posted December 31, 2009 04:28 AM         

The soul is a result of the harmony achieved between the sensations of the body and the feelings inspired by the subconscious mind. In order for this balance to be accomplished within the conscious mind the truth must be discerned from the sensation and the feelings so that the two can be combined into one holistic view. This perception is that of the "Third Eye" which is the eye of the Soul. This is what allows us to SEE meaning and purpose, giving us insight into eternity. The is the goal of consciousness.

Pop Culture and entertainment work against this process. How so?

• 1. Reality itself is built on the law of Cause and Effect. The more sophisticated one's understanding of causality, the more profound their understanding of reality. Pop culture and entertainment distort our understanding of Cause and Effect so that our beliefs are inconsistent with reality. When this occurs we are unable to discern the truth from our sensations and are not capable of any degree of soul construction or development.

• 2. Pop culture and entertainment encourage us to portray characters in order to fit into some preconceived social role that the culture values. These roles are inconsistent with our innate designs and so to perform these characters successfully we must disconnect or disassociate our consciousness minds from the calling and interests of our own design. In so doing, we learn to live in denial of the information that compels us subconsciously leaving us unable to discern the truth from it. This makes soul development impossible.

What does all this mean?

• It means that if we allow ourselves to be consumed by pop culture and entertainment we will remain soulless.

• If we have a soul but then become consumed by pop culture, we will lose it.

• Those who are obsessed with becoming rich or famous will willing give up their soul, or sell it, in exchange for material possessions and they do this because they do not know the value of the soul.

Pop culture is really just a facet of capitalism designed to sell products. In their advertisements they send a message that you are worthless or have no value intrinsically, but if you buy what they are selling, you'll add value to yourself. It is not in the interest of pop culture, entertainment or capitalism for a human being to develop soul and discover h/her essential worth. When this does happen with someone, the reverse happens and pop culture, along with the entertainment and products, become worthless to the individual. In this way one overcomes the world. It was Jesus who asked "What does a man profit if he gains the whole world, but forfeits his soul?" The answer... Nothing! nothing real or eternal anyway.

In closing I just want to say to everyone, do all that you can to build your lives, your relationships, your hopes, dreams and happiness on the values of the soul and never be distracted by the values of the world.

posted December 31, 2009 10:28 AM         

Hmmm we can discuss about natal placements that might influence more a person,to be caught up in societie´s norms and values?

and compare to other charts where we know that the specific person was more inclined torwards spiritual achivement/enlightment.

posted December 31, 2009 10:36 AM         

I think these might be related to neptune (fantasy) vs saturn (reality)

All day i read magazines and watch music video clips. Im far from reality.

posted December 31, 2009 10:53 AM         

well im always far from reality,i dont need a transit hihihihi

But the most important thing is asking yourself if you´re happy and fulfilled.if the answer is yes,then i consider it to be a good thing.

there is a huge diference from illusion vs idealism.

i condiser myself an idealist that always steers for the spiritual side of life.if that is considered to be an illusion by other,or by society,then i dont mind.

i found out too many times that when we´re striving for other´s approval we are infact,going away from our own Essence,and the discovering of our own Self.

posted December 31, 2009 11:42 AM         

Another thing i tend to do is believe everything is perfect when its far from it! I refuse to accept anything ugly into my delicate mind. This meant also i dragged on a 10yr relationship believing that was perfect too. I have neptune trine venus natally, the trine cant be that great then. Honestly i sometimes think i shouldve been born a libra like my dad. I get all these unrealistic traits from him, i dont go to funerals because i dont want to upset myself cause it can devastate me for weeks and really scare me, that could be chiron in 8th. I feel if i dont use neptune to cover every teeny tiny thing in life i could become depressed and anxious. I believe heaven is on earth and that breathing, seeing , smelling, hearing etc is amazing and a blessing, its great to experience life, love, animals, people, laughing , crying these are all a great experience. To most people i explain this to think im smoking funny stuff haha. But i dont smoke and i respect my body and would never damage my most important vehicle in life.

Back to the topic i have venus in leo and that hollywood lifestyle appeals to me. Maybe its ruled by leo... Entertainment.

posted December 31, 2009 12:03 PM         

"The most beautiful thing about astrology is that it gives us an objective view of one's individual human design, the Self. It shows us the truth about our temperament, our interest, our desires etc. This is the information that one needs to have in order to develop soul and attune one's self to a higher order through elevated levels of conscious awareness. The development and advancement of soul is the key to enlightenment, which frees the human potential."

posted December 31, 2009 02:30 PM         

Not only is pop-culture a distraction to real enlightenment but society as a whole. I mean the way that some things are meant to be are so black and white and where is the in between?

This capitalist world emphasizes money and well if you don't have it, your screwed or you work your life away.

Which is something to consider as well as far as how enlightened you can become.

I know from my own experience I've always had a lot of time to myself to meditate and focus of my goals, but if you have a job and work constantly there isn't any time to stop and reflect, which is the biggest problem with the way that this society is set up. Total distraction from ever fulfilling your unconscious wants and needs.

If we look at the outer planets and sign placements this can give better clues as to the overall trend of how society shapes up.

Uranus in Pisces has re-surfaced a mental enlightenment that was far more obvious in the emergence of technology during Uranus in Aquarius. New and expansive ideas have been far more mental and technology based again with Jupiter in Aquarius.

I'm looking forward to Jupiter in Pisces, Pisces in traditional rulership was ruled by Jupiter, which has always made me realize how similar Sagittarius and Pisces can be.

But I have to say that I am specifically looking forward to the new enlightenment that I hope to achieve when T. Jupiter in Pisces conjuncts my natal moon in the third house.

posted December 31, 2009 02:39 PM         

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and the problem is...pop-culture is a HUGE category within which there is much that has probably led you to understand that you HAVE (or ARE) a soul in the first place. i personally worked within pop culture (music) to point out to people how many inconsistencies and ironies there are in a generalized worldview, the accepted "norms", etc...

posted December 31, 2009 06:27 PM         

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Vertiver - Ok Katatonic, you're being very socratic, maybe pop culture wasn't being specific enough, what I'm talking about is the brain numbing media, for example TV and commercials and advertising and the hold they have on us. Maybe I'll just stick to astrology if I can't even state something non astrology related without criticism.

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What I have learned from this site is that it is just best to ignore certain comments that attempt to draw you into some unnecessary verbal sparring. Continue to speak your thoughts Vertiver. As I said in another post, I encourage all to speak up without the fear of criticism so that we can better conform our ideas and beliefs to "The Truth" and not to "The Group" In this way we can all walk away having learned something new that we can use to increase our awareness.

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What's the matter with your life
Is the poverty bringing U down?
Is the mailman jerking U 'round?
Did he put your million dollar check
In someone else's box?

Tell me, what's the matter with your world
Was it a boy when U wanted a girl? (Boy when u wanted a girl)
Don't U know straight hair ain't got no curl (No curl)
Life it ain't real funky
Unless it's got that pop
Dig it

Pop life
Everybody needs a thrill
Pop life
We all got a space 2 fill
Pop life
Everybody can't be on top
But life it ain't real funky
Unless it's got that pop
Dig it

Tell me, what's that underneath your hair?
Is there anybody living there? (Anybody living there)
U can't get over, if U say U just don't care (Don't care)
Show me a boy who stays in school
And I'll show U a boy aware!
Dig it

Pop life
Everybody needs a thrill
Pop life
We all got a space 2 fill
Pop life
Everybody can't be on top
But life it ain't real funky
Unless it's got that pop
Dig it

What U putting in your nose?
Is that where all your money goes
(Is that where your money goes)
The river of addiction flows
U think it's hot, but there won't be no water
When the fire blows
Dig it

Pop life
Everybody needs a thrill
Pop life
We all got a space 2 fill
Pop life
Everybody wants to be on top
But life it ain't real funky
Unless it's got that pop
Dig it

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posted December 31, 2009 08:57 PM         

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Of course, everything in moderation.

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Initially, who said this and in what context did they mean it?

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an escape from reality from time to time.

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This site makes me very sad. What good is an escape from reality when the objective of consciousness is to master it. Maybe what you mean is that people need an escape from the stress of the daily grind so that they CAN focus on deeper aspects of reality? I agree with that, but the escape should be "To Reality" not from it into the fantasies of entertainment. A belief in such makes reality that much harder to master and this is counterproductive.

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TV is a lil bit better then say...um smokin' crack for example?

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Yeah, but just a little bit and with the price of cable these days, I dunno, I'd say they break about even. Both Work to cloud and confuse your thinking. In fact, more people are affected by T.V. than crack so, I think as to which of these is actually worse would be a fair debate.

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f you are spirtually evovled you will know what is just purely bullcrap and what is truth.

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Exactly! Which is why I am shocked that we are even having this discussion. You mentioned CRACK before. If I told a crack-head to stop smoking h/she would have a multitude of reasons used to justify and rationalize their behavior and choices. It is said that a fools ways seem right to him. You can't argue that something is Right just because YOU like it.

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The media is not all a lie.

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Everything on television follows a script and is pre-planned. That's not Real, that is Contrived. Those who fail to realize this feel themselves and their own lives to be inadequate when neither of them match up with what they see on television. Sometimes they even destroy a good thing just so they can be like their favorite characters on T.V. That's insanity GypseeWind. I hope you aren't guilty of this.

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So what if we enjoy hearing about happens in Hollywood, as long as YOU don't base your life on that.

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