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DiandraReborn25
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posted December 31, 2009 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
im currently with someone who is my SoulMate.

not twin..and ii woulndt choose it to be any other way.

i undersntadn when you say that a twin relationship is all about a Higher Purpose,a selfless love,,an unconditional deliver of ourselves into the relationship.i consider it to be the highest stage on our encarnation cycle.

it is my belief that we only meet that soul,in the material plane,when we are on our last reincarnation,it is when we have already passed through all,through all we had to,in order to reach that level,of enlightement. then...it will be not based on the "romantic" love.

ive asked myself many times if,when we re meeting the twin,we re in fact,feeling what is Godīs conection itself. it is said that the twin is our other half of our own soul,so if we blend with our other half,arent we really blending with the Original/Universal Energy?

but talking again of the current relationship im having:

it is my belief that with this person im with,it is with him that im also learning the concept of Love.i wouldnt discriminate a relationship only cause it is not with mt Twin for example.

it is your belief Polo,that there is no SM relationship with the knowledge of Self,but it is my belief that,without the knowledge of self,i couldnt be having this relationship in my life.

we met when i was opening myself to Love,and when i was beginning to know myself,without anting otherīs validation.specially of society. i came to the conclusion then,that what i really needed first,was to love myself.find myself.and only then,i would be able to love another.to attract someone compatible with my own soul frequency.

we met through enourmous synchros,each one seemed like cronometred to the minute..this says to me that our meeting was not random.and we choosed this to happen at the right moment in our lives.

this is also about service to a higher purpose:We are our own purpose,he and I.
what we can choose that is of service to the world,is sharing this discovering together,with Love,light,and faith.and respect.

what can be more of importance,than contributing to spread Love?it is still a soul conection.not necessarily inferior to the twin,but something that our Soul chosed,before reincarnating.it is part of our own Path.

Resuming..to me without God in the equation,no relationship ( wether Twin or not) cannot be fully understood in its Essence.

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Lara
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posted December 31, 2009 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Gemini rising

it's libra opp my Aries I find hard. Libras indecisiveness drives my powerhouse stellium NUTS!

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amowls*
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posted December 31, 2009 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
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I am new here, but are most of the people here FEMALE? If so, then that would explain it. The duties of men and women are different and one may have some difficulty in understanding the importance of the other. That's not an insult, so do not read it that way. As a man, what I am required to do is different than what you need to do in life, so we will have different concerns.

What a load of horsesh*t.

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Polo C
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posted December 31, 2009 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message
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StarrofVenusGirl
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posted December 31, 2009 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
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Gemini rising

I thought you were Aqua rising Lara? I read a thread on here not too long ago about the chart rectification process you went through to determine you were Aqua rising because of how that melded with your children and ex's charts and described your traits. You sounded VERY sure so how did you now determine you are Gemini ASC?

I've missed a lot of this thread, but it's fascinating and chock full of good info--I'll have to go back and catch up.

One thing you can't say about Polo is that he doesn't provoke lively discussion I'm so thrilled to have another man around here I could do somersaults LOL.

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posted January 01, 2010 07:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
Moving this thread to LLC2 because of it's varied, but non-astro related, content.

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oneruledbymars
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posted January 01, 2010 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message
IQ, awesome discription of the Astral and Hyperspace brotha!

Polo C:


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Exactly. This isn't the first time I have been in discussion or debate concerning these topics. In the past they have been debunked as people simply having an overactive imagination and an unhealthy desire to believe in something to make their lives feel... more meaningful.

Words mean nothing without a basis in reality. Words are symbols. Symbols are substitutes for actual things that exist in reality. If the words do not act as symbols for reality, then the words do not indicate anything REAL. I don't know about you all, but I don't enjoy being lied to. The truth sets us free, not the lies."

Its true that the truth sets us free. But its Wisdom that is Power, not knowledge. In accessing the Astral Realms and Hyperspace there isnt a need to make ones life meaningful, its a quest for Knowledge and Wisdom, the height and breath of which exist in us if we just dig for it. Unfortunately Truth has been hid from us and exist all around us in the tangled Matrix of disinformation. So I find that going within for answers is the most effective way. Right now in this moment you know all you need to know and you need no outside sources opinion. Its just that most people dont believe that.


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Astral Travel: The people who I know in real life who claim to be able to do this are not the most credible individuals that I know. They believe in all sorts of things that are proven as false, yet they choose to believe them anyway. Why? Because these beliefs make them feel "Special!" For them, the truth is irrelevant, which means, for me, their beliefs are irrelevant"

In any given number of people bound by a similiar belief, a belief in Astral Traveling for instance there is bound to be people within the group that of course arent "credible". Not all humans are born with the capabilities to do things that they want to do. Micheal Jordan might not have been such a great soccer player. Nor David Beckham a good basketball player.....What you must ask yourself however is whether the belief holds any resonance with you? Do you think Astral Travel is possible Polo C...? That is question.

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If you, or Lara, or anybody else has something concrete to say about Astral Travel that isn't some mysterious, magical, witchcraft, sorcery, imaginary stuff, then I am all ears, but if it is B.S. then I am going to vehemently tell you that it is because I Despise LIES!"

Im curious to know what your thoughts are on IQs description.

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Ask who? I am in constant contact with my higher self, so to speak, as a state of conscious awareness. The way I view things at all times is consistent. By this, I am constantly inspired into having new and deeper insights on a consistent basis. There are no angels or demons to speak to unless you are maybe smoking angel dust. Magic does not exist, causality does and the two are not compatible".

Ask your higher self. Do you not believe part of the Energy known as you in this reality does not have a higher existence as well?

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"The only higher dimensions there are to reach are higher dimensions of consciousness, not as some external condition as a part of space and time. I truly believe this interpretation is the result of stories by Rod Serling's "Twilight-Zone" or some other science fiction fantasy. In movies they have to simulate things on the screen in a certain way, but in actuality, what they suggest is both erroneous and impossible, but if people believe what they see on T.V. they sometimes convince themselves that these impossible things have, in fact, occurred in their own Real lives."

I agree. What do you think you are doing when you access these other "dimensions" of consciousness? Are you not access other dimensions of reality?
Why do you think we have these higher dimensions of consciousness? Why do they exist?

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Visualization? As an artist I visualize all of the time before I create. What exactly do you mean by visualizations?

Visualizations are mental exercises that involve using our own Energy systems through the uses of Symbols and Colors to protect, cleanse, and heal ourselves Psychically" And manage our own Energy levels, something few humans ever learn to do properly. The Chakric System consist of this energy.

Great that you know about and can have lucid dreams. They are a great way to learn alot about ourselves as multidiemsional beings on the Astral Level. Much safer too.

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Dervish
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posted January 01, 2010 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dervish     Edit/Delete Message
For the moment, I'm not reading the 5 pages (but I probably will later and might respond then). I'm just responding to the original post.

How could someone see themselves as a Twin Flame and/or Soul Mates without God in the equation?

Simple to me, in more ways than one. As just one example, I'll go with the assumption that we reincarnate over & over again, including with our "other halfs." In this case we don't need a god to serve as a matchmaker company, but we'd be attracted to what we needed and when our souls recognized that we needed each other to become whole or better, then our souls would merge and then become Twin Flames, bonded.

This could happen in a single lifetime, too.

Another concept is that we were all (at some "soul level") actually far more and were split into shards at some point and our Twin Flames are our attempts to fit back into a broken puzzle.

Seriously, giving thanks to some god for this strikes me as like the jocks or give thanks for winning a game when they never would've if they'd depended on prayer instead of hard training & honed talent.

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Polo C
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posted January 01, 2010 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message
Don't make a comment until you read because you'll make too many wrong assumptions. Go back and find out what I meant by God. It's a Pantheist view, not this B.S you're suggesting. I starting to HATE this site with all you little arrogant, narrow-minded, emotionally sensitive, childish MF!!!

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posted January 01, 2010 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message
moving this to Soul Unions

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