posted October 15, 2011 01:32 PM            

unfortunately there are all too many of these nutters still around. they have absorbed any number of conspiracy theories and failed to make the distinction between the rothschilds and jews in general. sad but hardly typical of the protesters, who live in new york and are probably half jewish themselves!

posted October 15, 2011 01:41 PM            

That fact points directly to the Useful Idiots who are college graduates NOT WANTING A JOB!

Further, in no way are these morons attempting to clean up Wall Street or make corrections to the existing economic system. They are engaged...along with their Marxist brothers in attempts to destroy the system and institute Socialism. They are preaching "revolution" and "murder" on the streets.

posted October 15, 2011 03:51 PM            

as to the "caving" of the mayor over the eviction that didn't happen, the protesters spent hours cleaning up the square, but when it comes right down to it, it is PRIVATE PROPERTY and the OWNERS changed their minds, presumably when they saw the cleanup efforts.

posted October 15, 2011 07:15 PM            

they don't want to take the rich's money and divide it amongst the rest of us.

listening to sean hannity today (!) once more i heard the scoffing tone that people just want to "eat the rich" but that's not what it's about.

as you yourself said ages ago, no company should be considered "too big to fail" but when they have their money in every pie it is hard to bargain, isn't it? did you know the biggest shareholder in JP Morgan Chase is the queen of england? is that an american company? do you know how many millions they just donated to the NYPD to keep this protest in "order"?

and if koch can buy a university's hiring practices, why can't a private property owner allow people they choose on their property? don't you believe in private property rights now?

posted October 15, 2011 08:08 PM            

When will Martial law be called for? Thats the sad end I see in sight. Shut em up, move em on and teach the world a lesson

Certainly there is some whining and dining going on but on the other hand, good hearted people who played by the rules are protesting the hood winking they received.

These kids whining are the kids of our tomorrow (those holding signs in jw`s post). Too bad we didn`t think of that when we were raising them to be self reliant adults? Or maybe we didn`t....

It is an age old and heart breaking conflict from Americas Independence til now...

posted October 15, 2011 08:31 PM            

as pointed out during the tea party heyday, the american revolution consisted of a very small percentage of the population. most preferred to stay at home in either tacit support or as loyalists to the crown.

the fact that some of the ideas and "demands" being expressed are extreme or ridiculous doesn't detract from the basic message, things are not working are they? and as long as money runs politics they will not, can not.

yes, since day 1 and before...every so often it becomes obvious that it is critical. multinationals sucking up taxpayers money should be an obvious no-no to all sides IMO...and this is just one president too many who either has his hands tied or is playing along.

plenty of young adults are perfectly self-reliant. they are doing okay. that doesn't mean they like what they see out there. and if the young people don't use their energy to speak out, things will keep going the same old road. it's nearsighted to dismiss people for their fashion sense and miss the chance to find a bottom line in common. this is global.

posted October 16, 2011 08:38 AM            

katatonic, that is a flat out damned lie!

"WASHINGTON - You won't find it in his campaign ads, but Barack Obama let slip his plans to become a modern-day Robin Hood in the White House, confiscating money from the rich to give to the poor."

"Conservatives yesterday ripped Obama after he was caught on video telling an Ohio plumber that he, (O'Bomber), intends to take the profits of small-business owners and "spread the wealth around" to those with lesser incomes."
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/politics/item_iQRtIQHjYPcEoMZ0lJX0hI

Now all O'Bomber's support groups are openly in "solidarity"...love that communist buzz word "solidarity"....with the idiots who call themselves the 99%.

Yep, the American Nazi Party...National Socialism and Communist Party USA...International Socialism are onboard O'Bomber's attempt to deflect attention from his miserable failure as president.

Worker's World Party...another communist support group is already there.

All we need now is for Van Jones, O'Bomber's former Green Jobs Czar...and self described "Revolutionary Communist" to show up for the perfect little Socialist Hoe-down.

Of course, O'Bomber's swill drinking Kool-Aid mushrooms say the occupy wall street morons are protesting O'Bomber too.

Hey swillers of O'Bomber Kool-Aid, where's the "O'Bomber Suks" signs at the Socialist Hoe-down?

Nazis and Communists Throw Their Support Behind Occupy Wall Street Movements
Jim Hoft
Saturday, October 15, 2011

"The American Nazi Party likes what it sees.
Today the American Nazi Party released a statement in support of Occupy Wall Street movement.

The foremost authority on National Socialism in America has this to say about “Occupy” [ANP leader Rocky Suhayda -ed.] :

What is really MISSING – is the “MOVEMENT” from these popular protests – its time to pull WN heads out of their collective ass’s, and JOIN IN the attack on Judeo-Capitalism. What do you suggest? That WN Working Class White people DEFEND the Judeo-Capitalists? IF the “movement” wasn’t so PATHETIC it would be OUT THERE – LEADING these protests! The fact that its these “lefties” as you call them, who are picking up the ball and running with it – only shows how much more in tune THEY are with the fed up masses of White Workers, than the fossilized, reactionary “right-wing”. WHO holds the WEALTH and POWER in this country – the JUDEO-CAPITALISTS. WHO is therefore the #1 ENEMY who makes all this filth happen – the JUDEO-CAPITALISTS. WHO therefore do WN need to FIGHT? My heart is right there with these people, perhaps someday the “movement” will SHOW the same COURAGE and DEDICATION that these people OUT THERE FIGHTING are SHOWING!

Sincerely, ROCKY SUHAYDA Hail Victory! 88!"

"From the CPUSA website:

This is an exciting time! Thousands of mainly young people have been occupying Wall Street for three weeks already, and the “Occupy Movement” has spread to more than 200 other cities. On Oct. 6 the actions spread to our nation’s capital.

The Communist Party USA (CPUSA) will hold a national teleconference to discuss it:

Arturo Cambron
The Communist Party and the Occupy L.A. Movement
Tuesday, October 11, 8 pm Eastern
Teleconference number: 605-475-4850 (please note this is the corrected number. ignore previous.)
Access code: 1053538#

Southern California Party leader Arturo Cambron will share how the CPUSA and Young Communist League (YCL) are working in “Occupy Los Angeles.”

This movement, also known as the “99% movement,” is being hailed across the country. Movements and organizations are reaching out in solidarity . The AFL-CIO is opening union halls and offering other material assistance. Ordinary people are donating food, money and materials.

In many areas, the “Occupy Movement” is linking up with the National American Wants to Work Week of Actions, Oct. 10-16.

No doubt the “Arab Spring” demonstrations and those that exploded in Wisconsin, Ohio and elsewhere have inspired it. But underlying it all is the economic crisis, the massive unemployment and growing realization that nothing is getting better, and in fact we may be slipping into a “double dip” crisis. The crushing student debt and the feeling of being locked out of society with no future compound this.

posted October 16, 2011 12:38 PM            

i suppose you think obama telling a plumber something on video negates the fact that if any wealth has been distributed, it has been from the middle UP, as in bailouts for the banks to be able to give huge bonuses and CONTINUE fleecing the public through mortgages and interest.

actions speak louder than words. there has been no redistribution of wealth to the poorer among us, but the richer. cuts in programs to the poor all around. this is why so many of his former support base are peed off with him.

posted October 16, 2011 12:45 PM            

as to the robin hood article from rupert bear's rag the nypost, NO VIDEO, just opining from critics.

posted October 16, 2011 08:20 PM            

"We Can Not Sleep Through the Revolution’: Al Sharpton Tells Black Community to Join the Revolution Because Those Kids on Wall Street Are Right About Redistributing the Wealth"

So say Reverrrrrend Al!
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/we-can-not-sleep-through-the-revolution-al-shapton-tells-the-black-community-to-join-the-revolution-because-those-kids-on-wall-street-are-right-abou t-redistributing-the-wealth/

But wait, you assured everyone they don't really want to take money from others to redistribute. Nah, never!

But Reverrrrrend Al has one thing wrong. This bullshiiit wasn't started by a bunch of "useful idiots" in the United States.

posted October 16, 2011 10:02 PM            

i think, jwhop, they may want to get rid of money altogether, are you ready for that?

this is the uranus square to the 60s' conjunction with pluto. and the us goes through this with alarming predictability as corruption is unknown, then ignored, then lamented, then thrown out. and the phoenix will rise from the ashes. sorry for the poetic license, but this is part of the SAME thing the tea party are doing. just a different fashion approach. roll with it. or figure out someway to stop the divide-and-conquer ethic of the ruling classes and the impulse to throw off the chains of the rest.

posted October 17, 2011 09:45 AM            

F--- THE USA!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeuGx8PplAo

This entire fiasco has been ginned up from the beginning by those attempting to draw attention away from the worst president in US history...and O'Bomber and his campaign are using the "Useful Idiots" just as I said.

White House Draws Closer To Occupy Wall Street, Says Obama Is Fighting For The Interests Of The 99%

The White House continued its embrace of the Occupy Wall Street protests on Sunday, using the strongest terms yet to identify President Barack Obama with the growing movement.
http://www.businessinsider.com/white-house -draws-closer-to-occupy-wall-street-says-obama-is-fighting-for-interests-of-the-99-2011-10

And further this is not a spontaneous gathering. It was planned from at least August and isn't even an American enterprise but rather a Anti-Capitalist Canadian enterprise.

So far, these Anti-American, Marxist, Socialist, Progressive pukes have the support of the insane Ayatollah Khamenei in Iran and Islamic terrorists support them too...and these little America hating pukes support the terrorists.

Islamic Terrorist’s Family Hosted by Occupy Wall Street

"Al Qaeda Terrorists (Like Tarek Mehanna) Occupy Wall Street: “We Are the 99%”"
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/43284/islamic-terrorists-family-hosted-by-occupy-wa ll-street/

Then, there's this. 34% of these shiiit for brains protesters think the US government is no better than al-Qaeda

"Rank yourself on the following Scale of Liberalism:.

posted October 17, 2011 12:23 PM            

i agree, there are plenty of useful idiots there. as there were in the tea party.

posted October 17, 2011 01:12 PM            

For those who haven't figured it out yet, this little operation is 2 pronged. First, get the Marxist Socialist Progressive O'Bomber reelected. Second, bring about the collapse of the US economic system...so it can be said that "Capitalism failed".

But, what's been happening in financial markets and the US economy isn't Capitalism. It's crony Socialism and it's been an abject failure anyplace it's been tried in the world...and it's still failing in Europe where collapse is imminent.

posted October 17, 2011 07:34 PM            

"the enemy of my enemy is my friend"

people who would love to see the us fall will view ALL protests and dissent as beneficial. i'm sure they liked the tea party who-ha too. those who squelch dissent see it as a sign of weakness.

posted October 29, 2011 09:47 AM            

The Left was envious when Tea Party protests popped up in 2009, and now has countered with the Occupy Wall Street gathering in New York that has spread to other cities. While Tea Party enthusiasm became an effective force during the 2010 elections, #OWS will not have the same impact and here is why: The Top 10 Reasons Occupy Wall Street is a Joke.

1. Agenda: Unlike the clarity of the Tea Party message of smaller government, the Wall Street Occupiers have a potpourri of juvenile demands, from free college education and an annual living wage to “forgiveness of debt on the entire planet.” One protester mused that the solution was to do away with money altogether. Apparently these recipients of federal student loans have yet to take Economics 101.

2. Celebrities: The usual suspects of empty-headed progressive Hollywood stars are showing up at the Wall Street rally, many arriving by limo. Millionaires Tim Robbins, Susan Sarandon, Michael Moore and Roseanne Barr have all made appearances. Kanye West wore gold jewelry worth more than many protesters have made in their lifetimes. If they hadn’t noticed, these stars are part of the 1%.

3. Soros: The roster of George Soros-funded entities are aiding and abetting the Occupy movement. AdBusters, an anti-consumerist publication that sounded the initial call for the protests, is funded in part by Tides, a major recipient of Soros’ funding. Another Soros venture—MoveOn.org—has rallied support for the initiative. Soros, a billionaire several times over largely through currency manipulation, says he “sympathizes with their grievances” of those protesting corporate greed.

4. Arrests: Unlike the Tea Party rallies, there have been numerous arrests at the Occupy protests, as the crowds ignore city ordinances about overnight camping on public property. Nearly a thousand were arrested in New York for blocking the Brooklyn Bridge, snarling traffic for those who work for a living, and hundreds have been taken into custody in Chicago, Boston and other cities.

5. Politics: Democrats from President Obama on down are trying to find common ground with the Occupy Wall Streeters, hoping the protests can be the liberal equivalent of the Tea Party and breathe some life into a moribund progressive movement. The hypocrisy is ripe—the President has garnered more corporate donations than any politician in the nation’s history.

6. Unpatriotic: OWS protests routinely view the United States as the enemy. The American flag is trashed, desecrated and flown upside down. A Coast Guard female officer in uniform was harassed and spit on near the Boston rally. In Portland, Ore., a speaker said, “F**k America.” The protesters would like nothing better than to see the decline of their country.

7. Extremists: It is no small feat to be praised by both the American Nazi Party and the Communist Party USA. From aging hippies who are trying to relive the glory of the Sixties to the younger anarchists who have nothing better to do, many of the OWS protesters are extremists who show up at every left-wing demonstration.

8. Trash: After Tea Party rallies, the grounds were generally swept clean of garbage by the protesters, leaving the areas cleaner than before they arrived. In contrast, at OWS protests, piles of trash are mounting, creating a public health hazard. And after several weeks, many in the crowd are in dire need of a shower.

9. Anti-Semitic: While the mainstream media pushed a fictitious story line that the Tea Party was a cauldron of racism, the OWS rallies feature plenty of examples of outright anti-Semitism. The rallies are marrying the anti-Zionist tirades of the Left with the stereotypical view of Jewish Wall Street bankers to create an ugly atmosphere.

posted October 29, 2011 03:08 PM            

there are multiple viewpoints yes, and the main "demand" is merely that the people of this country be allowed a voice. heinous!

the unions were invited by the protesters, not the other way around. presumably because the unions are made up of voting members who are part of the workforce, not idle spoiled kids/bums.

in nashville a couple of days ago, the city changed its ordinance, creating a curfew in public parks between 10pm and 6am. i wonder how many of the protesters were informed about this before the 2:30 raid (while most were aleep) evicting and arresting them? and i wonder how much time they had to clean up before they were dragged off?

the anti-semitic nutters have been filmed AND the people they were heckling throwing it back in their faces.

and you, jwhop, while claiming to love america, scorn its duly elected officials and harp on and on about the socialist conspiracy to destroy the country. a little less naivete on your part when reading the slanted "exposes" would go a long way.

and that "PHONY soldier" in hospital in oakland is one of many who belong to groups of vets against the iraq war and FOR peace. he survived two tours in iraq only to be injured by the PEACE OFFICERS evicting the riffraff CITIZENS from city hall plaza.

i agree, many of the desires of this crowd are immature. there are homeless folk attaching themselves to the camps attracted by food supplies...

however i have yet to see

effigies of the president
guns on the protesters
bricks being thrown at republican headquarters

or anyone as vile as ann coulter speaking on behalf of this crowd.

six of one, half a dozen of the other? what happened to "i may not agree with what you say but i'll stand up for your right to say it?"

there are bozos in every crowd.

posted October 29, 2011 03:44 PM            

i too see the idiots in this "movement". i see how easily they could be manipulated.

what i don't see is why you don't get they are entitled to their black-and-white views and that combined with the tea party they represent a lot of discontent in this country with the SYSTEM. it is not enough to focus on one side or the other. it is not enough to sneer at one politician no matter how powerful.

rather than do the ann coulter and practice verbal slaughter, i suggest it might be time for the more seasoned and perpicacious to steer the discontent into trimming some of the fat from the country.

the whole system is corrupt. there is too much money influencing politics. there are too many career politicians digging their heels in on both sides.

when will we ever learn?

it has nothing to do with your fashion sense, how often you shower (did you know that if you shower more than once every three days you wash away any natural vit d before you can absorb it??) or whether you are fond of little catchphrases like "you betcha, yep yep yep, hopey-changey thing" or winking at people to show you are smarter than they.

it has nothing to do with the colour of your skin or your political party. washington is a corporation, owned by the moneylenders and bigger corporations, who are now trotting around in sheeples' clothing but somehow dodging the responsiblities of the people they would love to be included with.

america's pluto return is looming, with uranus squaring off to it, and a saturn return has just finished. so what is going on is not only not surprising, but right on time.

posted October 29, 2011 05:16 PM            

They have no permits. They block people trying to get to work. They block people trying to shop. They block businesses. They're in violation of city, county and state health and sanitation laws. They're selling and using drugs.

posted October 30, 2011 12:25 PM            

maybe so, jwhop, except for those who are not. and when the city chooses to CHANGE the ordinances to make raids legal, without informing the protesters, what do you call that?

posted October 30, 2011 12:51 PM            

i find this result of deregulation disturbing. this is one of the MAIN problems targetted by the OWS, that the tea party seems blissfully ignorant of. when allowed, the big fish will eat all the little fish. result: end of "free" market.

posted October 30, 2011 05:55 PM            

and you have a short memory. those "cute" signs, like effigies of obama, hitler mustaches on his face and the classic pickaninny poster with all the trimmings of the barbecue and "black" foods...so CUTE! not

posted October 31, 2011 10:09 AM            

You'd have at least a little credibility katatonic...if you had produced some pictures of those signs and effigies you complain about.

Just as you and others would have had at least a little credibility...if you or they had produced a little evidence that tea party members used the "N" word or spit on black congressional members.

As far as I know, the offer of $100,000 by Andrew Breitbart for anyone who can produce evidence any tea party member spit on black congressional members or used the "N" word is still in effect.

Now katatonic, if you could use the $100,000, why not go for it?

These anarchists, communists, socialists and progressives protesting Wall Street are so stupid they don't know that "JOBS" are not created on Wall Street but are rather created on "Main Street".

So stupid they don't realize their student loans are in the hands of the federal government...not Wall Street bankers and financial institutions.

So stupid they don't realize salary and perks of Wall Street executives didn't cause any of the the problems they whine about.