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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted May 11, 2012 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Shabbat Shalom, Ami.

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posted May 11, 2012 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Shabbat Shalom, Ami.

Thanks Ian. To you, too, as you are grafted in

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posted May 11, 2012 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well randall, definition is key...i doubt many gay baiters consider themselves bigots either.

have a good snigger, you two, as i said i am from jewish ancestry too. you'd be surprised how many jews you think are nonjewish because of their names..

for instance i don't believe ami goes by a "jewish" name herself for all her pride.

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posted May 12, 2012 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by katatonic:
well randall, definition is key...i doubt many gay baiters consider themselves bigots either.

have a good snigger, you two, as i said i am from jewish ancestry too. you'd be surprised how many jews you think are nonjewish because of their names..

for instance i don't believe ami goes by a "jewish" name herself for all her pride.



OMG That is hilarious.

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posted May 12, 2012 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"and where do you get the idea that it was obama who published this story about mitt's bully days? it was a washington post piece from what i heard."...katatonic

Yes, the Washington Post and The Treason Times are the propaganda arms of the demoscat party and Barack Hussein O'Bomber.

But, since those idiots decided to go all the way back to 1965 to dig up some dirt on Romney, let's go back to the 1980s and see what Barack Hussein O'Bomber was doing. Shall we?

Never mind, I'm going there anyway...even if leftists want no part of O'Bomber's past and certainly, the propaganda press wants no part of this story.

From O'Bomber's book...Fables..ummm..."Dreams From My Father"...about HIS high school days.

Paraphrasing here.
"I hardly attended classes"

Direct quote here!
"I had learned not to care," he wrote. "I blew a few smoke rings, remembering those years. Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it. Not smack, though. ..."

So Romney said Boo to some poor innocent, oppressed classmate BUT...

Barack Hussein O'Bomber was a doper into illegal drugs and alcohol.

AND, unlike Kommander Korruption..aka, Bill Clinton...who never inhaled , but whose brother Roger said..."He has a nose like a vacuum cleaner", O'Bomber admits he did "inhale and snorted cocaine.

Hey, I'll take the guy who said BOO over a doper...any day!

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posted May 12, 2012 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, Mitt Romney is not a good person.

I posted that sole sentence as a comment on a Yahoo! News article and got 22 thumbs-up and only one thumb down .

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posted May 12, 2012 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you had said the earth is flat in 400BC you would have gotten unanimous agreement...no dissenters.

The fact you got majority agreement with your nonsense by 22 out of 23 responders is evidence of nothing more than colossal ignorance.

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posted May 12, 2012 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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If you had said the earth is flat in 400BC you would have gotten unanimous agreement...no dissenters.

The fact you got majority agreement with your nonsense by 22 out of 23 responders is evidence of nothing more than colossal ignorance.



Totally. Who wants to be one sheep in a herd

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posted May 12, 2012 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So Romney said Boo to some poor innocent, oppressed classmate BUT...

attacking someone with scissors and multiple backup, pinning him to the ground because you don't like his hairdo...

this is NOT saying "boo" jwhop, shame on you. it is assault with a deadly weapon. it is one thing to call someone names. all of us have done that.

as for drug use, if no one else is affected who flipping cares? the war on drugs is a bloody good excuse to lock up a bunch of people who have done nothing to anyone. AND SPEND THE TAXPAYERS MONEY on a futile venture, meanwhile covering up the governments complicity in the growth, creation and exportation of the same substances.

but the real difference? one has reflected on the folly of his behaviour, the other is still defending it 50 years later.

one was somewhat disillusioned and
strayed into escapism, the other was a bully who STILL considers this incident a "prank".

shall i go on? you really don't care what you say as long as it knocks obama do you? shall we use one of your own phrases and out you and your "obama derangement syndrome"?

as for me i'll take the guy who admits to his past faults over someone who doesn't even recognize his bad behaviour, or just plain lies his way through accusations, ANYDAY!

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posted May 12, 2012 09:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
I know a lot of Republicans, and none of them are bigots.



How many Republicans do you know who are in favour of gay marriage?

For that matter, how many Republicans do you know who are in favour of interracial marriage? Polls should a good number of them apparently don't recognize the Civil Rights movement .

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posted May 12, 2012 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You think Obama is really in support of gay marriage? He said that as a political move. I know he's the Messiah of the left, so you will worship him no matter what he says or does, but come on--don't be so gullible.

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posted May 12, 2012 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"You think Obama is really in support of gay marriage? He said that as a political move."

Clearly. But this is beside the point. Answer the question, Randall. How many repubs do you know in favor of gay marriage? Are you in favor of gay marriage?

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posted May 12, 2012 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey stop with the stereotyping already!

I'm in an interracial marriage.

My wife's two brothers are in an interracial marriage. My brother is in an interracial relationship. My son is an interracial relationship.

That's 8 members of my family, plus two girlfriends.

We are all conservatives. OK?

The sweeping statements about political groups is getting very annoying.

Ask Allen West. A black man who is very proud of the civil rights movement, and also a stellar soldier and proud conservative. A Republican congressman from Palm Beach. He is also in an interracial marriage.

Ask Clarence Thomas. Ask Thomas Sowell. Ask JC Watts. Are you going to dishonor these black heroes??!!

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posted May 12, 2012 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not in favor of marriage...period. It's also the number one cause of divorce.

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posted May 13, 2012 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The sweeping statements about political groups is getting very annoying

yes it is yes it is.

as to the suggestion that obama coming out was a political move, yes, but not the way you like to think. it was a statement that he is for equality for ALL, not just based on colour or religion, but also on sexual orientation. which he has said before, and in fact i remember jwhop moaning and groaning because it was written into law early in obama's tenure, that crimes perpetrated on people for sexual orientation are not excusable. we didn't need that, jwhop said, ALL individuals are equal under the law. (apparently not, heh?)

now that is a terrible crime, don't you think? to be willing to allow equal rights under the law to all consenting adults...pity it has to be said over and over again.

but romney, the "small government" man, wants to make the OPPOSITE a NATIONAL law, for the minute anyway.

this may be popular with minorities (what obama said), but it is also a common thread. unlike romney, obama does not sway like a reed in the wind, despite some people's opinions that he does because he didn't take office and wave a magic wand to make everything right for the little guy and only the little guy.

darling of the left? the left are not that in love with obama, randall, but maybe if you repeat the chant enough, they will change their minds.

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posted May 13, 2012 06:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Hey stop with the stereotyping already!

I'm in an interracial marriage.

My wife's two brothers are in an interracial marriage. My brother is in an interracial relationship. My son is an interracial relationship.

That's 8 members of my family, plus two girlfriends.

We are all conservatives. OK?

The sweeping statements about political groups is getting very annoying.

Ask Allen West. A black man who is very proud of the civil rights movement, and also a stellar soldier and proud conservative. A Republican congressman from Palm Beach. He is also in an interracial marriage.

Ask Clarence Thomas. Ask Thomas Sowell. Ask JC Watts. Are you going to dishonor these black heroes??!!


AQ We have Ian here to bust that old stereotype. Try harder next time

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posted May 13, 2012 06:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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darling of the left? the left are not that in love with obama


This quote from one who is in Obama's camp shows that we are making great progress to making Obama a one term president.

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posted May 13, 2012 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"attacking someone with scissors and multiple backup, pinning him to the ground because you don't like his hairdo...

this is NOT saying "boo" jwhop, shame on you. it is assault with a deadly weapon. it is one thing to call someone names. all of us have done that."...katatonic

As usual from you katatonic....a load of codswallop. Assualt with a deadly weapon katatonic? The threat was to cut the poor oppressed student's hair...not stab him in the neck, heart or back.

Oh, and btw, this was all the way back in 1965.

I notice no one here...including you katatonic wants to discuss our doper, boozer president O'Bomber and what he was doing in the 1980s.

Typical leftist hypocrisy and it doesn't play well.

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posted May 13, 2012 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
You think Obama is really in support of gay marriage? He said that as a political move. I know he's the Messiah of the left, so you will worship him no matter what he says or does, but come on--don't be so gullible.

I genuinely do, and it's because he voiced his support back when he was a Congressman. He redacted to "civil union support" because that was a "safer" political move 4/5 years ago. Recent polls show the majority of Americans now support gay marriage - VOILA! Obama magically voices his support. I'm not gullible. I don't just listen to what they say as presidential candidates. I listen to what they said BEFORE they were presidential candidates (fully recognizing that they were probably just appealing to their voter base then, too - for instance, Romney and liberal views when governing a liberal state). I've stated multiple times that both Romney and Obama have done flip-flops according to public opinion and in line with party views on key social issues. I think it's lame in either case. Politicians are not honest, though.

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posted May 13, 2012 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
"attacking someone with scissors and multiple backup, pinning him to the ground because you don't like his hairdo...

this is NOT saying "boo" jwhop, shame on you. [b]it is assault with a deadly weapon. it is one thing to call someone names. all of us have done that."...katatonic

As usual from you katatonic....a load of codswallop. Assualt with a deadly weapon katatonic? The threat was to cut the poor oppressed student's hair...not stab him in the neck, heart or back.

Oh, and btw, this was all the way back in 1965.

I notice no one here...including you katatonic wants to discuss our doper, boozer president O'Bomber and what he was doing in the 1980s.

Typical leftist hypocrisy and it doesn't play well. [/B]


To be perfectly honest, I don't give a crap what drugs someone did as a college student. I really don't. As someone who was bullied, I don't take kindly to bullying. I think it shows **** -poor character, particularly when it's done to someone else because of something beyond their control (sexual orientation in this case). Big difference between hurting yourself and hurting others. If Obama had beat someone up because of their race, for instance, back in high school, I could not overlook that glaring reflection of horribly bad character no matter what. Maybe it's just that people who are themselves bullies can't understand why most people find bullying to be a red flag?

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posted May 13, 2012 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
not sure why you would say no one wants to discuss the doper boozer president, when that has already been addressed.

not surprised you consider assaulting someone with scissors to be no big deal, even though the fact that that person was struggling enough to need holding down by four others would make it very possible that he would be hurt; nor that you can't tell the difference between someone who thinks such a stunt is laughable even now in his maturity.

i suppose you also agree with limbaugh that "those were the good old days, when bullying was fine and dandy"..?

while obama shows conscience and regret for his actions, apparently he is unforgiveable despite all the other nasty things you forgive everyone else because it was "way back when"...

exactly whom did obama hurt or threaten with his actions, jwhop? you? some poor nerd who happened to be "different"? for someone who decries the "sheep" in this world, you show little tolerance for those who walk their own path!

and no, ami, you are not "winning" because the left is upset with obama. you are on the wrong track altogether!

is either of you a member of the flat earth society? yo u would fit right in...

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posted May 13, 2012 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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not sure why you would say no one wants to discuss the doper boozer president, when that has already been addressed.

not surprised you consider assaulting someone with scissors to be no big deal, even though the fact that that person was struggling enough to need holding down by four others would make it very possible that he would be hurt; nor that you can't tell the difference between someone who thinks such a stunt is laughable even now in his maturity.

i suppose you also agree with limbaugh that "those were the good old days, when bullying was fine and dandy"..?

while obama shows conscience and regret for his actions, apparently he is unforgiveable despite all the other nasty things you forgive everyone else because it was "way back when"...

exactly whom did obama hurt or threaten with his actions, jwhop? you? some poor nerd who happened to be "different"? for someone who decries the "sheep" in this world, you show little tolerance for those who walk their own path!

and no, ami, you are not "winning" because the left is upset with obama. you are on the wrong track altogether!

is either of you a member of the flat earth society? yo u would fit right in...


Well you know, they're from the south, so...

Poverty and lack of investment in public education does strange things to people.

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posted May 13, 2012 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, our doper, boozing prez was discussed..by me katatonic and only because there are some here who think Romney's so called bullying in 1965 is a big, big, big political issue.

I'll take the former bully...Romney over the doper, boozing pres with the fried brain..any day.

"Recent polls show the majority of Americans now support gay marriage"...Aquacheeka

Really Aquacheeka? Then perhaps you can explain why whenever the issue of gay marriage appears on a ballot in even very far left states, voters reject gay marriage. In fact, it's only legal in states where state legislators bypassed voters and didn't put it up to a vote by their citizens. Or...do you have different information?

Perhaps you might want to re-think your assertion...that the majority of Americans support gay marriage...in light of the following information to the contrary!

Gay marriage thrown out by all 31 U.S. states where it has been put to vote
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12252 10/Gay-marriage-rejected-31-U-S-states-vote-Maine-gives-legislation-thumbs-down.html

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posted May 13, 2012 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes jwhop, we all know that you think bigotry is defensible and that human rights should be up for popular vote. It's in line with who you are. You're a convervative Southerner. You think people should be allowed to marry their cousins, just not their GAY cousins. In any case, my remarks were based on this: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/05/mixed-numbers-for-same-sex-marriage-support-across-country/. So 52 percent, just over half. In any case, it is still a risky political move in an election year, which further solidifies the genuine sentiment behind the declaration.

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posted May 13, 2012 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Btw Jwhop, I normally prefer to use American sources when citing American polls. Crazy notion, I know .

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