." And I don't embarrass easily, either.

Which is to say there's a wrong way to confront people which can not only be ineffective but even counterproductive, and they'd chosen the wrong way. Just like Valus does. Though it's Valus's way of expressing himself with words that does his cause more harm than good than the pix, IMO.

But I'll add that I'm not against the more graphic pix being deleted in LL Central as they're allowed on Global Unity. And they're just as appropriate (or not) as pix of aborted fetuses to make a point about how abortion is murder.

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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted September 10, 2009 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
we should just rename the forum PETA central

anybody throws blood on me for wearing leather shoes WILL be getting thier ass kicked.

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Deux*Antares
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posted September 10, 2009 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deux*Antares     Edit/Delete Message
Uhh, can we still post man spam photos?

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woah city
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posted September 10, 2009 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah city     Edit/Delete Message
mystic, well said!

..off to clean my litter box. literally.

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aerialcircus
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posted September 10, 2009 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aerialcircus     Edit/Delete Message
Ohhh, I hope so. Shall I get us started?

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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted September 10, 2009 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
i'd be happy with more pictures of whatever you made for dinner...

but since you insist...THIS should have come with a warning!

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aerialcircus
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posted September 10, 2009 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aerialcircus     Edit/Delete Message
CPN, WHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHY????????

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Deux*Antares
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posted September 10, 2009 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deux*Antares     Edit/Delete Message
Cpn!

That's GROSS, DISGUSTING and OFFENSIVE!

I like it.

I think I'll just eat a PB&J sandwich, because that butt has ruined my appetite. (Just kidding. No offense to people with big butts.)

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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted September 10, 2009 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
i live in the midwest, where naked man twister is quite the thing...(we get bored.)

ok ok i can do better...

better?

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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted September 10, 2009 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
no she didn't!

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Deux*Antares
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posted September 10, 2009 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deux*Antares     Edit/Delete Message
I need enlightenment here. Is that a sausage thing? How do you cook it?

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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted September 10, 2009 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
just stuff it in a bun

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posted September 10, 2009 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deux*Antares     Edit/Delete Message
After grilling or frying?

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posted September 10, 2009 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
actually after drunken night on the town. too greasy unless soaked up by a liqured up tummy. combined with fancy dijon mustard and repeated belching.

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posted September 10, 2009 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
for some reason i keep scolling up to the skid mark twister king...i think i even grossed myself out with that one...good job kiddo.

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posted September 10, 2009 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deux*Antares     Edit/Delete Message
If that twister thing has lots of garlic I can now imagine the belching scene.

Skid mark? Oh, now I see it.

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MysticMelody
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posted September 10, 2009 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks, Whoa.

Dervish, I've been thinking a lot lately about how we treat human minorities lately too. I have been working at back breaking temp jobs where we work 3 to 3 1/2 hours with no break, then get a half hour unpaid lunch break and then work 3 or 3 1/2 more hours with no break. I always thought the law in Illinois was a 15 min break every two hours and a half hour lunch if you work more than 4 hours, then another 15 min break if you work 2 hours after lunch etc. I always just took that for granted and was really surprised they were able to work us for 3 1/2 hours of hard labor with no break. I for once understood the position minorities are in first hand as I also could not speak up for fear of losing the much needed work and the measly $45 a day for the 6 1/2 hours.
I thought about how many minorities were working there with me (and work there ALL THE TIME) and how many more do the horrible jobs no one wants to do for the pay no one is willing to accept unless they are desperate due to criminal records or sad circumstances like my own of late.

I was working in a concert stadium after an event (the circus this time) sweeping and mopping each and every row (and walking down and back up the flights of stairs to re-dip/rinse the mop after EACH ROW) after picking up after those who clearly think it is their privilege to throw their food, drinks, and trash on the floor. After all, they paid for the ticket, right? Why not be a pig? I personally think they should all be made into pork chops. And their children who they are training to be just like them should be made into little veal cutlets.

I also think they should be castrated to avoid more reproduction. With no pain medication. Anyone who has enough money to buy $5 drinks and $10 tubs of popcorn etc that they just throw on the floor also should be kept in captivity and milked or something. Put them to some sort of use.

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posted September 10, 2009 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
that does suck mel...I hope you find something better soon.

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lechien
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posted September 10, 2009 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message
but cpn... what's that "kitchen utensil" for? seriously to just keep one sausage floating until someone takes it off and eat it? what's the point...?

i guess this is how you should prepare it once it's off the "rack".

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