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Topic: A few questions concerning the GODZALA threads..
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T
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posted November 01, 2009 05:09 PM
 
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It appears to want some attention, so you start a GODZALA thread........... Why not choose a great topic to discuss, something important.
This is important to some members here koi. No need to get angry about that or take offense to it. It could be dealt with in an easier way. quote:
As you can see, T. It's not a nice energy when people get personal.You get personal with me, and I may do the same. I'll blame it on my Pluto/Uranus/Venus stellium which is square Moon and opposite Saturn.
So, youre going to threaten me now? That doesnt scare me koi. Why not bring it to a higher level seeing as you all are so lighthearted and enlightened, it shouldnt be hard? Is there any way we can come to a resolution here? It's been brought up before and the posters who have brought it up get shat on. So do you think we could change that and work this out? IP: Logged |
koiflower
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posted November 01, 2009 05:12 PM
You are a joke with your cuttung and pasting. off to work now..
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T
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posted November 01, 2009 05:15 PM
SunChild, thanks for sticking your nose out there and sharing your true thoughts. I know many people are staying away from this one. And I though we've never spoken privately about this before, I feel very similarly to you. I wont harp on it now. You expressed your thoughts very eloquently. Thanks for that.  IP: Logged |
shura
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posted November 01, 2009 05:15 PM
I wandered accidentally into a GODZALA thread once. Naturally, I assumed the topic concerned Zala's demi-goddess like stature, and, being a firm believer in such, I opened the thread with a happily expectant heart. Boy, was I wrong.  quote:
Although we have an option to ignore them, the real problem is the affect it's having toward the real spirit of Lindaland. It's the principle. There are other websites that can host this kind of thing. I don't think it's appropriate for LL to be flooded like this. I also have noticed a child like rebellion against the seriousness of certain subjects in LL, which really should remain sacred.
This is important. I think it cuts to the heart of the matter. T and sunchild will remember times in the past when some thought LL may have slipped off track into the dreaded land of *gasp* inappropriate behavior. Remember the sex magic thread? And I can't think of the poster's name, but the young girl starting threads about oral sex? A few old time members eventually posted their concerns, reminded everyone of LL's purpose and everything died down. There have been quite a few times this happened, if you stop and think about it. It comes and goes.
I admit I have noticed a slow but steady decline in what we might think of as 'spiritual' interest at LL. It's certainly lost its innocence. I don't think that much is debatable.
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Valus's monotonously predictable attempts to spread controversy/enlightenment, depending on his mood, annoy the **** out of me but you don't see me trying to curb him do you?
In fairness, valus (and I've had countless nasty run-ins with valus over the years) presents, almost exclusively, topics of a philosophical and/or esoteric bent. Appropriate given the stated nature of the site, yes? Personally, I would rather have an ugly argument with valus about Nietzsche, the kabbalah or free will vs determinism than read a dozen pages full of silly jokes about Gerard Butler's diick . But that's just me.  quote:
Without Godzala, LL can be a little like a stagnant river.
 If this is true, Randall needs to close up shop. IP: Logged |
T
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posted November 01, 2009 05:20 PM
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Oh, it just struck me...
You're JEALOUS!!!(my opinion)
Of what, pray tell? IP: Logged |
T
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posted November 01, 2009 05:21 PM
koi, there were some other things i didnt copy/paste that i would like to...and like to respond to, but i'm not going to bother now. Maybe we can quickly get to a resolution instead.IP: Logged |
shura
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posted November 01, 2009 05:22 PM
So what I am about to say ~ (I expect to not be understood though by some) it's something I have noticed long ago, which made me consider leaving this place, I know it's hard to imagine spirit energy inhabiting an internet forum, but it does because I felt it, and I know for a fact that the energetic inprint of Linda has gone, I know when that happened (details are not important), although I think it can return, I just KNOW this place has CHANGED.
Not that change is wrong or bad, it's a fact of life, life is flux, it's fair, but like T, and some others, feel a tremendous shift here.yes, yes, yes IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel
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posted November 01, 2009 05:30 PM
There's one thing I do want to add here - on the subject of "obnoxious".Valus - who creates these self-serving posts in order to create controversy and then departs letting everyone else slog it out. Way to go! Controversy for it's own sake! Yeah! Woohoo! Take the Congrats On Not Having Kids thread. If you don't want to have kids, I can understand that, it's not for everyone, but there are other ways of stating that. Congratulating people for it? The people who have lost children, are unable to conceive and are desperate to, and/or are unable to afford adoption or proceed with it because of other rules and regulations thank you for your enlightening brand of (in)sensitivity.  Are these self-prophesising threads controversial? Well, they're aimed to be. Are they offensive? No, they're too funny in their irony of arrogance. Are they obnoxious? It's PeaceAngel's brand of obnoxious. Godzala obnoxious in comparison? I don't think so. Godzala doesn't drop bombs for the purpose of watching other people fight. I would tell Valus to stick that up his peace pipe, but chances are he's already smoked it. That was pretty funny, actually. It's never the intention of the Godzala threads to be malicious. Same can't be said about other threads and members. Actually, Godzala is about fun and spreading joy and cheer. IP: Logged |
Azalaksh
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posted November 01, 2009 05:38 PM
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Naturally, I assumed the topic concerned Zala's demi-goddess like stature...
LOL shura
Quite flattering, but lightyears from the truth.
But, what *is* Truth??  Perhaps someone might solicit Randall's thoughts and direction on this matter?? And perhaps suggesting that the Godzalians go to some other forum or start their own may not be a good idea..... another troupe who did that certainly caugtht a lot of sh!t and thousands of posts here when *they* did just that  It's true that the tone or "spirituality" of LL has changed over the years..... but perhaps there are more suggestions on what we *do* about times changing and how to preserve the former zeitgeist?? About exactly how to retain what was, and still maintain the energy level brought in by new people with new thoughts?? IP: Logged |
T
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posted November 01, 2009 05:45 PM
Shura, Bingo.I'd copy/paste everything you said, but it might send koiflower over the edge. ( i know you have a sense of humor koi ) IP: Logged |
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posted November 01, 2009 05:45 PM
So what I am about to say ~ (I expect to not be understood though by some) it's something I have noticed long ago, which made me consider leaving this place, I know it's hard to imagine spirit energy inhabiting an internet forum, but it does because I felt it, and I know for a fact that the energetic inprint of Linda has gone, I know when that happened (details are not important), although I think it can return, I just KNOW this place has CHANGED.
Not that change is wrong or bad, it's a fact of life, life is flux, it's fair, but like T, and some others, feel a tremendous shift here.yes, yes, yes and another yes.
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Xodian
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posted November 01, 2009 05:46 PM
Oh boy... I find it really ironic that the given context of the thread was never personal to begin with until the reasonless counter-argument came up about this thread having a personal focus.T, I personally commend you for being so formal and respectful. Its a rare thing these days; Especially on General Banter related forums. Something tells me you have had ample experience with forums and have developed a thick skin to shield you from personal attacks Lol! Colour me impressed though . And people, I hate repeating myself but I think it needs to be said again; No one is asking for a COMPLETE BAN on Godzala related threads. All I am asking is that you curb the NUMBER of Godzala threads down. Most forums usually have only one general chat thread and you are only allowed to create a new GC thread after the old one reaches 100 pages and is locked. This procedure is usually kept in place so that kids don't spam a forum up Lol! Now I was hoping that since we have so many adults in our midst in this forum, people would have moderated themselves and kept the number of GC threads down on their own out of general curtosy for other members of the forum. Seems like that's a bit too much to ask and I am really disappointed in the behavior certain people have shown out of irrational discontent. This community is like a neighbourhood. You are allowed to listen to your own brand of Rock in the confines of your own home but I hope you respect your neighbours enough to keep the noise level down Lol! Creating multiple threads on the same topic is nuisance in both action and in legal terms since you are robbing other members the right to enjoy the forum. Since people brought up Valus' actions as a counter-example, may I remind you all that he was slapped on the hand by me for going overboard with his Vegan topic threads and is now being closely monitored. I gave him the same leeway as the rest of you before comming down hard on him. I will do the same with everyone else. Once again, all I am asking is that you curb the number of Godzala threads down. IP: Logged |
DD
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posted November 01, 2009 05:48 PM
The only thing constant is change, and I think that is true for the "spirit" of a website, too.Some may be sad for what has been lost; some may welcome the new. And seriously, I don`t believe for a second that EVERYTHING from a few years ago has been only positive, and neither do I believe that everything today is being only negative. It will be a mixture, depending on the people participating.
Of course if people leave and new people arrive, the athmosphere will change, as those people are of course different. IP: Logged |
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posted November 01, 2009 05:49 PM
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Perhaps someone might solicit Randall's thoughts and direction on this matter??
I did last night. Got my response. Also, i'm not sure, but i'm guessing a lot of people have emailed him about this. I'd be curious to find out. IP: Logged |
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posted November 01, 2009 05:50 PM
and out of all the weirdness and arguments that have gone on over the years, i think that was the first time i've mailed him about something like this. havent ever mailed a Mod with complaints either.IP: Logged |
shura
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posted November 01, 2009 05:53 PM
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And perhaps suggesting that the Godzalians go to some other forum or start their own may not be a good idea..... another troupe who did that certainly caugtht a lot of sh!t and thousands of posts here when *they* did just that
ahhh good times, eh? seriously though .... i wouldn't mind. as long as no one calls it 'lindaland east' or threatens to rape me. Somebody wake up Randall .... IP: Logged |
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posted November 01, 2009 06:00 PM
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T, I personally commend you for being so formal and respectful. Its a rare thing these days; Especially on General Banter related forums. Something tells me you have had ample experience with forums and have developed a thick skin to shield you from personal attacks Lol! Colour me impressed though
THANK YOU, Sir! No, this is the only forum i've every really belonged to. I've joined others but havent stuck with them. This place can really help one grow! I know it's been of great help to me anyway. I'm one of the enlightened ones, can't you tell? KIDDING IP: Logged |
DD
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posted November 01, 2009 06:00 PM
I can actually understand the wish to not see several Godzala threads at the top of a page by some Knowflakes.But I donīt think the Godzala threads are the only ones "flooding the forum" like this. And what about the threads in astro 2, who have about ZERO to do with astrology?
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T
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posted November 01, 2009 06:01 PM
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And people, I hate repeating myself but I think it needs to be said again;
I'll repeat you then. quote:
No one is asking for a COMPLETE BAN on Godzala related threads. All I am asking is that you curb the NUMBER of Godzala threads down. Most forums usually have only one general chat thread and you are only allowed to create a new GC thread after the old one reaches 100 pages and is locked. This procedure is usually kept in place so that kids don't spam a forum up Lol! Now I was hoping that since we have so many adults in our midst in this forum, people would have moderated themselves and kept the number of GC threads down on their own out of general curtosy for other members of the forum. Seems like that's a bit too much to ask and I am really disappointed in the behavior certain people have shown out of irrational discontent.This community is like a neighbourhood. You are allowed to listen to your own brand of Rock in the confines of your own home but I hope you respect your neighbours enough to keep the noise level down Lol! Creating multiple threads on the same topic is nuisance in both action and in legal terms since you are robbing other members the right to enjoy the forum. Since people brought up Valus' actions as a counter-example, may I remind you all that he was slapped on the hand by me for going overboard with his Vegan topic threads and is now being closely monitored. I gave him the same leeway as the rest of you before comming down hard on him. I will do the same with everyone else. Once again, all I am asking is that you curb the number of Godzala threads down.
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posted November 01, 2009 06:06 PM
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And what about the threads in astro 2, who have about ZERO to do with astrology?
Sorry, i dont know about those. I dont visit that forum much anymore. Something I notice about the astro forums here though is that they often attract a lot of young people who are just beginning to learn. I was one of those once too. There are astrology forums out there with stricter rules for the more serious astrologer though. When I pop in there, I dont notice too many threads unrelated to Astrology...? IP: Logged |
DD
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posted November 01, 2009 06:23 PM
T,they are there, now and then. But those don`t even bug me the most. And donīt get me wrong, I am not talking against newbies, not at all.
Maybe, but that is offtopic now, what bugs me most is that I often get the feeling that people just want a shortcut or lengthy interpretation, but don`t really want to "understand" astrology and get impatient if people don`t "serve" them instantly.
But as I said, that is offtopic now. Another thing that has been bugging me were some users who posted one thread after the other. So it was not the same title reappearing here at the top of the page, but the same name for half a page.
But I was thinking that his is a free forum, and everyone has the right to start threads with subjects as they wanted; the forum isn`t only for me and my taste. And I just wanted to say that the rules must be the same for everyone.
I am not saying that it hasn`t been that way, and Xodian has made it clear, too, but I just wanted to mention it again. But now I have a serious question:
What bugs you so much about the Godzala threads? IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
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posted November 01, 2009 06:59 PM
I'm with DD on the issue of "change." Of course things evolve, but I would have to say it's far more peaceful now than it used to be, and that's the result of a lot of us old timers having been through so much stuff.I don't have a problem with Godzala, except for the fact that I don't often have a much to say in them. Those threads give me something to read on the train if there's nothing else going on at LL. If we compared it to a tv show, it wouldn't necessarily be the most high brow entertainment, but it's got it's moments of heart. I think I understand the defensiveness, too. If you were told to cut back on one of the ways you connect with people in your free time, you might get a little upset, too. And what if they weren't all titled "Godzala," how would you distinguish the type of threads that you're talking about? It would almost have to be personal. Having the "Godzala" name seems almost beneficial in this respect; at least you know for certain which threads you won't like. In conclusion, I'm cool with Godzala. I'm cool with only having a Godzala thread or two at a time. I really don't mind much either way. If the spirit of Godzala is curbed, it probably will be to the detriment of the site, which already suffers bouts of boringness. If people are conditioned into being more conservative (whilst not being considered generally offensive in the first place), I think that's a shame really. IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel
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posted November 01, 2009 07:17 PM
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Once again, all I am asking is that you curb the number of Godzala threads down.
Heard and answered Xodian. The only thing is, which one is the current one? This one? Oh, I don't know. Actually, maybe you could choose, X-man. You choose one. And lock the rest. How's that?  IP: Logged |
SunChild
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posted November 01, 2009 07:21 PM
Thanks T, (likewise!) & Shura, much Love to you both IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel
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posted November 01, 2009 07:23 PM
XodianThe slapping reference did not go unnoticed, by the way. I sense an invitation coming on. I think that's more along Spanky's lines, though. Didn't mean to tread on any toes. IP: Logged |
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