posted May 01, 2010 02:10 AM         

What is better:

passive aggressive?

or aggressive aggressive?

AD has posted in numerous threads
about how her husband survived
because she had another kid.
She has three kids already.
Doesn't he care about the
three kids he already has?
It just gets weirder.

How can I not say something?
Just something?

I dont want to say any more,
and i didnt want to say this much.
But if you want to focus on that,
instead of on what wheels did...

Trying to BREAK UP A SOUL UNION
isn't something Linda Goodman would
look very fondly upon, is it?

Enough with the lectures.

I won't hear a word of it until
one of you puts wheels in her place.

She came into a thread of mine,
a poem I wrote, -- not offensive, just my p.o.v.,
and began attacking me for stuff that had already been resolved.
The other day she called me a "tosser" and a "joke".
I didn't bother Randall with that, or with the horrible
and HIGHLY personal things Ghani said about me,
in all caps, which I practically ignored altogether.

But this time,
Wheels AMBUSHED my thread, out of the blue.

There can't be a clearer instance
of ambushing a thread, can there!?

Here's what she posted to me and my fiancee:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v161/wheelsofcheese/untitled-1.jpg

Clearly referring to me,
as she was in the whole thread,
until she said this crap to Yin,
who has always been kind to her:

wheels of cheese
Knowflake
Posts: 1457
From:
Registered: May 2009 posted April 29, 2010 12:17 PM
Pass moi a sick bwag issit? If wuv is sanctioning the behaviour of your poopkinchops who finks it's ok to threaten to kill his widdle self over an opinion he duddn't agwee wiv den you have my bwessing.
Awww. You so cute.
IP: Logged

This is how bullies talk!!!!!!!
all this condescending babytalk.

And she's saying these things
to someone who treats her far
better than her behavior deserves.

Yin told her once to stop,
after wheels posted these:

wheels of cheese
Knowflake
Posts: 1449
From:
Registered: May 2009 posted April 29, 2010 09:04 AM

Aww, poor baby. I know the place you're looking for. It's called www.misunderstood-self-proclaimed-genius.com
They're waiting for you there! God speed!
IP: Logged

That was wheel's first post,
after things had been resolved,
she comes in and her first words
to me are typical bully words:
"Aw, poor baby".
Sends me a fake URL, an insult.

She also, in her second post, i think,
sent a link to an article about abusers,
and a woman trying to get through to
her sister. I think it was called:
"What Does She See In Him?"

She later deleted this link.

You can see my first few responses to her.
They were reasonable and restrained.
I tried to redirect her to a poem that
was more optimistic, about reconciliation,
and I thought it might be more to her taste.

Nope.

She keeps going for a few posts,
unable to let up, then:

wheels of cheese
Knowflake
Posts: 1449
From:
Registered: May 2009 posted April 29, 2010 10:05 AM
No, I'll stick with the burger king. If I had to get on a boat every time you were a complete **** to someone I'd spend my life at sea.
IP: Logged

It's censored, so, i can only speculate
that she is now calling me "a complete sh!t".

Do I need to go on?

I don't think so.

How about I just sum up her insults:

"tosser", "joke",
"poor baby", "complete **** ",
and "smug, narcissistic,
worthless sack of sh!t"

Is this all perfectly fine now,
or should something HAPPEN?

This woman just tried to break up
a pure soul union for her own selfish
and twisted reasons.

What would Linda think of that?

posted May 01, 2010 08:22 AM         

If there are already two mods here, and we don't need any more mods, then how come I've seen Yin request her Denim Debate thread to be locked at least twice, and nobody did it??

Just wondering...

posted May 01, 2010 08:57 AM         

I didn't add Wheels of Cheese to my list of moderator suggestions, because of the arguing that was going on the other day, and the fact that she isn't at the site as regularly as she once was. I don't even know if she's going to come back.

Reasons she would be good: She's friendly with practically everyone here, down-to-earth, and contributes an awful lot wherever she goes - not only would she bring the fun back to LLC/FFA, that some have mentioned is missing (Gypsee hasn't been the only one to mention it), she takes the time to try to help people, and put them at ease, if they're troubled or in need of advice. I've really been impressed by her. (The same reasons I though of Unmoved: all of the above, and she has a good heart.) The only thing against her is that she doesn't remain calm with Valus.

I haven't read the rest of the thread, I just wanted to post this, because I posted my other choices. (And, for the record, I don't think anyone here is a tosser. We all have our moments.) Insults have been thrown back and forth - personally, I thought it was great, (early) last week, that Valus and Wheels were getting along.

posted May 01, 2010 09:43 AM         

quote:

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The only thing against her is that she doesn't remain calm with Valus.

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AND

tries to explain to me what kind of a person he is or what my relationship is like.

You can actually see that for yourself: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum25/HTML/001228.html

posted May 01, 2010 09:44 AM         

It may have seemed like I was taking sides, but I wasn't really intending to get involved. For whatever reason, Wheels felt angry but in my opinion that was not the right way to go about solving it. I like Valus and consider him a friend, but I didn't mean anything personal against Wheels, even though on that particular occasion she wasn't be very nice.

GypseeWind, well said; life is too short.

Maybe we should look at things this way. I don't know what other people's opinions are on the subject of "free will", but I know Valus has thought deeply about it. My own viewpoint on this matter is that "free will" does not exist in the way people generally think it does. Human beings are not rational creatures. We are, all of us, governed by unconscious urgings that stem from each of our individual upbringings/ conditioning/ experiences. The only way that we break free of these is to become aware of them, and in this way, grow beyond them, choosing other ways, gaining wisdom.

Human beings think of themselves as so great because we have all this technology....yet there clearly is so much we do not understand, about ourselves.

posted May 01, 2010 09:53 AM         

quote:

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I just hope four kids will be enough
to keep Kevin hanging on.

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It's this sort of rude comment I'm referring to. What's the point of that? Trying to make it seem nice by putting up a blue heart doesn't make it less rude.

quote:

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AD has posted in numerous threads
about how her husband survived
because she had another kid.
She has three kids already.
Doesn't he care about the
three kids he already has?
It just gets weirder.

How can I not say something?
Just something?

I dont want to say any more,
and i didnt want to say this much.

---

Again, what's the point of this rude comment?

It was only one, the denim debate, when I was pointing out to you that making broad sweeping statements, can cause misunderstandings because life is sometimes more complicated than black and white.

------------------
We cannot seek or attain health, wealth, learning, justice or kindness in general. Action is always specific, concrete, individualized, unique. --Benjamin Jowett

posted May 01, 2010 10:10 AM         

I take it you I haven't seen where she attacked Yin, who's always been nice to her, and tried to break up our relationship:

quote:

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wheels of cheese
Knowflake
Posts: 1457
From:
Registered: May 2009
posted April 29, 2010 12:13 PM
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I wanted him! It shoulda been ME!
*clutches temples and screams*

Oh SO JEALOUS pumpkin button! I wish you'd write porn about ME on a public message board, whilst slagging off every other woman and calling them grandma. I guess I lost out huh?

IP: Logged

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This one is directly to Yin:

quote:

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wheels of cheese
Knowflake
Posts: 1457
From:
Registered: May 2009
posted April 29, 2010 12:17 PM
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Pass moi a sick bwag issit? If wuv is sanctioning the behaviour of your poopkinchops who finks it's ok to threaten to kill his widdle self over an opinion he duddn't agwee wiv den you have my bwessing.
Awww. You so cute.

IP: Logged

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I patiently outlined the comments
made by wheels in my post above to LEXX.

You can see for yourself.

It's not about holding her temper.

She made a full-on assault on my thread.

Unprovoked, right out of the gate.

I was polite at first, as you can see,
if you take a few minutes to read it.

But she kept pushing and meddling.

The thread is there, and I suggest
you take a look before wheels deletes
more of what she did -- like the link
she posted about abusive boyfriends,
"What Does She See In Him?"

This is so over the top destructive.

I honestly can't remember ever seeing
anything this bad here at Lindaland.

And the general blindness to it
is even more absurd, especially
considering the flack I get just
for holding unpopular views.

I've had my most personal
and sensitive issues tossed around
like a ball by a bunch of bullies
playing "keep away".

And I never stooped to anything
close to what wheels just did.

This needs to be acknowledged.

Gypsee,

You are absolutely right.

The moderators are missing.

Randall,

posted May 01, 2010 10:31 AM         

posted April 23, 2010 04:32 PM
kat,

Stop following me.

Start your own thread.

You make things more and more personal.

Why do you do that?

Shut up about my brain.

Shut up about my relationship.

Just shut up.

'kay?

You don't get me,
and you are determined
to attack me for everything
YOU DON'T GET.

It's tiresome.

Call your grandchildren.

Read a book.

Have a life.

Don't just target my threads
and look for chinks in my armor.

I'd debate circles around you,
but you havent the sense to know
when you're beat.

Your stupidity is indestructible.

Is that how we should talk to each other?

F*cking get lost!

You bring out the worst in me.

Can you really not satisfy yourself
with threads not started by Valus?

Is it so hard to enjoy the other threads,
or to start a thread or two of your own?

I dont think I've confronted you
on something important to you ever.

But you confront me on
every thread I post.

What is it with you?

You're a troll.

That's the only solution.

You're a troll that doesn't
know how to do anything but
pick at someone else's work.

That's it, isn't it?

What's your sign, anyway?

What serious Saturn or Mars affliction
is responsible for your dogged persistence
in getting in my way every chance you get?

posted May 01, 2010 10:50 AM         

i don't know what the history is between you two but it seems "you bring out the worst in" her. i thought she was a bit over the top but then i thought your response to me was over the top too.

i have seen you using private information others shared with you to stick it to people you were angry with here. things accumulate.

instead of walking away you threw oil on the fire. and now that she is NOT HERE TO GIVE HER SIDE you try to get everyone to condemn her. talk to randall about it and stop making it everyone's business.

PLEASE

posted May 01, 2010 11:08 AM         

I apologize again for that outburst.

You have already heard my explanation.

I hope you and everyone here will allow me
to retract that brief outburst I once made
on a thread of mine, in response to your
persistent efforts to capsize my threads.

I don't think you are a troll.

I don't know why AD would see a reason
to drink up water from under the bridge,
and try to rekindle fires that have
already been put out and built over.

If I ever open a thread of yours,
like wheels openned a thread of mine,
and start attacking you relentlessly,
post after post after post after post
after post after post after post after post,
trying to yank your lifeline away,
then, please, speak with Randall,
and have me excommunicated from Lindaland.

You have my blessing.

posted May 01, 2010 11:18 AM         

quote:

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Valus...
I honestly can't remember ever seeing
anything this bad here at Lindaland.

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It was to illustrate, that I have seen things this bad here, at least twice this week

This is all I have to say on this matter.

I'm with LEXX, whomever will enforce this, gets my vote, whomever it is:

posted May 01, 2010 11:30 AM         

Also,

Wheels is not here to give her side, because she ducked out w/ her tail between her legs. She knows exactly what she did and is being avoidant, while the sh!tstorm ensues. That much is clear. But she doesn't get off the hook that easily.

I'm not going to rehash anything with you.

If you cannot see by now that what wheels did
is more deserving of a dressing-down than anything
I did once upon a time, then you are not objective.

Just look at what happened here, will you?

Was I attacking wheels? No.

Was I even posting on a thread of hers,
or trashing a poem of hers? Nope.

She called me a "tosser" and a "joke"
and my response was "I dont know what you are".

The next day she opens up a poem I just wrote
and starts trying to tear me and Yin apart.
This continues for two whole pages.
The abuse she heaps is staggering.

A reasonable person can at least admit here
that wheels has a serious apology to make.

Do it for the right reasons, kat.

posted May 01, 2010 11:32 AM         

Anyway, he says, "..The answer is easy if you see it logically.."

SOOOO, the answer IS easy if you see it logically.
If someone does not like someone, DON'T OPEN THEIR THREADS!!! I mean, how much easier can it possibly be??

If you see a thread with a provocative title, that you find offensive, and you open it, logic says you will be offended, and then feel the need to defend your stance.

This is debating, I get it.
Some people get off on it, and some people REALLY get off on it.

If you leave LL with a headache, and a stomache, something is wrong.

READ WHAT APPEALS TO YOU. WRITE WHAT APPEALS TO YOU, LIKE WILL FOLLOW LIKE, IS IT THAT HARD???

As far as blatant hijacking, that should be a NO NO! And name calling as well, by ANYONE.
Treat people how you would like to be treated.
NO, I take that back, treat people BETTER, be the bigger person, see how it fits, you might like it.

As far as "offensive Material" goes. I think Randall should step in and guide us here.
If you are going to post offensive material, please put a disclaimer. It's not fair to have to see something, when you thought you were reading something else entirely...

Surely all this is common sense, or have I lost my freaking mind??

posted May 01, 2010 11:35 AM         

Words to live by, yes indeed.

posted May 01, 2010 11:37 AM         

wheels of cheese

posted April 29, 2010 11:37 AM

...in half an hour I won't be around a computer until May 10th. x

posted May 01, 2010 12:05 PM         

How old does one have to be to discern from bad behavior and good behavior?

I think people here on LL have enough responsibilty and self control and are respectable enough to show good behavior on their own.

A Mod as never had to get on me for my behavior because I can correct my own behavior and I can tell when I have gone too far or hurt someone's feelings or I was being closed minded.

posted May 01, 2010 12:08 PM         

Star Signs, pages 42-45

Linda definitely knew how to make a point.

It's sad to think, if she were alive today
and started a thread with these words in the post,
and nobody knew it was her, and they were her words,
she would be subjected to tremendous scorn,
and find herself on several Knowflakes' sh!tlists.