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posted October 01, 2011 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love the graceful dancer posed on the broad back of the bull in your post Kat...

for those interested in the growing Occupation Movement another website to ponder:
http://www.occupytogether.org/

and- great article from across the pond, printed on Sept 25, long before the American MSM deigned to give the nod.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/sep/25/occupy-wall- street-protest?fb=optOut

In an utterly brilliant move, Stephen Colbert announces that Karl Rove isn't the only one that can elude campaign finance disclosure with a 501 C 4.

C 4's are the Campaign Finance glory holes--an undisclosed cash tsunami!
http://www.colbertnation.com/

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posted October 02, 2011 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2011/10/01/semper-fi-marines-coming-to-protect-protesters-on-wall-street/

Here’s the message Ward Reilly relayed from another Marine, on his facebook page:

“I’m heading up there tonight in my dress blues. So far, 15 of my fellow marine buddies are meeting me there, also in Uniform. I want to send the following message to Wall St and Congress:I didn’t fight for Wall St. I fought for America. Now it’s Congress’ turn.

My true hope, though, is that we Veterans can act as first line of defense between the police and the protester. If they want to get to some protesters so they can mace them, they will have to get through the ******* Marine Corps first. Let’s see a cop mace a bunch of decorated war vets.I apologize now for typos and errors.

Typing this on iPhone whilst heading to NYC. We can organize once we’re there. That’s what we do best.If you see someone in uniform, gather together.

A formation will be held tonight at 10PM.

We all took an oath to uphold, protect and defend the constitution of this country. That’s what we will be doing

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posted October 03, 2011 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hahaha

Collectively, the entire intellectual firepower of these America and Capitalist hating flat-lining nitwits and morons couldn't move the needles on an EEG!

But, they've attracted even bigger nitwits and morons to their cause. Michael Moore and Susan Sarandan. Could Noam Chomsky be far behind?
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/michael-moore-susan-sarandon-wall-street-p rotests-240706

Like the usual gaggle of Socialists and Communists, these morons are delusional.

Play the video
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/bill-oreilly-and-sean-hannity-send-film-cre ws-to-occupy-wall-street-protests/

Btw, who said the moron protesters aren't getting any press coverage?

Calling for totalitarian government...AND reelection of O'Bomber!
http://www.infowars.com/occupy-wall-street-protesters-call-totalitaria n-government-re-election-of-obama/

There in spirit...if not in person....is Roseanne Barr calling for beheading of Capitalists. Nice, very nice. I recall O'Bomber's as$hole buddy Bill Ayers and his Communist comrades at Weather Underground calling for the murder of about 20% of the US population who would never understand that the money they earn through hard work and diligence to sound economic principles...really doesn't belong to them; it really belongs to government to redistribute to those too lazy and shiftless to get off their dead as$es and earn their own.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/10/01/roseanne_bar r_behead_bankers_rich_who_wont_give_up_wealth.html

And now, leftists are attempting to ring in another phony soldier...a lying so called Vietnam vet...Ward Reilly...who was never ever in Vietman...just like the rest of the lying Winter Soldiers of the traitor John Kerry. Supposedly, US military personel are going to put on their uniforms and attempt to interfere with NY police who are engaged in doing their jobs. Is there a single reason to believe Reilly's Marine even exists? Still, I thought it interesting that attempting to ring in phony soldiers to stop the Iraq War, leftists are now pulling a page out of the same playbook. Didn't work then and it won't work now. But, that's leftist insanity for you. Keep doing the same things over and over expecting a different result!
http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=8723

Lucky for these leftist nitwits and morons that I'm not the Mayor of New York. If I were, every single protester who blocked the streets, blocked the sidewalks, camped out in city parks or interfered in any way with NY residents going about their lawful business...would be arrested, They would get out of jail only after presenting valid, positive identification and posting $500 bail to assure their appearance in NY Municipal Court.

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posted October 03, 2011 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sinking to alex jones level now are we?

"The zeal for totalitarian government amongst some of the “protesters” is shocking. One sign being carried around read, “A government is an entity which holds the monopolistic right to initiate force,” which seems a little ironic when protesters complain about being physically assaulted by police in the same breath"

crikey, a sign protesting govt monopoly on force is translated into a PROtotalitarian sentiment? what you see is what you get i guess, but talk about dumb...this is ANTI govt using force against citizens, but am i surprised that you found it to mean the opposite? no.

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posted October 03, 2011 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and of COURSE, if a soldier wants to support this he MUST be a fake! do you know how many vets are TOTALLY AGAINST WAR having witnessed it? unlike those who had to stay at home for whatever reason, bloodthirsty to the end.

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posted October 04, 2011 08:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rosanne wants to behead Capitalists. O'Bomber's as$hole buddy, the domestic Communist terrorist bomber wanted to liquidate 20% of the US citizenery.

These wall street marching clowns are just the "useful idiots" of Socialism and are cut from the same bolt of cloth as the rest of the Marxist Socialist Progressive pukes.

Here's who they really are. Anti-American, anti-capitalists. Note...the Worker's World Party is a Communist group who thinks the murderous Communist regime of Kim Jong Ill in North Korea is just dandy.

They've even posted their latest Commie Manifesto. Here it is..and here they are!


PICKET: Occupy Wall Street protesters post manifesto of (TT:Commie) ‘demands’

Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending “Freetrade” by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.

Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.

Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.

Demand four: Free college education.

Demand five: Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand.

Demand six: One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now.

Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America’s nuclear power plants.

Demand eight: Racial and gender equal rights amendment.

Demand nine: Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.

Demand ten: Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system.

Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the “Books.” World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must also be stricken from the “Books.” And I don’t mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period.

Demand twelve: Outlaw all credit reporting agencies.

Demand thirteen: Allow all workers to sign a ballot at any time during a union organizing campaign or at any time that represents their yeah or nay to having a union represent them in collective bargaining or to form a union.

No one with two, (2) brain cells to rub together would be found anywhere near these idiots and morons.

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posted October 04, 2011 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, how fitting that they should dress as zombies, since they are brain dead!

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posted October 04, 2011 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
curious where you got your "demands" list from jwhop..? not the one i saw, though there were some immature ideas there too.

so you two are now all in favour of the FED, bailing out banks?

there are idiots in every "movement"...remember the tea partiers in medicare wheelchairs complaining about "entitlement" and warning the government off "my medicare" in the same breath?

maybe it is time to stop calling the "other" brain dead and see what we have in common?

since the ruling elite encourage division and they are doing a VERY good job right now?

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posted October 04, 2011 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://old.nationalreview.com/coulter/coulter.shtml

We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war.

Every single time there is a terrorist attack — or a plane crashes because of pilot error — Americans allow their rights to be contracted for no purpose whatsoever.

- ann coulter 2001

obviously the ONLY solution is to FORCE everyone to be like us. to live by our rules. THIS is freedom. right?

on the other hand i agree with her, the attack on OUR freedoms has been coming from the government (not JUST wall street and central bankers) for a long time now. and nothing to do with LEFT or RIGHT, democrat or republican.

the ruling class is the ones holding the purse strings. same as it ever was.

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posted October 04, 2011 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class thug for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism."-LtGen Smedley Butler, USMC

"I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a do...zen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902–1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents."

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posted October 04, 2011 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and a couple of the comments below

How do active service members reconcile this quote with the notion that serving is honorable? Do they think times have changed? Do they think he was wrong? Do they think that may have been true for him, but the general affect of our military is for the good of the US and the world as a whole?

I do not doubt that the bulk or our service members are good kind people. Brave strong people who will risk their lives to save their fellow soldiers and fight for America. And I understand that for many, signing up is part of the road to a better life. But I can not help but feel they are duped. It seems that our actions abroad are, overall, vastly counter to the interests of our country. And that no large scale international actions in many decades have been even remotely related to the safety of family and friends back in the States.

The US armed forces may help protect economic interests, but that benefit goes mostly to the top, and even what us in the middle enjoy in lower gas prices and related reduction in the cost of consumer goods: that's not enough. That does not justify violent action. That does not justify killing.

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99% of service men and women are the 99%. We signed up because of the promise of a better life- a college education, an opportunity to train the body and the mind, a chance to help defend those we know and love from a those who would harm them, and maybe make something of ourselves.

But once we get deployed, the game changes. Make no mistake, we're not happy to be out there watching our efforts being squandered away back home to greed, misinformation, and bigotry. We're not happy to hear that everyone we were supposedly protecting are suffering due to a fouled economy- a dragon of our own creation. We soldiers, sailors and airmen are routinely lied to, manipulated, and used, and you'd better believe we know it. We're not stupid. You're absolutely right, we were duped, but that doesn't matter. We stood up and raised our right hand and gave our word to our government and, more importantly, to our families and friends, and said we would fight. We made a promise.

Now I know that something as small as a promise doesn't sound like very much, but when you're out there at an FOB, or riding in a convoy, or doing figure eights on an aircraft carrier, it means a whole hell of a lot. That guy or girl next to you made the same vow- they're neck deep in the same **** . It doesn't matter if you're a California liberal and he's a Texan conservative, or you're a Yankee's fan and he's a Sox fan, not when times are tough. What matters is that when things go bad, you know he or she has got your back. They'll die for you, and you in turn would do the same for them- because of the common bond you share, because of something as small as a promise.

For us, it's not about flag waving, or blind patriotism- those are tools to help the civilians back home reconcile watching us die in a foreign land. It makes them feel better knowing we're serving some "grander scheme". No, when we see the flag, we see our homes, and our loved ones, and everything we give two ***** about in this world. It symbolizes everything important to those who went before us and came back in a flag draped casket. Soldiers and Veterans get upset when people burn the flag not because of what it represents to you, the protestor, but because of what it represented to those who shed blood for it, and unless you served truly understanding what that means is a lot like trying to understand beautiful music when you are deaf.

Honor isn't killing a bunch of brown people because rich ***** halfway around the world are greedy. Honor is getting up every damn day and putting your life on the line for the guy next to you. Honor is standing watch at all hours of the night, so your squadmate/shipmate can sleep in relative safety. Honor is dealing with all the crap shoveled onto your back by a government that can't decide when the mission is complete, or serving under a commander in chief who never went a single soldier's funeral, all because you made a promise, and your word is your bond in an insane world. Honor is facing all these storms head on, even when you're tired, ****** off, or terrified.

I agree with you completely, it's sad that we live in a society that puts us in this kind of a situation. But you must understand that when we pull the trigger, it's not because of economics. We're not out there thinking "America got so much better after they repealed the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933. Die ************ , die!" We shoot because we're waist deep in a shitstorm and if we don't return fire that guy or girl next to us could very well die, and when you're overseas the people you fight alongside are just as much your brother or sister as anyone back home. You eat together, drink together, fight together, and grieve together.

And when I see people from all walks of life standing up together and saying "enough is enough", well that just makes me swell with some real pride. It's what we fought for, and it helps give a little bit of meaning to an otherwise meaningless conflict.

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Former Marine here, I cannot tell you how much truth you have just said. I've never been able to put it all into words just like you have and am glad you did. Hopefully others might hear and understand. Thank you.

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100% of service men and women are the 99%... the top 1% doesn't send their kids to die, they send ours.

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posted October 05, 2011 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
there are bound to be some extremists involved in any large group. but that set of PROPOSED demands is not final its just a starting point. most of the people there are really just looking for a way to get the money users on a more equal footing.

and they have a lot in common with you. abolishing the FED for a start. making elections honest, nothing wrong with that either?

as to a "living wage" for everyone whether idle or productive, well you start from a higher demand than you expect to end up with, right?

i don't see commies taking over the USA anytime soon. but finding a way to clear the playing field so equal OPPORTUNITIES exist again would be a good thing, not? at the moment big money has the "free" market and the govt sewn up. this is not healthy.

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posted October 05, 2011 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Original Boston Tea Party Was A Civil Disobedience Action Against A Private Corporation. The Original Boston Tea Party Feared That Corporate Greed Would Destroy America...“Their Conduct in Asia, for some Years past, has given simple Proof, how little they regard the Laws of Nations, the Rights, Liberties, or Lives of Men. [...] And these not being sufficient to glut their Avarice, they have, by the most unparalleled Barbarities, Extortions, and Monopolies, stripped the miserable Inhabitants of their Property, and reduced whole Provinces to Indigence and Ruin.”

and as i recall one of the original CURRENT tea party bloggers pointed out that the american revolution only counted 3% of the then population as ACTIVE participants. the rest were either Loyalists(of the crown) or sitting on the side line

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posted October 05, 2011 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Federal Reserve Chairman Bernanke On Occupy Wall Street: ‘I Can’t Blame Them’ | During a hearing before the Joint Economic Committee yesterday, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke was asked about the ongoing Occupy Wall Street protests that have spread from New York City to cities across the country. He said he “can’t blame” protesters for taking to the streets, considering continued high employment and slow economic growth. “They blame, with some justification, the financial sector for getting us into this mess,” Bernanke said:

BERNANKE: I would just say very generally, I think people are quite unhappy with the state of the economy and what’s happening. They blame, with some justification, the problems in the financial sector for getting us into this mess, and they’re dissatisfied with the policy response here in Washington. And at some level, I can’t blame them. Certainly, 9 percent unemployment and very slow growth is not a good situation.

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posted October 05, 2011 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Asked about the ongoing Occupy Wall Street protests in an interview with the Wall Street Journal that posted today, GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain said he suspected that they were “orchestrated” to help President Obama. Cain went on to blame the unemployed for their woes, saying, “if you don’t have a job and you’re not rich, blame yourself!”:

CAIN: I don’t have facts to back this up, but I happen to believe that these demonstrations are planned and orchestrated to distract from the failed policies of the Obama administration. Don’t blame Wall Street, don’t blame the big banks, if you don’t have a job and you’re not rich, blame yourself! [...] It is not someone’s fault if they succeeded, it is someone’s fault if they failed

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posted October 05, 2011 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://planetsave.com/2011/08/28/who-runs-the-world-network-analysis-reveals-super-entity-of-global-corporate-control/

interesting study on who controls money around the world...

and while it doesn't corroborate the statment "goldman sachs rules the world" it does show that GS are definitely up there with the very few who, basically, do...

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posted October 06, 2011 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Like I said, anarchists and communists and now, union thugs have joined them...same thing.

Their claims that they're the 99% of Americans is pure unadulterated horseshiiit.

Most Americans look at these little leftist pukes and want to throw up. Their so called demands could have come straight out of the ass of Karl Marx.

The Occupy Wall Street Manifesto
Anarchists are the handmaidens of tyranny
by John Hayward
10/06/2011

Three weeks into the “Occupy Wall Street” protests, the disorganized mob of shiftless protesters is receiving fresh shock troops from Big Labor. An article at Business Insider lists the new arrivals: “United NY, SEIU 1199, United Federation of Teachers, Working Families Party, and MoveOn.org. The Transit Workers and AFL-CIO are also expected to participate.”

And here I thought the protesters were upset about Big Business using its clout to take advantage of people! Big Labor is the biggest Big Business of all. The SEIU and AFL-CIO are mega-corporations that spend millions purchasing political influence to sustain their “business model,” at a substantial cost to consumers and non-union job seekers.

Also, many among the first wave of protesters were aging college students whining about the high balance of their student loans. Do you suppose the kids will discuss those grievances with the United Federation of Teachers when they show up?

The protesters romantically bill themselves as anarchists, which has attracted some lovestruck admirers from the dreary conventional Left. Here’s Michael Tomasky dashing off a quick mash note in the Daily Beast:

I want to stipulate up front that I am firmly on OWS’s side. I don’t really know who its leaders are, and I don’t especially care. I don’t know its exact goals - a subject on which the movement has been roundly, and in my view pointlessly, criticized. But it is desperately needed. It needs to succeed. And I fear it won’t. To succeed, it would have to model itself on 1963, not 1968. And I’m not confident that any left-wing protest movement today can understand that.

Tomasky is worried that the Occupy Wall Street crowd will strike Middle America as a gang of scary freaks, and might turn violent, which distracts from their wonderful all-American message. He’s not sure exactly what that message is, but he loves these guys because they hate the same people he does, and they’re blocking traffic. (Hilariously, Tomasky thinks the subprime mortgage crisis was caused by “deregulation.” Barney Frank​? Chris Dodd? Never heard of ‘em!)

He doesn’t need to worry about OWS failing to be useful to doctrinaire liberals. Those union thugs are pouring into Wall Street because they understand that anarchy is the handmaiden of tyranny.

Anarchist movements are never followed by increased liberty. Even if the protesters imagine themselves to be rebels against oppression, they are always supplanted by highly organized and aggressive leftists with domination on their minds. You can watch it happen in real time on Wall Street today, as the rabble is pushed aside by a disciplined, uniformed regiment wearing SEIU T-shirts.

The first wave of OWS protesters will hardly be unwilling victims of the organized hard-Left takeover. They’ve been on the same page all along. They’ve got a website, and they eventually got around to posting a long manifesto of demands required to “end the occupation.” All of these demands require the exercise of compulsive government force on a massive scale.

Occupy Wall Street wants a “guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment,” along with a minimum wage of twenty dollars per hour. This would require the large-scale seizure of assets from working people to fund the “guaranteed living wage” of those who decide not to work. More force would be required to suppress those desperate to find gainful employment, and willing to work for less than $20 per hour, in the graveyard economy OWS seeks to create.

Of course, the protesters want “free” college educations, which would require the enslavement of either teachers, or those compelled to subsidize them. They want universal single-payer health care, insisting that “private insurers must be banned from the health care market.” Obviously, force will be required to shut down the entire private insurance industry.

They want to “begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end,” which is obviously not something the residents of industrialized nations will do willingly. Trillions are demanded for “infrastructure” and “ecological restoration.” You can’t accumulate that kind of dough by asking for voluntary donations.

Perhaps most tellingly, one of Occupy Wall Street’s demands is “immediate across-the-board debt forgiveness for all.” Everything from sovereign debt, to home mortgages and personal loans, would be wiped out instantly. They explicitly demand this on a planetary scale. They also want to “outlaw all credit reporting agencies.”

This is nothing less than the wholesale seizure of private property – everyone who holds paper would be subdued at gunpoint, allowing an all-powerful, all-knowing super-State to allocate property and financial resources according to its compassion and wisdom.

One of the most important functions of a legitimate government is the enforcement of legal contracts. Without this principle, advanced economies cannot exist at all. The demand to wipe out all debt by fiat is the perfect inversion of contract law: the government-supported theft of assets from lenders by borrowers, accomplished through the unilateral destruction of the borrowers’ side of lawful contracts they entered voluntarily. This is oppression, not “liberty.”

A fairly large number of people would have to be gunned down in cold blood to fulfill these demands. Anarchist mobs can’t grind that kind of meat – it’s a job for fascist legions. Far from agitating for any species of liberty, even the kind envisioned by the hopelessly lazy and disaffected, these protesters are demanding the final dissolution of economic liberty. Their daydreams could only be realized by totalitarian government on a towering scale, in which meaningful dissent from “compassionate” collectivism has been entirely eliminated.

Occupy Wall Street sounds stupid and crazy... but there are organizations like the AFL-CIO, and the degenerate hard-left Democrat Party, who have plenty of uses for stupid and crazy foot soldiers, once “liberal thinkers” and helpful media allies have cleaned them up a bit. The Democrat agenda is only a little less compulsive than OWS’ list of demands. As long as they can all agree on the basic principle of forcing people they dislike to give them stuff, they’ll get along swimmingly.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=46658

"The Original Boston Tea Party Was A Civil Disobedience Action Against A Private Corporation. The Original Boston Tea Party Feared That Corporate Greed Would Destroy America.."..katatonic

Horseshiiit!

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posted October 06, 2011 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well that last quote came to me through someone you would NEVER say "horseshit" to, but never mind your favouritism and ego..

yes the demands are immature, and yes they are likely to be co-opted, just as the tea party was, by more organized, powerful entities.

but i wonder why you don't see that a UNION is made up of members who have VOTES that influence their policies, while a CORPORATION has members who TAKE ORDERS from the CEOs like it or not?

and the original tea party WAS an action taken against the EAST INDIA TEA CO, a giant corporation of the time (still in existence!) and that jefferson also stated on more than one occasion that such big corporations were dangerous to liberty?

and sorry, but you have NO IDEA WHAT "MOST" americans feel or believe. these folk have many supporters around the world. you may not like their fashion sense, but they are pointing out that 99% of us are held hostage to the profits of the other 1%.

isn't it time to find common ground and try to get things back to a reasonable playing ground? this is just the other side of the same coin you have been pushing since i met you!

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posted October 06, 2011 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your quote is horseshiiit precisely because colonists were not protesting the East India Company. They were protesting the British Parliament which imposed a tax on tea.

Neither were colonists protesting the "greed" of the East India Company, which company at the time was in rather dire financial straits.

The so called Wall Street protesters are not at all what they say they are. They are hooked up with the O'Bomber reelection campaign, trade unions like SEIU and leftist kook revolutionary anarchists.

They are attempting to overthrow the financial system of the United States, Capitalism, the US Constitution and the rule of law.

They are O'Bomber's rabble rousing mob and they are not going to succeed.

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they are a disorganized bunch i admit, precisely because they ARE what they say they are, PEOPLE who are ****** off that the banks have been REWARDED for hoodwinking and stealing from the public.

that some of the public were fools to fall for the easy mortgage bait doesn't really alter that fact.

yesterday i received an offer for a refinance deal on my house!! from fannie mae/cashcall, fannie mae being DEFINITELY part of the whole scam.

funny thing is I DON"T HAVE A HOUSE! so why are they offering to refinance my loan which completed in 09?

probably the same reason some people whose houses were PAID OFF IN FULL had foreclosures laid on them! negligence and/or indifference to reality?

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Your little Marxist Messiah, THE ONE, O'Bomber was the biggest recipient of Wall Street cash katatonic.

If Wall Street institutions are breaking the law...as you allege, then katatonic, why isn't your little Marxist Messiah, O'Bomber putting them in prison?

Bush did. Bush "Faithfully executed the laws of the United States" and Wall Street criminals went to prison.

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It is stupidity piled upon stupidity for anyone to believe these whining, screeching, moaning, shrieking little brain dead America hating anarchist twerps represent 99% of the population.

Ditch the Coke Nail: Advice for the '99 Percent' Movement
by Lori Ziganto and Jenn Taylor
10/07/2011


My mother is drowning in debt so I can earn a degree that offers NO FINANCIAL SECURITY. I am the 99%

Dear Shameless in Seattle (or somewhere similar, most likely),

So, your story is that your selfish desire to study underwater basket weaving, Klingon, and queer musicology is drowning your mother in debt? Ever hear of a little something called shame? Or do they not teach that in your overpriced, masturbatory degree program?

Hey, jackass, how about giving a rat’s arse about your own mother? She should drown in debt so that you can continue with your unmarketable studies in navel gazing? What’s more, you’ve clearly mastered the art of being totally self-absorbed and no further studies in that concentration are necessary. Kudos, Doctor of Entitlement!

We’d bet cash money that you are totally against water boarding terrorists, but drowning your own mother so that you can mentally polish your bishop is hunky-dory, huh? You are a terrible son and a terrible human being. Man up, stop sucking at mommy’s increasingly shriveled teat, and get the hell off her lawn. If you want to study something with no financial security—say, tree-climbing or Oprah studies—do it on your own dime, leech.

And cut your hair; it looks absurd.


I bought my house on a “fixed rate” mortgage. My payments go up every 6 months because of adjustments in interest and escrow payments. I’m afraid that I won’t be able to afford my house soon. I am the 99%


Dear Math is Hard,

We'll break this down rather simply for you. Because, evidently not only is math hard, but reading is not fundamental to some:

a) That's not fixed rate, idjit. If there are adjustments, then that means it is, you know, an ADJUSTABLE rate.

b) The people who did read their loan documents and pay their mortgages, as willingly entered into, should also pay for you because you were too lazy to read and comprehend your loan docs? But the house was so purty! Oh, look! A shiny!

Guess what, Ms. Math is Hard? Plenty of people could not qualify for a fixed rate standard mortgage and somehow managed to understand that their income would not magically increase via unicorn farts and fairy dust every six months to cover increases due to an adjustable rate.

THEY RENT.


I’m ASHAMED to be an american,
where I’m ANYTHING BUT FREE.

& I won’t forgive the men who LIED,
and took that right from me

THE TIME IS NOW.

We are the 99%.

Dear "american" woman,

Our advice is simple: ditch the coke nail.

Seriously, just hack that nasty thing off your pinky and don't look back. And bear with us, this might seem unconventional, but consider giving up the coke habit too.

If you don't have your heart set on a decent job while you're waiting for The Revolution to outlaw money and usher in a resource-based economy, we suppose you can keep your coke nail. But honestly, if that's your choice, don't count on your skills as a lyricist to get you by.

Times are tough since the bottom dropped out of the single-verse, anti-American song parody market. Your use of a lowercase "a" in "american" was a nice touch, but you'll never impress your friends in the 99 Percent Movement if you continue to brazenly flaunt your filthy cultural hegemony. Try swapping "american" for the Occupy Wall Street-approved demonym "USian" and watch your career soar!

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I'm a college senior with $40K of debt. There are no jobs in my feild. My toughest decision now is whether to sell drugs or my body. I am the 99 percent.

Dear Crime Conundrum:

Evidently, your 'feild' (sic) is not English. We won't even bother trying to explain to you the idiocy of knowingly and willfully spending $40,000 that one cannot afford on a degree that is worthless. That idiot ship has sailed. For now, your pressing problem is which criminal enterprise to enter into. If bound and determined to go the, you know, illegal route to solve your self-inflicted problems, it is clear that you'll need to go with the former; selling your body does not appear to be a viably profitable option.


I am 20 years old and upwards of $275,000 in medical bills from this last year due to a condition I was born with. I can't get insurance because of a "pre-existing condition." I will die before America wakes up. I am the 99%.

Dear Walking Dead,

We can see by your peeling, flaking manicure that you've been pinching pennies to get those overwhelming medical bills paid. And cutting your own bangs too! That's a great start, but you could save hundreds, even thousands of dollars a year by limiting yourself to just one coat of red latex paint on your lips each day. Ka-ching!

Also, that choker you're wearing may be a tad too tight. Surely if you had adequate blood flow to your brain, you'd remember a little something called ObamaCare. You remember, the Affordable Care Act that your tear-stained, self-mutilating emo hipster buddies think doesn't go far enough toward destroying American health care and increasing medical costs for millions? Well, it now provides subsidized coverage for Americans with pre-existing conditions in all 50 states.

Sure, having insurance won't make you a rock star of the 99 Percent Movement. But on the off chance you're willing to drop the beleaguered victim shtick, Papa Government is here to help. Bonus: it's funded to a great extent by the tax dollars of all those eeeevil Wall Street types.

We'd tell you to turn that frown upside down, but, uh, it would look pretty much the same.


I AM AN UNEMPLOYED PRINTER REPAIRMAN WITH $87,000 IN STUDENT LOANS. I MAKE ENDS MEET BY CLEANING THE BATHROOMS AT RYAN¡¯S STEAK HOUSE.

I WAS FORCED TO MOVE BACK INTO MY MOM¡¯S BASEMENT, AND I CANNOT AFFORD TO FEED MY CATS BECAUSE THEY WON¡¯T TAKE FOOD STAMPS FOR CAT FOOD. I AM THE 99%. OCCUPY WALL STREET

Dear Walking Stereotype,

Dude, your mom's basement? That cannot be true. When we first read your plea for advice, we were certain that it must be fake. It's like you took two stereotypes of total loser slackers personified and smooshed them together. Mom's basement. And cats. For whom you want food stamps. Do you dress them in little outfits, too? All fancy boy and dandified and such?

What's worse, back into your mom's basement. Did she have your Star Wars sheets at the ready to put back on what we are certain is your twin bed? Clearly, nothing larger is necessary; you aren't going to score with the ladies in Mommy's basement. With your cats. Who are the only pussies you'll be seeing any time soon.

While it seems to be to your credit that you did not squander away money and get yourself into debt for an attempted 'career' in, say, jazz flute, it is a bit confusing as to how one possibly has $87,000 in student loans for printer repair school. Ever hear of Devry or ITT Tech​?

On the plus side, well done on that whole printing out your 99% screed instead of scrawling it out in nearly indecipherable writing like the rest of your fellow travelers. You've managed to keep your own printer in excellent repair!


am over $250,000 in debt for house, car & student loans.

$160,000+ $5,000 + ¡Ö$100,000 (My PhD Mr + AS Me)

We spend over $18,000 paying down debt each month and less than $100 a month on food

This needs to change!

We Are The 99%

Dear Starving in Scarsdale,

How will you ever endure the hungry days and sleepless nights until your $250,000 debt is paid in full? It's gotta be, what, 14 whole months of $18,000 payments until you're debt free? That's 14 months of wiping with toilet paper instead of hundred dollar bills. Oh, the humanity! Tiny violins would be the soundtrack of your life (if only the tiny violinists didn't collapse in giggle fits when they read your story).

Of course, very few people will actually see your story now that it's been deleted from the We Are The 99 Percent Tumblr. But who can blame them? The 99 Percent Movement is a very exclusive club comprised of just 99 percent of the population. It's not like just anyone can show up at Zuccotti Park and join The Revolution. Clearly your six-figure salary (or substantial savings) and $18,000 a month debt payments don't make the cut. Optics are a ***** , huh?

Still, we're happy to give you some advice. It's what we do.

Reward yourself and spend another 500 bucks a month on food. You're part of the 53 percent -- you earned it. Maybe even send a few vegan pizzas to Zuccotti Park to get back in the good graces of the Occupy Wall Street slackers? You'll still have that debt paid off in around 15 months, and maybe if you feed them, the oh-so-edgy revolutionaries will tolerate your harrowing tales of unbearable suffering.

Just don't feed them after midnight. Or get them wet. It doesn't end well.

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OUR LOVE IS ETERNAL BUT we need a secure home I need adequate mental healthcare. He needs adequate physical. We are the 99% ....We are both artists who largely survive on SSD/pending SSI. These allotments get us by, as we live frugally, but put us in the poverty level. He was born with a physical disability due to a birth trauma, & I’ve been diagnosed with schizo-affective disorder. We live in an abandoned coffin factory that has been converted to a livable and affordable housing space for artists....

Dear Unfortunate Looking Twilighters,

By "live in an abandoned coffin factory," we can only assume that you of course mean "live in an abandoned coffin, period." Your love is eternal only because you are clearly UNDEAD. We are perplexed as to what you are demanding; you are already living (or unliving, being amongst the undead) on the public dole. Perhaps you are demanding "free" health care for your schizo-affective disorder? (Schizo-affective? You're joshing! Who'd have thunk it?!)

In which case, let me point you to one of the heroines of the anti-capitalism Left: Nancy Pelosi​. Perhaps one can't get newspapers nor cable access in a coffin, so we'll fill you in. There's this thing called ObamaCare and Nancy Pelosi said that it is specifically for "artists" like yourselves. In fact, she said that a main goal in providing health care on everyone else's dime and to the detriment of the economy as a whole was to make sure that y'all "artists" didn't have to do anything pesky like actually work. See?

“We see it as an entrepreneurial bill,” Pelosi said, “a bill that says to someone, if you want to be creative and be a musician or whatever, you can leave your work, focus on your talent, your skill, your passion, your aspirations because you will have health care.”

Sadly, there must be some loophole that excludes vampires. I suggest a march. Perhaps add a Vampire Equality amendment to your list of demands and the banning of all holy water and garlic.


I am a 38 year old divorced woman working part-time with no medical insurance. I dropped my $10K deductible government policy last year because it didn’t seem to make sense to continue paying premiums for something I couldn’t afford to use. I have a 20-year history of minor & major depressions & recently diagnosed myself with diabetes while treating my cat for it. I last saw a doctor & my dentist in 2008.

My younger brother committed suicide at age 28, due in part to the lack of appropriate medical care & insurance.

We are both part of the 99% & we are not alone.

Dear Diabetes Dilettante,

We're truly surprised your marriage didn't work out. Any woman with no medical training who can use a cat's illness to diagnose her own diabetes is quite the catch. A real keeper. Even the great Wilford Brimley needs to buy diabeetus testing supplies.

You're a veritable medical magician! (And seriously, how are you single? It boggles the mind.)

We're sure dozens of human diseases could be diagnosed by the average Joe if only he knew how to read the cryptic signs in every purr and meow. You owe it to the 99 Percent to share your talents with the world. If you don't, why, you're no better than the greedy Wall Street fat cats.

And really, there's nothing insane about this skill of yours at all, so don't let anyone tell you you're nuts. They're just jealous.


When I was 17, I chose to attend an affordable state school in a village close to home even though I had been accepted to 2 “Ivy’s” and many of my friend were attending prestigious Universities around the country. My parents, who worked blue collar jobs, could not provide much support for my education so I chose state school knowing that I would have to pay the debt in full. I worked two jobs through college to make ends meet and networked constantly my junior and senior year to try to find work after school. The Monday after graduating with my “useless” communications degree, I started as an intern in IT at a local college, making minimum wage doing work that was not related to major, but work nonetheless. After a year of showing up on time and doing my job, they hired me full time and I was awarded affordable health benefits and a retirement fund. Two years and no raises later, they offered to pay for my MBA through their program at the business school. In 2010, I bought my first car, a new toyota corolla with money that I’d saved for almost 5 years. In 2011, I bought my first house on my own after living on my own since college in a shared apartment — a $72K, 1 bedroom condo with mortgage payments that were affordable, even with my low income. Shortly after, I finished my MBA and I was promoted into a higher paying job that allowed me to make larger payments against my debt while continuing to live a modest life. I do not live with a great deal of luxury, but my life is the result of constant forethought and planning to secure comfortable means to live by. I do not not now, nor have I ever relied on anyone else to pay my way through life.

Dear Subversive Infiltrator,

How in the hell did you sneak in? This does not suit. You with your subversiveness and your infiltrating--how can the slacker whiners continue their mewing when you demonstrate the horrifying traits of personal responsibility and a good work ethic?

Not buying things that you can't afford? Not leeching off your parents and driving them into debt? What kind of dark magic is this? You must be one of those evil Wall Street Fat Cats in disguise. People shouldn't have to, you know, act responsibly and pay their own way. People shouldn't have to succeed on their own merits nor plan ahead for their own futures. How can the 99 percenters tweet stuff about The Man (tm) keeping them down from their oh-so-hip iPhones and such if you are speaking all truth to power in their FACE?

Fascist.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=46683

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http://www.canada.com/technology/steve-jobs/Church+uses+iPhone+tweet+threat+picket+Steve+Jobs+funeral/5512774/story.html

once again the "haters" resort to calling obama the messiah, something those who voted for him never called him. the slogan was WE ARE THE ONES we are waiting for.

however in the comments on the story re sarah palin NOT running for president, "don't go, sarah, YOU ARE THE ONE we are waiting for"...spot the difference.

while i have admitted repeatedly that i liked obama and voted for him, i have also expressed disappointment in his actions. never once did i so much as hint that he was a messiah or an "icon"(another of your pet nicknames, not mine!) and i have agreed with you that there are far too many ridiculous regulations on the books (national AND state).

however you continue to try to "call me out" with your dumb sloganizing...why is that, jwhop? can't you use real words and thoughts to discuss these issues?

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