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jwhop
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posted May 02, 2011 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"jwhop, I`m not big on conspiracy theories but yes, it leaves too many threads knotted. Something doesn`t fit here. DNA as you mentioned, he was in the middle of a military area/encampment and no proof positive is unreal."

Well juni, bin Laden was in what amounts to a mansion in Pakistan. But, he was not in a Pakistani military compound. There were armed people on the grounds...some of whom were shot by the Seal Team so I guess you could say it was an armed encampment.

It's the fast positive DNA results that I find hard to resolve with the timeline.

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juniperb
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posted May 02, 2011 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The stories are still comming so guess it`s a wait and see.
cnn said late last night he was "in the middle" a military encampment....

Burial at sea is very understandable.

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jwhop
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posted May 02, 2011 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, as I understand it, the mansion was located near a military installation..not in it or next to it but near it and Pakistan was not notified of the operation.

Reports I've seen state the operation on the ground took about 40-45 minutes but there's no reports of Pakistani military forces showing up at the scene while the operation was in progress to find out what was going on.

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PhoenixFire
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posted May 02, 2011 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixFire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Agreed, it does seem as if there are a lot of unanswered questions and loose ends. I do think he is dead, whether this occurred years before or just now. We are celebrating, our country has been hit with massively hard times and the people are finding closure for 9/11 in the symbolic death of alleged mastermind.

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MoonWitch
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posted May 02, 2011 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonWitch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://twitter.com/#!/reallyvirtual

Interesting read. The guy Twittered it as it happened.

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AcousticGod
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posted May 02, 2011 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree about the DNA thing, but as they found the compound several months ago, perhaps the DNA tests were part of what identified Bin Laden's definitive presense in the compound. I read that they weren't certain about it for awhile. A DNA test coming out of there could have provided that certainty.

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juniperb
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posted May 02, 2011 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At least the head is cut off the snake now!! That`s a relief to the many here and abroad who have suffered such great loss`s from his demented self and followers.

Who buys Pakistan wasn`t aware of the compound 60 miles from their capitol

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juniperb
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posted May 02, 2011 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The intelligence official said the DNA match, using DNA from several family members, provided virtual certainty that it was bin Laden's body.

Officials did not immediately say where or how the testing was done but the test explains why President Barack Obama was confident to announce the death to the world Sunday night. Obama provided no details on the identification process.

The U.S. is believed to have collected DNA samples from bin Laden family members in the years since the 9/11 attacks that triggered the U.S.-led invasion of Afghanistan. It was unclear whether the U.S. also had fingerprints or some other means to identify the body on site.

Bin Laden was shot in the head during the firefight with members of an elite American counter-terrorism unit that launched a helicopter-borne raid on the al-Qaida leader's compound, U.S. officials said. Officials said the U.S. special forces who stormed the compound came face to face with their prey.

U.S. officials also said bin Laden was identified through "facial recognition," a reference to technology for mapping unique facial characteristics, but it was not clear exactly how the Navy SEAL troops performed the comparison.

The body was photographed before being buried at sea, although no images have been released by the Obama administration.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110502/ap_on_re_us/us_bin_laden_dna

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iQ
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posted May 02, 2011 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
JWH wrote:
"Oh, and to kick off a new conspiracy theory among the America haters who believe nothing the United States does or says could possibly be good or true."

Ridiculous statement, someone is clearly upset that the Republicans did not do this and now he has to give "O Bomber" credit for an act very close to the Neocon heart.

Who represents the United States? Is the Socialist Agenda propounded by America through "O Bomber" good and true? Can other countries believe that? Will you be happy then?

In any case, "O Bomber" will have all those who fail to see through these political mind games for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

I was shell shocked at his audacity to put the Lion King video but then he has Sun conjunct Lucifer. I was hoping he would use it positively but...

For those who recall that movie, the little Disney movie snippet after the birth certificate release was a clever program to convince the huge gathering of decision makers [including the Donald] that Obama is a Horus Incarnate or chosen by Osiris.
Lion King is all about Osiris [Mufasa] killed by Set [Scar], sought by an ISIS inspired by Thoth [Rafiki] to rejuvenate Osiris [Simba] and ultimately
father young "Horus" to complete the Circle of Life after Set is finished off in a fiery battle.

Freemasonry is always the flavor for those in the corridors of American Power and the Brothers will throw their weight behind him 100% now.

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Chahldean
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posted May 02, 2011 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chahldean     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well said IQ, my sentiments exactly.

Coming from a Knowflake from another Country
in this "GLOBAL UNITY"...
At least someone is paying attention....
(I also love all the chemtrails in the Lion King, as in all the Pixar films afterward.)

The stage is certainly setting
and the players are all playing their parts...
The Orchestra is setting US up once again to
"elect" their selected One.

I wonder who it will Be?

I'm voting Ron Paul.
Again.

( oops I meant )


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Ami Anne
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posted May 02, 2011 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQ
I cannot follow YOUR beliefs on this.Could you please explain them to me?
I respect you so very much .

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lalalinda
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posted May 02, 2011 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.thebostonchannel.com/r/27739824/detail.html


Report: DNA At Mass. General Confirms bin Laden's Death
DNA From bin Laden's Sister Collected At Massachusetts General


BOSTON -- The death of a sister of Osama bin Laden at Massachusetts General Hospital allowed the United States to confirm bin Laden's death, ABC News reported.

When his sister died in Boston, tissue from her body was taken by government officials for DNA testing, ABC News correspondent Brian Ross reported.

A source told NewsCenter 5 that bin Laden's sister died in Boston about a year ago.

The tissue sample was used to match the DNA found on the man killed by special forces troops who conducted the raid on bin Laden's Pakistani compound.

Government officials claimed the DNA evidence provides a match with 99.9 percent confidence.

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SunChild
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posted May 02, 2011 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://vigilantcitizen.com/vigilantreport/binladen-mayfirst/

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jwhop
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posted May 02, 2011 09:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Ridiculous statement, someone is clearly upset that the Republicans did not do this and now he has to give "O Bomber" credit for an act very close to the Neocon heart."

Well, that's a load of codswallop, more so since I defended O'Bomber against what looks like the beginnings of another conspiracy theory....

bin Laden has been dead for years...just for instance and O'Bomber is just polishing his reelection chances..no doubt by trying to fake out Americans and the rest of the world that he sent Navy Seals and other Special Forces out and killed bin Laden on Sunday.

Juni, I've seen later reports about where bin Laden's compound actually was. Different reports have it as close as 100 yards and as far as 1000 yards from a Pakistani Military Academy. That's a lot closer than the earlier report I saw this morning.

Ummm, I understand there are DNA samples from a close bin Laden relative or relatives. What I don't understand is how they managed to run DNA samples on tissue from bin Laden...and get DNA results so quickly.

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jwhop
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posted May 02, 2011 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gee, the conspiracy theories have already started.

Not everyone believes bin Laden really is dead
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_BIN_LADEN_DNA?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-05-02-17-17-06

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posted May 02, 2011 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bethcarliseh:
what exactly are you celebrating?

I'm celebrating Bin Laden being dead!

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PlutoSquared
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posted May 02, 2011 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PhoenixFire:
Agreed, it does seem as if there are a lot of unanswered questions and loose ends. I do think he is dead, whether this occurred years before or just now. We are celebrating, our country has been hit with massively hard times and the people are finding closure for 9/11 in the symbolic death of alleged mastermind.

I love this post!!!

Celebrate good times, come on!

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posted May 02, 2011 11:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that"
— Martin Luther King Jr ...

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MoonWitch
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posted May 03, 2011 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonWitch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perhaps we should have invited Osama over to brunch. That would have made him stop wanting to kill us.

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posted May 03, 2011 12:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by katatonic:
"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that"
— Martin Luther King Jr ...

Thank God no one expects me to be a saint or a world leader... being a regular joe(joesella?) is so freakin nice

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PlutoSquared
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posted May 03, 2011 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MoonWitch:
Perhaps we should have invited Osama over to brunch. That would have made him stop wanting to kill us.

I thought about doing that, MoonWitch! However, figured he would just have ME for brunch...

American cuisine...

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SunChild
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posted May 03, 2011 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That beautiful quote is going viral on FB. Thank God.. as celebrating death of any sort makes not one drop of sense.

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posted May 03, 2011 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MLK is talking about the mood of the soul.

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posted May 03, 2011 12:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SunChild:
MLK is talking about the mood of the soul.


I don't care what he's talking about SunChild... I reserve the right to celebrate... don't rain on my parade!

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posted May 03, 2011 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.hulu.com/watch/19280/saturday-night-live-debbie-downer-birthday-party

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