posted May 03, 2011 10:05 AM            

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) – A woman killed during the raid of Osama bin Laden's compound in Pakistan was not his wife and was not used as a human shield by the al Qaeda leader before his death, a U.S. official said on Monday, correcting an earlier description.

John Brennan, President Barack Obama's top counter- terrorism adviser, told reporters earlier that the slain woman had been one of bin Laden's wives and had been used -- perhaps voluntarily -- as a shield during the firefight.

However, a different White House official said that account had turned out not to be the case. Bin Laden's wife was injured but not killed in the assault.

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I still don`t see how Bin Ladens DNA was processed so quickly. I had hoped Pid would stop by and share her knowledge on DNA processing.

Personally, it doesn`t matter if he was killed this week or a year ago. What has occured ( real or imagined) can`t be undone or altered.

What matters is how we move forward globally and as a people, to overcome the hate,fear and prejudice this war on terror and terrorists have created. It has divided us too long... to no benefit.

posted May 03, 2011 10:01 PM            

Too much synchronicity here? I do not think I buy into the coincidences. We are being played again.

As often happens the `facts` proffered raise more questions than have been answered. Many are rejoicing, particularly NYC and D.C. I understand that this is a symbol of closure, something that these people have never been offered, but the similarities between the joyful happy dance by Americans is too similar to the happy dance that occurred thousands of miles away on 9.11...that makes me sad.
OBL was never formally charged with 9.11. He is the poster for Terror in the U.S. We like to have a face for our hate. Financially is where OBL has hurt us the most. He promised it ( he wanted credit for our financial downfall.) As a young man he inherited 'Daddy's' money so this is understandable.

• Why was the body disposed of?
• Why was he not captured?
• If OBL is NEWLY Dead from wounds on May 1 who is his successor?
• will the U.S. Reduce military by half? That means 2002 levels

posted May 04, 2011 05:31 AM            

For instance, is it now acceptable under International Law for an official Iraqi Army strike force to enter the Texas ranch of the Bush family and execute Bush Senior and Dubya without trial for the death of innocent civilian Iraqis since 1991 ?
Can they can also dispose of their bodies in the sea after performing the last rites under Protestant Tradition ?

Is it now ok for the Chinese Army agents to not inform any American Government agency before capturing any threat to their business?

Is it ok now for the Indian Army to enter and kill Warren Anderson to avenge the 20000 deaths of civilians in the Bhopal Gas tragedy of 1984?

Obama could have opened a new Pandora's Box.

Node wrote:
"That Pakistan was likely fully aware of the residents of the Million dollar suburban home (1 mile from the Pakistani version of West Point) -and- we give them billions of dollars in subsidies...the irony is tremendous."
It is as if the billions were paid to the Pakistani Military keep him or his double alive in a safe place for a convenient date of "heroic vengeance" for the ruling government.

Relief for the Gulf victims and the Tornado affected has also been conveniently forgotten now, the news space has been captured by the best distraction possible.

posted May 04, 2011 09:56 AM            

Cheney and his Neocons are not part of the regular political order, in fact he and other(1997) signers of the Project for the New American Century went on to become part of the Bush2 admin.

They -PNAC- stated publicly that they needed a "Pearl Harbor-esq" event in order to accomplish their goals.
OBL was not a part of 9.11-- the public perception though, and mass acceptance of his being the 9.11 "guy" will never go away. That is what the Cheney cabal wanted.

I do believe OBL was living out his days at that house, I do believe he is now dead. He was not captured to stand trial as some of the holes in the 9.11 plot would be revealed to the world....we certainly cannot have that.

Obama might have done this to prove to the American Conservatives that he can get his hands dirty, and to the left he has offered closure of a pustulous wound....if taken at face value.

All in all a tremendous power play, even Cheney praised Obama-- how freaking weird is that???? (^ and Rumsfeld)

posted May 04, 2011 11:22 AM            

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Originally posted by katatonic:
"the virgin birth"..another unprovable event...does anything ever change besides the faces and names?

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Don't start with the Virgin Birth ,now

posted May 05, 2011 12:07 AM            

There are a lot of other terrorists out there who deserve their...what was that Russian term...oh yeah, now I remember; those terrorists deserve their "ounce of lead"..preferably in the head like bin Laden got it.

posted May 05, 2011 03:51 AM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
bin Laden got exactly what he had coming. to O'Bomber for unleashing the hounds of hell on his sorry ass.

There are a lot of other terrorists out there who deserve their...what was that Russian term...oh yeah, now I remember; those terrorists deserve their "ounce of lead"..preferably in the head like bin Laden got it.

Oh, one other thing. Publish those pictures of bin Laden with bullets in his head. The rest of the scum bags need to see what's waiting for them at the end of the line.

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posted May 05, 2011 07:26 AM            

Some can never hear anything
when they are all ways talking....
and talking.
and talking.

After a while
it's quite like
background noise....
nothing more.
nothing less.

Just shut the TV off.

( )

posted May 05, 2011 09:59 AM            

bin Laden was an enemy combatant, his choice and further, bin Laden declared war on the US way back in the 1990s.

If Kommander Korruption had done his job as Commander in Chief, bin Laden would have been dead in the 1990s and there would have been no 9/11. As Michael Scherer, who ran the bin Laden section at the CIA said, Kommander Korruption had 8-10 gold plated opportunities to take bin Laden out...and failed to pull the trigger on all those operations.

It's unfortunate but there are those who consider any enemy of America..their friend and never miss an opportunity to trash the US.

Unfortunate too, there are some who prattle about spirituality but the truly spiritual don't need to do so and wouldn't attempt to advertise their own.

As I said, bin Laden got what he deserved. It only remains for the rest of the scum bags to get theirs.

One last thing.

All those whiners, screechers, screamers and shriekers who wet themselves over Bush authorizing waterboarding for 3 of the high value al-Qaeda detainees...get this.

The information gained from waterboarding KSM and the other 2 led directly to the information needed to find and kill bin Laden. They gave up the information that bin Laden was using "couriers" and spit out one of the "street names" being used. The CIA found that courier's real name, found the courier, tracked him to bin Laden and...the rest is history.

posted May 05, 2011 10:00 AM            

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Originally posted by katatonic:
i wouldn't dream of it!

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posted May 05, 2011 10:25 AM            

And what great advice from the ultimate patriotic citizens: "No more whining. Just get on with it." The License to Kill has been authorized to all the world's nations. So to all trigger happy alien spooks of any democratic nation with an axe to grind against the crime family, the Texas ranch is all yours. Just avoid releasing photographs, and do keep a Pastor in your ranks. Who needs a boring trial? "O Bomber" can be informed after the deed is done. "O Bomber" also says there is no need for apologies, just get on with the job.
Learn from the World's only Superpower you sissy whiners.

posted May 05, 2011 11:03 AM            

The source of this information is Bob Woodward who conducted extensive interviews with Bush...and Bush administration officials, including George Tenet, in preparation for his book.

Now, if you want to waterboard Tenet, have at it. Of course you would need to go after ALL those who believed Saddam had WMD. That list includes virtually every foreign intelligence service officer in the world and also includes Saddam's Generals.

posted May 05, 2011 11:52 AM            

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Originally posted by bethcarliseh:
Does Jwhop really believe his own rhetoric?

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No, he just want the limelight

posted May 05, 2011 12:08 PM            

so why anyone here would say that when it is done by a government it is good?

posted May 05, 2011 12:20 PM            

and the US are a military super power. the only one.

financially, china is growing VERY fast with its responsability over the stability of the economy of other countries including the US, culturally, Europe has still some influence with its drawback: responsability toward history,

the US power and independence comes only from the military. they decide how brutal force will be in our common, shared, world. others will follow.

if you think about it, the powers are divided. military to the US, finances to china, historical influences europe, the real voice of the people: the third world.